Doesn't matter what OS you run, if its misconfigured, its not going to be secure. Look here if you think it is 100% secure. I know you were probly making a bit of a joke when you posted, but I still think its worth mentioning that no OS is secure unless you maintain and keep it up to date.
Sounds sorta like I had... But ours came about differently. It was like:
"I'm getting dsl!"
"I want it too"
"But your 2 apartments away!"
"So?"
*after some cat5 draping across the roofs....*
"Hey, I want some too!"
"But your 3 apartments away!"
"So?" ...etc...
Eventually half my building is off my dsl line. 15 computers, split the bill, $3/month each. Oh yeah, and free for me, since I ran the OpenBSD firewall NAT box:)
we are not denying slashdot redirects. The problem is soo many people hitting it at once. i.e. the slashdot effect. The slashdot effect is not one continuos stream of requests, but waves. So sometimes you can get a reply. But we aren't blocking requests from slashdot. That would be stupid
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Its not the times that matter, but the comment number. The comment number is 86 is both of the posts, the times differ depending on what time zone you have slashdot to show.
I'm just sick of never having anything of our own that is so great that Win/Mac users can't wait for a port so they can get in on the action.
What about Apache? Perl? Extremely customizable desktops? I'm sure there are many others but I can't think of any right now. Maybe even include Slashdot in that list. I don't know of any other similar phenomenons for the win/mac communities. Anyhow, I think that we have many things of our own that win/mac users would love to have.
Not to be nitpicky, but I think soon is really similar to quick, so "good, quick, cheap, choose two" is about the same as saying "Good, quick, cheap, soon, choose three". The soon is redundant.
It is criminal how stupid they've made, oh, say, 8-10 million human beings.
I don't know if you meant what it seems like but I don't think stupid is the right word to describe the people who use AOL. Sure they may not know as much as the average computer geek about computers, but they don't have to! Not everyone needs to be completely internet saavy. Some people don't want to know their computers any more than to get them to do what they want. AOL helps people do that. A post higher up explains this perfectly.
Just because someone doesn't know computers especially well does not mean they are stupid. I work in the IT department here at UC Davis at tech support and some _very_ smart people come in for help. They are not dumb. They just don't want to know everything about computers just to send email. They just want it to work.
I personally love dselect. It's text-oriented so I don't have to worry about having X installed if I want to install X (which I had happen with RedHat once) and although it's a little clunky, it's not all that that hard to use.
I assume your talking about the graphic RedHat package manager. There is a text version (named rpm.. go figure!), so to install X all you should have to do is 'rpm -i X-etc.etc.etc.rpm' and its in, you don't need X to install anything with rpm.
Well, first of all, I would not accept that it's a parent's right to deny online access to their children, for any reason...
Just as a parent has no right to tell their children they can't read, a parent has no right to tell their children they can't access the internet.
I personally don't think a fundamentalist Baptist parent has the right to tell their children they're not allowed to read about evolution, or that a communist parent has the right to tell their children they're not allowed to read George Orwell
Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit. Whether it agree's with your ideals and philosophy's or not. Whether or not a Baptist family chooses to teach evolution is up to them, not to the masses. I agree with you, it is bad parenting (in some people's eyes) yet to someone else it might be good parenting. The whole debate over parenting is all opinion. What one parent says is good for a kid is what another parent says is bad for a kid. Its their opinion, its their right to have that opinion, and its their right to exercise that opinion as long as the child is under their legal care ( up to 18 years old). You have the right to disagree with them, but not to dictate how they raise their child.
On another note: I personally agree with what you expressed on how kids should be able to do read and experience what they like, its how I was raised and I think I turned out OK. The one thing that had the biggest effect on my life was that my parents valued my opinion, and they let me express that. They also let me know what they thought of it, and only intervened when my heath or wellbeing was at stake. That is how I think that kids should be raised.
Adults are responsible for their own children, if only to impose their values. Its their job to see the child grows up as they see fit, no matter what their views
You are right (if I looked this over correctly) about how 3v = 3F. But what you are measuring when the lander crashes into the soil is Kinetic Energy. which is given by the equation above and is proportional to the velocity squared.
