I'm going to pay $600 so I can run a second copy of something that's already spinning away on my PC right now?
No, you are going to pay $600 to play games and run Linux on a Cell processor. The F@H thing is just a perk that you can either use to double (or quadruple) what you are doing on your PC right now or not. If you pay $600 for a PS3 just to do F@H, you are an idiot.
The Democrats have done the same kinds of things in the past, but people noticed, and they got angry, and they did somethig about it.
When? Chicago during the Kennedy/Nixon election. Kennedy won by a very small margin... so close that removing a few dead Chicago voters would have made a difference in the election. "The Republican National Committee filed a lawsuit challenging the Chicago results. Not coincidentally, the lawsuit was assigned to the courtroom of a judge known to be friendly to Daley and the Democratic party, Circuit Court Judge Thomas Kluczynski. After predictably dismissing the Republican suit, Kluczynski was rewarded by "President" John F. Kennedy with an appointment to the federal bench." "Following Kennedy's inauguration, the U.S. Department of Justice performed an inconclusive investigation into the accumulated evidence of voter fraud. The head of the DOJ was none other than U.S. Attorney General Bobby Kennedy, brother of you-know-who." (From here... good read, I recommend it!)
In other words, I have to call Bullshit on people's anger stopping the Dem's from cheating. With all the tire slashing that happened during this last election, bums given cigarettes and rides to the polls, the retarted taken to the polls with instructions on who to vote for, and of course, I should not mention how many Bush signs were stolen from my front yard, stickers removed from my bumper, keys removing the paint from my car and flyers claiming that the vote has been moved to Wednesday left under my wipers(!!!). I live in Texas BTW, I can't immagine that shit that must go down in Mass, RI, or Ill! Now I'm not saying that Republicans are 100% innocent, but don't give me that bullshit that the Dems don't cheat any more. I've seen them do it first hand. I have never actually seen a Republican cheat, nor read any sustantial proof. (just read about it here, a trusted news source, no doubt)
Thanx, but wouldn't that mean that I am overrated and not necessarily my comment? After all, according to the moderator guidelines, "You are not moderating to make your opinions heard, you are trying to help promote a rational discussion."
First of all, fuck you for being the 'love it or leave it type'. Yeah, I deserved that.
You don't like listening to people like him, then you can go to China or anywhere else free speech isn't tolerated. Americans are allowed to hate anything about their country that they choose and are allowed to seek change any legal way they want; including by complain on slashdot. Which is exactly why the original poster should not be "ashamed to be an American". I tolerate people saying all kinds of bad things about my country and my gov't, some true and some not, but I will not sit by and hear someone claimed to be ashamed of being something they can change. Now if a Cuban were to be ashamed, I'd understand because they are not free to leave, but shame of being an American is not like being ashamed of being white. There are a lot of places where the populace is trapped, but the US is not one of them.
Secondly, the point of the post is that the US and EU are muscling every nation into these kind of copyright regulations. So, leaving it, is becoming increasingly less of an option.
Free to change? I don't know if you've been paying attention, but we're not exactly free to protest and advocate change anymore.
If we are not free to protest, then what have all these large gatherings of people carrying signs and yelling rhyming chants about everything from illegal immigration to 9-11? (Yes, I was threatened with violence by a peace protestor)
My point was that in this free country, there is no reason to be ashamed. Be proud of the fact that you do have rights to orchestrate change and air your grievences, and no one can take that away. If they do, that's why we have the right to bare arms. If you are simply going to bow your head and claim to be ashamed, you have lost the spirit that made this country what it is, and you should go somewhere that will allow you to be proud again.
No. It just disgusts me. I am ashamed to be an American. I hate to be the "love it or leave it" type, but why would you be ashamed of something you are free to change? I understand China is pretty lax about DRM stuff and Canada is nice this time of year.
As long as the data being collected cannot be reviewed, and its source cannot be determined, it is outside of the very carefully designed restrictions established by our Framers to prevent: bullying, intimidation, bills of attainder, and all of the other tyrranical behavior against which they fought a Revolution. Agreed! It's the "bullying, intimidation, bills of attainder and all that other tyrranical behavior" that I have a problem with, not the evesdropping. Currently, I don't see any of that happening to citizens of the US. When I do, I'll scream louder than you are!
Then, excuse me, you're a fucking sheep. So if I don't wear a tinfoil hat, I'm a "fucking sheep"? I assume no more privacy on the phone than I do when talking to my wife in at the local Applebees.
