So you admit to making up a cockamamy excuse to refuse to look at any facts that contradict your prejudices based on an arbitrary "rule" you just pulled out of your ass, even though my source DID actually prove exactly what I was saying... particularly in conjunction with the even more thorough second analysis in the second source.
Throughout the day, Tuesday, Oct. 14, USU police and administrators worked with state and federal law enforcement agencies to assess the threat to our USU community and Ms. Sarkeesian. Together, we determined that there was no credible threat to students, staff or the speaker, and that this letter was intended to frighten the university into cancelling the event.
So what you're saying is you're a racist misogynist who doesn't believe women and minorities can have a different opinion than you without being tricked or stupid? Also I didn't say a majority were women, I said they were disproportionately women as opposed to the almost universally rich white male demographics they're opposing.
By the way do you have any idea how you look saying it's photoshop when people are holding handwritten signs saying "#gamergate #notyourshield"? You should know that you're echoing a campaign of raciallytargetedharassment against blacks and other minorities supporting gamergate.
And yknow for someone who cares so much about people "spouting hate" you sure do seem to have a double standard considering you're supporting the side that started screaming racial slurs like "house ni**" at women and minorities, got a black man fired for daring to speak out against white journalists, and have escalated well beyond death threats in phonecalls, emails, and text messages into the realm of mailing people syringes, knives, and dead animals.
Translation: You either didn't look at anything else or you did and realised you needed to try and find SOME way to disingenuously discredit everything even if it took a double standard to do it.
Actually there isn't evidence for the "gamergate is harassment" narrative. There IS evidence of the GNAA and other outside trolls going to the lengths of paying up to $20 for people to tweet while pretending to be part of gamergate, there IS evidence of the gamergate harassment patrol going to the lengths of tracking down the person behind much of Anita's harassment and even filing reports on him with the FBI, there ARE multiplestatistical analyses empirically proving gamergate is NOT about harassment...
But there is absolutely no evidence for the conspiracy theory that tens of thousands of men, women, LGBT, and minoritygamers from all over the world have banded together dedicated to the cause of driving women out of gaming by raising over $100,000 for charity... including $70,000 for feminists to get women INTO game development.
There is however a fuckton of evidence that a toxic clique of people with incestuous financial and personal ties are pushing a narrative defending themselves while rallying around someone multiplefeminists have pointed out is blatantly a gaslighting domestic abuser.
Just like there's a fuckton of evidence for their vicous abusive behavior up to and including, like I said, a whole ton of doxings:
Because it's completely impossible to find out about serious criminal attacks like people getting sent dead animals without following each and every single person individually. Gotcha. If only there were websites where people talked about things that happened, all in one place.
Or even a website that lets you look for things elsewhere on the internet...
Click my name, I've made a few pretty detailed responses with links both to external websites tracking this and a bunch I copy/paste blasted one particular asshole.
By the way while I love how positively Mcarthyist your "He's one of THEM! COMMUNIST!" response is I forgot to point out that by your own standards you can't trust pretty much anyone condemning gamergate because they're all members of GJP and often have close personal ties or even financial ties to each other through patreon.
Because it's completely impossible to find out about serious criminal attacks like people getting sent dead animals without following each and every single person individually. Gotcha. If only there were websites where people talked about things that happened, all in one place.
Or even a website that lets you look for things elsewhere on the internet...
It's certainly what they like to claim, yet they're mainly concerned with the massive corruption surrounding a little indie game that's free and not making anyone any money, while they're ignoring the very large scale corruption surrounding major publishers demanding positive reviews in exchange for money and review copies (Shadows of Mordor anyone?). I have addressed this with GamerGaters before, and they defended it, stating that Shadows of Mordor is objectively good, while Depression Quest is objectively bad. And that apparently makes one type of corruption okay, and the other type a really serious problem.
First off the Shadows of Mordor story was uncovered by gamergate. That's how woefully uninformed or just plain wrong you are about this, you're literally trying to condemn gamergate for not caring about the story that gamergate uncovered and reported on. Second your entire demand here boils down to "why isn't gamergate doing what journalists are supposed to be doing for them!". That's a self answering question.
And yet it's the women that keep getting attacked. Who even knows the names of the men involved? GamerGaters keep harping on about Zoe Quinn, despite her being supposedly irrelevant to what their cause is really supposed to be about.
There have been multiple statisticalanalyses plainly proving that the "attack" and "harassment" narratives are provably false. You can literally cut out every single mention of Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Feminist Frequency, and hell even Feminism itself and the metrics barely change.
