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Three Axis Promises Nanosaur For Linux
lvillalt writes: "Three Axis Interactive is porting Nanosaur (a 3D Mac game) to Linux, using the Quesa 3D graphics library." Nanosaur seems like one of the best reasons to buy a Macintosh -- smooth action, good controls, nice textures, and action suitable even for small kids. But if you can put Nanosaur and a close-enough-to-Aqua theme on a Linux box, the premium for The Real Thing suddenly looks a little steeper. However, no release date yet.
What did you wipe it with? What color was the shit-streak? Did it feel good?
thank you
dmg
Thank goodness you are not indicitave of the majority of the Slashdot/Linux community. Otherwise I'd say nuke 'em all! They're a bunch of elitist pricks!
What an idiotic thing to say! Have you ever even been in a dickwaving contest? You can stand there using buzzwords, pal, but it's not gonna make your dick wave.
Well if it is already, or will be ported to Linux by threeaxis, then Pangea could probably lower the restriction for Linux, because "damage" is already done, so there is no point in don't port restriction anymore...
...can I put Windows on it?
how about a project to port commander keen ?
Hemos is sticking them up his ass as we speak.
Nanosaur SUCKS!
Really. I remember when I was in like 7th grade, thumbing through some magazine when I came across an ad for a Coleco ADAM..I damn near split my gut laughing because they were making it look like the only reason to own one of those sad hunks of shit was to play some lameass Flash Gordon game. Just profoundly retarded.
"News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters"...ahh, the good ol' days.
Timothy(god damn, I don't think I've ever seen this guy post before)- how could you, or anyone, like nanosaur? It sucks! I can't think of a single thing that makes that game worth space on my hard drive, and judging from a quick skimming-over of the comments, neither do many of the other readers. Why port an app to Linux that no one cares about? What's next, a port of windows solitaire? Oy vey.
GNU/Linux doesn't need more proprietary software. Every few days I hear of a new software program for Linux on Slashdot (has /. become freshmeat?), most of which are proprietary. Take your proprietary nanosaur and yer Parsec and yer star office and yer loki what ever the hell an shove them up your ass.
"Even Bill Gates started out that way." That's not saying much, fuckwad. No one here looks up to Gates like you do. Get over it. Go to hell.
"These people want to find that same desire in their new vice Linux." Linux is not a vice, and it's not new. Just because you got into it fairly recently, that doesn't make it new. Its roots go back to the early nineties, when you were probably in preschool. The POSIX specification, upon which Linux was originally written, is based on real UNIX, which came about in the very late sixties / early seventies, when you were just a tiny gleam in your stoner parents' eyes.
"That way they can regain their childhood ideals." HAHAHAHA! You really ARE a loser.
"That is why they get so geeked out when any game news what so ever is posted. " You don't know anything about Slashdot, and so you don't get it yet. You sound sort of slow, so maybe you never will. But we'll see. Look: News about Quake 3, a very popular game, being released on Linux, the most popular OS on Slashdot, is relevant gaming news. An obscure Macintosh DEMO being ported to Linux is nothing worthy of the main page. God, what a retard you are...
"I am still a child (legally at least)" Yes, as well as mentally, and probably physically, as well. Have those pubes started coming in yet, tiger?
"That is why it is news here." As an obvious and self-admitted newbie, you are in NO FUCKING POSITION to tell people what is valid news here.
I know that you want to be a l337 hax0r and impress people by sounding smart, but it's so glaringly, laughably obvious that you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about, that I suggest that you cool out and just try reading for a while. Don't post again until you have at least .005% of a clue. Go play around on your Red Hat 6.1 Woskstation prevert installation and pretend you're cool. (Ha, how did I know about your installation? Am I an 3r337 hax0r with m4d ski11z? well, yes, but i didn't need to do more than read your mindless newbie drivel bullshite to tell. YOU SUCK. GO AWAY. SLASHDOT HATES YOU.) I'll bet you think that you're really "geeked out" (to use your own eloquent expression) 'cause you can use Netscape under GNOME!!
You're stupid and no one likes you. You'll probably end up being one of those Columbine kids. Does your daddy have a gun? Well, I'm going to tell you who to kill first -- yourself. Just don't get blood or brains on your computer, because your parents can sell it to a REAL geek, and use the money to adopt another howler monkey. Am I implying that you're a howler monkey? No, you're a red-assed baboon. A stupid
DROP THE TUDE! STOP TRYING TO SOUND SMART! NO ONE BUYS IT! YOU SUCK! YOU SUCK COCK! YOU ARE A LOOOOOOOOOSER! GO TO HELL AND DIE!