Now that I think about it, I can't see the main problem with your reasoning, but I know the other guy was referring to kinetic energy. I think you may be right about the force... Augghhh! Now you got me thinking! I should know this! I'm in college physics for christ's sake! Anyway...
But I still think we'll have a base on Mars before we see workable fusion.
I think we'll need fusion before we see a base on mars. How else would they get all the power? AFAIK mars has quite a few clouds and storms regularly, so that would rule out solar as a sole source of power, shuttling batteries back and forth would be too cumbersome and a waste of power, and I doubt the existance of a good place for a hydro-electric power plant on mars.
Lowered functionality: Because the system requires you to buy everything many programs try to do everything at once and not a little at a time the way linux/solaris/BSD/even pure dos used to do. A 386 with linux on it can often do taks more efficiently than a PII 400MHz NT4.0 machine can.
That all depends on what you have the two boxes set up to run. I guarantee that the 386/Linux will run slower than the PII400/NT with default installs. What I assume you mean is after each system is optimized the 386 will outperform the NT, I lean towards this a little more, but I still consider this a bit of a stretch. NT _is_ bloated, but its not _that_ bloated.
For the record I am a dedicated Linux user. I guess my POV could be summed up by another slashdot poster: Linux advocate. NOT Linux zealot
A voice of reason in this chaos! I agree with you 100% (cept for that 100% reliable stuff:) The way you set it up is exactly how me and my fam set up a win98 box for my grandparents. Quick, ez, painless. They love it now. Play lots of games etc. Works good, no command line, Not even kernel messages during boot to confuse them! (cause you know it would!)
But what is congress going to be able to do to counteract spam? Put penalties on the ISP's that allow it? Right. I know of no ISP's that aren't very quick to disable accounts from which spamming originates or at least try and find the perpetrators.
But that seems rather tough, because AFAIK spamming is just a subset of forged emails. So it would take some work to find who it really originated from...
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. Not because I like Linux much better (though I'm sure that was a part of it), but because I was genuinly(sp?) curious. I bet they're servers are NT too, huh? It just seems to me that.gov's would trust proprietary software more.
Also, whats the difference in the ability of NT and Linux in handling mass email etc. (probly unnoticable?).
Remember that at least he had the guts to try and install linux. Most just dismiss it as "geek only" and are done with it. Granted there were a *few* mistakes in his article, but he isn't a computer genious. And most of his install problems could have been subverted with a knowledgable friend poking their head over the cubicle wall, but hey, the best way to learn is by doing.
It seems to me that you posted your "problem" here originally, and to expect anyone to not reply to it is absurd.
People just get way too worked up about petty shit.
Wow. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth. This guy tries to help you out--Not even in a rude or forceful way (He did write "Maybe you should consider...", not "Macs suck. Use a PC.") and you go off on him for it.
You sit there flaming the slashdot crowd and Linux users in general ("Instead of actually voicing complaints directly to the company (if they really did care) they spew about how evil the company is on a messageboard for a website that is more geared towards Linux users anyway") talking about how they overreact--and I do agree they overreact manytimes--but you are just contributing by posting responses like these.
As much as everyone here is screaming about how they don't want to give the gov't that much power and that its an invasion of privacy, don't forget:
THEY'LL DO IT IF THEY WANT TO ANYWAY!!
If they really want to find out something about you and no judge will give them a warrent, they'll just go into your computer anyway, find out what they want, get enough evidence to get a warrant, then go back in *legally* and haul you off (IF you have anything they want, and sometimes even if you don't!).
So I think anything that does at least a little towards regulating this is good in my book, I'll just start beefin' up the security here at home a little more...
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Doesn't matter what OS you run, if its misconfigured, its not going to be secure. Look here if you think it is 100% secure. I know you were probly making a bit of a joke when you posted, but I still think its worth mentioning that no OS is secure unless you maintain and keep it up to date.
Sounds sorta like I had... But ours came about differently. It was like:
...etc... :)
"I'm getting dsl!"