I thought I was talking to a citizen in a free democracy. You are, and I plan on keeping it that way by fighting against those that would strip my gov't of any power to defend me against those that would gladly kill those that live such a free democracy.
The laws in question allow selective enforcement. Not necessarily. What we are talking about here is evesdropping, nothing more. Doing something with the data collected is another matter entirely. Personally, I don't see how someone listening in on my conversations overseas as violating any of my rights, since I have no idea it is happening, it really doesn't have any effect on my life whatsoever.
The fact that evidence can be kept under wraps, and people have been held without trial for years and years and years, means that we don't really know what's going on, only that certain people are being pulled into the system and disappeared, and their rights to an open process are denied. This is not happening to citizens of the US. Even Zac Moussaoui got a fair trial with a jury and everything. So it appears to me that the rights of citizens are fully intact and repression seems to be a myth.
Are you going to wait like Pastor Niemoller, until there is no one left to speak for you? When I see citizens rounded up and thrown into labor camps or marched to gas chambers, I'll speak up. But to scream repression none exists, block our gov't's ability to gather information to defend the population and to demand rights for foreigners who would gladly die killing as many of us as possible is more of a danger than any present threat to the Constitution. If you strip away the governments ability to defend We The People, there will be no Constitution at all.
It now belongs to some white-assed neocons, rich of oil without having to do anything for it, now reducing the american people to the satus of 'property' bit by bit.
TOO harsh ?
not one bit of harsher than what neocons did to american people during the last 8 years - sent them to die in distant hells, taken away their almost every right, cut down the social security and used it for means other than where it was intended, hijacked 2 elections, and supressed your voices in wherever can and whenever they can.
I find it ironic that you are complaining that you have lost every right while you criticize the government who you claim is taking those rights. There seems to be a lot of talk about repression around here by those who, evidently, are not very repressed.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You left out the part about conversations shall not be listened to.
Now that is progress. I will let the families of the thousend of dead Iraquis know about your kindness.
I agree that the death of innocents sucks. However, these innocents were not the target, and that is the key. There is a difference between targeting a valid military target that is stationed in a civilian area and intentionally targeting a civilian target with no military value other than terror. A good example would be Iraq during the first gulf war. Iraq sent missiles into civilian areas with no intention of striking a military target, but to try cause as many civilian casualties as possible. Hamas did the same recently. This is different that striking at military target that is in a civilian area, such as when the enemy sets up shop next to an apartment complex or a school. Yes, civilians will probably die, and it is very unfortunate, but they were not the intended target. The only other option would be to not strike at targets where civies may be, at which point the enemy will simply perform all of their operations from civilian populated areas with complete immunity.
Again, the point I was making was that the US (and other civilized countries) does not target civiians, unlike her enemies which wants as many dead as possible.
Finally, you can save your apologies. The US has already sincerely apologized to the casualties' families, which is more than Iraq or Hamas will ever do.
Well, if you want to count military operations- the vast majority of terrorists are white, in an organization called "The United States Armed Forces" with thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of injuries and hundreds of rapes over the past few years. Not counting various kidnappings and tortures.
Oh, I forgot, you're a right wing racist blowhard. Its ok when we do these things. My appologies.
Yes, of course... America is evil. It does not matter that the US military has not targeted civilians since Vietnam. It doesn't matter that the US military prosecutes those found to be even slightly abusive to civilians or terrorists, because people like you lie through your teeth when you claim things like "hundreds of rapes". If you say it enough times, it must be true. Also, I think my black, hispanic and asian friends I know from my years serving in the US military may take offence to being called "white". Why don't you go find a SGT Castillo or SPC Glover and call them "white rapists" and see how they respond.
Oh, I forgot, you are a left wing communist nut-job who calls a white guy with a hispanic wife and daughter a "racist blowhard". Evidently to you, all who disagree with your point of view must be racists, biggots, baby-killers or whatever the bad word of the day is. You can say stuff like that to me because I'll shake it off because I know you are borderline retarted. However, I wouldn't call my baby's daddy a racist because her mother or her aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents will not be so forgiving.
While I agree with much of what you say, I take issue with this statement: Dubya claiming to be "in communication with God" and then bombing civilians.
Can you tell me where Bush, or any other US President since Nixon intentionally bombed civilians?
You can try and be PC all you want, but the fact is that a vast majority of current terrorism somehow involves Muslims. Maybe there's something in their religion which drives them to it.
