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Sophos is great! I installed it personally in several companies and schools and as myxiplx said, once configured, you can safely ignore it and just let it do it's job. Also, my experiences with Sophos' technical support have been nothing but stellar.
Sophos 4tw!
"only the mutations that are beneficial to continue to exist"
Since when has any mutation ever been beneficial? Show me on scientific study that proved a beneficial mutation of a species?
IF we have all evolved over millions of years from a speck ot matter floating in space, where did that matter come from?
We are a creation, there is a Creator.
When you think about it, how can anyone really license the playback for a specific format? Even if someone really tried to enforce it, somebody even smarter would figure out a way to play it back and post such findings on the net anyway.
It's very possible. I am a PC / Network Tech by trade and I recently unboxed a brand new laptop for a customer that had a dead pixel right in the middle of the screen. Our supplier replaced it no questions asked, but it does still happen.
Exactly the point I'm trying to make. There are users out there that can get by in Windows, even if they can't find Word installed on their machine if there isn't a shortcut on their desktop. How in the world is a user like that ever going to get a Linux machine to work the way they want?
I don't doubt that you can install many a Linux distro faster than Windows. What I'm getting at is the ordinary desktop user. The variety that probably has never heard of Linux and if you said "Suse" around them, they'd probably say "Bless You." These are the kinds of people that Linux needs to win over if they're going to compete with Windows, and these are the kinds of people who could never get a Linux install working like they wanted to, mostly because command line is way beyond them.
I can see your line of reasoning, but we're not limited to ethereal 1s and 0s here. There's the actual CD itself, the packaging thereof, it's shipping and placement on retail shelving, the people behind the scenes coming up with the ideas, implementing them, testing them, refining them...all of these have to be counted as a cost. Every copy that gets ripped off takes money away from Microsoft, and thus makes them look for that money elsewhere...in legitimate sales to honest buyers. Lord knows Mr. Gates could afford to give away Windows and still keep Microsoft running out of his personal bank account for the next umpteen years, but that's not going to happen. Mr. Gates will get his one way or another, and if it means raising the prices for the honest to make up the losses from the dishonest thief, then it will happen. Sure does suck for the everyman though.
I think Linux is hampered on Zeitgeist because many Linux desktops are probably ONLY on corporate LANs or the like, where they don't have direct internet access.
I would tend to think the opposite, that the Linux boxes are the ones that the hobbyists have in the spare bedroom at home, and the majority of XP machine sitting behind corporate firewalls and routers don't cound in the numbers.
The fact that the oldest one is still running is a testament to Linux stability. I'm sure a Windows machine would have keeled over five times in that timeframe.
These will never go away as long as there are people using PCs. Until they start making people take moron tests before issuing them a PC, there will be some idiot who insists on opening this attachment from someone they don't know, just becuase the subject of the email says "Open this now!!"
I work for a network installation/support company, and trust me...there are plenty of people that will be running server installs longer than 4 years. We just recently had to drag a customer (kicking and screaming at that) through an upgrade from Novell 5.5! I know for a fact that we have three customers currently running NT 4.0 (one's still running 3.5!) and probably won't upgrade even in Microsoft discontinues support. There are plenty of Windows 2000 servers around here running like tops, and I don't see any trouble with them lasting for a good 3 or 4 more years, barring any catastrophic hardware failure.
I don't think Linux will ever be able to touch Windows on the desktop, people have a hard enough time running Windows, much less a sometimes finicky Linux flavor. Linux will, however, pick up steam in the server rooms, especially if Microsoft continues to try and roll out a new server product every 4 years, as planned. No one will want to upgrade their server every 4 years, just as Microsoft has finally released enough service packs to get their current server install working properly!
That did happen to me, but it was only a $20 pager. And I was pissed as hell about that. If it'd been over a grand for a Powerbook, you guys would have heard about me on the news.
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Idiot. Yeah he's a "MacFag" and owns a ZUNE. Did you even think before you hit submit? Of course you didn't...
Mod parent up. And give me my money back!
+1 Sophos is great! I installed it personally in several companies and schools and as myxiplx said, once configured, you can safely ignore it and just let it do it's job. Also, my experiences with Sophos' technical support have been nothing but stellar. Sophos 4tw!
