I don't want a cookie. I want CmdrTaco to stop posting these sort of posts ("....How will they survive?") on the front page.
To address your points
1. "I don't care how money is distributed or how rich or poor theatres are as long as laws stay the same. When folks start lobbying to increase the length of copyright, effectivly stealing from the public domain, I get upset."
You deserve to be upset, Disney (ahem, Eisner) is very bad about that. HOWEVER, that is Disney, not Prarmount, Sony, WB and others. you are sloppy and unfari in throwing in the industry with Disney. But it suits your purposes so you do it. Hey, you have a weak case so do what you need. but i never talked about copyright extensions, and THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STEALING NEW MOVIES AND THE ENSUING LOSS OF REVENUE. jackass.
2.And companies can keep doing what they do, but people are going to complain. Some people are even going to stop watching. Me, I don't even watch TV anymore (threw the damn thing out) because almost all the shows worth watching were off the air. I don't miss it.
Do you want a cookie? I own a TV, but I have no cable satellitle or antenna. I just watch dvd's and videos. I want a cookie. But the point is fine, the biz doesnt care that it lost a customer, it cares that YOU DONT STEAL IT. jackass.
3.Stuidos can try and argue that filesharing hurts their profits and shouldn't be done by anyone.
first, the studios dont make the arguement, the MPAA makes it for them. Technical, but hey, I dont like you. MPAA has argued that filesharing of it's members movies shouldnt be done, because, well, it is illegal! Make copies for your self is fine. But that is not filesharing. They make the arugment that it is fine to load up kazaa or limewire.
Go ahead, you are going to share your homemade MIDI file, your 6th grade spanish class report on Catherine the Great. It is your right. But if you click on the "shares folders" option, and then select the folder where you made your backup of BOFA part III, then you are a thief. jackass
4.And if you've sunk billions into hooking yourself up with theatres around the country and deals with video rental stores, change is threatening.
I dont see how the studios either a), spent billions on the theaters (i made the point that those are seperate companies already), b) or that though they may have signed and negotiated contracts with said cinema companie, you are an absolute fool for saying they spent billions. they havent hooked themselves in in anyway, and certainly have not spent billions. ok, maybe millions (in what sense i have no idea. but shoot, $5million over 5-10 years, ha, that is a month's electricity bill. get your numbers right or stop making stuff up. billions? jackass.
5. You can go into a book store and read the magazines. People still buy them.
Not necessarily. Enjoy today's NY times article on the diffiuclty of magazine publishing. jackass.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/arts/design/06MC DO.html
Studios exercising their rights are one thing. But criticizing Michael Moore for encouraging downloading of his movie is just asinine.
First, post some linnks of where i can these criticisms.. i looked for a bit, but could only find Lions Gate (LGF) criticisms, not any major studio or valentis (not saying they dont exist, but it is for you to prove, not for me to go out of my way and find).
What right do these people have to tell others what they can do with their products. That's where their true hippocracy is outed.
Becasue they bought the movie from Michael moore you jackass. that is what a distributor does. they pay someone a fee to have sole rights to sell the movie. they pay for advertising, they pay for the reels, they pay to fly him around and do interviews. they pay for his deluxe penthouse sutes, his 5 star restaurants (which he has a right to eat at...i dont think it is hypocritical unless he complained about others doing it too...vut you should know..)
no it does't. Studios and studio owning companies have not been allowed to own cinemas since, shoot, what the 30's? 40's? I dunno, but at least since the fifties. Maybe laws changed, but i'd be very surprised. hmm, own the movie, own the place it shows, sounds liek a monopoly to me
So write a letter to Regal Entertainment, Loews, Crown, and others. Complain to them how much tickets costs. But don't blame the cinema companies' stupidity and over reaching on the movie studios.
otherwise, deal with the advertising. that is the price you pay for staying at home and getting to watch the movies on tv. or on dvd. or paying $45 bucks for a pair of shoes. or $10 for a tshirt at the gap. or $2.25 for a gallon of gasoline. all insanely dirt cheap compare to everywhere else in the world (and because the rest of the world is forced to subsidise us because thankfully we have a strong governement who does that for us)
Clever, but I don't have time to get into Deconstructionist B*S*. You depend too literally on grammar and definitions of words (and not you personally, but the whole Deconstructionism movement) and English is an improper forum/language for that. Justified True Belief, of JTB+ does not occur in French or other languages because concepts and words are different.
though I understand you line of arguement, Shakespeare to me did not create anything. I don't know what book he created, I certainly don't see it, so I can say I wrote a story called Titus andronicus, using every single line some others may attribute to some facelss guy called Shakespeare, and legitamtely say it is mine and that i did not steal it.
in anyway. i stole no book. no storyline. no concept, no idea, nothing. everybody had the entire story in their heds. in fact, we are all born with the screeenplay of the usual suspects in our heads.
liberterian party dies when JSMill's party and utilitarianism was taken over by tax hating non philosphers.