And yet GamerGate started with attacks on women, and any woman that speaks up about GamerGate gets doxed (see Felicia Day), whereas men don't (Chris Kluwe, for example).
A domesticabuse victim posting about his abuse is not an "attack on women". Furthermore if you actually give a damn about women who speak up and get doxed for it how about the somewhere around 30 people (primarily women and minorities) that anti-gghave not only doxed and sent death/rape threats to but also gotten fired from their jobs, had their utilities turned off, income halted by fraudulent reports, bank accounts hacked, and even gotten syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail?
If you care so much why don't you go after the people actually behind this, like the GNAA and somethingawful trolls that have repeatedly been proven to be false-flagging the hashtag and paying up to $20 per tweet to do it? People Zoe Quinn herself has been caught retweeting offers for false-flag tweets from?Hell literally just the other day yet another anti-gamergate user was caught posting doxx on 8chan and then trying to blame gamergate for it.
You're sending a very clear message here: You don't actually care about women at all, you only care about women that agree with you.
That is not exactly my experience with the ones I've tried to argue with. Every single one started with these exact same arguments, and every single one came up mostly with irrelevant arguments, ended up talking about Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian were killing their hobby, and when they ran out of arguments, slipped up with a dose of homophobic and misogynist slurs (which at least one of them then tried to cover up).
Mcvos the people criticising gamergate are rich white males screaming "house ni**er" at women, getting black men fired from their jobs, and sending people syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail. Gamergate on the other hand is composed of tens of thousands (at minimum) of people from around the world, disproportionatelywomen and https://i.imgur.com/BgY7IyD.pn...>minorities, who raised over $100,000 for charity... $70,000 of that for feminists to fund female game developers. Feminists which had been viciously attacked and had their attempts to help women shut down and blackballed by a racist transphobic domestic abuser and her mostly rich white male groupies.
P.s. the word "reactionary" is meaningless. Literally everything ever was a reaction to something else, it's a buzzword that sounds scary.
4000? You realise their main subreddit alone has nearly four times that in subscribers right? Even the various automated blocking systems used on twitter have double that or more. On top of that you need only look up "gamergate harassment patrol" to see that they're dealing with even outside actors like the GNAA and various goons so fast that the accounts get suspended before anti-gamergate users can even retweet them for publicity. They even tracked down the source of much of Anita Sarkeesian's harassment to brazil and have furnished all the necessary information to the FBI and brazilian law enforcement... of course Anita has so far refused to actually press charges or do anything about that person. Meanwhile Leigh Alexander, Ben Kuchera, Bob Chipman, Devin Faraci, and many other leading voices on that side of the fence continue to publicly encourage openly racist abuse and even participate in outright doxing.
Also the idea that toxic voices get addressed by other feminists in any meaningful way is demonstrably laughably false. Where's the mainstream voices "addressing" West, Valenti, and Marcotte? Where are they "addressing" the fact alleged "feminists" against gamergate are openly racist and transphobic, have rallied around a domestic abuser, and have encouraged somewhere upwards of 30 outright criminal attacks against primarily women and minorities?
Or to give you what is perhaps one of the most egregious examples: right now in the US one of the most powerful and influential researchers working on the largest and most definitive study of sexual and intimate partner violence is a feminist who has explicitly stated she does not believe men are ever raped by women, but rather that they "choose to engage in unwanted sexual intercourse". Every year the NISVS classifies male rape victims as "other sexual assault".
You would think the deliberate and total erasure of almost 2 million rape victims from one of the most important studies in the US would be the sort of thing that needs to be "addressed".
You're absolutely right about everything you said, but you're aiming at the wrong people. You should be looking at the group largely composed of rich white men that have been screaming "house ni**" and worse at women who dare to speak up. That is when they're not hacking people's bank accounts, getting their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, making a couple attempts at SWATting, and even sending syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
I lost count at 30 people doxxed for supporting gamergate, starting with the black developer who lost his job to racists harassing his boss and going downhill from there to people's bank accounts getting hacked, their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, a couple attempts at SWATting, and even syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
If you want delusional morons you need to look at the rich white men screaming "house ni**" at women.
