RTFpost. He's doing something like "uint count, then later if (count0){(overflow handling)}". Which won't be compiled but needs to be there because sometimes he'll need the same code with count being an int(perhaps it's a separate file that includes a header so count will be a uint on some platforms and int on others). So the code needs to be there, and he doesn't want gcc warning about it
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I think it could work. Especially if they don't worry about optimizing. And I think it's good that there's an alternative, competition is usually good and choice is always good. Same reason I support abiword.
I want python. It's a very good language, easy to program in, but can be a bit slow, and even when it isn't it's assumed to be because it's interpreted. Please add python support to gcc if you can.
I'm not the OP, but just make binary packages on your main system and pass them over to the 386 however. Set -march=i386 -mcpu=i386 -mno-mmx -mno-sse -mno-3dnow in cflags and assuming you're on an x86 for your main system it should work fine. Distcc will also work though.
In that case, how were you able to guarantee a release date? Were you planning to ship one of the betas or release candidates if official gcc 4 wasn't out yet? Did you have advance notice of the release?
GCC is GPL, so MS can't add the extension to VC++ without making it GPL, which they don't want to do, and possibly can't. (might not have rights to distribute source for some of the things included). So for practical purposes you are locked out of propriety compilers. And since gcc is there, to the best of my knowledge no-one has made a big effort to make another free compiler (maybe one or all of the BSDs has one, but there again they can't incorporate gcc code because they want to keep the core system BSD rather than gpl), that means you're practically locked into gcc, because there isn't and won't be another compiler that has those features.
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True, but why the are there not mirrors of all the different versions? Debian has something like 300 different mirrors, and you wouldn't be increasing the overall bandwidth any - just have different mirrors have binary packages done with different options, and the package install tool uses the one you need? (I'm a gentoo user who would like to have both USE and binary packages)
But they *are* known to sell personal information and prevent themselves being uninstalled. "Some spyware companies claim X" does not mean "All companies who claim X make spyware".
The idea is more of a -devel branch than a true fork. Gnome 3 will introduce things which are very different, and so all he's saying is gnome 2 should still be maintained for a while. Like linux 2.4.
But when it was first introduced, THERE WAS NO OPTION. It was added in the next.1 release, because there was so much user outcry, but the gnome people, when they first introduced it, GAVE USERS NO OPTION. (You had to change an undocumented setting by directly editing the registry)
I really want to use it, it's 6 years old, please somebody implement it! (I'll try after my current project if you like, but you probably don't want my kind of coding going into gcc. Really. I hate OOP and use goto where I feel like it)
Representative democracies like that I live in (UK, although we have some weirdness with royal perrogative (I don't mean that word) which messes things up but not too much) are a reasonable first-order approximation to a true democracy. Whether or not a state is a dictatorship is pretty much irrelevant to whether or not it's communist. There were some genuine attempts at communism, before stalin took over soviet russia was by and large really trying. Of course power corrupts and most states are nowhere near what they pupport to be, but they are towards that way, and they are democratic/communist enough to make that a topic of conflict
But why would Linus take him to task knowing that he would not be able to respond publicly?
Because that's the best time to attack someone. I think, despite what you say, Linus didn't believe it must end. He felt this one would be different. Ultimately he made a bad call, he's angry about it, and to distract attention from his misjudgement he's attacking someone who can't respond.
And Perens? This is a slugfest that only Gates, Darl, and RMS would love - all for differing reasons. Why does Perens feel compelled to call out Linus over his treatment of Tridgell?
Because someone had to do it, and it had to be someone with the standing. Linus is doing something horrible, but do you think he or his fans would listen if you or me called him on it? Which I would, in an instant. But probably only Perens and ESR had the stature to do this.
I recommend it as a way of setting up printers. The functionality is the same but it looks nicer and seems easier to use for those without cups experience. I don't know if there's a gnome equivalent.
The A14, which is near me, used to be the A45 and was changed fairly recently along with being lengthened to meet the M1, so I don't think it's entirely like that. The other end was past the A5 and I'm pretty sure the A6 too. Most of the roads around here start with 1, but I don't think it's all of them, even when they're entirely between the A1 and 2.
That is lsb-compliant as it currently stands, provided your shell script only depends on lsb commands in the lsb locations. Lsb-compliant distros have to have a way to install rpms, but that's not too difficult
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As I said above, there's still important bits missing, if there werent c99 (or rather g99) would be the default std.
RTFpost. He's doing something like "uint count, then later if (count0){(overflow handling)}". Which won't be compiled but needs to be there because sometimes he'll need the same code with count being an int(perhaps it's a separate file that includes a header so count will be a uint on some platforms and int on others). So the code needs to be there, and he doesn't want gcc warning about it
I think it could work. Especially if they don't worry about optimizing. And I think it's good that there's an alternative, competition is usually good and choice is always good. Same reason I support abiword.