"I want it too"
"But your 2 apartments away!"
"So?"
*after some cat5 draping across the roofs....* "Hey, I want some too!"
"But your 3 apartments away!"
"So?"
Eventually half my building is off my dsl line. 15 computers, split the bill, $3/month each. Oh yeah, and free for me, since I ran the OpenBSD firewall NAT box
we are not denying slashdot redirects. The problem is soo many people hitting it at once. i.e. the slashdot effect. The slashdot effect is not one continuos stream of requests, but waves. So sometimes you can get a reply. But we aren't blocking requests from slashdot. That would be stupid
yes
That is what you posted, look at the times!
Its not the times that matter, but the comment number. The comment number is 86 is both of the posts, the times differ depending on what time zone you have slashdot to show.
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I'm just sick of never having anything of our own that is so great that Win/Mac users can't wait for a port so they can get in on the action.
What about Apache? Perl? Extremely customizable desktops? I'm sure there are many others but I can't think of any right now. Maybe even include Slashdot in that list. I don't know of any other similar phenomenons for the win/mac communities.
Anyhow, I think that we have many things of our own that win/mac users would love to have.
Good... quick... cheap... soon...
:)
Not to be nitpicky, but I think soon is really similar to quick, so "good, quick, cheap, choose two" is about the same as saying "Good, quick, cheap, soon, choose three". The soon is redundant.
Just thought I would be picky today
It is criminal how stupid they've made, oh, say, 8-10 million human beings.
I don't know if you meant what it seems like but I don't think stupid is the right word to describe the people who use AOL. Sure they may not know as much as the average computer geek about computers, but they don't have to! Not everyone needs to be completely internet saavy. Some people don't want to know their computers any more than to get them to do what they want. AOL helps people do that. A post higher up explains this perfectly.
Just because someone doesn't know computers especially well does not mean they are stupid. I work in the IT department here at UC Davis at tech support and some _very_ smart people come in for help. They are not dumb. They just don't want to know everything about computers just to send email. They just want it to work.
Thats my opinion.
I personally love dselect. It's text-oriented so I don't have to worry about having X installed if I want to install X (which I had happen with RedHat once) and although it's a little clunky, it's not all that that hard to use.
I assume your talking about the graphic RedHat package manager. There is a text version (named rpm.. go figure!), so to install X all you should have to do is 'rpm -i X-etc.etc.etc.rpm' and its in, you don't need X to install anything with rpm.
Well, first of all, I would not accept that it's a parent's right to deny online access to their children, for any reason...
Just as a parent has no right to tell their children they can't read, a parent has no right to tell their children they can't access the internet.
I personally don't think a fundamentalist Baptist parent has the right to tell their children they're not allowed to read about evolution, or that a communist parent has the right to tell their children they're not allowed to read George Orwell
Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit. Whether it agree's with your ideals and philosophy's or not. Whether or not a Baptist family chooses to teach evolution is up to them, not to the masses. I agree with you, it is bad parenting (in some people's eyes) yet to someone else it might be good parenting.
The whole debate over parenting is all opinion. What one parent says is good for a kid is what another parent says is bad for a kid. Its their opinion, its their right to have that opinion, and its their right to exercise that opinion as long as the child is under their legal care ( up to 18 years old).
You have the right to disagree with them, but not to dictate how they raise their child.
On another note: I personally agree with what you expressed on how kids should be able to do read and experience what they like, its how I was raised and I think I turned out OK. The one thing that had the biggest effect on my life was that my parents valued my opinion, and they let me express that. They also let me know what they thought of it, and only intervened when my heath or wellbeing was at stake. That is how I think that kids should be raised.
Adults are responsible for their own children, if only to impose their values. Its their job to see the child grows up as they see fit, no matter what their views
Anyway thats what I think. thanx for reading.
KE = (0.5)m(v^2)
You are right (if I looked this over correctly) about how 3v = 3F. But what you are measuring when the lander crashes into the soil is Kinetic Energy. which is given by the equation above and is proportional to the velocity squared.
