I'm am so sick of carrying my 19" monitor to lan parties, it's so damn heavy and big. Imagine how cool it would be to just carry a tiny headset dispay.
Plus, imagine having 15 guys sitting around a few tables all wearing headset displays, that would just be so cool. It would look like something from out of Star Trek(or pick your favorite sci-fi).
With prototypes already made, and so many companies planning on using this stuff, it looks like we may finally get to see these in action. Hopefully the cost will be as cheap as they imply.
Seriously, people, grow up. Life is not a big huge conspiracy, what the FBI did was reasonable. They had good reason to suspect these guys, they then set them up and caught them.
Do you really think that they could do this any other way? Of course not, the evidence would most likely disappear before they could get their hands on it, just as the parent poster pointed out.
With that said, there is PLENTY of other things to complain about concerning the FBI. Personally, I would like to see the FBI, NSA, and CIA dissolved and create new organizations for the security of this nation, with input from the public and complete disclosure of how things will work. But please, complain about the things that are worth complaining about, in this case, the FBI was trying to do the right thing.
What is with all the conspiracy theories? Jesus people, learn to just STFU now and then. Most of the posts modded up to 4/5 are complete bullshit, wacked out conspiracy theories being told by people who don't even know anyone who was in the war, while people who DO know war veterans and have heard first hand accounts of what when on are being ignored.
WTF? I like conspiracy theories as much as anyone, but gimme a fucking break, listen to the people who actually know what they are talking about.
Motif sucks a fat one. I wouldn't really know, as I've never ever been unfortunate to do any programming with Motif, and have only toyed around with GTK and QT.
As far as ease of use, I didn't find GTK or QT to be too difficult, and I NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER __EVER__ do any GUI programming... ever... Well, except for like 4 or 5 years ago in Java 1.something. They both seemed pretty straight forward to me.
Anyway, what I *DO* know about Motif from experience is that it is the ugliest fucking GUI toolkit I have *EVER* seen. Windows, Mac, GTK/QT blow it away it terms of both look AND feel. Even if you're a hardcore "looks don't matter" geek, the feel is still important, and God Motif is just so awfully disgusting! Then there's the matter of stability...
I have only seen _ONE_ Motif app that is really stable, which would be Nedit BTW(the absolute greatest text editor in the world). Can anyone else think of another stable Motif app?
Why is anyone still using Motif, why is anyone defending it? For the sake of all that is good and pure, throw that wretched thing away! = )
They SHOULD STFU because they are senselessly complaining. That has nothing to do with freedom, it is simply my opinion. Obviously if they want to complain about nothing they can.
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If GPL code is virus-like, what does that mean about M$ code?
No one can force you to use GPL code, so the virus analogy doesn't really stand up anyway. I guess you could say that the GPL is like a non-communicable virus.
Anyway, that's a pretty ridiculous argument from MS anyway, while you CAN use GPL code (with the limitations the GPL provides), you _CAN'T_ get access to Microsoft code at all. Well, you can if you pay out the ass for it I guess, but you can pay a GPL developer to license their code to you under a different license too.
I don't HATE KDE, I just dislike the look and feel somewhat. I was just exaggerating.
I completely agree with you taht the world is a better place for having BOTH desktops. I have used and enjoyed both, as well as Enlightenment.
I actually dislike the way QT feels more than anything else about KDE, I find GTK to be much more pleasant. I'm sure they'll both keep improving until they reach perfection, or close to it ; )
Wow, this is really a shame. I have to say I'm not surprised at all though, their business modem really didn't seem to make sense. I didn't get what their services were supposed to be all about, how can you add services into a file manager that are strong enough to base a business on?
Anyway, I'm noticing a lot of KDE trolling going on here... It may just be me, I'm not sure, but it really seems to me that a lot of KDE users like to cut on Gnome really badly. I don't see the same thing coming from Gnome users, I wonder why this is, I'm not inferring anything, I'm honestly curious.
In any case, since there seem to be so many people trolling for KDE, I figure I'll just become the first Gnome troll, so, here it goes...
I like Gnome because...
1. It's pretty
2. It's pretty
3. It's pretty
4. It works pretty well
5. Corner panels ROCK!
Things I would really like for Gnome
1. An icon box type thing exactly like in Enlightenment.
2. Nautilus, completed... bugs fixed, performance enhanced, theming features complete. Hopefully someone will continue developing it.
Things I absolutely *HATE* about KDE
1. It's ugly
2. It's ugly
3. It's ugly
4. Let me explain ugly, when I say ugly, I mean that it just doesn't feel right... at all. To me, it just looks/feels like it's trying to be an exact ripoff of windows while at the same time adding eye candy. Now, that's not entirely bad, but it just falls way short. The look and feel is just slightly off which is extremely irritating. The eye candy just doesn't work either. Take a look at Konqueror, it has the UGLIEST interface I've seen since I stopped using motif apps. Look at the buttons, they're hideous! And they way they are dithered when they are inactive, it's God awfully hideous looking!
