I'd like to be free to say what I want - even though I probably wouldn't exercise that freedom - without the Canadian government telling me that what I say is obscene, unfair or unjust, and therefore proving that I have freedom of speech to a point, similar to the way that China has freedom of speech to a point.
Similar to the way that the US has freedom of speech to a point -- several things (e.g. child pornography) are considered obscene and not allowed. I believe Canada adds to this legislation against blatant hate speech (kill-the-(race name) stuff only).
I'd like to be free to drive on roads without jackasses talking on cellphones reversing on freeways because they've missed their exits.
This has what to do with Canada in particular? (Would you rather infringe on freedom by banning cellphones?) No doubt you've experienced Ontario drivers, and I feel sorry for you, but you may want to visit Florida one of these days...
I'd like to be free to live in a country where national unity is not a central issue to every political decision.
It isn't. Not at all. No more so, perhaps even less so, than abortion is in the US. And at least the separatists have stopped bombing.
I'd like to be free to live in a land where what is played on TV and radio stations is based on market demands
Wow. You're arguing for the wonderful, based-on-market-demands quality of American commercial radio? Look, I'll take the Tragically Hip or Sloan or any of the other cancon staples over Britney Spears or Limp Bizkit any day. Actually, not only do most Canadians agree with me, but these regulations have succeeded in creating a real Canadian music scene, generally far less manufactured and formulaic than the American one.
Most of all, I'd like to be free to go outside without fearing for my life for 5 months of the year
You'd rather go outside in certain neighbourhoods fearing for your life for 12 months of the year due to guns? OK, cheap shot, I know. But you're trying to tell me that New York or Dallas has better weather than, say, Vancouver?
I'd like to be free to live in a land where the politicians don't waste millions of dollars trying to figure out why all of Canada's best, brightest and most talented are moving to the United States
Except for the fact that they're not -- no more than the best and brightest of other countries are coming to Canada, at least. Plus, politicians waste millions of dollars on everything. Face it.
The rest of your points are basically arguing against a semi-socialist system. And yes, the Canadian gov't has some socialist elements. And, yes, socialism will almost never improve the standard of living of the rich. In moderation, however, it will improve the average standard of living, and that's why most Canadians support it -- we're not interested in a government by the wealthy for the wealthy.
Yes, and the publishers aren't arguing that! There's no legal argument involved here; they're not at all questioning the legality of used book sales. In fact, they're not even questioning used book sales for older/out-of-print books.
All they're doing is making the argument that for the market leader in online new-book sales to heavily promote used books hurts the book market as a whole, by discouraging the purchase of new books (and therefore author royalties) and by encouraging people to sell their books as soon as they've finished reading them. Whether you agree with this is up to you, but don't shout "it's legal! it's legal!" because nobody's questioning that fact.
The greatest talents have never needed money to motivate them...
Ada Augusta
Let's fill out Ada Augusta's name, shall we? Full name: Ada Augusta Byron, Countess of Lovelace. Notice the Byron in there? The Countess? She was a member of the aristocracy, rich from birth.
That's the problem. This argument is only valid for those with enough money to live comfortably without work. And I have to disagree about the programmers; people who hack away for hours without pay tend overwhelmingly to be students, either at private schools (they're funded by their parents, hardly a plausible foundation for a culture) or at public/state ones (funded by the government; virtually all those who argue against IP are in favour of smaller government, so I won't even argue this one).
OK, I'll let you know: he's referring to Netscape 6. The problems he's referring to are primarily bloat and lack of speed.
And I've installed Komodo (on Windows) and, though I was looking forward to it, I'm disappointed. It does indeed suffer from the Mozilla problems: it's slow and clunky. Make that very, very slow, and very painfully clunky. Some of its features are quite nice, namely the real-time syntax checks and the easy-to-use debugger. Other things seem missing: extremely little customisation possible, no ability to run your own code while paused at a breakpoint, no integrated language reference, etc.
But more than anything else, the interface just feels slow. That, unfortunately, seems to be affecting all Mozilla products. I do a lot of Perl programming, and I'd love an IDE, but for now I'm going to have to stick with my text editor. (Luckily, ActiveState is developing a Perl plugin for the next version of msdev which, no matter what you think of Microsoft, is the model upon which IDEs are based.)