Now that I think about it, I can't see the main problem with your reasoning, but I know the other guy was referring to kinetic energy. I think you may be right about the force...
Augghhh! Now you got me thinking! I should know this! I'm in college physics for christ's sake! Anyway...
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But I still think we'll have a base on Mars before we see workable fusion.
I think we'll need fusion before we see a base on mars. How else would they get all the power? AFAIK mars has quite a few clouds and storms regularly, so that would rule out solar as a sole source of power, shuttling batteries back and forth would be too cumbersome and a waste of power, and I doubt the existance of a good place for a hydro-electric power plant on mars.
Lowered functionality: Because the system requires you to buy everything many programs try to do everything at once and not a little at a time the way linux/solaris/BSD/even pure dos used to do. A 386 with linux on it can often do taks more efficiently than a PII 400MHz NT4.0 machine can.
That all depends on what you have the two boxes set up to run. I guarantee that the 386/Linux will run slower than the PII400/NT with default installs. What I assume you mean is after each system is optimized the 386 will outperform the NT, I lean towards this a little more, but I still consider this a bit of a stretch. NT _is_ bloated, but its not _that_ bloated.
For the record I am a dedicated Linux user. I guess my POV could be summed up by another slashdot poster:
Linux advocate. NOT Linux zealot
A voice of reason in this chaos! I agree with you 100% (cept for that 100% reliable stuff :) The way you set it up is exactly how me and my fam set up a win98 box for my grandparents. Quick, ez, painless. They love it now. Play lots of games etc.
Works good, no command line, Not even kernel messages during boot to confuse them! (cause you know it would!)
>Programming is about mastering the only real tool you have: your mind.
Beautifully said. But I think that it can be extended to cover college and universities in general. Sort of as a euphomism for life. Maybe:
Wisdom is about mastering the only real tool you have: Your Mind.
But what is congress going to be able to do to counteract spam? Put penalties on the ISP's that allow it? Right. I know of no ISP's that aren't very quick to disable accounts from which spamming originates or at least try and find the perpetrators.
But that seems rather tough, because AFAIK spamming is just a subset of forged emails. So it would take some work to find who it really originated from...
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. Not because I like Linux much better (though I'm sure that was a part of it), but because I was genuinly(sp?) curious. I bet they're servers are NT too, huh? It just seems to me that .gov's would trust proprietary software more.
Also, whats the difference in the ability of NT and Linux in handling mass email etc. (probly unnoticable?).
Remember that at least he had the guts to try and install linux. Most just dismiss it as "geek only" and are done with it. Granted there were a *few* mistakes in his article, but he isn't a computer genious. And most of his install problems could have been subverted with a knowledgable friend poking their head over the cubicle wall, but hey, the best way to learn is by doing.
Maybe you should just worry about yourself. okay?
It seems to me that you posted your "problem" here originally, and to expect anyone to not reply to it is absurd.
People just get way too worked up about petty shit.
Wow. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth. This guy tries to help you out--Not even in a rude or forceful way (He did write "Maybe you should consider...", not "Macs suck. Use a PC.") and you go off on him for it.
You sit there flaming the slashdot crowd and Linux users in general ("Instead of actually voicing complaints directly to the company (if they really did care) they spew about how evil the company is on a messageboard for a website that is more geared towards Linux users anyway") talking about how they overreact--and I do agree they overreact manytimes--but you are just contributing by posting responses like these.
Because thats the only way I could get my new box up and running with X support.
I had to download XSVGA.tgz and copy it into the right dir, and now my Roadster 3D card works!! woo hoo!!
As much as everyone here is screaming about how they don't want to give the gov't that much power and that its an invasion of privacy, don't forget:
THEY'LL DO IT IF THEY WANT TO ANYWAY!!
If they really want to find out something about you and no judge will give them a warrent, they'll just go into your computer anyway, find out what they want, get enough evidence to get a warrant, then go back in *legally* and haul you off (IF you have anything they want, and sometimes even if you don't!).
So I think anything that does at least a little towards regulating this is good in my book, I'll just start beefin' up the security here at home a little more...
--Hurst Dawg