5. I *HATE* panels that stretch across the whole bottom/top/side of the screen. I don't need that many buttons, please, corner panels just save so much screen real estate.
To be fair... things I like about KDE.
1. It works
2. There are some great apps
3. Everything is integrated a little better than in Gnome, especially the WM.
Anyway, back on topic... Nautilus was a great step up for Gnome, I really hope development is continued, it really completes the Gnome desktop.
I hope I don't start a flame fest, that's not my intention...
Besides, "their" database doesn't belong to them, they didn't even make it. WE made it, myself and everyone else who contributed to that POS. Jesus, who the fuck couldn't design a simple cddb type program and then let everyone else do the real work. The work they did isn't worth shit, the real work was done by us.
Grrrrr... stupi.. mothe.. fuc... sons of bit....!!!
Sometimes I think violence is the BEST answer to problems ; ) (disclaimer: I'm joking, please don't take that seriously)
I think a class action suit is in order for tricking thousands of users into freely contributing to what was supposedly a FREE database. Any lawyers care to comment on this?
I understand why you don't like E,but personally, I think it's great. It's a PITA to configure some things because you have to edit config files, but most of it can actually be done with the menus now. I REALLY like the iconbox, I minimize windows constantly, and I find it much easier/quicker to glance and the iconbox and click on the window I want to bring up.
As for sawfish, nothing you said about it was correct. All the behavior of the windows can easily be changed, you can easily set every action just how you want it.
Please go buy a clue from someone who has one before you go ranting about these things. It really only takes 5 minutes to figure out how to configure sawfish and do it, if you can't even do that...
Yes, I've seen this problem too. It's a real pain in the ass to get the settings right. Konq is just so visually disgusting I can't stand to use it. The fonts, the buttons, bleh, I'd rather use Netscape 4.x... err... on second thought, Konq is really pretty decent ; )
I prefer Mozilla though, but I run it on a Tbird 900, so... The speed is definately improving though, I think when it's done it will be great.
My guess is he *DOES* understand the risks, but is going to try it anyway because it's the chance of a lifetime.
But even if that is the case, it's most definately still a trait that evolution would weed out. So, your conclusion is still correct, that he would be a perfect candidate for a darwin award.
But, who knows, maybe he really knows what he's doing and will come out of this alright.
Just think, UCITA give companies the right to remotely disable software, I don't want Microsoft or SUN remotely disabling my grandfather's pacemaker because he forgot to pay for his daily licensing fee!!!!
Linus doesn't have anything against intellectual property. If you paid more attention to him you'd know that. He respects people's work and respects copyright. But he also believes that collaboration and sharing knowledge is the best way to promote progress, but that doesn't mean that he thinks patents and such are never appropriate.
Please get a clue before you go calling someone a hypocrite.
When I said they call us hippies I didn't mean that being a hippy was a bad thing. But when they have made those statements, they meant for them to be insulting.
That's all.
I myself am not a hippy, but I'm closer to that than a corporate whore like all those asses as MS.
Yeah, maybe not personal attacks against Linus, but they sure do make personal attacks against us as a whole, calling us hippies and stuff.
Besides, who are you to be disappointed with Linus? Let him speak his mind, he's entitled to it. MS has done nothing but spread FUD about all the work that he's done, I think that deserves some personal attacks.
That requires death, which makes it irrelevant to the the meaning of the phrase... Unless you're suggesting that large numbers of people will start being put to death for copyright infringement and such.
I thought I was really cool with my 100 gigs of storage at home filled with DivX ; ) movies and MP3s. 1 million gigabytes, that's insane.
Ok, new poll
What do you think is stored at Google?
1. Huge search engine index
2. Pr0n
3. MP3s
4. DivX ; ) Movies
5. DivX ; ) Pr0n
6. Marketing data collected with satellites and video cameras attached to flies... just like MLB
7. Cowboyneal's transporter pattern buffer
note: I own _MOST_ of the mp3's and divx movies I have...
I can't remember what it was called, but the poster below posted a link to something called Worlds Chat. It looks very similar, I'm not sure if it's the same thing though.
All I remember is hanging out at Quark's Bar or something like that ; )
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That's not the point. The point is that MS has multiple platforms with many incompatibilities.
That is all...
I'm am so sick of carrying my 19" monitor to lan parties, it's so damn heavy and big. Imagine how cool it would be to just carry a tiny headset dispay.
Plus, imagine having 15 guys sitting around a few tables all wearing headset displays, that would just be so cool. It would look like something from out of Star Trek(or pick your favorite sci-fi).
