When, exactly, has Wikileaks actively gathered evidence?
You'll recall that the guy who says he was chatting with Manning (of the quarter million stolen US State Department documents) said that Wikileaks actually made special arrangements for Manning. Worked actively with Manning to collect and stash all of that stuff. Whether, or to what degree, that's true is one of the things they (the DoD prosecutors) are still digging through.
I'm not sure why you're in such a twist about this. Our foreign policy position is that the government of Iran is hostile, murderous, openly supports international terrorism, supplies cash and goods to people who do things like blow up polling places and police cadets and the like in the name of destabilizing representative government and promoting their vision (which includes things like beard police, arresting people who use the word "pizza," and putting people to death for having the wrong opinion about Islam). That's a rational foreign policy. Lending such a government more credibility by treating them in any way like we do governments that don't directly advocate blowing other countries off the map is irrational. One way to express that disapproval is to take a stand on what sort of technology we'll tacitly approve of their acquiring.
I realize that this is falling on deaf ears, since you think police officers are the biggest threat on the road. With a case of mixed premises that bad, little is going to make sense to you.
And as to the assertion that ironic phrases never enter common usage, I have but two words to say:
"Yeah, right."
Nobody doubts that irony plays a role in common usage. The point is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the lazy use of "could care less" is meant as irony. It's just poor monkey-mouthing of something like the sounds and syllables used by people who actually say the thing that makes some sort of contextual sense.
I have yet - when asking a person who says "I could care less" just how much less they could care - ever seen a single person (out of many) do anything other than stop, stare blankly for a moment as they actually think for the first time about the words they just used, and say, "I meant, 'not', I guess."
Not petty BS. Principle. The government of Iran is a brutal, mysoginstic, thuggish theocracy that jails and kills people because they speak out against it. Google is saying, "Here, people of Iran, use our stuff. Government of Iran? We're taking a symbolic step to point out that we consider you to be illegitimate and evil." What's wrong with that? Nothing.
"I could care less" is a contraction of "As if I could care less", i.e. "I could not care less".
No. People who say, "I could care less" are lazily not using one syllable. They hear (from people who use it correctly) the contraction, "I couldn't care less." And because so many people are idiots, they just utter a string of sounds that come across as roughly the same. The "nt" on the end, which gives the entire phrase its actual meaning, is left off because people are just being bad mimics, and not actually connecting words to the thoughts behind them.
Which is no surprise, since very few people actually think about what they say or hear.
Except that tasks become increasingly difficult the more nerds you throw at them, not less. 500 engineers makes a project harder than 200.
Which is exactly my point. It's amazing that the casual way they handle code could work with 200 programmers, let alone 500. See? "Let alone" means "never mind." As in, it's hard enough for 200, and 500 isn't even worth mentioning... so, let it alone. And that's why I pointed out that the phrase was being used exactly backwards.
Engineer is just another cheap title, like CEO/CFO/CIO/CTO, etc, free to be used by anyone.
No, this is not true. There is a big difference between being the employee of a company and being an officer of the company. Those "O" titles actually mean something. Doesn't mean that the people who are officers of the company are the right people for those roles, but there's real baggage that comes with those titles, including a higher standard for the consequences of entering into contracts, obligating the company to act or pay bills, etc.Being an "O" also makes you more of a law suit magnet.
It's astonishing that they can keep such a process rolling with 500 engineers, let alone 200
I'm always curious about this expression, which - just like "I could care less" in place of "I could not care less" - is the opposite of what's meant. Surely, 200 would be astonishing, let alone 500.
Actually, I don't believe Wal-Mart sells bullets at all. Only complete cartridges. No separate reloading components like brass, hulls, primers, powder, shot, slugs, and bullets - you've usually got to go to a specialty shop or gun show (or mail order) for that sort of thing.