I lost count at 30 people doxxed by those that claim to stand for "feminism" and against gamergate, starting with the black developer who lost his job to racists harassing his boss and going downhill from there to people's bank accounts getting hacked, their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, a couple attempts at SWATting, and even syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
At this point the "mere" verbal abuse from so called "feminists" screaming racial slurs and making threats at anyone in gamergate is practically background noise compared to the sheer number of people getting doxed and sent fucking knives and dead animals in the mail. And disturbingly all of this has not only been explicitly encouraged at times even participated in by major public figures, it's also been subject to a near complete media blackout. You would think people who care so much about women and minorities would be writing a whole lot about black men losing their jobs because of racists doxing them, or women having their income held up by fraudulent reports, or any of the other thirty plus attacks against primarily women and minorities by mostly rich white men. Unless of course they don't actually give a damn and it's just political opportunism.
>Once a poster crosses this line, they should lose all credibility.... we should boycott all sites that publish these materials....
At this point the hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is so staggering I'm almost starting to believe this is all some kind of kafkaesque modern art performance.
Same thing I'm thinking. There's no way to do this that isn't a serious violation of ethics standards. If you want to give people an inside look feed the poor critter a small camera it can just shit out later.
The author of this blog article (and that's what Medium is, it's livejournal 2.0) is flat out complaining that it's wrong for people to like things she doesn't like. It's not good enough that people accept her doing her own thing, they have to NOT do theirs. It's unacceptable that everyone else enjoyed playing rock band and a sign of horrible discrimination and exclusion that she should ever become part of another culture or group instead of everyone else changing to suit her exact tastes and preferences.
And she wonders why she feels like people walk on eggshells around her and why she feels like she makes people uncomfortable. As usual these days Susan Sons' article on girls and software should be mandatory reading.
It's even worse if you're a woman holding those heretical beliefs. I've seen these people send a woman's information (name/address/the works) to her rapist in revenge.
There's a difference between a well established figure of speech that's nothing but emphasis and making an actual claim that is in no way hyperbole and is very much believed by a great many people.
That actually puts any argument into the realm of extreme misogyny. Anyone decrying those politicians is saying women are too stupid or weak to vote for the "right" candidates according to that person.
It's pretty much exactly what you're saying. By the way did anybody ever say anything about making CS more hostile to women for... why again? Just for shits and giggles? No, they didn't, but you needed a boogeyman.
That's because of of the circular privilege rhetoric. Men are privileged and any time you provide evidence proving otherwise that's actually just proof that men are so privileged their privilege "backfires" and hurts them. It's impossible for anything, no matter how bad it is, to not be male privilege.
And you keep missing the point. You're demanding the entire world stop what it's doing and bend over backwards to get more women into a degree program that's a mere 10% or less of all degrees conferred while men are barely over a mere 1/3rd of graduates in the first place.
"What it actually means" is you're using a pathetically insignificant problem to justify making a catastrophic problem even worse. And by the way nobody ever said the solution is to "make CS biased against women". That's a complete straw man you just made up because you need to fabricate victimhood even where there isn't any.
Women are nearly 2/3rds of all college graduates and overwhelmingly dominate every single measure of academic achievement we have, they are either a majority or near 50/50 in every STEM field save for computer science which itself accounts for 10% or less of degrees conferred.
Women are also majority of voters and control an overwhelming majority of household wealth and income, to say a majority of voters are "discouraged" from using their rights is beyond bullshit and into the realm of pure absurdity. Today women can rape children and force their rape victim to pay child support and men they rape aren't even counted as rape victims. Male victims of female domestic violence are more likely to be arrested than their abuser and nearly half of all men who seek shelter or help as domestic violence victims are accused of being the abuser themselves.
And trying to even *talk* about any of this or ANYTHING other than the "men bad womenvictims" narrative will get you bomb threats, death threats, and even shut down by outright felonies. Those who dare to do more than talk have been the victims of shootings or bankrupted and driven to suicide.
You're right about one thing though. There are real gaps and there are artificial barriers to equality. You're just wrong about who's putting them there and why.
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So you admit to making up a cockamamy excuse to refuse to look at any facts that contradict your prejudices based on an arbitrary "rule" you just pulled out of your ass, even though my source DID actually prove exactly what I was saying... particularly in conjunction with the even more thorough second analysis in the second source.
Right there on the same website Psmears:
Throughout the day, Tuesday, Oct. 14, USU police and administrators worked with state and federal law enforcement agencies to assess the threat to our USU community and Ms. Sarkeesian. Together, we determined that there was no credible threat to students, staff or the speaker, and that this letter was intended to frighten the university into cancelling the event.