Oh, and stop crying. You'll never be a l337 hax0r if you cry like that.
plonk.
You worked at CompUSA and you can't spell? Well, there certainly can't be a connection!
and I have never heard of this game. The graphics are not very impressive. While porting to linux is sort of nice, are we going to hear every time an unknown app is ported?
Somebody earlier today said that at this point slashdot would probably be better if it just posted press releases, and that really seems to be what's happening. the "[program] ported to linux!" was cool before things were all being ported to linux. If this was "Office ported to linux!" or "Photoshop ported to linux!" it would be something else entirely. Hell, even "Diablo 2 for linux!" would almost be newsworthy. But "Software product #21-201 ported to linux" is not interesting.
TO ANY SLASHDOT EDITOR READING THIS: please make a new topic section for Linux kernel announcements so that people who don't care can filter them out. In the same vein, "x ported to linux!" should go in its own category.
In other news, Linux now supports 2 TERABYTES of memory: http://www.suse.de/en/new s/PressReleases/Terabyte_en.html, courtesy kuro5hin's submission queue.
Well, yes. We do.
Well Certainly.
X is more flexible and more modular.
This recycled bit of NeXT technology is not the great leap you make it out to be and will likely go unnoticed by most users not interested in maximizing the number of buzzwords that they can use in a dickwaving contest.
As far as the desktop goes, the lack of a need for fascist user interface conformance or other things that cause lack of diversity as a side effect are actually a benefit for Linux.
We can take those aspects of other systems we like best and ignore the rest. We don't necessarily have to take the bad with the good. Plus, whatever remains will far more likely do so out of merit, not merely because it's what a particular vendor shoves down our throats.
BTW, that same recycled NeXT technology you're harping about is being recycled by the FSF as well...
Bahaha.. Finally! I actually have a _chance_ of getting something tangible back for busting my ass as a volunteer for a year and a half!
This is very important so all you people here need to do what I tell you to do. You need to go to kuro5hin.org and put all your gay ass spam, trolls, and cluelessness there. Thank You.
You, sir, are an idiot. You couldn't even get the url right!
I guess since Slashdot is now posting only extremely important articles such as this lamefuck mac game "nanosaur", I thought I might add to this occasion let everyone know that I wiped my ass today.
(oops, shouldn't talk to myself...)
Will a God-fearing, red-blooded American please moderate me back up?
I have to post AC because Tacofool and his shitty Slash code disabled my fucking account. Hey, Emmett! Reopen my account!
This is some bullshit. I'm going to summon the demons of hell to troll ALL your dumb asses.
Just watch out on Troll Day (Tuesday). Jesus will have his vengeance.
- Jesus Christ (#154953)
I am the Lord.
God Hates Moderators.
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ass pancake! go back to aol!
check out mac-on-linux.
Sorry I mistyped 0 is close to o and they look similar too. The name is just a really crappy one. It should have been kuroshin.org, a little easier to type.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/
Actually looks like it could be an interesting site.
- Jesus Christ
(#154953, account temporarily disabled for being moderated down)
I am the Lord.
God Hates Moderators.
Heh. For once, I can see the ninja guy's point. Slashdot is decaying..All the posts nowadays are so ripe with cluelessness that its really becoming tiresome.
Well, for the sake of ignoring this article, and talking about something truly interesting, lets have a look at this:
I propose we establish a standard unit of measurement for cluelessness. We will measure it in units of Gore. I think Al Gore's as good a benchmark as any..Alan Cox is, lets say, 0 Gore. He knows all. Whoever thought this original article deserved to be issued to upwards of a million readers weighs in at, say, 1.0x10^23 Gore.
All those in favor say "I".
Bowie J. Poag
Project Founder, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://propaganda.themes.org)
Bowie J. Poag
WHY CANT THEY PORT TH1S 3-D STUFF 2 THE VIC-20?
I DONT WANT MACK1NTRASH OR MANEFRA1M GAMEZ THEY ARENT C00L WAREZ!
DOESNT ANYONE R1TE C00L VIC-20 GAMEZ ANYMORE??