The vast majority of all terrorist acts (over 80%) are domestic in nature. This is another thing you don't learn if your only source of information is Ann Coulter on FOX, like the poster I was replying to.
Those who spout statements like "all terrorists are Muslim" deserve to get ridiculed by everyone with an elementary school education.
OK, but I think it's safe to say that the VAST MAJORITY of terrorist attacks in the past five years have been committed by Muslims. You are free to go here and see for yourself. (and that source is neither Ann Coulter nor Fox News since you seem to have a bias against both)
So, before you put your elementary school education to good use, you should do a little research.
ETA. IRA. Ulster Unionists. Tamil Tigers. Aum Shinrikyo. RAF. Clinic bombers. Unabomber. Hate groups like Nazis attacking immigrants in some parts of Europe. KKK. FARC. Jewish Defense League.
That's just off the top of my head.
That's just off the top of my head.
Granted, if you go back 30 years, about half of the attacks are by Muslims. So if Islam did not exist, there would have been half the terrorist attacks. Muslims should be so proud! However, that number chages drastically when you look at the past 5 years. Muslims make up the VAST majority of attacks while most of the other groups you mentioned have fallen silent by comparison. Here are the attacks by Muslims from March of 2001 to Dec 2003 from here:
Airliner Hijacking in Istanbul, March 15, 2001: Three Chechens hijacked a Russian airliner during a flight from Istanbul to Moscow and forced it to fly to Medina, Saudi Arabia. The plane carried 162 passengers and a crew of 12. After a 22-hour siege during which more than 40 passengers were released, Saudi security forces stormed the plane, killing a hijacker, a passenger, and a flight attendant.
Bus Stop Bombing, April 22, 2001: A member of HAMAS detonated a bomb he was carrying near a bus stop in Kfar Siva, Israel, killing one person and injuring 60.
Philippines Hostage Incident, May 27, 2001: Muslim Abu Sayyaf guerrillas seized 13 tourists and 3 staff members at a resort on Palawan Island and took their captives to Basilan Island. The captives included three U.S. citizens: Guellermo Sobero and missionaries Martin and Gracia Burnham. Philippine troops fought a series of battles with the guerrillas between June 1 and June 3 during which 9 hostages escaped and two were found dead. The guerrillas took additional hostages when they seized the hospital in the town of Lamitan. On June 12, Abu Sayyaf spokesman Abu Sabaya claimed that Sobero had been killed and beheaded; his body was found in October. The Burnhams remained in captivity until June 2002.
Tel-Aviv Nightclub Bombing, June 1, 2001: HAMAS claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing of a popular Israeli nightclub that caused over 140 casualties.
HAMAS Restaurant Bombing, August 9, 2001: A HAMAS-planted bomb detonated in a Jerusalem pizza restaurant, killing 15 people and wounding more than 90. The Israeli response included occupation of Orient House, the Palestine Liberation Organization's political headquarters in East Jerusalem.
Suicide Bombing in Israel, September 9, 2001: The first suicide bombing carried out by an Israeli Arab killed 3 persons in Nahariya. HAMAS claimed responsibility.
Death of "the Lion of the Panjshir", September 9, 2001: Two suicide bombers fatally wounded Ahmed Shah Massoud, a leader of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, which had opposed both the Soviet occupation and the post-Soviet Taliban government. The bombers posed as journalists and were apparently linked to al-Qaida. The Northern Alliance did not confirm Massoud's death until September 15.
Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Homeland, September 11, 2001: Two hijacked airliners crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Soon thereafter, the Pentagon was struck by a third hijacked plane. A fourth hijacked plane, suspected to be bound for a high-profile target in Washington, crashed into a field in southern Pennsylvania. The attacks killed 3,025 U.S. citizens and other nationals. President Bush and Cabinet officials indicated that Usama Bin Laden was the prime suspect and that they considered the United States in a state of war with international terrorism. In the aftermath of the attacks, the United States formed the Global Coalition Against Terrorism.
Attack on the Jammu and Kashmir Legislature, October 1, 2001: After a suicide car bomber forced the gate of the state legislature in Srinagar, two gunmen entered the building and held off police for seven hours before being killed. Forty persons died in the incident. Jaish-e-Muhammad claimed responsibility.
McVeigh was part of an organization- he had accomplices, remember? McVeigh had an accomplice... one as I recall. Hardly an organization.
