It replicates, so it *is* a virus. Whether user has to do something or not has no significance.
Stop calling it a trojan to make it sound like it's not that bad. It's a virus.
Look, pal, read the original posting before coming up with your smart comments.
And yeah, these viruses do not exploit any vulnerability in Monad. But very few of the most widespread viruses in the world rely on vulnerabilities. For example, email viruses are so common not because email clients would have tons of remote exploits - they are common because users are happy to execute random attachments.
>To receive something and to install it into
>the device requires too much user interaction
>to be practical.
Yeah. So Cabir has only spread to 21 countries so far.
Which in fact really is slow: 21 countries in 10 months...where most Windows viruses go worldwide in 24 hours.
But nevertheless, Cabir is really in the wild. So is the Commwarrior virus that spreads via MMS messages - confirmed reports from at least three countries.
Many of the users who've really been hit by any of the phone Bluetooth worms (there are several) have explained themselves along these lines:
"I got a cryptic message on my phone. I didn't understand what it was asking...so I clicked 'No'. When I did that, the message popped up again. So I clicked 'No'. Again. 'No'. Again. Then I tried 'Yes', and the message went away..."
It makes sense, kind of.
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http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/ has screenshots showing how exactly it executes from USB sticks under Vista and Windows 7 beta.
See http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/4834
It replicates, so it *is* a virus. Whether user has to do something or not has no significance. Stop calling it a trojan to make it sound like it's not that bad. It's a virus.
The worm uses NTP servers to check the date. Can't fool it by just resetting the clock on the computer.
We just found a new worm using the 5-day old PnP exploit. Film at 11, more at http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/.
And yeah, these viruses do not exploit any vulnerability in Monad. But very few of the most widespread viruses in the world rely on vulnerabilities. For example, email viruses are so common not because email clients would have tons of remote exploits - they are common because users are happy to execute random attachments.
Original posting on the whole thing at http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/
Mikko Hypponen
>the device requires too much user interaction
>to be practical.
Yeah. So Cabir has only spread to 21 countries so far.
Which in fact really is slow: 21 countries in 10 months...where most Windows viruses go worldwide in 24 hours.
But nevertheless, Cabir is really in the wild. So is the Commwarrior virus that spreads via MMS messages - confirmed reports from at least three countries.
Many of the users who've really been hit by any of the phone Bluetooth worms (there are several) have explained themselves along these lines: "I got a cryptic message on my phone. I didn't understand what it was asking...so I clicked 'No'. When I did that, the message popped up again. So I clicked 'No'. Again. 'No'. Again. Then I tried 'Yes', and the message went away..." It makes sense, kind of.