I want python. It's a very good language, easy to program in, but can be a bit slow, and even when it isn't it's assumed to be because it's interpreted. Please add python support to gcc if you can.
I'm not the OP, but just make binary packages on your main system and pass them over to the 386 however. Set -march=i386 -mcpu=i386 -mno-mmx -mno-sse -mno-3dnow in cflags and assuming you're on an x86 for your main system it should work fine. Distcc will also work though.
In that case, how were you able to guarantee a release date? Were you planning to ship one of the betas or release candidates if official gcc 4 wasn't out yet? Did you have advance notice of the release?
GCC is GPL, so MS can't add the extension to VC++ without making it GPL, which they don't want to do, and possibly can't. (might not have rights to distribute source for some of the things included). So for practical purposes you are locked out of propriety compilers. And since gcc is there, to the best of my knowledge no-one has made a big effort to make another free compiler (maybe one or all of the BSDs has one, but there again they can't incorporate gcc code because they want to keep the core system BSD rather than gpl), that means you're practically locked into gcc, because there isn't and won't be another compiler that has those features.
True, but why the are there not mirrors of all the different versions? Debian has something like 300 different mirrors, and you wouldn't be increasing the overall bandwidth any - just have different mirrors have binary packages done with different options, and the package install tool uses the one you need? (I'm a gentoo user who would like to have both USE and binary packages)
But they *are* known to sell personal information and prevent themselves being uninstalled. "Some spyware companies claim X" does not mean "All companies who claim X make spyware".
The idea is more of a -devel branch than a true fork. Gnome 3 will introduce things which are very different, and so all he's saying is gnome 2 should still be maintained for a while. Like linux 2.4.
But when it was first introduced, THERE WAS NO OPTION. It was added in the next .1 release, because there was so much user outcry, but the gnome people, when they first introduced it, GAVE USERS NO OPTION. (You had to change an undocumented setting by directly editing the registry)
Yep. In fact that's what the last c stands for - it isn't GNU C Compiler, it's GNU Compiler Collection
Is broken in some important ways, for example you can't pass complex numbers to functions, which is why it isn't the default
Surely that's not a valid patent everywhere. Could there be a nonus fork with improved pointer analysis?
Try the kde java bindings. They're alright, really.
Blackdown is just a repackaged Sun one as far as I can see, not a separate one like IBM's
I really want to use it, it's 6 years old, please somebody implement it! (I'll try after my current project if you like, but you probably don't want my kind of coding going into gcc. Really. I hate OOP and use goto where I feel like it)
Representative democracies like that I live in (UK, although we have some weirdness with royal perrogative (I don't mean that word) which messes things up but not too much) are a reasonable first-order approximation to a true democracy. Whether or not a state is a dictatorship is pretty much irrelevant to whether or not it's communist. There were some genuine attempts at communism, before stalin took over soviet russia was by and large really trying. Of course power corrupts and most states are nowhere near what they pupport to be, but they are towards that way, and they are democratic/communist enough to make that a topic of conflict
He was released. The fact that he was charged doesn't mean anything, except perhaps that the laws are too vauge, you can charge anyone with anything.
Because that's the best time to attack someone. I think, despite what you say, Linus didn't believe it must end. He felt this one would be different. Ultimately he made a bad call, he's angry about it, and to distract attention from his misjudgement he's attacking someone who can't respond.
And Perens? This is a slugfest that only Gates, Darl, and RMS would love - all for differing reasons. Why does Perens feel compelled to call out Linus over his treatment of Tridgell?
Because someone had to do it, and it had to be someone with the standing. Linus is doing something horrible, but do you think he or his fans would listen if you or me called him on it? Which I would, in an instant. But probably only Perens and ESR had the stature to do this.
I recommend it as a way of setting up printers. The functionality is the same but it looks nicer and seems easier to use for those without cups experience. I don't know if there's a gnome equivalent.
The A14, which is near me, used to be the A45 and was changed fairly recently along with being lengthened to meet the M1, so I don't think it's entirely like that. The other end was past the A5 and I'm pretty sure the A6 too. Most of the roads around here start with 1, but I don't think it's all of them, even when they're entirely between the A1 and 2.
Yep. And it was distributed in the "toys" category.
That is lsb-compliant as it currently stands, provided your shell script only depends on lsb commands in the lsb locations. Lsb-compliant distros have to have a way to install rpms, but that's not too difficult
His word is not law, that's the whole point of OSS. We can fork it when he does stupid things. We don't want to waste effort, so we flame him first.