They may, though, cater to the muzzle-loading people during deer season, which is a somewhat different pile of stuff. Ironically, if he'd been into muzzle loading, he'd probably have had a few cans of black powder, and been able to easily kill a lot more than the six people he killed. But I'm not giving him a lot of credit for thinking his little bit of mayhem through. He didn't want to do the most damaage, he wanted to star in his own mental action movie. He could just as easily have rented a van and run down a dozen people in the crowd.
single-payer. No more health insurance companies. Everyone gets coverage
What that means is: everyone gets mediocre services after a long wait in line, while a small minority actually pay the system's real costs, and those who make an unusually large amount of money can just buy the services they really want anyway, from the boutiques that would spring up to serve them. A "single payer" (which means: small portion of the population are actual payers) system does nothing to make an MRI machine less expensive, does nothing to make disposable syringes less expensive, does nothing to require fewer man hours of technical talent in the radiology department, does nothing to make it less expensive to go through medical school, or any more attractive to enter a profession that would then be even less rewarding (in the same way that doctors are now turning away medicare patients because they go broke if that's how they spend their limited time), etc.
We certainly agree on tort reform. It shouldn't cost an OB/GYN with a perfect track record a quarter of a million dollars every year in insurance to fend off people like John Edwards, who collects 30% of the lottery winnings they get for a parent client who had a "difficult delivery" and has a child with problems that can't - using anything like real science - be connected to the act of giving birth under the supervision of the doctor that ends up writing the lottery check.
Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a statement saying, "I... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."
It's a shame she (an obvious expert on the constitution) isn't allowed actually share that information with anyone in the public. Just think how that would straighten things out.
The Oxford English Dictionary and Webster's International Dictionary (3rd edition) define it as a person who becomes a citizen at birth (as opposed to becoming one later).
I know you really don't want to admit it, but it's not about whether he's a citizen (that's not up for debate). It's about the constitution's specific use of and definition of "natural born" at the time, and the emphasis on the citizenry of the parents (plural).
Some of the cases have been dismissed because of the plaintiff's lack of standing.
OK, so those cases have had nothing to say on the facts at hand.
The relevant courts have either denied all applications or declined to render a judgment due to lack of jurisdiction
So, neither have they.
commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii's statehood, including the text, "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."[71] The vote passed 378-0.[72]
And you're quoting this because it sheds what sort of light on the issue of his parents' places of birth and citizenship? The issue at hand are frequent referencs in common law and the surrounding correspondence by the framers to the special case of the president (as opposed to other office holders) as needing to be the child of parents who are (both) natural citizens. Obama is obviously a citizen. But he doesn't fit into that specific, very specific category that the founders considered important at a time when foreign influence at the executive level was considered a real potential problem.
No, thus proving that the progressive agenda in that regard, despite her attempts to ram it through using lies and obfuscation, were too toxic for even the rest of her own caucus. That didn't prove she isn't a progressive, it proved that being one and actually saying out loud what you want gets exactly the response one would expect: most people want no part of it, and will act to rein it in.
The Tea Part IS full of violent individuals and racists
You sure sound confident of that. So, let's see some indication, other than shrill foot-stamping by Nanny Statists, that that's actually true. Please, do tell.
I notice that you're cleverly referring to Tea Party "members" rather than to that movement's actual platform. Using your standard, I can come up with a laundry list of democrats who have issued death threats against political opponents, advocated violence, recommended the burning down of structures they don't like, etc. I guess the Democratic Party is full of violent people, huh.
A natural citizen. Like his mother. End of discussion.
Read up more on the constitution's definition of "naturalness" in this context and for someone born at that time. It's based on the birthplace of both parents.
Why does it matter what his parents did before he was even born?
It matters a lot. In order to meet the constitution's eligibility to be president, people born at time he was born needed to be "natural born citizens," which is a reference to the birth place of one's parents. The badly scanned document that we're all allowed to see just doesn't establish his dad as a US-born citizen. Which, of course, he wasn't. The law was subsequently changed, to impact later births. The (non-crazy) people harping on this aren't talking about where he was born or the fact that he's a citizen (he is), but about his eligibility for his current office given the lack of two natively born parents at the time. If he were born today, or not longer after he actually was, it wouldn't matter. As it stands, the constitution would have to be further amended to make this actually go away.
Most of the protests weren't covered, or were downplayed.