I LEFT MY CELL FONE IN PRISON! KAN U HELP???
To quote Anthrax, "The Devil lives in California".
Californians are evil hypocrites. There are three major populations in California: Homosexuals ("Gays"), Vegans, and Mexicans. Let's discuss each one, and how they contribute to the hypocrisy that is "California".
Homosexuals love California. Hell, it's got "fornicate" right in the name! Well, sort of. Anyway, Californians battle for gay rights, which pretty much means the right to bugger your fellow man, then stick your tongue up his ass and lick out the semen.
Vegans are yuppies that wish they were hippies that wish they had jobs. They fight to keep animals (which eat other animals) from being eaten by an animal, called the human being.
Mexicans come from Mexico, a heathen nation to our south. They are part of a communist plot to take jobs away from good heterosexual, meat-eating Americans.
Now let's talk about the hypocrisy. Vegans are allied with the Gays. Vegans say that people shouldn't eat meat, but also say that Gays should be able to stick their meat wherever they like. Ahem. Gays eat meat on a regular basis, but there are Vegan Gays! It starts to get confusing. It's the hypocrisy, stupid.
I'm not sure where the Mexicans fit in exactly, but I do know that Gay Mexicans fit into each other quite nicely.
When I am elected President, I will hit the Calfornia state line with enough nukes so that the wasteland of Gay Vegan Mexicans breaks off and floats out into the Pacific. We will tow Hawaii over and staple it in California's place. Don't worry, folks; although similar in appearance to a Mexican, the Hawaiian is actually a cross-breed Asian, guaranteed to fuel America's much needed Technical and Convenience Store industries! And as demonstrated by the tradtional "luau", Hawaiians love to eat meat. So it all works out in the end!
Thanks for your time.
God Bless,
Al Gore
Inventor of the Internet
God Bless,
Al Gore
Inventor of the Internet
Father of our Country
I am the Lord.
I am the Lord.
God Hates Moderators.
VA rules. Don't you dis them!!! Without them we would all be living in gutters in indonesia!! You don't want that do yoU??
MEEP.
| Software will need to make 3 different versions
| of the same game to satisfy all their customers.
It shouldn't have to be that way. That's what standards are for (e.g. ISO/ANSI C, which does a fair job of making text based programs portable). Hopefully the need will advance the adoption/development of the relevant standards, and the computer industry will be all the better for it.
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James Gasson
As to the speed of Quesa (or QD3D): it's a high level toolkit, which sits on top of lower-level APIs like OpenGL. The OpenGL layer is where you spend 80%+ of your time on any given frame, so the overhead of using Quesa is pretty small.
-dair (project lead for Quesa)
If everyone did set their level to 2 how do you suppose that new messages would ever get moderated to a higher level? You will not see level 0 and 1 messages so nobody will moderate them up.
When you get moderator points, the system advises you to set your browse level down to -1, to catch abuses.
I normally browse at 2, with high scores first, but when I have moderator points, I browse at -1, with new messages first.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
I'm totally addicted to this game on the Mac test machine at work. My best score so far is around 514,000. Yes, I've solved it many times, and have resorted to playing 'Nanosaur Extreme', the version with 5 times dinos roaming around (and 5x the weapon powerups).
The above poster is correct - they DO need to add more to the game, or release the game level editor at the same time - I'd love to be able to make my own levels for the game.
I was rather hoping they could improve the graphics, though - I don't know what the above person is smoking - the engine on it blows, but the game itself is very fun and addictive, so much so that the bad engine & graphics don't much matter.
From Webster's
sac (noun):
"a pouch within an animal or plant often containing a fluid
(generally or often considered vulgar)"
As an Anonymous Coward, I didn't expect you to know this.
Grow some balls, then try another rebuttal.
Wow, I'm really gonna take an insult from an anonymous coward.
Lick on my nutsac.
Well, you're right, I didnt put too much time into it. I can see how, technical merit aside, a simple premise can be fun or addictive (ex: the whole windows/solitaire thing.)
I was less then underwhelmed with nanosaur, but I wish it luck.
I worked at CompUSA a while ago, and in spare time we'd play around with various pre-installed games. Believe me when I say Nanosaur is NOT cool. The graphics are primative even by Quake I standards, the controls are tricky, and the game is little more then shooting missles at the same 2 dinosaur types over and over....