"only the mutations that are beneficial to continue to exist" Since when has any mutation ever been beneficial? Show me on scientific study that proved a beneficial mutation of a species? IF we have all evolved over millions of years from a speck ot matter floating in space, where did that matter come from? We are a creation, there is a Creator.
When you think about it, how can anyone really license the playback for a specific format? Even if someone really tried to enforce it, somebody even smarter would figure out a way to play it back and post such findings on the net anyway.
It's very possible. I am a PC / Network Tech by trade and I recently unboxed a brand new laptop for a customer that had a dead pixel right in the middle of the screen. Our supplier replaced it no questions asked, but it does still happen.
That's easy, send them to a public school in south Georgia.
Exactly the point I'm trying to make. There are users out there that can get by in Windows, even if they can't find Word installed on their machine if there isn't a shortcut on their desktop. How in the world is a user like that ever going to get a Linux machine to work the way they want?
I don't doubt that you can install many a Linux distro faster than Windows. What I'm getting at is the ordinary desktop user. The variety that probably has never heard of Linux and if you said "Suse" around them, they'd probably say "Bless You." These are the kinds of people that Linux needs to win over if they're going to compete with Windows, and these are the kinds of people who could never get a Linux install working like they wanted to, mostly because command line is way beyond them.
I can see your line of reasoning, but we're not limited to ethereal 1s and 0s here. There's the actual CD itself, the packaging thereof, it's shipping and placement on retail shelving, the people behind the scenes coming up with the ideas, implementing them, testing them, refining them...all of these have to be counted as a cost. Every copy that gets ripped off takes money away from Microsoft, and thus makes them look for that money elsewhere...in legitimate sales to honest buyers. Lord knows Mr. Gates could afford to give away Windows and still keep Microsoft running out of his personal bank account for the next umpteen years, but that's not going to happen. Mr. Gates will get his one way or another, and if it means raising the prices for the honest to make up the losses from the dishonest thief, then it will happen. Sure does suck for the everyman though.
I think Linux is hampered on Zeitgeist because many Linux desktops are probably ONLY on corporate LANs or the like, where they don't have direct internet access.
I would tend to think the opposite, that the Linux boxes are the ones that the hobbyists have in the spare bedroom at home, and the majority of XP machine sitting behind corporate firewalls and routers don't cound in the numbers.
The fact that the oldest one is still running is a testament to Linux stability. I'm sure a Windows machine would have keeled over five times in that timeframe.
You know you can disable that damn paper clip, don't you?
These will never go away as long as there are people using PCs. Until they start making people take moron tests before issuing them a PC, there will be some idiot who insists on opening this attachment from someone they don't know, just becuase the subject of the email says "Open this now!!"
And that, friends, is probably the most intelligent post I've ever read. Props to Arngautr!
I work for a network installation/support company, and trust me...there are plenty of people that will be running server installs longer than 4 years. We just recently had to drag a customer (kicking and screaming at that) through an upgrade from Novell 5.5! I know for a fact that we have three customers currently running NT 4.0 (one's still running 3.5!) and probably won't upgrade even in Microsoft discontinues support. There are plenty of Windows 2000 servers around here running like tops, and I don't see any trouble with them lasting for a good 3 or 4 more years, barring any catastrophic hardware failure.
I dowt (sic) it.
Indeed, I wouldn't want an unmixed, unmastered CD from any band, especially if I liked said band enough to want their CD before it hit stores.
And this is why Windows costs us $9999999999 to install on one machine.
I don't think Linux will ever be able to touch Windows on the desktop, people have a hard enough time running Windows, much less a sometimes finicky Linux flavor. Linux will, however, pick up steam in the server rooms, especially if Microsoft continues to try and roll out a new server product every 4 years, as planned. No one will want to upgrade their server every 4 years, just as Microsoft has finally released enough service packs to get their current server install working properly!
If anyone believes this, I've got some waterfront property in Antarctica for sale on eBay right now....
Certainly not Jesus Christ. He only ate bread and drank wine, right? :)
Any guy willing to threaten someone's kids like that should die of lead-poisoning...preferably from the business end of a 9mm.
That did happen to me, but it was only a $20 pager. And I was pissed as hell about that. If it'd been over a grand for a Powerbook, you guys would have heard about me on the news.