You notice that no one is backing you up either? That is because no one cares about this exchange. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think that no one else pointing out your incorrect statements makes your correct. Of course the fact that you can neither remember, nor read your own posts, it is already clear.
I'm not sure if your are being sarcastic or not. Putting the product name on the package is what 99.99% of all products sold to consumers do. Complaining about it is stupid. Thinking that it would spoil a surprise is stupid. It may let thieves know exactly what they are stealing, but then so does every other product package, so complaining about it is stupid.
Please tell me that my sarcasm meter is just out of whack, and you are not seriously defending the writer in his complain that it is a problem that this product is packaged just like very other product on the market.
That is a mighty strange obsession that someone has. I don't mean the people watching My Littl Pony. I mean the people that would go out of their way to have it pulled down if in fact Hasbro has given the OK on it.
Yes, I am happy, but that has nothing to do with this conversation.
The fact is that houses with more computers than cars are common. Very possibly in the majority. You are just counting the ones in cars, and not the ones in the house. Your example of remote controls are a good one. Just do a Google search on "JP1 Remotes". You are going to be surprised that cheap universal remotes are generally programmable.
Amazing how even with a quote stating exactly what you claim wasn't said, you still claim otherwise. As for the splitting of hairs... no. You were claiming that Android systems couldn't be used because the equipment had to be identical. You were very clear that you were saying functionally equivalent wasn't good enough. You even followed up to make sure the it was clear that functionally equivalent wasn't good enough, and capitalized the word EXACT to do it.
The law basically boils down to the OEM must provide EXACT replacement parts for at least 10 years.
Hint: Your old comments don't disappear when you make a new one.
I'll let you pick what you will define as a computer, but whatever choice you make, it applies both to the car and the house. Whichever you choose, my house, and many other's houses will have more computers in the house than in their car.
So, we can't have developers doing exactly what they are doing now and what it is physically impossible to stop them from doing? $3 of velcro will convert your android tablet into an in-car Android entertainment system. Having the unit permanently mounted isn't going to change it's safety. If you want to avoid having angry birds play, then just get Google (or have the device manufacturer because they can) enhance Androids "Car Mode" to filter out the launching of applications that do not have a "use while driving" flag. I highly doubt that the writers of Angry Birds is going to go out of their way to make sure someone can play the game while driving.
Perhaps what you are confused about is that the device gets certified for use on either kind of network. Changing the software is clearly legal, as it is done on both kinds of networks all of the time. Nobody is talking about modifying the hardware. In both cases, we are discussing taking a Linux computer that has a modem, and replacing the OS.
The OP evilviper that the lights on your father's entertainment system cannot go out in less than ten years. This thread is about entertainment systems, and evilviper is claiming they can't use Android because car Entertainment systems have to work exactly the same after 10 years as the day you bought them.
they have to meet the regulatory requirements of all other new car parts... being fully functional for 10 years, and working on the last day of the 10th year exactly like they did on day 1.
And, no they don't have to be exactly the same after 10 years. They have to be functionally the same. I have had several cars that the factory replacement parts were not exact replacements. Just look at any part recall. They don't replace the faulty part with another faulty part.
Of course the headliner sagging is a failure. The OP claimed that ALL parts of a car must function the same 10 years in as the do the day the car is sold. That is absurd. I am well aware that most cars can easily run for 10 years without major malfunctions. Very few if any make it 10 years without minor malfunctions.
Since we don't know the math to make FTL possible, it seems just as likely that we wouldn't know the math that shows causality violations don't happen.
I know that when I go to the grocery store, I expect the doors of the building to work like the ones from Star Trek. I don't expect my communicator to work like the ones from Start Trek because my communicator is WAY beyond what Star Trek offered. Star Trek communicators are totally last century. We have cured many cancers. We can look inside of the human body in ways and in ways that even Star Trek didn't imagine. Heck, you can get 3D videos of babies while they are still in the womb. I can take a small swab from mine and my son's cheek, and know if he is mine or not. TVs now have the form factor of the view screen from Star Trek. My clocks set themselves. I use lasers to identify the products I buy in stores. LASERS I TELL YOU!!!!
No, tons of stuff from Sci-Fi has become a reality in our world. No, we don't have flying cars. No, we don't have FTL. And no we haven't detected life on other planets. Just because 100% of Sci-Fi hasn't happened, doesn't mean that none of it has happened.
Citation please. I don't think I have seen a single car that didn't have SOME part fail within the first 10 years. The entertainment system failing in in some way in less time than that is down right common.
No, it isn't. There is no excuse for this system to have write access to anything that is a safety or basic car functionality feature. The ability of the system to create any unsafe situation beyond distraction (which is going to be there whether this system is involved or not) would indicate that the system was designed incorrectly from the start. Using safety as an excuse to force a walled garden would be nothing more than a con.
Blaming people driving off cliffs and into lakes on GPS devices is a little like blaming car accidents on the consumption of bread the prior day. Yes there is a correlation, but that doesn't make it the cause. Barring mechanical failure, or a road hazard, anyone that would drive into a lake or off cliffs is already driving their car in a manner that is completely unsafe, and an accident is inevitable anyway. Blaming the GPS for those kinds of accidents is like driving massively stoned and then blaming the the billboard for you smashing into the car in front of you because "The sign was soooo trippy...."
I agree with you in principal, and your comment would apply to the first emo and metro men. Today, there is nothing taboo about emo or metro. Just like having tattoos is no longer taboo.
In support of your comment... Clearly there are many people are confused about what a 'Real Man' is. It is actually really simple.
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You notice that no one is backing you up either? That is because no one cares about this exchange. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think that no one else pointing out your incorrect statements makes your correct. Of course the fact that you can neither remember, nor read your own posts, it is already clear.