Now, I'm happy that another company is interested in Linux gaming, and if a demo is made available I'll probably try it out,
but don't get your hopes too far up.
"YOU CANNOT...
...port any of this code in any quantity, shape or form to Windows/PC. Nanosaur and the code are happily Mac-only and we want to keep it that way."
[...]
4.
With an attitude like that, I sure as hell won't be checking the game out.
Sure you don't want to be in the next story about heavy rockets? This one is for Mac-bashing, I mean discussion of Naunosar's linux port......
Go buy one. Putting up a flashy desktop theme and a few games isnt going to give you the same experience as a real Mac will. Cheaper yes, but hardly the real thing. Fvwm95 gives you a start menu and task bar, but no one will tell you that by using it you will get the same results as running win95. Themes only go so far. I think that overselling the free unicies abilities to mimic other interfaces wont help them much.
Of course, whether Linux is better than the real thing or not is another question which should be left to the individual.
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If everyone did set their level to 2 how do you suppose that new messages would ever get moderated to a higher level? You will not see level 0 and 1 messages so nobody will moderate them up.
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I own a Mac and my new one came with nanosaur on the restore disk, though not the system CD. Anyway, I installed it, played it, and trashed it before I ever got past three eggs (a refrence to the game, if you've played it). Anyway, the game has poor masking, polygons with many large, flat surfaces, and strange controls. The map is confusing, too, since the whole game is a 20 minute romp around this one giant map to collect some eggs. That's it! One level! After just a few minutes of play, I could see why the folks at Pangea were giving it away. I usually like their games, but this one is rediculious!
-- Gordon Worley
I do have my "page of ancient QD3D stuff" which has some of the demo apps from the "QuickDraw 3D - The Glitz, The Glamor, The 1.0 Demos" CD, along with partial gerbals source which was in a development kit a while back. This page can be found at inio's page of ancient QuickDraw 3D stuff.
I definitely agree that Bugdom is more entertaining. It would be nice to see that ported to Linux. More commercial childrens games can never hurt.
But if you can put Nanosaur and a close-enough-to-Aqua theme on a Linux box, the premium for The Real Thing suddenly looks a little steeper.
"Close-enough-to-Aqua"? Aqua is a lot more than those pretty gumdrop buttons and translucent windows...it's a vector-based UI system based on PDF technology that no Elightenment theme can simply emulate. Yeah, your knockoff themes might *look* similar to Aqua on the surface, but the powerful capabilities that make Aqua so amazing aren't skin deep...and of course, an Aqua window theme doesn't give you the Cocoa support OS X has. That's right people, there's a lot more to OS X than the gumdrop buttons.
i've played nanosaur, and i'll admit it can be entertaining, but, in the grand scheme of things, is it really that worthwhile/fun a game? Then again, numerous games have that effect on people; it depends upon the person.
Therefore, my official idea is, "yeah, this is a good thing."
More software for linux always seems like a good idea to me (unless you want to get technical and talk about viruses, etc........)
Insert mind here.
The web site states:
The BA-2 has a restarting third stage, which enables multiplt satellite deployments, Hohmann transfer orbit injections, and GTO targeted Earth-escape missions. (their spelling)
So I guess they lauch several sattelites at once, drop one off, move to a different orbit, drop a few more off, etc.
I wonder if you put an androgynous docking unit on one of these if it would be good for lifting space stations into higher orbit? Or if you docked two of them together, nose to nose, and went twice as far... (for that telescope on the L3 (?) Lagrange point on the far side of the moon (yea I know it's not stable...)
Nanosaur is a cheesy 3D game that comes in dozen packs for free. That's about as close to being the primary reason for buying a mac as Notepad being the primary reason to buy a Windows PC.
For the love of pete guys, post some real news...
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"Cogito Eggo Sum: I think, therefore, waffle."
: Apache?
/. last week. Mac will have this when OS X is out this summer.
I don't know about the microdrones, but Mac OS X Server comes with Apache, and some nice GUI configuration tools. Tho you can still configure it the old fashioned way too.
: Perl?
I've got Perl on my Linux box and MacPerl on the Mac. MacPerl adds some MacOS specific functionality BC of the lack of a accessable CLI, but by the large, they're the same. Regular Perl will run on OS X client/server as well.
I don't KNOW what the collective has in the way of scripting languages, but I THINK that they have a port of Perl too.