McVeigh is responsible for the 2nd biggest attack in the US in terms of lives and property destroyed. No, Japan is 2nd with Pearl Harbor. The British hold the next several slots with attacks during the war of 1812. McVeigh is further down the list. Of course, that's just attacks on US soil. He falls much further when you include civilians all over the world.
Yes, I do. Every time something happens you hear a shitload of Imams coming out and derying it. Try listening to something other than Fox News. I do, and all I hear is crickets. I do remember Muslims handing out candy on 9-11. I have yet to see the Million Muslim March on Mecca denouncing terrorism.
A few years ago. An abortion doctor was killed abotu 6 months ago. So if we have on abortion doctor killed every six months, in 1500 years, assuming that there are no more Muslim terrorist attacks by then, I'll put abortion doctor killers in the same league as Al Qaeda.
You're looking at a tiny percentage of all terrorist acts, and claiming that nearly all are done by Muslim. Thats whats known as "cooking the data". All I've cooked is dinner. Here are some of the attacks by Muslims from 2001 to 2003 from The State Dept. Be sure to read the whole list and tell me that Muslims make up a tiny percentage of terrorist attacks.
Airliner Hijacking in Istanbul, March 15, 2001: Three Chechens hijacked a Russian airliner during a flight from Istanbul to Moscow and forced it to fly to Medina, Saudi Arabia. The plane carried 162 passengers and a crew of 12. After a 22-hour siege during which more than 40 passengers were released, Saudi security forces stormed the plane, killing a hijacker, a passenger, and a flight attendant.
Bus Stop Bombing, April 22, 2001: A member of HAMAS detonated a bomb he was carrying near a bus stop in Kfar Siva, Israel, killing one person and injuring 60.
Philippines Hostage Incident, May 27, 2001: Muslim Abu Sayyaf guerrillas seized 13 tourists and 3 staff members at a resort on Palawan Island and took their captives to Basilan Island. The captives included three U.S. citizens: Guellermo Sobero and missionaries Martin and Gracia Burnham. Philippine troops fought a series of battles with the guerrillas between June 1 and June 3 during which 9 hostages escaped and two were found dead. The guerrillas took additional hostages when they seized the hospital in the town of Lamitan. On June 12, Abu Sayyaf spokesman Abu Sabaya claimed that Sobero had been killed and beheaded; his body was found in October. The Burnhams remained in captivity until June 2002.
Tel-Aviv Nightclub Bombing, June 1, 2001: HAMAS claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing of a popular Israeli nightclub that caused over 140 casualties.
HAMAS Restaurant Bombing, August 9, 2001: A HAMAS-planted bomb detonated in a Jerusalem pizza restaurant, killing 15 people and wounding more than 90. The Israeli response included occupation of Orient House, the Palestine Liberation Organization's political headquarters in East Jerusalem.
Suicide Bombing in Israel, September 9, 2001: The first suicide bombing carried out by an Israeli Arab killed 3 persons in Nahariya. HAMAS claimed responsibility.
Death of "the Lion of the Panjshir", September 9, 2001: Two suicide bombers fatally wounded Ahmed Shah Massoud, a leader of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, which had opposed both the Soviet occupation and the post-Soviet Taliban government. The bombers posed as journalists and were apparently linked to al-Qaida. The Northern Alliance did not confirm Massoud's death until September 15.
Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Homeland, September 11, 2001: Two hijacked airliners crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Soon thereafter, the Pentagon was struck by
The Shining Path killed nearly ten times as many people as al-Qaeda. Not here they haven't.
And I get so sick of the right wing in this country complaining that Muslims don't condemn terrorism. If you don't hear it, then you're not listening for it. Oh, I've been listening for it. Lipservice does little to stop radical Muslims. Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Where are the Muslim celebrations when a "big fish" is caught or killed? Those I have not seen. I have seen are Muslims handing out candy in celebration of the 9-11 attacks where 3000 innocent civilians died. I have yet to see a million muslim march on Mecca or anywhere else calling for the end of attacks on civilians in the name of Islam. Instead I see terrorism celebrated.
These acts are committed by a tiny, tiny radical splinter of the Islamic community...just like the Army of God types are in the Christian community. I keep hearing that terrorists acts are committed by a small fraction of the Islamic community, and I agree. Unfortunately, the larger fraction of the Islamic community sits by silently and does virtually nothing but complain about how they are being mistreated (see CAIR). I agree with you that "The Army of God" are a bunch of shitheads, but comparing Muslim terrorists to them would only be valid of The Army of God attacked random civilians by the thousands. While I will never support their actions, and feel they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (and then some), at least their attacks are limited to abortion clinics, not the populace in general.