So what if they did cross the billion dollar mark. That doesn't mean they are rolling in profits.
Either a) the majority of trash talkers here are not really computer nerds working in IT but the stupid losers in high school who could only make friends with those AV club nerds and thus cannot understand simple mathematics or b) computer nerds who are losers and too willing to want to bash something (the MPAA) for stopping them from stealing movies or because they wanted to be the cool creative artist in high school but their social retardness prevented that and so now they ar still bitter and complaining.
So what if they set a record you dolts. I have to pay $12 a movie now on Friday nights. And places here charge up to $15. Movies used to cost $4 and when they raised it to $5 they were setting records. That doesnt mean they are rolling in profits. Were you rejected from Devry and U of Phoenix?
If people here actually practiced what they preached (be open to learning knew stuff) they would read less tech journals and more other industry journals (I do not work in tech, I work manufacturing, but I read about other absoultely non-manufacturing related industries to know more, hence my reading/.)
Read entertainment business journals (LA Business Journal for instance tough not only entertainment) journals and you would learn of the pay structures for movies. Studios do not keep everything. They have to split revenues (revenues not profits) with the cinema companies so that knocks 30% off first few weeks, steadily increasing (I think cinemas keep 90% of revenues after 5 weeks). Then you have to cut you partners in (dreamworks usually releases with paramount, columbia and revloution, etc etc). Then still parting out revenues, the studios need to pay out the production companies (Cruise/Wagner Productions, A Band Apart, etc etc) then they need to give out points to whatever director/producer/actor got them (Spielberg gets an extra~15 points (percentage points btw), clooney and Pitt each get 5-8 % on the Ocean's movie. Besides their salaries.
So yes, they have greater revenues. so what? the costs have gone up. Why arent all you *GENiUSES* buying AOL stock, Sony stock, Viacom stock? Because deep down you know the movies are barely profitable except for a few players!!!
And if those players make money, so what? do you work for free? why should they? it is not your right to buy their product for nothing. if they want to release a dvd of LOTR now and you buy it, whats wrong with that?? and if 6 months later they sell a different version with more goodies, why do you all complain? Cant you rent it? Couldnt you have the first time?
Arent you as pathetic as the gutless f*ck with no self control who is suing McDonalds because the food he ate there day after day (becasue he was too lazy to cook for himself and too unwilling to eat food with didn't tast as good as McDonald's)? fucking whiners all of you.
mod me down for by poor manners, poo typing and syntax skills, and poor use of colorful metaphors, but not because you disapprove of what i say.
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You deserve to be upset, Disney (ahem, Eisner) is very bad about that. HOWEVER, that is Disney, not Prarmount, Sony, WB and others. you are sloppy and unfari in throwing in the industry with Disney. But it suits your purposes so you do it. Hey, you have a weak case so do what you need. but i never talked about copyright extensions, and THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STEALING NEW MOVIES AND THE ENSUING LOSS OF REVENUE. jackass.
2.And companies can keep doing what they do, but people are going to complain. Some people are even going to stop watching. Me, I don't even watch TV anymore (threw the damn thing out) because almost all the shows worth watching were off the air. I don't miss it.
Do you want a cookie? I own a TV, but I have no cable satellitle or antenna. I just watch dvd's and videos. I want a cookie. But the point is fine, the biz doesnt care that it lost a customer, it cares that YOU DONT STEAL IT. jackass.
3.Stuidos can try and argue that filesharing hurts their profits and shouldn't be done by anyone.
first, the studios dont make the arguement, the MPAA makes it for them. Technical, but hey, I dont like you. MPAA has argued that filesharing of it's members movies shouldnt be done, because, well, it is illegal! Make copies for your self is fine. But that is not filesharing. They make the arugment that it is fine to load up kazaa or limewire.
Go ahead, you are going to share your homemade MIDI file, your 6th grade spanish class report on Catherine the Great. It is your right. But if you click on the "shares folders" option, and then select the folder where you made your backup of BOFA part III, then you are a thief. jackass
4.And if you've sunk billions into hooking yourself up with theatres around the country and deals with video rental stores, change is threatening.
I dont see how the studios either a), spent billions on the theaters (i made the point that those are seperate companies already), b) or that though they may have signed and negotiated contracts with said cinema companie, you are an absolute fool for saying they spent billions. they havent hooked themselves in in anyway, and certainly have not spent billions. ok, maybe millions (in what sense i have no idea. but shoot, $5million over 5-10 years, ha, that is a month's electricity bill. get your numbers right or stop making stuff up. billions? jackass.