: Extremely customizable desktops?
Have you read the latesr Ars Technica article about DP3 of OS X? It was featured on
Tho, yeah, the minions of bill are getting left in the dust here.
Overall, I think that a GOOD product/feature WILL crossover eventually. And usually, only the crap gets left on a single platform (unless the developer collects his 30 peices of silver from gates to keep it propietary).
After all, no one *I* know in either the Linux OR Mac community has shed a single tear that Battlecruiser 3000AD never got ported from windoze.
And do we really want AOL assimilating Linux?
MS Word macro viruses spreading on our boxen?
Get the good stuff, who gives a fsck about the crap.
john
Imagine all the people...
http://www.briangreenstone.com/files/tools/nanosau r_source.sit
IK system in the code is good starting point for ideas, so is the Texture Handling.
I'm just sick of never having anything of our own that is so great that Win/Mac users can't wait for a port so they can get in on the action.
What about Apache? Perl? Extremely customizable desktops? I'm sure there are many others but I can't think of any right now. Maybe even include Slashdot in that list. I don't know of any other similar phenomenons for the win/mac communities.
Anyhow, I think that we have many things of our own that win/mac users would love to have.
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Nanosaur is just a goofy demo game really. Not a reason to buy a computer.
May i ask what the fuck crawled up your ass and died? Jeeeze man, calm the fuck down. He maybe a newby but you were one too, or were you born a beligerant asshole?
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Can I Play With Madness?
Wow. I was expecting to just get flamed for that post. My main reason for making that post was the senseless mac bashing, and the fact that many things that are newsworthy don't get on slashdot anymore; they are however replaced by a *demo* game being ported to linux. Many times my room mate and I have posted news stories relating to new medicines or research that is going on only to have the story rejected. Guess this one just rubbed me a little wrong but /. used to be my one stop news source for everything technical or nerdy that I wouldn't find on cnn or some other news source. Now most of the news posted is fodder like this. I get the feeling the guys behind /. don't care anymore, and why should they, they get paid either way.
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Can I Play With Madness?
Can some one please explain to me why Nanosaur, a demo game, being ported to linux, can be news. Hmm.. and yes its the only reason to buy a mac? I guess the fact that it is still one of the premier desktop publishing and graphics arts workstation. Guess Nanosaur is realy that selling point.
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Can I Play With Madness?
I'd second this one! I loved the original gerbils demo, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever when it first appeared. True 3D! Wow... the awe... Although I haven't played Nanosaur for more than a couple of moments on demo machines, I spent hours watching that stupid little gerbils demo :) A gerbil roller coaster! How cool is that? Now if someone got a hold of it and used Tux models instead of gerbils it'd be a fantastic demo for to show off some of Linux's fun side :)
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
1) Any roguelike. Angband seems to be my favorite
Amen, comrade. I firmly believe in NetHack's superiority, though. I love the game, and at the same time hate it because I can spend two hours playing and not notice the passage of time! It's so bloody addictive!
Behold, from the nethack site:
quote {
"Thank you for the latest release of gradewrecker. My GPA just went in the corner and shot itself."
-- USENET posting, author unknown
}
-Ravagin
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is NPR! And that means....it's time for a drum solo!"
Karma: T-rexcellent.
> I'm grateful for what we've been given so far, but it's time to innovate.
Actually, I think Linux (and *BSD) have quite a number of innovative programs. Just look at Freshmeat or SourceForge; there's tons of stuff there.
I believe part of the problem is that there are so many half-finished innovations and programs. Not to say half-finished projects are bad, I'm just saying that since they are not 'complete', people may ignore them as opposed to a program advertised as 'release quality'. That, and the sheer number of projects, keeps them from being recognized anywhere else than a small circle of developers and users.
Also, many programs are developed to scratch an itch on a *nix-like system, and are not really applicable to DOS/Windows/MacOS. Case in point: this morning I got an e-mail from a guy wondering if psdoom would be ported to DOS. I told him that DOS had no concept of processes, so it couldn't be done. But this does show that (at least in this one case) there is interest in porting OSS programs and innovations to traditionally closed-source platforms.
I've played Nanosaur. Quite a bit, actually. It came bundled on the Macintosh G3 I bought to run the One True OS on. It's beautiful -- or it was at the time, over a year ago. Expectations in computer graphics, of course, follow Moore's Law as well. But it runs very smoothly even on lower-end 3d hardware.