So what you're saying is you're a racist misogynist who doesn't believe women and minorities can have a different opinion than you without being tricked or stupid? Also I didn't say a majority were women, I said they were disproportionately women as opposed to the almost universally rich white male demographics they're opposing.
By the way do you have any idea how you look saying it's photoshop when people are holding handwritten signs saying "#gamergate #notyourshield"? You should know that you're echoing a campaign of racially targeted harassment against blacks and other minorities supporting gamergate.
And yknow for someone who cares so much about people "spouting hate" you sure do seem to have a double standard considering you're supporting the side that started screaming racial slurs like "house ni**" at women and minorities, got a black man fired for daring to speak out against white journalists, and have escalated well beyond death threats in phonecalls, emails, and text messages into the realm of mailing people syringes, knives, and dead animals.
Translation: You either didn't look at anything else or you did and realised you needed to try and find SOME way to disingenuously discredit everything even if it took a double standard to do it.
Actually there isn't evidence for the "gamergate is harassment" narrative. There IS evidence of the GNAA and other outside trolls going to the lengths of paying up to $20 for people to tweet while pretending to be part of gamergate, there IS evidence of the gamergate harassment patrol going to the lengths of tracking down the person behind much of Anita's harassment and even filing reports on him with the FBI, there ARE multiple statistical analyses empirically proving gamergate is NOT about harassment...
But there is absolutely no evidence for the conspiracy theory that tens of thousands of men, women, LGBT, and minority gamers from all over the world have banded together dedicated to the cause of driving women out of gaming by raising over $100,000 for charity... including $70,000 for feminists to get women INTO game development.
There is however a fuckton of evidence that a toxic clique of people with incestuous financial and personal ties are pushing a narrative defending themselves while rallying around someone multiple feminists have pointed out is blatantly a gaslighting domestic abuser.
Just like there's a fuckton of evidence for their vicous abusive behavior up to and including, like I said, a whole ton of doxings:
Because it's completely impossible to find out about serious criminal attacks like people getting sent dead animals without following each and every single person individually. Gotcha. If only there were websites where people talked about things that happened, all in one place.
Or even a website that lets you look for things elsewhere on the internet...
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https://twitter.com/GGfeminist...
https://twitter.com/ForemanEri...
https://twitter.com/milky_cand...
http://i.imgur.com/892hZ1A.png
https://twitter.com/FabioFacch...
https://twitter.com/CodeusaSof...
http://imgur.com/BNlLKcn (six people)
http://i.imgur.com/jpRvb52.jpg
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Click my name, I've made a few pretty detailed responses with links both to external websites tracking this and a bunch I copy/paste blasted one particular asshole.
By the way while I love how positively Mcarthyist your "He's one of THEM! COMMUNIST!" response is I forgot to point out that by your own standards you can't trust pretty much anyone condemning gamergate because they're all members of GJP and often have close personal ties or even financial ties to each other through patreon.
Because it's completely impossible to find out about serious criminal attacks like people getting sent dead animals without following each and every single person individually. Gotcha. If only there were websites where people talked about things that happened, all in one place.
Or even a website that lets you look for things elsewhere on the internet...
https://twitter.com/FartToCont...
https://twitter.com/GGfeminist...
https://twitter.com/ForemanEri...
https://twitter.com/milky_cand...
http://i.imgur.com/892hZ1A.png
https://twitter.com/FabioFacch...
https://twitter.com/CodeusaSof...
http://imgur.com/BNlLKcn (six people)
http://i.imgur.com/jpRvb52.jpg
https://twitter.com/Ash_Effect...
https://twitter.com/DanielleGi...
https://twitter.com/coolguyqui...
https://twitter.com/AlephXZero...
https://twitter.com/PlayDanger...
https://twitter.com/Nero/statu...
https://twitter.com/BlackTride...
https://twitter.com/TheBattleA...
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It's certainly what they like to claim, yet they're mainly concerned with the massive corruption surrounding a little indie game that's free and not making anyone any money, while they're ignoring the very large scale corruption surrounding major publishers demanding positive reviews in exchange for money and review copies (Shadows of Mordor anyone?). I have addressed this with GamerGaters before, and they defended it, stating that Shadows of Mordor is objectively good, while Depression Quest is objectively bad. And that apparently makes one type of corruption okay, and the other type a really serious problem.
First off the Shadows of Mordor story was uncovered by gamergate. That's how woefully uninformed or just plain wrong you are about this, you're literally trying to condemn gamergate for not caring about the story that gamergate uncovered and reported on. Second your entire demand here boils down to "why isn't gamergate doing what journalists are supposed to be doing for them!". That's a self answering question.