So your point is that the actual replies would be buried in the flood of non-replies... much like actual discussion here is being buried by the endless SPAMMING of this non-idea!
- Open source or not, all software is expected to continually improve. Trust me, Microsoft has many programmers currently working on improving IE. How is Mozilla any different? Anyway, this review was about Netscape 6.0, which is out and final.
- Mozilla has been in the public domain for something like two years now.
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the way you can assert your ethics is simply not to run a Freenet node, and maybe by sending some money to one of the organisations who are on your side (MPAA, AFA, the Chinese communist government, etc).
Yeah, the Chinese communist government, plus, oh, I don't know, the government of every single industrialised nation on Earth!
This is incredible. Someone says that he doesn't want his computer distributing information that "could kill someone, or could exploit someone against their will". (As well as being morally very questionable, this is almost certainly illegal in most countries.) The response? Scream COMMIE!
Remember that, people. Don't want to aid and abet criminals, eh? Don't want to distribute things which go against every moral you have, huh? Well, ya know, there's a Mr. Mao out there who has a country for Red traitors like you!
Will people PLEASE stop comparing Napster to gun use!
Here's an Introduction to Analogies: the analogy should be something obviously true, that almost everyone agrees with. Many (myself included) do not agree that guns should be fully legal. Several studies have shown gun control to be effective (look at violent crime rates in Canada and the US, for instance). Of course, I'm sure several have shown it to be ineffective -- either way, the issue is even more controversial and uncertain than that of Napster.
Between the press portraying Napster as simply a network of piracy
So what, pray tell, is Napster? There are several good pro-Napster arguments, the best being that they are simply a network and cannot be held responsible for what takes place on their network. But arguing that Napster is anything but a network of piracy simply shows that you must never have looked at it.
And why the Hell isn't it the citizen's job to take care of his kids, instead of letting K-mart...
It is the citizen's job to take care of their kids. K-Mart is not bringing up children, K-Mart is not punishing you when you break your sister's favourite doll. K-Mart is refusing to sell you violent things because society generally accepts that violent things are not appropriate for children. You don't agree? Then buy ManKiller IV for your daughter yourself. Hardly a huge invasion of your life by K-Mart. What you seem to be suggesting is a world where parents bring up their children, take care of their children themselves, but once the child has left home, they're surrounded by evil corporations who will do anything and give the child anything for money. Doesn't sound pleasant.
Oh, and interestingly, the post you replied to & quoted dealt with K-Mart selling guns to children. Shouldn't they do that -- isn't in the citizen's job to raise a child, not K-Mart's job to arbitrarily decide who they'll deign to sell to? I hope you don't agree.
OK, listen to me, people. I have an idea that'll rock your world.
We've got new technology here. Incredible technology. It allows people to get what they want, when they want it. Plus it's on the Information Superhighway, and face it, baby, that just sounds so damn cool.
So. What we gonna do with this here new technology? My friends, the choice is obvious. Use it to continue to box people in with the same tedious, soulless "formats" they can already get on local commercial radio! But here's the revolutionary part: give it a cool logo, or -- this idea is still experimental, I'm not positive that it's not too daring for the public -- give it a name that starts with a lowercase e or i! Oh, and maybe toss in some new formats like "Extra Golden Oldies", "Golden Brown Oldies", or "Quote Unquote Alternative Music That Even We Can't Tell Apart".
Is anyone else here as excited as I am about this? Technology, baby. You gotta love it.
but how much do YOU know about all the legal stuff involved in mixing licenses?
Only a little. I'm not a lawyer. I don't have great experience with legal issues. But I do know one thing: nowhere in law is endless whining and posturing given as an action to take when a license is violated. You think they've violated your license, are doing something illegal, and they disagree and refuse to do what you want them to? Then sue them or shut up. Law is something which is resolved in court, not by endless, endless boring and absurd rhetoric.
Agh - the endless circular discussion about "legal things" in software is maddening. What's happened here? RMS claims that KDE's linking with Qt violates the GPL. So eventually, Troll decides to make Qt available under the GPL, in a bid to finally end the endless whining. And what happens? An article grudgingly and briefly admitting that that's a good thing and that they can no longer say that KDE is illegal, and then going in to several paragraphs about how evil KDE was to do this and how they need to be forgiven and atone for the sins and five Hail Marys in the corner please. It ends by saying our project is still better, ha ha.