But the game gets old fast. There's really not much to do besides run around enjoying the scenery, and killing the odd dinosaur with rocket launchers. Hopefully they'll add some more plot and strategy to the game -- because it really is a great underlying engine. Or maybe if it's open source, it could become the base for something Very Cool.
Oh, by the way! When it's available, try climbing up onto the tall dormant volcano near the beginning and jumping off. If you time it right and get to the maximum possible height, well, you'll get a neat reward. Hee hee. Maybe I'll boot into the MacOS tomorrow and play this thing once more.
John
I have an 8500/200. Most of the parts were taken from ebay, though I did end up buying a refurbished motherboard. I ran into a few problems upgrading to macOS 8.5 because most everything I have is non-apple and so require third-party extentions. I am now running linuxppc and macos 8.6 and have no problems. :)
As for nanosaur, I've played it a little, and think it a cute and amusing game. It certainly wouldn't be the first game I would port, but as an experimental game for the quesa library, i think its an awesome choice...
and if nothing else, its free... for both platforms... if you dont like it, deal with it... then get on with your life.
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According to the info. page at three axis interactive this game is using "cutting edge 3D technology." My only question about that and the Quesa 3D library is if it's so fast how come they are only using 3/4 of the screen to actually display the game? And don't even try to agrue that you need size 26 font to display how many egg's you've collected or what "attack mode" your in. :)
Although the gap is closing between macintosh computers and Windows computers with advancements like virtual PC and the like, the never-ending holy war of computers seem like it will never end. Microsoft comes out with something new, Mac imitates it, Mac comes out with something new, Microsoft imitates that. But now *nix platforms are getting their share of the scene, and that means a third party on the battle field. Soon programming corporations like Pangea Software will need to make 3 different versions of the same game to satisfy all their customers.
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Just wandering what you thought about Nanosaur? It seemed to be a really crappy game to me, one that takes some lines of OpenGL and a lot of drawing for the textures + some pain at creating the 3D objects. But anyway, the game far from being a marvel of technology, did anybody find it interesting? I think it sucks compared to "Moon Patrol" on the old Apple IIs :)
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pangeasoft has their priorities WAY, WAY out of line. what they REALLY ought to be porting is "gerbils".. NOT nanosaur. :)
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of course let's keep in mind this is why Quickdraw 3d was originally created; so that people could _do_ things like porting a 3d app crossplatform ("crossplatform" at the time meaning "windows and mac os", of course) without massive rewrites (although i never saw anyone do this except for the makers of the game "Havoc"). Of course, then OpenGL came along and made QD3D irrelivant, but we didn't _know_ that was going to happen when QD3D first came out.. at the time, sitting there staring for hours at pangeasoft's gerbils demo, and to a lesser extent their (still very cool) 3DTicTacToe and Wormhole 3D demos.. oh man. it just seemed like the coolest thing in the world. Esp. right after we were recovering from Quicktime VR.. we may never find a use for quicktime VR, but damn, it was nifty.
Oh well. Maybe someone could get hold of the gerbils source or something-- i dunno. i can't even find a place to download the binaries anymore, nor can i find a 3dtictactoe or wormhole 3d, or for that matter any of those small yet at the time mind-blowingly cool (3DCalc!!!) original Quickdraw 3D apps.. they used to all be linked from apple's website but now that's all gone. What happened to all this stuff?
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The king of all simple, addictive games:
TETRIS!!!
Heck, a friend of mine back in school even programmed a version of it for the old TI-81 caculator after seeing the version I had on my HP-48. I still can't believe he made a fully functional (if simple-looking,) version of Tetris in just 2400 bytes of memory, in a programming language that makes BASIC look as powerful as C++.
Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
The purpose of that site was not known.
Both games seem intended for fairly young children; neither kept my attention for very long. However, it is interesting to at least one game company doing something other than car racing, one-on-one fighting or shoot-em-ups with modern 3D hardware.
> I'm just sick of never having anything of our own that is
> so great that Win/Mac users can't wait for a port so they can get in on the action.