With prototypes already made, and so many companies planning on using this stuff, it looks like we may finally get to see these in action. Hopefully the cost will be as cheap as they imply.
Seriously, people, grow up. Life is not a big huge conspiracy, what the FBI did was reasonable. They had good reason to suspect these guys, they then set them up and caught them.
Do you really think that they could do this any other way? Of course not, the evidence would most likely disappear before they could get their hands on it, just as the parent poster pointed out.
With that said, there is PLENTY of other things to complain about concerning the FBI. Personally, I would like to see the FBI, NSA, and CIA dissolved and create new organizations for the security of this nation, with input from the public and complete disclosure of how things will work. But please, complain about the things that are worth complaining about, in this case, the FBI was trying to do the right thing.
What is with all the conspiracy theories? Jesus people, learn to just STFU now and then. Most of the posts modded up to 4/5 are complete bullshit, wacked out conspiracy theories being told by people who don't even know anyone who was in the war, while people who DO know war veterans and have heard first hand accounts of what when on are being ignored.
WTF? I like conspiracy theories as much as anyone, but gimme a fucking break, listen to the people who actually know what they are talking about.
I saw this a few days ago, and I'll say what I said then, "WTF?"
That's absolutely amazing, did he spend every waking minute working on this or what? Isn't creating emulators of proprietary hardware difficult?
The emulation scene is just amazing, I can't believe how quickly they get stuff done these days.
Motif sucks a fat one. I wouldn't really know, as I've never ever been unfortunate to do any programming with Motif, and have only toyed around with GTK and QT.
As far as ease of use, I didn't find GTK or QT to be too difficult, and I NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER __EVER__ do any GUI programming... ever... Well, except for like 4 or 5 years ago in Java 1.something. They both seemed pretty straight forward to me.
Anyway, what I *DO* know about Motif from experience is that it is the ugliest fucking GUI toolkit I have *EVER* seen. Windows, Mac, GTK/QT blow it away it terms of both look AND feel. Even if you're a hardcore "looks don't matter" geek, the feel is still important, and God Motif is just so awfully disgusting! Then there's the matter of stability...
I have only seen _ONE_ Motif app that is really stable, which would be Nedit BTW(the absolute greatest text editor in the world). Can anyone else think of another stable Motif app?
Why is anyone still using Motif, why is anyone defending it? For the sake of all that is good and pure, throw that wretched thing away! = )
Why oh why am I still awake?
They SHOULD STFU because they are senselessly complaining. That has nothing to do with freedom, it is simply my opinion. Obviously if they want to complain about nothing they can.
If GPL code is virus-like, what does that mean about M$ code?
No one can force you to use GPL code, so the virus analogy doesn't really stand up anyway. I guess you could say that the GPL is like a non-communicable virus.
Anyway, that's a pretty ridiculous argument from MS anyway, while you CAN use GPL code (with the limitations the GPL provides), you _CAN'T_ get access to Microsoft code at all. Well, you can if you pay out the ass for it I guess, but you can pay a GPL developer to license their code to you under a different license too.
So, MS argument == NULL
That's my take on it anyway...
I don't HATE KDE, I just dislike the look and feel somewhat. I was just exaggerating.
I completely agree with you taht the world is a better place for having BOTH desktops. I have used and enjoyed both, as well as Enlightenment.
I actually dislike the way QT feels more than anything else about KDE, I find GTK to be much more pleasant. I'm sure they'll both keep improving until they reach perfection, or close to it ; )
Wow, this is really a shame. I have to say I'm not surprised at all though, their business modem really didn't seem to make sense. I didn't get what their services were supposed to be all about, how can you add services into a file manager that are strong enough to base a business on?
Anyway, I'm noticing a lot of KDE trolling going on here... It may just be me, I'm not sure, but it really seems to me that a lot of KDE users like to cut on Gnome really badly. I don't see the same thing coming from Gnome users, I wonder why this is, I'm not inferring anything, I'm honestly curious.
In any case, since there seem to be so many people trolling for KDE, I figure I'll just become the first Gnome troll, so, here it goes...
I like Gnome because...
1. It's pretty
2. It's pretty
3. It's pretty
4. It works pretty well
5. Corner panels ROCK!
Things I would really like for Gnome
1. An icon box type thing exactly like in Enlightenment.
2. Nautilus, completed... bugs fixed, performance enhanced, theming features complete. Hopefully someone will continue developing it.
Things I absolutely *HATE* about KDE
1. It's ugly
2. It's ugly
3. It's ugly
4. Let me explain ugly, when I say ugly, I mean that it just doesn't feel right... at all. To me, it just looks/feels like it's trying to be an exact ripoff of windows while at the same time adding eye candy. Now, that's not entirely bad, but it just falls way short. The look and feel is just slightly off which is extremely irritating. The eye candy just doesn't work either. Take a look at Konqueror, it has the UGLIEST interface I've seen since I stopped using motif apps. Look at the buttons, they're hideous! And they way they are dithered when they are inactive, it's God awfully hideous looking!
