The data shows that women are nearly 2/3rds of all college graduates and overwhelmingly dominate a majority of STEM fields except for one or two where they're near 50/50 and CS, which accounts for 10% or less of all conferred degrees.
And that is exactly the problem. Men are constantly told they're privileged and to stop whining and suck it up. Women are constantly told they're oppressed and everything is an earthshattering act of victimization.
Fearmongering and disempowerment rhetoric are what keep women out of CS... which is only 10% of conferred degrees, while women as a whole earn a little under 2/3rds of all degrees including a majority of STEM fields.
That's because the article is full of shit. Leigh Alexander is an avowed racist that's repeatedly talked about how much she despises "hood rats" and "hood men", how she means even worse slurs than "hood" or "ghetto", and how she wants to smash glass bottles on black mens' faces for looking at her. In case you're not from the south a black man being attacked for "eyeballing" a woman is one of the oldest and longest running forms of racial violence. Remember Emmett Till?
Leigh's about as feminist as a snake oil salesman. She just uses the title because she knows anything she does will be, as intersectional feminist Philip Wythe puts it, "sanitized": http://theflounce.com/harassme...
You: "Oh I know exactly the event you're talking about but I'm going to try poisoning the well and conflating two different times the same hate crime was committed" Me: "So not only do you know exactly what I'm talking about, you also just brought up a second where domestic violence victims were silenced" You: "You can't support your claims, you're deflecting you're deflecting!"
That's two seperate events, and the one you're talking about was where domestic violence victims were trying to speak about being turned away from shelters or threatened with arrest. You just shot yourself in the foot bringing that up.
Jack Thompson stuck around for years despite the exact same treatment. Everyone needs to stop looking at this from the angle of treating women like weak hapless victims and start teaching women to ignore trolls like everyone else.
First off he's not a raging asshole who got dumped, he is a domestic abuse victim that dumped his abuser. And that's according to the transgender feminist so Social Justicey they wanted to put trigger warnings in the Great Gatsby. Second if you want to talk about armies of sauron you should look at the racist, sexist, transphobic criminals you're siding with. The people so violent and sociopathic that women brave enough to build girls schools in pakistan are afraid of revenge attacks for being a "gender traitor".
Maybe you should try listening to intersectional feminists instead of cracked.
Yeah if you want to make that argument trying to do so by attacking intel for dropping ads at a website whose EIC is an avowed racist that doxxes people and so on is hardly the right way to do it. You're not helping your side of the argument here.
Over a million tweets averaging between 30-50 thousand a day is hardly a "few", nor are people who raise $70,000 for feminists to fund female game developers "obnoxious assholes".
It's simple. How do you bully nerds and geeks and gamers if you're still busy pretending "geek is in"? You find an excuse everyone will approve of and nobody will dare question. http://theflounce.com/harassme...
Your theory falls flat when it turns out men get the same shit women do and the difference is in how everyone ELSE reacts. Men are expected to deal with it or ignore it, women get a crusade against the troll because "ZOMG MISOGYNY!"
Nobody is trying to scare women away. Men get the Same Shit, the only difference is men are taught to ignore it or deal with it. Women are taught to damsel themselves and be helpless victims. Nobody cares when men get trolled or doxxed or swatted, when women get so much as trolled it's the end of the world.
This isn't a study, it's unscientific and draws a bullseye around the argument the author WANTED to win. Like HedgeMage wrote the problem is the other way around from what that author tries to shoehorn. Women aren't raised to be nerds, not the other way around. They're raised in a culture that demeans and attacks nerds and tech and taught to be hypoagent and rely on damseling.
The solution is to get feminists to stop opposing equal custody and start supporting paternity leave as well as maternity leave. In countries that have that there's no meaningful "penalty" for pregnancy or childrearing.
Women aren't the first target of choice, they're just the first target everyone ELSE will give a shit about. Troll a hundred men and nobody will give a fuck, they'll be expected to just ignore you or deal with it. Troll one woman and people will scream "misogyny" as she damsels.
Women aren't attacked for being women, their attacks just aren't IGNORED like mens' are. When a man is trolled he's told to deal with it. When a woman is trolled they damsel and people like you raise the hue and cry of misogyny and discrimination.
Jack Thompson got the same threats and many men have been doxxed. Moving and running away for 7 years are purely things SHE CHOSE to do, not something she was forced to do. Men aren't given the luxury of doing things like that and having it considered reasonable behavior.
The worst slurs against men right now all attack them for either being male or being an unattractive male. If you want your family to understand gender equality you're going in the wrong direction.
Did anyone say genetic? No, you brought up genetics as an attempt to straw man Archangel Michael. Just another completely dishonest tactic to make it utterly impossible to ever stray from your dogma. Do you get that it's stuff like this that actually hurts women?
You keep insisting you care about equality and then you do things like cite David Futrelle, a toxic rape apologist and pathological liar. Do you know why people said there was no police report? BECAUSE THE POLICE TOLD THEM THERE WAS NO POLICE REPORT. It wasn't until LATER that the police changed their story and mentioned that they had sent her to the feds.
Reporting what the police explicitly tell you after direct investigation is the exact OPPOSITE of "without even a hint of investigating it".
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Yes, and one of the foremost women in Linux wrote an article about it once: http://www.linuxjournal.com/co...
The data shows that women are nearly 2/3rds of all college graduates and overwhelmingly dominate a majority of STEM fields except for one or two where they're near 50/50 and CS, which accounts for 10% or less of all conferred degrees.
And that is exactly the problem. Men are constantly told they're privileged and to stop whining and suck it up. Women are constantly told they're oppressed and everything is an earthshattering act of victimization.
Fearmongering and disempowerment rhetoric are what keep women out of CS... which is only 10% of conferred degrees, while women as a whole earn a little under 2/3rds of all degrees including a majority of STEM fields.