You know why? Because chanting in the street by a tiny fraction of a percent of the population doesn't actually convince anyone of anything. Useful idiots carrying large puppets and burning conservatives in effigy just gets boring after a while. But the media loves to cover Tea Party events, because if they didn't someone might start to think that their narrative about them being violent racists is actually a whole lot of complete BS. They're hoping for a chance to video the sort of window smashing and burning and vandalism that shows up at large lefty anti-war, anti-business, anti-world-economy rallies, and they keep not getting it. But they're always hopeful.
Meanwhile, true progressives have no voice in government anymore.
Yeah, that's a shame. All they have right now is they guy who controls the legislative agenda in the Senate. And they had the person who controlled the legistlative agenda in the House, as well, but her absurd antics in the name of progressivism are exactly why that's no longer true. If progressives don't have "a voice" (really? there are some very vocal, very left people in congress) because one of the most left of them just lost her speakership, it's because progressives showed their nature in ramming through the monstrosity that is that health care fiasco, and got roundly and appropriately spanked for it by voters.
Interesting theory... except for the fact that Obama's birth certificat has been produced, a copy is available on-line, and its validity has been repeatedly verified by the state of Hawaii.
And yours is an interesting theory, aside from the whole not being true part. Good one, though, especially taking the opportunity to do a little race baiting. Excellent! Keep up the good work on behalf of the state, citiizen.
The debate, incidentally, isn't over his nationality, but over the timing of the requirement that he be a "natural born citizen," which is a reference to his parents, not to him. At least be oily and misleading about the right stuff, OK?
There certainly are apps that use it with Apple's blessings. Square is the obvious and rather cool one (works on the iPod, iPad, and some 'droids, too).
Except it is unlimited. They're not capping your data, and they're keeping it available to you regardless. You can keep on using as much of it as you want, whenever you want. If you're a serious hog, it slows down a bit when you've gone way past what normal customers use. This is completely reasonable as a way to keep prices down.
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When, exactly, has Wikileaks actively gathered evidence?
You'll recall that the guy who says he was chatting with Manning (of the quarter million stolen US State Department documents) said that Wikileaks actually made special arrangements for Manning. Worked actively with Manning to collect and stash all of that stuff. Whether, or to what degree, that's true is one of the things they (the DoD prosecutors) are still digging through.
I'm not sure why you're in such a twist about this. Our foreign policy position is that the government of Iran is hostile, murderous, openly supports international terrorism, supplies cash and goods to people who do things like blow up polling places and police cadets and the like in the name of destabilizing representative government and promoting their vision (which includes things like beard police, arresting people who use the word "pizza," and putting people to death for having the wrong opinion about Islam). That's a rational foreign policy. Lending such a government more credibility by treating them in any way like we do governments that don't directly advocate blowing other countries off the map is irrational. One way to express that disapproval is to take a stand on what sort of technology we'll tacitly approve of their acquiring.
I realize that this is falling on deaf ears, since you think police officers are the biggest threat on the road. With a case of mixed premises that bad, little is going to make sense to you.
And as to the assertion that ironic phrases never enter common usage, I have but two words to say:
"Yeah, right."
Nobody doubts that irony plays a role in common usage. The point is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the lazy use of "could care less" is meant as irony. It's just poor monkey-mouthing of something like the sounds and syllables used by people who actually say the thing that makes some sort of contextual sense.
I have yet - when asking a person who says "I could care less" just how much less they could care - ever seen a single person (out of many) do anything other than stop, stare blankly for a moment as they actually think for the first time about the words they just used, and say, "I meant, 'not', I guess."
Re-read it. He thinks there should be some sort of due process involved.
ICE? immigration? WTF?
So here you are making what sounds like a complex complaint about all of this, and you can't be bothered to look up what the "C" stands for?
Not petty BS. Principle. The government of Iran is a brutal, mysoginstic, thuggish theocracy that jails and kills people because they speak out against it. Google is saying, "Here, people of Iran, use our stuff. Government of Iran? We're taking a symbolic step to point out that we consider you to be illegitimate and evil." What's wrong with that? Nothing.
"I could care less" is a contraction of "As if I could care less", i.e. "I could not care less".