And yet it's the women that keep getting attacked. Who even knows the names of the men involved? GamerGaters keep harping on about Zoe Quinn, despite her being supposedly irrelevant to what their cause is really supposed to be about.
There have been multiple statistical analyses plainly proving that the "attack" and "harassment" narratives are provably false. You can literally cut out every single mention of Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Feminist Frequency, and hell even Feminism itself and the metrics barely change.
And yet GamerGate started with attacks on women, and any woman that speaks up about GamerGate gets doxed (see Felicia Day), whereas men don't (Chris Kluwe, for example).
A domestic abuse victim posting about his abuse is not an "attack on women". Furthermore if you actually give a damn about women who speak up and get doxed for it how about the somewhere around 30 people (primarily women and minorities) that anti-gghave not only doxed and sent death/rape threats to but also gotten fired from their jobs, had their utilities turned off, income halted by fraudulent reports, bank accounts hacked, and even gotten syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail?
If you care so much why don't you go after the people actually behind this, like the GNAA and somethingawful trolls that have repeatedly been proven to be false-flagging the hashtag and paying up to $20 per tweet to do it? People Zoe Quinn herself has been caught retweeting offers for false-flag tweets from?Hell literally just the other day yet another anti-gamergate user was caught posting doxx on 8chan and then trying to blame gamergate for it.
You're sending a very clear message here: You don't actually care about women at all, you only care about women that agree with you.
That is not exactly my experience with the ones I've tried to argue with. Every single one started with these exact same arguments, and every single one came up mostly with irrelevant arguments, ended up talking about Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian were killing their hobby, and when they ran out of arguments, slipped up with a dose of homophobic and misogynist slurs (which at least one of them then tried to cover up).
I haven't seen
Mcvos the people criticising gamergate are rich white males screaming "house ni**er" at women, getting black men fired from their jobs, and sending people syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail. Gamergate on the other hand is composed of tens of thousands (at minimum) of people from around the world, disproportionately women and https://i.imgur.com/BgY7IyD.pn...>minorities, who raised over $100,000 for charity... $70,000 of that for feminists to fund female game developers. Feminists which had been viciously attacked and had their attempts to help women shut down and blackballed by a racist transphobic domestic abuser and her mostly rich white male groupies.
P.s. the word "reactionary" is meaningless. Literally everything ever was a reaction to something else, it's a buzzword that sounds scary.
4000? You realise their main subreddit alone has nearly four times that in subscribers right? Even the various automated blocking systems used on twitter have double that or more. On top of that you need only look up "gamergate harassment patrol" to see that they're dealing with even outside actors like the GNAA and various goons so fast that the accounts get suspended before anti-gamergate users can even retweet them for publicity. They even tracked down the source of much of Anita Sarkeesian's harassment to brazil and have furnished all the necessary information to the FBI and brazilian law enforcement... of course Anita has so far refused to actually press charges or do anything about that person. Meanwhile Leigh Alexander, Ben Kuchera, Bob Chipman, Devin Faraci, and many other leading voices on that side of the fence continue to publicly encourage openly racist abuse and even participate in outright doxing.
Also the idea that toxic voices get addressed by other feminists in any meaningful way is demonstrably laughably false. Where's the mainstream voices "addressing" West, Valenti, and Marcotte? Where are they "addressing" the fact alleged "feminists" against gamergate are openly racist and transphobic, have rallied around a domestic abuser, and have encouraged somewhere upwards of 30 outright criminal attacks against primarily women and minorities?
Or to give you what is perhaps one of the most egregious examples: right now in the US one of the most powerful and influential researchers working on the largest and most definitive study of sexual and intimate partner violence is a feminist who has explicitly stated she does not believe men are ever raped by women, but rather that they "choose to engage in unwanted sexual intercourse". Every year the NISVS classifies male rape victims as "other sexual assault".
You would think the deliberate and total erasure of almost 2 million rape victims from one of the most important studies in the US would be the sort of thing that needs to be "addressed".
You're absolutely right about everything you said, but you're aiming at the wrong people. You should be looking at the group largely composed of rich white men that have been screaming "house ni**" and worse at women who dare to speak up. That is when they're not hacking people's bank accounts, getting their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, making a couple attempts at SWATting, and even sending syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
I lost count at 30 people doxxed for supporting gamergate, starting with the black developer who lost his job to racists harassing his boss and going downhill from there to people's bank accounts getting hacked, their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, a couple attempts at SWATting, and even syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
If you want delusional morons you need to look at the rich white men screaming "house ni**" at women.