This is a soap opera. It's a gigantic ego listening only to its own sound. You think they're violating your license? You think this is illegal? OK, then inform them of this. They disagree and say that what they're doing is legal? Then sue them or shut up! Not suing them but instead just being a drama queen is not an option. If you claim to be dealing with legal matters here, then there's a place called a court where these are decided. I'm pretty damn sure that no law requires him to "grant forgiveness", and I'm positive that publically forgiving someone when they claim they haven't sinned is a snotty, arrogant think to do.
If you really believe that 10k is nothing then you won't mind taking the money out of your own sallary to make the purchase.
That makes zero sense. Money is not an absolute; along with just about everything else, it's relative. I'd guess that you're paying at least USD$20 (or equivalent) per month for Internet access, and that you consider it a reasonable expense. Billions of people in the world couldn't even remotely afford that.
That version of SQL Server is for use on gigantic, far-over-$10K computers with obscene numbers of drives. Microsoft is getting what they think they can afford; the fact that companies do buy it means that the price isn't that outrageous.
True, but making your files available to be downloaded is not trading. When I use Napster, 99% of the time I don't download from the people who download from me, and vice versa. Due to the sheer number of users there, this is standard.
Well of course he didn't say anything about IE, as it wasn't in the discussion! Web servers and browsers are rather different things. After all, your instructions didn't mention getting rid of Netscape or the builtin KDE browser (called khtml? not sure).
And if you remove IIS, it is gone. It does not stay around. It is not integrated with the OS any more than Apache is.
The french can't impose their laws on american citizens!
*cough* Helms-Burton *cough*
This, in case you didn't know, is a US law which allows action to be taken against foreign companies which trade with Cuba. I don't know the exact details, but it's essentially a blatant attempt to impose US foreign policy on other nations.
You've got cause and effect mixed up. The reason this is banned in Germany & France is that Germany & France had, before the bans, strong Nazi movements, and were also both ruled by Nazis. The US has never had a particularly strong Nazi movement.
"Artists" are arrogant and I have no sympathy for them at all.
Rather an arrogant statement, you know. Besides being stereotypical and naive. Anyway: if you don't like artists & their music, feel free not to buy or pirate it. (And yes, I used the word pirate. This is because it's the word in common English usage, despite the connotations. "Manpower" is sexist, true -- that sure doesn't mean I'm going to say "Personpower".)
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Similar to the way that the US has freedom of speech to a point -- several things (e.g. child pornography) are considered obscene and not allowed. I believe Canada adds to this legislation against blatant hate speech (kill-the-(race name) stuff only).
I'd like to be free to drive on roads without jackasses talking on cellphones reversing on freeways because they've missed their exits.
This has what to do with Canada in particular? (Would you rather infringe on freedom by banning cellphones?) No doubt you've experienced Ontario drivers, and I feel sorry for you, but you may want to visit Florida one of these days...
I'd like to be free to live in a country where national unity is not a central issue to every political decision.
It isn't. Not at all. No more so, perhaps even less so, than abortion is in the US. And at least the separatists have stopped bombing.
I'd like to be free to live in a land where what is played on TV and radio stations is based on market demands
Wow. You're arguing for the wonderful, based-on-market-demands quality of American commercial radio? Look, I'll take the Tragically Hip or Sloan or any of the other cancon staples over Britney Spears or Limp Bizkit any day. Actually, not only do most Canadians agree with me, but these regulations have succeeded in creating a real Canadian music scene, generally far less manufactured and formulaic than the American one.
Most of all, I'd like to be free to go outside without fearing for my life for 5 months of the year
You'd rather go outside in certain neighbourhoods fearing for your life for 12 months of the year due to guns? OK, cheap shot, I know. But you're trying to tell me that New York or Dallas has better weather than, say, Vancouver?
I'd like to be free to live in a land where the politicians don't waste millions of dollars trying to figure out why all of Canada's best, brightest and most talented are moving to the United States
Except for the fact that they're not -- no more than the best and brightest of other countries are coming to Canada, at least. Plus, politicians waste millions of dollars on everything. Face it.
The rest of your points are basically arguing against a semi-socialist system. And yes, the Canadian gov't has some socialist elements. And, yes, socialism will almost never improve the standard of living of the rich. In moderation, however, it will improve the average standard of living, and that's why most Canadians support it -- we're not interested in a government by the wealthy for the wealthy.