5. I *HATE* panels that stretch across the whole bottom/top/side of the screen. I don't need that many buttons, please, corner panels just save so much screen real estate.
To be fair... things I like about KDE.
1. It works
2. There are some great apps
3. Everything is integrated a little better than in Gnome, especially the WM.
Anyway, back on topic... Nautilus was a great step up for Gnome, I really hope development is continued, it really completes the Gnome desktop.
I hope I don't start a flame fest, that's not my intention...
Budget. ST:TOS had a very low budget and they couldn't afford to put ridges on 20 people every time they had an episode with the Klingons.
Besides, "their" database doesn't belong to them, they didn't even make it. WE made it, myself and everyone else who contributed to that POS. Jesus, who the fuck couldn't design a simple cddb type program and then let everyone else do the real work. The work they did isn't worth shit, the real work was done by us.
Grrrrr... stupi.. mothe.. fuc... sons of bit....!!!
Sometimes I think violence is the BEST answer to problems ; ) (disclaimer: I'm joking, please don't take that seriously)
I think a class action suit is in order for tricking thousands of users into freely contributing to what was supposedly a FREE database. Any lawyers care to comment on this?
Didn't you learn anything from watching the X-Men?
I understand why you don't like E,but personally, I think it's great. It's a PITA to configure some things because you have to edit config files, but most of it can actually be done with the menus now. I REALLY like the iconbox, I minimize windows constantly, and I find it much easier/quicker to glance and the iconbox and click on the window I want to bring up.
As for sawfish, nothing you said about it was correct. All the behavior of the windows can easily be changed, you can easily set every action just how you want it.
Please go buy a clue from someone who has one before you go ranting about these things. It really only takes 5 minutes to figure out how to configure sawfish and do it, if you can't even do that...
Yes, I've seen this problem too. It's a real pain in the ass to get the settings right. Konq is just so visually disgusting I can't stand to use it. The fonts, the buttons, bleh, I'd rather use Netscape 4.x... err... on second thought, Konq is really pretty decent ; )
I prefer Mozilla though, but I run it on a Tbird 900, so... The speed is definately improving though, I think when it's done it will be great.
My guess is he *DOES* understand the risks, but is going to try it anyway because it's the chance of a lifetime.
But even if that is the case, it's most definately still a trait that evolution would weed out. So, your conclusion is still correct, that he would be a perfect candidate for a darwin award.
But, who knows, maybe he really knows what he's doing and will come out of this alright.
joke...
you know, as in, not serious, not to be taken literally, etc...
Just think, UCITA give companies the right to remotely disable software, I don't want Microsoft or SUN remotely disabling my grandfather's pacemaker because he forgot to pay for his daily licensing fee!!!!
Linus doesn't have anything against intellectual property. If you paid more attention to him you'd know that. He respects people's work and respects copyright. But he also believes that collaboration and sharing knowledge is the best way to promote progress, but that doesn't mean that he thinks patents and such are never appropriate.
Please get a clue before you go calling someone a hypocrite.
When I said they call us hippies I didn't mean that being a hippy was a bad thing. But when they have made those statements, they meant for them to be insulting.
That's all.
I myself am not a hippy, but I'm closer to that than a corporate whore like all those asses as MS.
Yeah, maybe not personal attacks against Linus, but they sure do make personal attacks against us as a whole, calling us hippies and stuff.
Besides, who are you to be disappointed with Linus? Let him speak his mind, he's entitled to it. MS has done nothing but spread FUD about all the work that he's done, I think that deserves some personal attacks.
That requires death, which makes it irrelevant to the the meaning of the phrase... Unless you're suggesting that large numbers of people will start being put to death for copyright infringement and such.
And I'm sure being in a serious car accident and almost losing your life in the middle of it all probably doesn't help.
Good luck to him in all his future ventures.
I thought I was really cool with my 100 gigs of storage at home filled with DivX ; ) movies and MP3s. 1 million gigabytes, that's insane.
Ok, new poll
What do you think is stored at Google?
1. Huge search engine index
2. Pr0n
3. MP3s
4. DivX ; ) Movies
5. DivX ; ) Pr0n
6. Marketing data collected with satellites and video cameras attached to flies... just like MLB
7. Cowboyneal's transporter pattern buffer
note: I own _MOST_ of the mp3's and divx movies I have...
I can't remember what it was called, but the poster below posted a link to something called Worlds Chat. It looks very similar, I'm not sure if it's the same thing though.
All I remember is hanging out at Quark's Bar or something like that ; )