I lost count at 30 people doxxed by those that claim to stand for "feminism" and against gamergate, starting with the black developer who lost his job to racists harassing his boss and going downhill from there to people's bank accounts getting hacked, their utilities turned off, their income held up by fraud, a couple attempts at SWATting, and even syringes, knives, and dead animals in the mail.
At this point the "mere" verbal abuse from so called "feminists" screaming racial slurs and making threats at anyone in gamergate is practically background noise compared to the sheer number of people getting doxed and sent fucking knives and dead animals in the mail. And disturbingly all of this has not only been explicitly encouraged at times even participated in by major public figures, it's also been subject to a near complete media blackout. You would think people who care so much about women and minorities would be writing a whole lot about black men losing their jobs because of racists doxing them, or women having their income held up by fraudulent reports, or any of the other thirty plus attacks against primarily women and minorities by mostly rich white men. Unless of course they don't actually give a damn and it's just political opportunism.
>Once a poster crosses this line, they should lose all credibility.... we should boycott all sites that publish these materials....
At this point the hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is so staggering I'm almost starting to believe this is all some kind of kafkaesque modern art performance.
Same thing I'm thinking. There's no way to do this that isn't a serious violation of ethics standards. If you want to give people an inside look feed the poor critter a small camera it can just shit out later.
The author of this blog article (and that's what Medium is, it's livejournal 2.0) is flat out complaining that it's wrong for people to like things she doesn't like. It's not good enough that people accept her doing her own thing, they have to NOT do theirs. It's unacceptable that everyone else enjoyed playing rock band and a sign of horrible discrimination and exclusion that she should ever become part of another culture or group instead of everyone else changing to suit her exact tastes and preferences.
And she wonders why she feels like people walk on eggshells around her and why she feels like she makes people uncomfortable. As usual these days Susan Sons' article on girls and software should be mandatory reading.
It's even worse if you're a woman holding those heretical beliefs. I've seen these people send a woman's information (name/address/the works) to her rapist in revenge.
There's a difference between a well established figure of speech that's nothing but emphasis and making an actual claim that is in no way hyperbole and is very much believed by a great many people.
That actually puts any argument into the realm of extreme misogyny. Anyone decrying those politicians is saying women are too stupid or weak to vote for the "right" candidates according to that person.
I'm not, but I'm saying that's how other people would do that.
No no no, you're using way too many words. All you need to do is say she has "internalized misogyny".
It's pretty much exactly what you're saying. By the way did anybody ever say anything about making CS more hostile to women for... why again? Just for shits and giggles? No, they didn't, but you needed a boogeyman.
That's because of of the circular privilege rhetoric. Men are privileged and any time you provide evidence proving otherwise that's actually just proof that men are so privileged their privilege "backfires" and hurts them. It's impossible for anything, no matter how bad it is, to not be male privilege.
And you keep missing the point. You're demanding the entire world stop what it's doing and bend over backwards to get more women into a degree program that's a mere 10% or less of all degrees conferred while men are barely over a mere 1/3rd of graduates in the first place.
"What it actually means" is you're using a pathetically insignificant problem to justify making a catastrophic problem even worse. And by the way nobody ever said the solution is to "make CS biased against women". That's a complete straw man you just made up because you need to fabricate victimhood even where there isn't any.
Women are nearly 2/3rds of all college graduates and overwhelmingly dominate every single measure of academic achievement we have, they are either a majority or near 50/50 in every STEM field save for computer science which itself accounts for 10% or less of degrees conferred.
Women are also majority of voters and control an overwhelming majority of household wealth and income, to say a majority of voters are "discouraged" from using their rights is beyond bullshit and into the realm of pure absurdity. Today women can rape children and force their rape victim to pay child support and men they rape aren't even counted as rape victims. Male victims of female domestic violence are more likely to be arrested than their abuser and nearly half of all men who seek shelter or help as domestic violence victims are accused of being the abuser themselves.
And trying to even *talk* about any of this or ANYTHING other than the "men bad womenvictims" narrative will get you bomb threats, death threats, and even shut down by outright felonies. Those who dare to do more than talk have been the victims of shootings or bankrupted and driven to suicide.
You're right about one thing though. There are real gaps and there are artificial barriers to equality. You're just wrong about who's putting them there and why.