That's just an urban myth -- they were all counted & included in the certified totals.
Yes, and the publishers aren't arguing that! There's no legal argument involved here; they're not at all questioning the legality of used book sales. In fact, they're not even questioning used book sales for older/out-of-print books.
All they're doing is making the argument that for the market leader in online new-book sales to heavily promote used books hurts the book market as a whole, by discouraging the purchase of new books (and therefore author royalties) and by encouraging people to sell their books as soon as they've finished reading them. Whether you agree with this is up to you, but don't shout "it's legal! it's legal!" because nobody's questioning that fact.
Ada Augusta
Let's fill out Ada Augusta's name, shall we? Full name: Ada Augusta Byron, Countess of Lovelace. Notice the Byron in there? The Countess? She was a member of the aristocracy, rich from birth.
That's the problem. This argument is only valid for those with enough money to live comfortably without work. And I have to disagree about the programmers; people who hack away for hours without pay tend overwhelmingly to be students, either at private schools (they're funded by their parents, hardly a plausible foundation for a culture) or at public/state ones (funded by the government; virtually all those who argue against IP are in favour of smaller government, so I won't even argue this one).
OK, I'll let you know: he's referring to Netscape 6. The problems he's referring to are primarily bloat and lack of speed.
And I've installed Komodo (on Windows) and, though I was looking forward to it, I'm disappointed. It does indeed suffer from the Mozilla problems: it's slow and clunky. Make that very, very slow, and very painfully clunky. Some of its features are quite nice, namely the real-time syntax checks and the easy-to-use debugger. Other things seem missing: extremely little customisation possible, no ability to run your own code while paused at a breakpoint, no integrated language reference, etc.
But more than anything else, the interface just feels slow. That, unfortunately, seems to be affecting all Mozilla products. I do a lot of Perl programming, and I'd love an IDE, but for now I'm going to have to stick with my text editor. (Luckily, ActiveState is developing a Perl plugin for the next version of msdev which, no matter what you think of Microsoft, is the model upon which IDEs are based.)
So your point is that the actual replies would be buried in the flood of non-replies... much like actual discussion here is being buried by the endless SPAMMING of this non-idea!
800 number, yeah -- but what percentage of spams include an 800 number? exactly.
OK, let's see:
- Open source or not, all software is expected to continually improve. Trust me, Microsoft has many programmers currently working on improving IE. How is Mozilla any different? Anyway, this review was about Netscape 6.0, which is out and final.
- Mozilla has been in the public domain for something like two years now.
You appear to have a weird definition of "not topless"... background control module, the third photo. Huh? Huh...
Yeah, the Chinese communist government, plus, oh, I don't know, the government of every single industrialised nation on Earth!
This is incredible. Someone says that he doesn't want his computer distributing information that "could kill someone, or could exploit someone against their will". (As well as being morally very questionable, this is almost certainly illegal in most countries.) The response? Scream COMMIE !
Remember that, people. Don't want to aid and abet criminals, eh? Don't want to distribute things which go against every moral you have, huh? Well, ya know, there's a Mr. Mao out there who has a country for Red traitors like you!
Here's an Introduction to Analogies: the analogy should be something obviously true, that almost everyone agrees with. Many (myself included) do not agree that guns should be fully legal. Several studies have shown gun control to be effective (look at violent crime rates in Canada and the US, for instance). Of course, I'm sure several have shown it to be ineffective -- either way, the issue is even more controversial and uncertain than that of Napster.
Bad example -- several, myself and many countries' governments included, agree wholeheartedly.
So what, pray tell, is Napster? There are several good pro-Napster arguments, the best being that they are simply a network and cannot be held responsible for what takes place on their network. But arguing that Napster is anything but a network of piracy simply shows that you must never have looked at it.
It is the citizen's job to take care of their kids. K-Mart is not bringing up children, K-Mart is not punishing you when you break your sister's favourite doll. K-Mart is refusing to sell you violent things because society generally accepts that violent things are not appropriate for children. You don't agree? Then buy ManKiller IV for your daughter yourself. Hardly a huge invasion of your life by K-Mart. What you seem to be suggesting is a world where parents bring up their children, take care of their children themselves, but once the child has left home, they're surrounded by evil corporations who will do anything and give the child anything for money. Doesn't sound pleasant.