That's because the article is full of shit. Leigh Alexander is an avowed racist that's repeatedly talked about how much she despises "hood rats" and "hood men", how she means even worse slurs than "hood" or "ghetto", and how she wants to smash glass bottles on black mens' faces for looking at her. In case you're not from the south a black man being attacked for "eyeballing" a woman is one of the oldest and longest running forms of racial violence. Remember Emmett Till?
Leigh's about as feminist as a snake oil salesman. She just uses the title because she knows anything she does will be, as intersectional feminist Philip Wythe puts it, "sanitized": http://theflounce.com/harassme...
You: "Oh I know exactly the event you're talking about but I'm going to try poisoning the well and conflating two different times the same hate crime was committed"
Me: "So not only do you know exactly what I'm talking about, you also just brought up a second where domestic violence victims were silenced"
You: "You can't support your claims, you're deflecting you're deflecting!"
That's two seperate events, and the one you're talking about was where domestic violence victims were trying to speak about being turned away from shelters or threatened with arrest. You just shot yourself in the foot bringing that up.
Jack Thompson stuck around for years despite the exact same treatment. Everyone needs to stop looking at this from the angle of treating women like weak hapless victims and start teaching women to ignore trolls like everyone else.
First off he's not a raging asshole who got dumped, he is a domestic abuse victim that dumped his abuser. And that's according to the transgender feminist so Social Justicey they wanted to put trigger warnings in the Great Gatsby. Second if you want to talk about armies of sauron you should look at the racist, sexist, transphobic criminals you're siding with. The people so violent and sociopathic that women brave enough to build girls schools in pakistan are afraid of revenge attacks for being a "gender traitor".
Maybe you should try listening to intersectional feminists instead of cracked.
You should read this article by a transgender feminist if you believe that. And seriously? Citing cracked?
This is the sort of thing you're defending here:
https://twitter.com/GGfeminist...
https://twitter.com/milky_cand...
http://i.imgur.com/892hZ1A.png
https://twitter.com/FabioFacch...
https://twitter.com/CodeusaSof...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
http://imgur.com/BNlLKcn
https://twitter.com/JakALope04...
https://twitter.com/tastenotou...
https://twitter.com/JaredBrick...
https://twitter.com/lizzyf620/...
https://twitter.com/tratowzolo...
https://forum.encyclopediadram...
http://i.imgur.com/u8835lH.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz...
Yeah if you want to make that argument trying to do so by attacking intel for dropping ads at a website whose EIC is an avowed racist that doxxes people and so on is hardly the right way to do it. You're not helping your side of the argument here.
Good thing he called him a "fucking sociopath loser" and not a hero then huh?
Over a million tweets averaging between 30-50 thousand a day is hardly a "few", nor are people who raise $70,000 for feminists to fund female game developers "obnoxious assholes".
It's simple. How do you bully nerds and geeks and gamers if you're still busy pretending "geek is in"? You find an excuse everyone will approve of and nobody will dare question. http://theflounce.com/harassme...
Your theory falls flat when it turns out men get the same shit women do and the difference is in how everyone ELSE reacts. Men are expected to deal with it or ignore it, women get a crusade against the troll because "ZOMG MISOGYNY!"
Nobody is trying to scare women away. Men get the Same Shit, the only difference is men are taught to ignore it or deal with it. Women are taught to damsel themselves and be helpless victims. Nobody cares when men get trolled or doxxed or swatted, when women get so much as trolled it's the end of the world.
This isn't a study, it's unscientific and draws a bullseye around the argument the author WANTED to win. Like HedgeMage wrote the problem is the other way around from what that author tries to shoehorn. Women aren't raised to be nerds, not the other way around. They're raised in a culture that demeans and attacks nerds and tech and taught to be hypoagent and rely on damseling.
The solution is to get feminists to stop opposing equal custody and start supporting paternity leave as well as maternity leave. In countries that have that there's no meaningful "penalty" for pregnancy or childrearing.
Yes, exactly. That IS how it works and that's how it SHOULD work unless you want to be burned at the stake for being a witch without any evidence.
We already have one. Women aren't harassed more, people just CARE MORE when women are harassed.
Women aren't the first target of choice, they're just the first target everyone ELSE will give a shit about. Troll a hundred men and nobody will give a fuck, they'll be expected to just ignore you or deal with it. Troll one woman and people will scream "misogyny" as she damsels.
Women aren't attacked for being women, their attacks just aren't IGNORED like mens' are. When a man is trolled he's told to deal with it. When a woman is trolled they damsel and people like you raise the hue and cry of misogyny and discrimination.
Jack Thompson got the same threats and many men have been doxxed. Moving and running away for 7 years are purely things SHE CHOSE to do, not something she was forced to do. Men aren't given the luxury of doing things like that and having it considered reasonable behavior.
The worst slurs against men right now all attack them for either being male or being an unattractive male. If you want your family to understand gender equality you're going in the wrong direction.
Did anyone say genetic? No, you brought up genetics as an attempt to straw man Archangel Michael. Just another completely dishonest tactic to make it utterly impossible to ever stray from your dogma. Do you get that it's stuff like this that actually hurts women?
Do you know what actual women in the industry say? They say the fearmongering from people like you is what drives women away. Hell one of the most respected women in linux called you on this too.
You keep insisting you care about equality and then you do things like cite David Futrelle, a toxic rape apologist and pathological liar. Do you know why people said there was no police report? BECAUSE THE POLICE TOLD THEM THERE WAS NO POLICE REPORT. It wasn't until LATER that the police changed their story and mentioned that they had sent her to the feds.
Reporting what the police explicitly tell you after direct investigation is the exact OPPOSITE of "without even a hint of investigating it".