All terrorists have been muslims? So the Unabomber was Muslim? Timmothy McVeigh is Muslim? THe IRA are all Muslim? Those right wing christian orgs who blow up abortion sites are muslims in disguise? The Shining Path is Muslim? Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber were hardly part of any kind of organization, nor were they able to find a whole lot of people who had the same goals. So, while I will agree that they were terrorists and more or less white people, they since they did not share a common goal, they are separate entities.
The IRA agreed to lay down their weapons years ago. And as a right wing Christian myself, I abhor those that blow up abortion clinics or try to kill abortion doctors. So much so that I would gladly throw my body in the path of a bullet to protect a doctor or a clinic. And yes, I'm pro-life. These people do not represent Christianity and have been so chastised by Christians that they quit (ever hear of Muslims doing that? Me neither)... when was the last time you heard of an abortion clinic blowing up? Then again, it's really a bad comparison anyway. How many people have died total from all abortion clinic bombings vs how many died in any single one of the terror attacks I'm listing next?
Now, consider that all of the 9-11 hijackers were muslim. All of the bombers on 7-11 were muslim. The bus bombers in Britain were Muslim. The Kobar towers, the Cole, Beslan in Russia (fucking school kids for Christ's sake!), embassies in in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania were all done by 100% Muslims. So, while I will agree that not all of the terrorists are Muslim, I think it is close enough to 100%, to say that all terrorists are Muslim! I mean, at some point, you have to go ahead and round up to 100%
And if "they" happens a bunch of random white girls, they'll never even get searched.
LOL!!! If a a bunch of random white girls try to hijack the plane I'm on with a plastic or ceramic knife... well, I've never hit a woman before, but in this case, I'd knock some random white girl's ass out!
I think the days of hijacking planes with hand-held weapons are over. They better blow it up right off or have about 150 screaming airline passengers ready to reinstate The Crusades!
What we need to do is come to the realization that the ONLY way to make technically fragile public transit work is to promote an atmosphere where people do not want to attack us,
instead of attacking why don't you answer the question? I didn't ask the question... I just turned it back on the person who did. But, for the record, yes, I have volunteered to take part in a medical experiment. I was not tortured and I came out of it the same as I went in, except I got lunch out of the deal. So now I can wear leather, eat meat and take medicines that were tested on animals and then people like me.
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I'm going to pay $600 so I can run a second copy of something that's already spinning away on my PC right now?
No, you are going to pay $600 to play games and run Linux on a Cell processor. The F@H thing is just a perk that you can either use to double (or quadruple) what you are doing on your PC right now or not. If you pay $600 for a PS3 just to do F@H, you are an idiot.
The Democrats have done the same kinds of things in the past, but people noticed, and they got angry, and they did somethig about it.
When? Chicago during the Kennedy/Nixon election. Kennedy won by a very small margin... so close that removing a few dead Chicago voters would have made a difference in the election. "The Republican National Committee filed a lawsuit challenging the Chicago results. Not coincidentally, the lawsuit was assigned to the courtroom of a judge known to be friendly to Daley and the Democratic party, Circuit Court Judge Thomas Kluczynski. After predictably dismissing the Republican suit, Kluczynski was rewarded by "President" John F. Kennedy with an appointment to the federal bench." "Following Kennedy's inauguration, the U.S. Department of Justice performed an inconclusive investigation into the accumulated evidence of voter fraud. The head of the DOJ was none other than U.S. Attorney General Bobby Kennedy, brother of you-know-who." (From here... good read, I recommend it!)
In other words, I have to call Bullshit on people's anger stopping the Dem's from cheating. With all the tire slashing that happened during this last election, bums given cigarettes and rides to the polls, the retarted taken to the polls with instructions on who to vote for, and of course, I should not mention how many Bush signs were stolen from my front yard, stickers removed from my bumper, keys removing the paint from my car and flyers claiming that the vote has been moved to Wednesday left under my wipers(!!!). I live in Texas BTW, I can't immagine that shit that must go down in Mass, RI, or Ill! Now I'm not saying that Republicans are 100% innocent, but don't give me that bullshit that the Dems don't cheat any more. I've seen them do it first hand. I have never actually seen a Republican cheat, nor read any sustantial proof. (just read about it here, a trusted news source, no doubt)
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither"
- Ben Franklin
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Thanx, but wouldn't that mean that I am overrated and not necessarily my comment? After all, according to the moderator guidelines, "You are not moderating to make your opinions heard, you are trying to help promote a rational discussion."