Oh, and interestingly, the post you replied to & quoted dealt with K-Mart selling guns to children. Shouldn't they do that -- isn't in the citizen's job to raise a child, not K-Mart's job to arbitrarily decide who they'll deign to sell to? I hope you don't agree.
OK, listen to me, people. I have an idea that'll rock your world.
We've got new technology here. Incredible technology. It allows people to get what they want, when they want it. Plus it's on the Information Superhighway, and face it, baby, that just sounds so damn cool.
So. What we gonna do with this here new technology? My friends, the choice is obvious. Use it to continue to box people in with the same tedious, soulless "formats" they can already get on local commercial radio! But here's the revolutionary part: give it a cool logo, or -- this idea is still experimental, I'm not positive that it's not too daring for the public -- give it a name that starts with a lowercase e or i! Oh, and maybe toss in some new formats like "Extra Golden Oldies", "Golden Brown Oldies", or "Quote Unquote Alternative Music That Even We Can't Tell Apart".
Is anyone else here as excited as I am about this? Technology, baby. You gotta love it.
Only a little. I'm not a lawyer. I don't have great experience with legal issues. But I do know one thing: nowhere in law is endless whining and posturing given as an action to take when a license is violated. You think they've violated your license, are doing something illegal, and they disagree and refuse to do what you want them to? Then sue them or shut up. Law is something which is resolved in court, not by endless, endless boring and absurd rhetoric.
Agh - the endless circular discussion about "legal things" in software is maddening. What's happened here? RMS claims that KDE's linking with Qt violates the GPL. So eventually, Troll decides to make Qt available under the GPL, in a bid to finally end the endless whining. And what happens? An article grudgingly and briefly admitting that that's a good thing and that they can no longer say that KDE is illegal, and then going in to several paragraphs about how evil KDE was to do this and how they need to be forgiven and atone for the sins and five Hail Marys in the corner please. It ends by saying our project is still better, ha ha.
This is a soap opera. It's a gigantic ego listening only to its own sound. You think they're violating your license? You think this is illegal? OK, then inform them of this. They disagree and say that what they're doing is legal? Then sue them or shut up! Not suing them but instead just being a drama queen is not an option. If you claim to be dealing with legal matters here, then there's a place called a court where these are decided. I'm pretty damn sure that no law requires him to "grant forgiveness", and I'm positive that publically forgiving someone when they claim they haven't sinned is a snotty, arrogant think to do.
That makes zero sense. Money is not an absolute; along with just about everything else, it's relative. I'd guess that you're paying at least USD$20 (or equivalent) per month for Internet access, and that you consider it a reasonable expense. Billions of people in the world couldn't even remotely afford that.
That version of SQL Server is for use on gigantic, far-over-$10K computers with obscene numbers of drives. Microsoft is getting what they think they can afford; the fact that companies do buy it means that the price isn't that outrageous.
You know, punctuation (such as the apostrophe) is part of grammar too.
True, but making your files available to be downloaded is not trading. When I use Napster, 99% of the time I don't download from the people who download from me, and vice versa. Due to the sheer number of users there, this is standard.
Well of course he didn't say anything about IE, as it wasn't in the discussion! Web servers and browsers are rather different things. After all, your instructions didn't mention getting rid of Netscape or the builtin KDE browser (called khtml? not sure).
And if you remove IIS, it is gone. It does not stay around. It is not integrated with the OS any more than Apache is.
Win2k does indeed support USB. And win2k is essentially a marketing name for NT 5.0, so Windows NT has supported USB for about 6 months now.
*cough* Helms-Burton *cough*
This, in case you didn't know, is a US law which allows action to be taken against foreign companies which trade with Cuba. I don't know the exact details, but it's essentially a blatant attempt to impose US foreign policy on other nations.
You've got cause and effect mixed up. The reason this is banned in Germany & France is that Germany & France had, before the bans, strong Nazi movements, and were also both ruled by Nazis. The US has never had a particularly strong Nazi movement.
Rather an arrogant statement, you know. Besides being stereotypical and naive. Anyway: if you don't like artists & their music, feel free not to buy or pirate it. (And yes, I used the word pirate. This is because it's the word in common English usage, despite the connotations. "Manpower" is sexist, true -- that sure doesn't mean I'm going to say "Personpower".)