Well, the reason that's not likely is because all our best innovations come from Open Source. And when you're open source, there's no waiting for a port. Furthermore, look at the two biggest APIs in use for Linux gaming right now, SDL and OpenGL. Both of these libraries make ports to other platforms TRIVIAL, a matter of a few hours worth of bug chasing and recompiling. Yay-rah, I say, I'm personally liking the games that are 'simultaneously developed' for different platforms, like Parsec for instance. (BTW, if you haven't checked out that demo yet, it's well worth the download time.)
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Nanosaur seems like one of the best reasons to buy a Macintosh -- smooth action, good controls, nice textures, and action suitable even for small kids. But if you can put Nanosaur and a close-enough-to-Aqua theme on a Linux box, the premium for The Real Thing suddenly looks a little steeper.
Dude, I totally just slapped a Porsche sticker on my 98 Eclipse and now noone can tell the difference. Thanks for the advice.
Set your browse level to 2. That's where mine is and you filter out about 98% of the /. crap. Of course, you won't be able to see your own posts, but that's a small price to pay.
Of course, all that childishness would probably discourage visiting emissaries. Perhaps the default browse level should be 2 unless you explicitly change it. If you don't want to have a cookie, we don't really care what you think anyway, right?
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5 of the most addictive games I've ever encounterd in no particular order:
1) Any roguelike. Angband seems to be my favorite.
2) Ogre. There was an implementation of this for SCO about a decade ago.
3) Mille Bourne. This was another one I was introduced to on SCO. You can get it for Linux or the Palm Pilot, too.
4) Ski. This was an incredibly silly character mode game for DG/UX a while back. It was so simple you could play it on a paper teletype.
5) Robots. This is an old classic and has been implemented on nearly as many platforms as Emacs has. Hmm. I should write an implementation in E-Lisp...
Lets not forget Solitaire, either. For a while my favorite quote was: "Windows: The best game of solitaire $90 can buy!"
So for all you people who ask why it's important that a cheesy mac demo game gets ported, maybe there's an answer in there somewhere. Maybe not, too.
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One thing mentioned on the Quesa maillist is that this may allow for more resources to bear in the completion of the library. Progress on Quesa hasn't been too bad (although you wouldn't guess it from the rather infrequent releases-- there are just a small cadre of developers working on it), but a few hard snags still remain before the current goal of QD3D 1.6 compatibility (e.g. NURBS equations, according to Joe Strout)
By the way, for anyone not familiar with Quesa, check it out. It's an incredibly well-designed 3D scene graph API, roughly the equivalent of Inventor. (Or is it Performer? I keep getting those two mixed up). Apple dropped support for it in OS X (they went OpenGL-only), so right now the API is in that same eerie twilight zone as the old OPENSTEP API, where you have this very clean, well-architectured standard basically abandoned by its parent company. (The cool thing being, of course, that future development of such a standard falls into the hands of "the community," a la GNUStep)
I've heard wonders of the elegance of this API. Definitely superior to Inventor. (or Performer). And the nice thing about Quesa is that the implementation is sweet-- the structure, even the commenting is beautifully done. Quesa is going to be one hell of a graphics library when it is finished. I'm hoping it will become the cross-platform standard 3D scene graph layer, much as OpenGL already has for low-level 3D. I'd be hard-pressed to name anything better.
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I am very dissapointed to see the lack of support that most have shown so far in the discussion of this forum. Most of the posts have either been useless trolls or simply stupid. Do you think what you are doing is at all helpful. Did you even follow the links. Looking at this it is probably not the type of game that I would play now as I am more into the first person shooter genre. It is however something that I would have loved when I was younger and anything that broadens the scope of linux is a good thing so rather than criticizing stop and think what you are doing. So far their have been very few worthwhile posts. Slashdot is going downhill and only the people that are causing the problems can fix this.
When you are hitting the submit button pause and think for a second. Is what you are doing in any way helpful. Is it even going to help you or are you behaving the way you are simply to be cute or because you want attention?
On another note people that actually read the article would have noticed that this is a good thing not only because linux will get more software but because the developers are embracing a concept called "charity ware" in which people who like the software give money to a charity instead of paying the developers.
Aaron
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This is just another example of the endless stream of hand-me-downs the Linux community has been given. It's great that companies are giving us anything, and I certainly don't blame them. I'm just sick of never having anything of our own that is so great that Win/Mac users can't wait for a port so they can get in on the action.
Isn't it about time we did something monumental instead of just porting and cloning apps from other OSes?
I'm grateful for what we've been given so far, but it's time to innovate.