I hope your karmy does not suffer too much.
First of all, fuck you for being the 'love it or leave it type'.
Yeah, I deserved that.
You don't like listening to people like him, then you can go to China or anywhere else free speech isn't tolerated. Americans are allowed to hate anything about their country that they choose and are allowed to seek change any legal way they want; including by complain on slashdot.
Which is exactly why the original poster should not be "ashamed to be an American". I tolerate people saying all kinds of bad things about my country and my gov't, some true and some not, but I will not sit by and hear someone claimed to be ashamed of being something they can change. Now if a Cuban were to be ashamed, I'd understand because they are not free to leave, but shame of being an American is not like being ashamed of being white. There are a lot of places where the populace is trapped, but the US is not one of them.
Secondly, the point of the post is that the US and EU are muscling every nation into these kind of copyright regulations. So, leaving it, is becoming increasingly less of an option.
Free to change? I don't know if you've been paying attention, but we're not exactly free to protest and advocate change anymore.
If we are not free to protest, then what have all these large gatherings of people carrying signs and yelling rhyming chants about everything from illegal immigration to 9-11? (Yes, I was threatened with violence by a peace protestor)
My point was that in this free country, there is no reason to be ashamed. Be proud of the fact that you do have rights to orchestrate change and air your grievences, and no one can take that away. If they do, that's why we have the right to bare arms. If you are simply going to bow your head and claim to be ashamed, you have lost the spirit that made this country what it is, and you should go somewhere that will allow you to be proud again.
No. It just disgusts me. I am ashamed to be an American.
I hate to be the "love it or leave it" type, but why would you be ashamed of something you are free to change? I understand China is pretty lax about DRM stuff and Canada is nice this time of year.
As long as the data being collected cannot be reviewed, and its source cannot be determined, it is outside of the very carefully designed restrictions established by our Framers to prevent: bullying, intimidation, bills of attainder, and all of the other tyrranical behavior against which they fought a Revolution.
Agreed! It's the "bullying, intimidation, bills of attainder and all that other tyrranical behavior" that I have a problem with, not the evesdropping. Currently, I don't see any of that happening to citizens of the US. When I do, I'll scream louder than you are!
Then, excuse me, you're a fucking sheep.
So if I don't wear a tinfoil hat, I'm a "fucking sheep"? I assume no more privacy on the phone than I do when talking to my wife in at the local Applebees.
I thought I was talking to a citizen in a free democracy.
You are, and I plan on keeping it that way by fighting against those that would strip my gov't of any power to defend me against those that would gladly kill those that live such a free democracy.
The laws in question allow selective enforcement.
Not necessarily. What we are talking about here is evesdropping, nothing more. Doing something with the data collected is another matter entirely. Personally, I don't see how someone listening in on my conversations overseas as violating any of my rights, since I have no idea it is happening, it really doesn't have any effect on my life whatsoever.
The fact that evidence can be kept under wraps, and people have been held without trial for years and years and years, means that we don't really know what's going on, only that certain people are being pulled into the system and disappeared, and their rights to an open process are denied.
This is not happening to citizens of the US. Even Zac Moussaoui got a fair trial with a jury and everything. So it appears to me that the rights of citizens are fully intact and repression seems to be a myth.
Are you going to wait like Pastor Niemoller, until there is no one left to speak for you?
When I see citizens rounded up and thrown into labor camps or marched to gas chambers, I'll speak up. But to scream repression none exists, block our gov't's ability to gather information to defend the population and to demand rights for foreigners who would gladly die killing as many of us as possible is more of a danger than any present threat to the Constitution. If you strip away the governments ability to defend We The People, there will be no Constitution at all.
A similarly bloated planet has been found before (HD 209458b), so these puffed-up planets may be quite common
Maybe these bloated planets are the only large enough for us to be able to see at this point.
It now belongs to some white-assed neocons, rich of oil without having to do anything for it, now reducing the american people to the satus of 'property' bit by bit.
TOO harsh ?
not one bit of harsher than what neocons did to american people during the last 8 years - sent them to die in distant hells, taken away their almost every right, cut down the social security and used it for means other than where it was intended, hijacked 2 elections, and supressed your voices in wherever can and whenever they can.