No. People who say, "I could care less" are lazily not using one syllable. They hear (from people who use it correctly) the contraction, "I couldn't care less." And because so many people are idiots, they just utter a string of sounds that come across as roughly the same. The "nt" on the end, which gives the entire phrase its actual meaning, is left off because people are just being bad mimics, and not actually connecting words to the thoughts behind them.
Which is no surprise, since very few people actually think about what they say or hear.
Except that tasks become increasingly difficult the more nerds you throw at them, not less. 500 engineers makes a project harder than 200.
... so, let it alone. And that's why I pointed out that the phrase was being used exactly backwards.
Which is exactly my point. It's amazing that the casual way they handle code could work with 200 programmers, let alone 500. See? "Let alone" means "never mind." As in, it's hard enough for 200, and 500 isn't even worth mentioning
Engineer is just another cheap title, like CEO/CFO/CIO/CTO, etc, free to be used by anyone.
No, this is not true. There is a big difference between being the employee of a company and being an officer of the company. Those "O" titles actually mean something. Doesn't mean that the people who are officers of the company are the right people for those roles, but there's real baggage that comes with those titles, including a higher standard for the consequences of entering into contracts, obligating the company to act or pay bills, etc.Being an "O" also makes you more of a law suit magnet.
It's astonishing that they can keep such a process rolling with 500 engineers, let alone 200
I'm always curious about this expression, which - just like "I could care less" in place of "I could not care less" - is the opposite of what's meant. Surely, 200 would be astonishing, let alone 500.
Actually, I don't believe Wal-Mart sells bullets at all. Only complete cartridges. No separate reloading components like brass, hulls, primers, powder, shot, slugs, and bullets - you've usually got to go to a specialty shop or gun show (or mail order) for that sort of thing.
They may, though, cater to the muzzle-loading people during deer season, which is a somewhat different pile of stuff. Ironically, if he'd been into muzzle loading, he'd probably have had a few cans of black powder, and been able to easily kill a lot more than the six people he killed. But I'm not giving him a lot of credit for thinking his little bit of mayhem through. He didn't want to do the most damaage, he wanted to star in his own mental action movie. He could just as easily have rented a van and run down a dozen people in the crowd.
another way to protect the rich from the people they hurt
Most doctors lead merely middle class lives. Get over your delusions and class-baiting hate.
single-payer. No more health insurance companies. Everyone gets coverage
What that means is: everyone gets mediocre services after a long wait in line, while a small minority actually pay the system's real costs, and those who make an unusually large amount of money can just buy the services they really want anyway, from the boutiques that would spring up to serve them. A "single payer" (which means: small portion of the population are actual payers) system does nothing to make an MRI machine less expensive, does nothing to make disposable syringes less expensive, does nothing to require fewer man hours of technical talent in the radiology department, does nothing to make it less expensive to go through medical school, or any more attractive to enter a profession that would then be even less rewarding (in the same way that doctors are now turning away medicare patients because they go broke if that's how they spend their limited time), etc.
We certainly agree on tort reform. It shouldn't cost an OB/GYN with a perfect track record a quarter of a million dollars every year in insurance to fend off people like John Edwards, who collects 30% of the lottery winnings they get for a parent client who had a "difficult delivery" and has a child with problems that can't - using anything like real science - be connected to the act of giving birth under the supervision of the doctor that ends up writing the lottery check.
Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a statement saying, "I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."
It's a shame she (an obvious expert on the constitution) isn't allowed actually share that information with anyone in the public. Just think how that would straighten things out.
The Oxford English Dictionary and Webster's International Dictionary (3rd edition) define it as a person who becomes a citizen at birth (as opposed to becoming one later).
I know you really don't want to admit it, but it's not about whether he's a citizen (that's not up for debate). It's about the constitution's specific use of and definition of "natural born" at the time, and the emphasis on the citizenry of the parents (plural).
Some of the cases have been dismissed because of the plaintiff's lack of standing.
OK, so those cases have had nothing to say on the facts at hand.