5. You can go into a book store and read the magazines. People still buy them.
Not necessarily. Enjoy today's NY times article on the diffiuclty of magazine publishing. jackass. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/arts/design/06MC DO.html
Studios exercising their rights are one thing. But criticizing Michael Moore for encouraging downloading of his movie is just asinine.
First, post some linnks of where i can these criticisms.. i looked for a bit, but could only find Lions Gate (LGF) criticisms, not any major studio or valentis (not saying they dont exist, but it is for you to prove, not for me to go out of my way and find). What right do these people have to tell others what they can do with their products. That's where their true hippocracy is outed.
Becasue they bought the movie from Michael moore you jackass. that is what a distributor does. they pay someone a fee to have sole rights to sell the movie. they pay for advertising, they pay for the reels, they pay to fly him around and do interviews. they pay for his deluxe penthouse sutes, his 5 star restaurants (which he has a right to eat at...i dont think it is hypocritical unless he complained about others doing it too...vut you should know..)
So write a letter to Regal Entertainment, Loews, Crown, and others. Complain to them how much tickets costs. But don't blame the cinema companies' stupidity and over reaching on the movie studios.
otherwise, deal with the advertising. that is the price you pay for staying at home and getting to watch the movies on tv. or on dvd. or paying $45 bucks for a pair of shoes. or $10 for a tshirt at the gap. or $2.25 for a gallon of gasoline. all insanely dirt cheap compare to everywhere else in the world (and because the rest of the world is forced to subsidise us because thankfully we have a strong governement who does that for us)
though I understand you line of arguement, Shakespeare to me did not create anything. I don't know what book he created, I certainly don't see it, so I can say I wrote a story called Titus andronicus, using every single line some others may attribute to some facelss guy called Shakespeare, and legitamtely say it is mine and that i did not steal it.
in anyway. i stole no book. no storyline. no concept, no idea, nothing. everybody had the entire story in their heds. in fact, we are all born with the screeenplay of the usual suspects in our heads.
liberterian party dies when JSMill's party and utilitarianism was taken over by tax hating non philosphers.
Either a) the majority of trash talkers here are not really computer nerds working in IT but the stupid losers in high school who could only make friends with those AV club nerds and thus cannot understand simple mathematics or b) computer nerds who are losers and too willing to want to bash something (the MPAA) for stopping them from stealing movies or because they wanted to be the cool creative artist in high school but their social retardness prevented that and so now they ar still bitter and complaining.
So what if they set a record you dolts. I have to pay $12 a movie now on Friday nights. And places here charge up to $15. Movies used to cost $4 and when they raised it to $5 they were setting records. That doesnt mean they are rolling in profits. Were you rejected from Devry and U of Phoenix?
If people here actually practiced what they preached (be open to learning knew stuff) they would read less tech journals and more other industry journals (I do not work in tech, I work manufacturing, but I read about other absoultely non-manufacturing related industries to know more, hence my reading /.)
Read entertainment business journals (LA Business Journal for instance tough not only entertainment) journals and you would learn of the pay structures for movies. Studios do not keep everything. They have to split revenues (revenues not profits) with the cinema companies so that knocks 30% off first few weeks, steadily increasing (I think cinemas keep 90% of revenues after 5 weeks). Then you have to cut you partners in (dreamworks usually releases with paramount, columbia and revloution, etc etc). Then still parting out revenues, the studios need to pay out the production companies (Cruise/Wagner Productions, A Band Apart, etc etc) then they need to give out points to whatever director/producer/actor got them (Spielberg gets an extra~15 points (percentage points btw), clooney and Pitt each get 5-8 % on the Ocean's movie. Besides their salaries.
So yes, they have greater revenues. so what? the costs have gone up. Why arent all you *GENiUSES* buying AOL stock, Sony stock, Viacom stock? Because deep down you know the movies are barely profitable except for a few players!!!
And if those players make money, so what? do you work for free? why should they? it is not your right to buy their product for nothing. if they want to release a dvd of LOTR now and you buy it, whats wrong with that?? and if 6 months later they sell a different version with more goodies, why do you all complain? Cant you rent it? Couldnt you have the first time?
Arent you as pathetic as the gutless f*ck with no self control who is suing McDonalds because the food he ate there day after day (becasue he was too lazy to cook for himself and too unwilling to eat food with didn't tast as good as McDonald's)? fucking whiners all of you.
mod me down for by poor manners, poo typing and syntax skills, and poor use of colorful metaphors, but not because you disapprove of what i say.