I find it ironic that you are complaining that you have lost every right while you criticize the government who you claim is taking those rights. There seems to be a lot of talk about repression around here by those who, evidently, are not very repressed.
The time may come when U.S. citizens envy the "freedom" of the people of China.
When that time comes, I'm sure you will be free to move to China.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You left out the part about conversations shall not be listened to.
30 years without targetting civilians.
Now that is progress. I will let the families of the thousend of dead Iraquis know about your kindness.
I agree that the death of innocents sucks. However, these innocents were not the target, and that is the key. There is a difference between targeting a valid military target that is stationed in a civilian area and intentionally targeting a civilian target with no military value other than terror. A good example would be Iraq during the first gulf war. Iraq sent missiles into civilian areas with no intention of striking a military target, but to try cause as many civilian casualties as possible. Hamas did the same recently. This is different that striking at military target that is in a civilian area, such as when the enemy sets up shop next to an apartment complex or a school. Yes, civilians will probably die, and it is very unfortunate, but they were not the intended target. The only other option would be to not strike at targets where civies may be, at which point the enemy will simply perform all of their operations from civilian populated areas with complete immunity.
Again, the point I was making was that the US (and other civilized countries) does not target civiians, unlike her enemies which wants as many dead as possible.
Finally, you can save your apologies. The US has already sincerely apologized to the casualties' families, which is more than Iraq or Hamas will ever do.
Well, if you want to count military operations- the vast majority of terrorists are white, in an organization called "The United States Armed Forces" with thousands of deaths, tens of thousands of injuries and hundreds of rapes over the past few years. Not counting various kidnappings and tortures.
Oh, I forgot, you're a right wing racist blowhard. Its ok when we do these things. My appologies.
Yes, of course... America is evil. It does not matter that the US military has not targeted civilians since Vietnam. It doesn't matter that the US military prosecutes those found to be even slightly abusive to civilians or terrorists, because people like you lie through your teeth when you claim things like "hundreds of rapes". If you say it enough times, it must be true. Also, I think my black, hispanic and asian friends I know from my years serving in the US military may take offence to being called "white". Why don't you go find a SGT Castillo or SPC Glover and call them "white rapists" and see how they respond.
Oh, I forgot, you are a left wing communist nut-job who calls a white guy with a hispanic wife and daughter a "racist blowhard". Evidently to you, all who disagree with your point of view must be racists, biggots, baby-killers or whatever the bad word of the day is. You can say stuff like that to me because I'll shake it off because I know you are borderline retarted. However, I wouldn't call my baby's daddy a racist because her mother or her aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents will not be so forgiving.
While I agree with much of what you say, I take issue with this statement:
Dubya claiming to be "in communication with God" and then bombing civilians.
Can you tell me where Bush, or any other US President since Nixon intentionally bombed civilians?
I didn't think so.
You can try and be PC all you want, but the fact is that a vast majority of current terrorism somehow involves Muslims. Maybe there's something in their religion which drives them to it.
It's in the Koran.
The vast majority of all terrorist acts (over 80%) are domestic in nature. This is another thing you don't learn if your only source of information is Ann Coulter on FOX, like the poster I was replying to.
Those who spout statements like "all terrorists are Muslim" deserve to get ridiculed by everyone with an elementary school education.
OK, but I think it's safe to say that the VAST MAJORITY of terrorist attacks in the past five years have been committed by Muslims. You are free to go here and see for yourself. (and that source is neither Ann Coulter nor Fox News since you seem to have a bias against both)
So, before you put your elementary school education to good use, you should do a little research.
That's just off the top of my head.
That's just off the top of my head.
Granted, if you go back 30 years, about half of the attacks are by Muslims. So if Islam did not exist, there would have been half the terrorist attacks. Muslims should be so proud! However, that number chages drastically when you look at the past 5 years. Muslims make up the VAST majority of attacks while most of the other groups you mentioned have fallen silent by comparison.
Here are the attacks by Muslims from March of 2001 to Dec 2003 from here:
McVeigh had an accomplice... one as I recall. Hardly an organization.
McVeigh is responsible for the 2nd biggest attack in the US in terms of lives and property destroyed.
No, Japan is 2nd with Pearl Harbor. The British hold the next several slots with attacks during the war of 1812. McVeigh is further down the list. Of course, that's just attacks on US soil. He falls much further when you include civilians all over the world.
Yes, I do. Every time something happens you hear a shitload of Imams coming out and derying it. Try listening to something other than Fox News.