The relevant courts have either denied all applications or declined to render a judgment due to lack of jurisdiction
So, neither have they.
commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii's statehood, including the text, "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."[71] The vote passed 378-0.[72]
And you're quoting this because it sheds what sort of light on the issue of his parents' places of birth and citizenship? The issue at hand are frequent referencs in common law and the surrounding correspondence by the framers to the special case of the president (as opposed to other office holders) as needing to be the child of parents who are (both) natural citizens. Obama is obviously a citizen. But he doesn't fit into that specific, very specific category that the founders considered important at a time when foreign influence at the executive level was considered a real potential problem.
Thus proving she is not?
No, thus proving that the progressive agenda in that regard, despite her attempts to ram it through using lies and obfuscation, were too toxic for even the rest of her own caucus. That didn't prove she isn't a progressive, it proved that being one and actually saying out loud what you want gets exactly the response one would expect: most people want no part of it, and will act to rein it in.
The Tea Part IS full of violent individuals and racists
You sure sound confident of that. So, let's see some indication, other than shrill foot-stamping by Nanny Statists, that that's actually true. Please, do tell.
I notice that you're cleverly referring to Tea Party "members" rather than to that movement's actual platform. Using your standard, I can come up with a laundry list of democrats who have issued death threats against political opponents, advocated violence, recommended the burning down of structures they don't like, etc. I guess the Democratic Party is full of violent people, huh.
None of those folks are progressive ... name one person ... with at least a public option
You mean, like Nancy Pelosi, who swore she wouldn't allow such a bill without one? Like her?
A natural citizen. Like his mother. End of discussion.
Read up more on the constitution's definition of "naturalness" in this context and for someone born at that time. It's based on the birthplace of both parents.
Why does it matter what his parents did before he was even born?
It matters a lot. In order to meet the constitution's eligibility to be president, people born at time he was born needed to be "natural born citizens," which is a reference to the birth place of one's parents. The badly scanned document that we're all allowed to see just doesn't establish his dad as a US-born citizen. Which, of course, he wasn't. The law was subsequently changed, to impact later births. The (non-crazy) people harping on this aren't talking about where he was born or the fact that he's a citizen (he is), but about his eligibility for his current office given the lack of two natively born parents at the time. If he were born today, or not longer after he actually was, it wouldn't matter. As it stands, the constitution would have to be further amended to make this actually go away.
Most of the protests weren't covered, or were downplayed.
You know why? Because chanting in the street by a tiny fraction of a percent of the population doesn't actually convince anyone of anything. Useful idiots carrying large puppets and burning conservatives in effigy just gets boring after a while. But the media loves to cover Tea Party events, because if they didn't someone might start to think that their narrative about them being violent racists is actually a whole lot of complete BS. They're hoping for a chance to video the sort of window smashing and burning and vandalism that shows up at large lefty anti-war, anti-business, anti-world-economy rallies, and they keep not getting it. But they're always hopeful.
problem is our system was accidentally designed
Yes, that damn first amendment. It's a real pain, isn't it?
Meanwhile, true progressives have no voice in government anymore.
Yeah, that's a shame. All they have right now is they guy who controls the legislative agenda in the Senate. And they had the person who controlled the legistlative agenda in the House, as well, but her absurd antics in the name of progressivism are exactly why that's no longer true. If progressives don't have "a voice" (really? there are some very vocal, very left people in congress) because one of the most left of them just lost her speakership, it's because progressives showed their nature in ramming through the monstrosity that is that health care fiasco, and got roundly and appropriately spanked for it by voters.
Interesting theory... except for the fact that Obama's birth certificat has been produced, a copy is available on-line, and its validity has been repeatedly verified by the state of Hawaii.
And yours is an interesting theory, aside from the whole not being true part. Good one, though, especially taking the opportunity to do a little race baiting. Excellent! Keep up the good work on behalf of the state, citiizen.
The debate, incidentally, isn't over his nationality, but over the timing of the requirement that he be a "natural born citizen," which is a reference to his parents, not to him. At least be oily and misleading about the right stuff, OK?
There certainly are apps that use it with Apple's blessings. Square is the obvious and rather cool one (works on the iPod, iPad, and some 'droids, too).
Except it is unlimited. They're not capping your data, and they're keeping it available to you regardless. You can keep on using as much of it as you want, whenever you want. If you're a serious hog, it slows down a bit when you've gone way past what normal customers use. This is completely reasonable as a way to keep prices down.