I'm not sure if your are being sarcastic or not. Putting the product name on the package is what 99.99% of all products sold to consumers do. Complaining about it is stupid. Thinking that it would spoil a surprise is stupid. It may let thieves know exactly what they are stealing, but then so does every other product package, so complaining about it is stupid.
Please tell me that my sarcasm meter is just out of whack, and you are not seriously defending the writer in his complain that it is a problem that this product is packaged just like very other product on the market.
I dismissed the writer when they claimed that it coming in a box that identified it as a Kindle fire was a flaw.
I can add:
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WinUAE
M.A.M.E.
That is a mighty strange obsession that someone has. I don't mean the people watching My Littl Pony. I mean the people that would go out of their way to have it pulled down if in fact Hasbro has given the OK on it.
Saying that 'the "government" is made up of "the people" ' is a little like going to a rape trial and saying "it takes two to tango."
Point still stands. evilvipers claim that every single part must function the same after 10 years as the day the car is bought is simply incorrect.
Yes, I am happy, but that has nothing to do with this conversation.
The fact is that houses with more computers than cars are common. Very possibly in the majority. You are just counting the ones in cars, and not the ones in the house. Your example of remote controls are a good one. Just do a Google search on "JP1 Remotes". You are going to be surprised that cheap universal remotes are generally programmable.
The law basically boils down to the OEM must provide EXACT replacement parts for at least 10 years.
Hint: Your old comments don't disappear when you make a new one.
I'll let you pick what you will define as a computer, but whatever choice you make, it applies both to the car and the house. Whichever you choose, my house, and many other's houses will have more computers in the house than in their car.
So, we can't have developers doing exactly what they are doing now and what it is physically impossible to stop them from doing? $3 of velcro will convert your android tablet into an in-car Android entertainment system. Having the unit permanently mounted isn't going to change it's safety. If you want to avoid having angry birds play, then just get Google (or have the device manufacturer because they can) enhance Androids "Car Mode" to filter out the launching of applications that do not have a "use while driving" flag. I highly doubt that the writers of Angry Birds is going to go out of their way to make sure someone can play the game while driving.
Perhaps what you are confused about is that the device gets certified for use on either kind of network. Changing the software is clearly legal, as it is done on both kinds of networks all of the time. Nobody is talking about modifying the hardware. In both cases, we are discussing taking a Linux computer that has a modem, and replacing the OS.
evilviper says yes. I say that if that tiny bulb burns out, the manufacturer can replace the bulb with a functionally equivalent light bulb.
The OP evilviper that the lights on your father's entertainment system cannot go out in less than ten years. This thread is about entertainment systems, and evilviper is claiming they can't use Android because car Entertainment systems have to work exactly the same after 10 years as the day you bought them.
they have to meet the regulatory requirements of all other new car parts... being fully functional for 10 years, and working on the last day of the 10th year exactly like they did on day 1.
And, no they don't have to be exactly the same after 10 years. They have to be functionally the same. I have had several cars that the factory replacement parts were not exact replacements. Just look at any part recall. They don't replace the faulty part with another faulty part.
Of course the headliner sagging is a failure. The OP claimed that ALL parts of a car must function the same 10 years in as the do the day the car is sold. That is absurd. I am well aware that most cars can easily run for 10 years without major malfunctions. Very few if any make it 10 years without minor malfunctions.
My house? Not a chance. I doubt more than most houses. People just like to redefine 'computer' once it becomes common enough and unobtrusive enough.
Since we don't know the math to make FTL possible, it seems just as likely that we wouldn't know the math that shows causality violations don't happen.
I know that when I go to the grocery store, I expect the doors of the building to work like the ones from Star Trek. I don't expect my communicator to work like the ones from Start Trek because my communicator is WAY beyond what Star Trek offered. Star Trek communicators are totally last century. We have cured many cancers. We can look inside of the human body in ways and in ways that even Star Trek didn't imagine. Heck, you can get 3D videos of babies while they are still in the womb. I can take a small swab from mine and my son's cheek, and know if he is mine or not. TVs now have the form factor of the view screen from Star Trek. My clocks set themselves. I use lasers to identify the products I buy in stores. LASERS I TELL YOU!!!!
No, tons of stuff from Sci-Fi has become a reality in our world. No, we don't have flying cars. No, we don't have FTL. And no we haven't detected life on other planets. Just because 100% of Sci-Fi hasn't happened, doesn't mean that none of it has happened.
Citation please. I don't think I have seen a single car that didn't have SOME part fail within the first 10 years. The entertainment system failing in in some way in less time than that is down right common.
Too late. Your car already has a computer.
No, it isn't. There is no excuse for this system to have write access to anything that is a safety or basic car functionality feature. The ability of the system to create any unsafe situation beyond distraction (which is going to be there whether this system is involved or not) would indicate that the system was designed incorrectly from the start. Using safety as an excuse to force a walled garden would be nothing more than a con.
Blaming people driving off cliffs and into lakes on GPS devices is a little like blaming car accidents on the consumption of bread the prior day. Yes there is a correlation, but that doesn't make it the cause. Barring mechanical failure, or a road hazard, anyone that would drive into a lake or off cliffs is already driving their car in a manner that is completely unsafe, and an accident is inevitable anyway. Blaming the GPS for those kinds of accidents is like driving massively stoned and then blaming the the billboard for you smashing into the car in front of you because "The sign was soooo trippy...."
You don't seem to know what the word 'racism' means.
I agree with you in principal, and your comment would apply to the first emo and metro men. Today, there is nothing taboo about emo or metro. Just like having tattoos is no longer taboo.
In support of your comment... Clearly there are many people are confused about what a 'Real Man' is. It is actually really simple.
Real Men have penises.