I do, and all I hear is crickets. I do remember Muslims handing out candy on 9-11. I have yet to see the Million Muslim March on Mecca denouncing terrorism.
A few years ago. An abortion doctor was killed abotu 6 months ago.
So if we have on abortion doctor killed every six months, in 1500 years, assuming that there are no more Muslim terrorist attacks by then, I'll put abortion doctor killers in the same league as Al Qaeda.
You're looking at a tiny percentage of all terrorist acts, and claiming that nearly all are done by Muslim. Thats whats known as "cooking the data".
All I've cooked is dinner. Here are some of the attacks by Muslims from 2001 to 2003 from The State Dept. Be sure to read the whole list and tell me that Muslims make up a tiny percentage of terrorist attacks.
The Shining Path killed nearly ten times as many people as al-Qaeda.
Not here they haven't.
And I get so sick of the right wing in this country complaining that Muslims don't condemn terrorism. If you don't hear it, then you're not listening for it.
Oh, I've been listening for it. Lipservice does little to stop radical Muslims. Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Where are the Muslim celebrations when a "big fish" is caught or killed? Those I have not seen. I have seen are Muslims handing out candy in celebration of the 9-11 attacks where 3000 innocent civilians died. I have yet to see a million muslim march on Mecca or anywhere else calling for the end of attacks on civilians in the name of Islam. Instead I see terrorism celebrated.
These acts are committed by a tiny, tiny radical splinter of the Islamic community...just like the Army of God types are in the Christian community.
I keep hearing that terrorists acts are committed by a small fraction of the Islamic community, and I agree. Unfortunately, the larger fraction of the Islamic community sits by silently and does virtually nothing but complain about how they are being mistreated (see CAIR).
I agree with you that "The Army of God" are a bunch of shitheads, but comparing Muslim terrorists to them would only be valid of The Army of God attacked random civilians by the thousands. While I will never support their actions, and feel they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (and then some), at least their attacks are limited to abortion clinics, not the populace in general.
All terrorists have been muslims? So the Unabomber was Muslim? Timmothy McVeigh is Muslim? THe IRA are all Muslim? Those right wing christian orgs who blow up abortion sites are muslims in disguise? The Shining Path is Muslim?
Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber were hardly part of any kind of organization, nor were they able to find a whole lot of people who had the same goals. So, while I will agree that they were terrorists and more or less white people, they since they did not share a common goal, they are separate entities.
The IRA agreed to lay down their weapons years ago. And as a right wing Christian myself, I abhor those that blow up abortion clinics or try to kill abortion doctors. So much so that I would gladly throw my body in the path of a bullet to protect a doctor or a clinic. And yes, I'm pro-life. These people do not represent Christianity and have been so chastised by Christians that they quit (ever hear of Muslims doing that? Me neither)... when was the last time you heard of an abortion clinic blowing up? Then again, it's really a bad comparison anyway. How many people have died total from all abortion clinic bombings vs how many died in any single one of the terror attacks I'm listing next?
Now, consider that all of the 9-11 hijackers were muslim. All of the bombers on 7-11 were muslim. The bus bombers in Britain were Muslim. The Kobar towers, the Cole, Beslan in Russia (fucking school kids for Christ's sake!), embassies in in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania were all done by 100% Muslims. So, while I will agree that not all of the terrorists are Muslim, I think it is close enough to 100%, to say that all terrorists are Muslim! I mean, at some point, you have to go ahead and round up to 100%
And if "they" happens a bunch of random white girls, they'll never even get searched.
LOL!!!
If a a bunch of random white girls try to hijack the plane I'm on with a plastic or ceramic knife... well, I've never hit a woman before, but in this case, I'd knock some random white girl's ass out!
I think the days of hijacking planes with hand-held weapons are over. They better blow it up right off or have about 150 screaming airline passengers ready to reinstate The Crusades!
What we need to do is come to the realization that the ONLY way to make technically fragile public transit work is to promote an atmosphere where people do not want to attack us,
Like the Germans, French and Spanish did. That worked out really well for them, didn't it?
This whole "I'd like to teach the world to sing... in perfect harmony" mentality is the kind of thing that will get us killed.
instead of attacking why don't you answer the question?
I didn't ask the question... I just turned it back on the person who did. But, for the record, yes, I have volunteered to take part in a medical experiment. I was not tortured and I came out of it the same as I went in, except I got lunch out of the deal. So now I can wear leather, eat meat and take medicines that were tested on animals and then people like me.