No. These will not be in the Mac Pro, just as Nehalem-EX wasn't - these are aimed heavily at multi-socket data-processing workloads. The Mac Pro will probably get the Xeon E5.
Too bad the T3 has been killed on pretty much every industry-standard benchmark, against the full range of 12-core Opterons, 8-core Power7's, and 8-core Nehalem-EX...
There is roughly zero overlap between top500 and the server market. Servers tend to be an I/O bound workload, whereas HPC is mostly about core performance. Over half of shipped servers come with Windows, mostly workgroup or application servers.
By both volume and revenue, Linux has less than half the server market share. By volume, Windows Server runs on a majority of servers; by revenue, 30-40% are mainframes and UNIX machines, and Windows makes up the bulk of the remainder. I assume the big reason for this is AD and Terminal Services, both of which are better than their Linux counterparts.
Linux unquestionably runs on a majority of web servers, however.
Looking at it purely from tools, I'd rather develop for WP7 than iPhone or Android. WP7 has a proper visual layout designer, while iPhone is tied to Xcode and ObjectiveC and Android has the awful XML layout system, in all of its buggy and inconsistent glory. (try putting a ListView in a ScrollView sometime!)
On the other hand, the niceness of the tools is offset by the fucking shameful cripplings in the library. The nastiest thing I can think of in this regard is lack of sockets, which makes a huge portion of modern software - you know, pretty much anything that isn't HTTP - impossible to write. There was some hope that this would end up in the NoDo update, but there's still no sign of it.
Too bad the D development process is screwed up. 1.x was never really finished/stabilized, there's no community consensus on standard library, and 2.x appears to be going nowhere good.
HP claims to have a 10-year roadmap. I suspect there's a contractual clause that says if Intel kills IA64 development, the IP and some amount of money gets transferred to HP.
It's still around and a valuable tool in the toolbox. The next-gen one (Poulson) should be the fastest processor in the world at release, assuming Intel manages to get it out on time.
Japan's military is large, modern, and extremely well-equipped, as is South Korea's. If your scenario happens, Japan immediately develops nuclear weapons - a contingency that they have been prepared for for decades - as does whatever is left of the ROK. The United States launches a nuclear retaliation if PRC or DPRK uses nuclear weapons at any point.
The Republicans have, absolutely, and they were (properly) criticized heavily for it. That dichotomy is when a Democratic President takes office and does what is effectively the same thing and gets near-universal praise for it.
Iraq had an outright civil war in 1991. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed during the war, and thousands more executed afterwards. Should the US have intervened?
I agree. I just think that the point here is being missed in favor of "OMG SAVE THE LIBYANS" zeitgeist. Dictators exist. Wars, exist, including civil wars, and that's what the Libya situation is at this point.
Have entire medium-sized towns in Libya been exterminated with sarin? Hundreds of thousands of people were killed in the 1991 uprising against Hussein alone. That's not counting the late-80's pogroms against Kurds and Iranians, the campaigns against the Marsh Arabs, or the thousands of soldiers executed while attempting to retreat from Kuwait.
But don't let me get in the way of the absolutely surreal pro-war narrative around here.
Yeah... gotta love how Russia is always the peacekeeper. Yep, they sure showed those terrorists in Chechnya compassion when they blew holes in the Grozny hospital maternity ward with SS-21's.
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No. These will not be in the Mac Pro, just as Nehalem-EX wasn't - these are aimed heavily at multi-socket data-processing workloads. The Mac Pro will probably get the Xeon E5.
Too bad the T3 has been killed on pretty much every industry-standard benchmark, against the full range of 12-core Opterons, 8-core Power7's, and 8-core Nehalem-EX...
There is roughly zero overlap between top500 and the server market. Servers tend to be an I/O bound workload, whereas HPC is mostly about core performance. Over half of shipped servers come with Windows, mostly workgroup or application servers.
By both volume and revenue, Linux has less than half the server market share. By volume, Windows Server runs on a majority of servers; by revenue, 30-40% are mainframes and UNIX machines, and Windows makes up the bulk of the remainder. I assume the big reason for this is AD and Terminal Services, both of which are better than their Linux counterparts.
Linux unquestionably runs on a majority of web servers, however.
Use the new GNOME Shell for a while and say "the differences are almost entirely cosmetic."
It's a little deeper than that.
So Google, Motorola, and Samsung are selling an unfinished operating system?
How? Android 3.0 is closed-source. Where's the straw man?
Yeah... after all, it's only the most widely-used programming language in the world, having passed COBOL a few years ago.
Moron...
Looking at it purely from tools, I'd rather develop for WP7 than iPhone or Android. WP7 has a proper visual layout designer, while iPhone is tied to Xcode and ObjectiveC and Android has the awful XML layout system, in all of its buggy and inconsistent glory. (try putting a ListView in a ScrollView sometime!)
On the other hand, the niceness of the tools is offset by the fucking shameful cripplings in the library. The nastiest thing I can think of in this regard is lack of sockets, which makes a huge portion of modern software - you know, pretty much anything that isn't HTTP - impossible to write. There was some hope that this would end up in the NoDo update, but there's still no sign of it.
Too bad the D development process is screwed up. 1.x was never really finished/stabilized, there's no community consensus on standard library, and 2.x appears to be going nowhere good.
You can't get x86 modules for z. I know. I run one.
Lx86 lets you run x86 linux applications... just like IA32 EL on IA64. Emulators aren't interesting.
ACOS-2 is going to x86, but ACOS-4 is, at least currently, still on IA64.
No they won't. They'll be using HP's compilers.
You think Linux is the platform of choice for high-end RISC servers? Seriously?
It's also used for VMS, HP NonStop, and some proprietary systems (GCOS, ACOS). NonStop is probably tougher to move away from than HP-UX.
HP claims to have a 10-year roadmap. I suspect there's a contractual clause that says if Intel kills IA64 development, the IP and some amount of money gets transferred to HP.
Uh, you realize SPARC, Power, z, Unisys BLS, Unisys Dorado, and all the other enterprise platforms lack x86 compatibility too, right?
Itanium has its failings. That isn't one. Those who talk about how that is the problem aren't the people that Itanium is for.
It's still around and a valuable tool in the toolbox. The next-gen one (Poulson) should be the fastest processor in the world at release, assuming Intel manages to get it out on time.
Intel is obligated to continue developing Itanium, or HP sues them. Itanium isn't going anywhere, and Oracle is spreading FUD.
Japan's military is large, modern, and extremely well-equipped, as is South Korea's. If your scenario happens, Japan immediately develops nuclear weapons - a contingency that they have been prepared for for decades - as does whatever is left of the ROK. The United States launches a nuclear retaliation if PRC or DPRK uses nuclear weapons at any point.
The US may be fading, but it is still on top.
The Republicans have, absolutely, and they were (properly) criticized heavily for it. That dichotomy is when a Democratic President takes office and does what is effectively the same thing and gets near-universal praise for it.
Iraq had an outright civil war in 1991. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed during the war, and thousands more executed afterwards. Should the US have intervened?
I agree. I just think that the point here is being missed in favor of "OMG SAVE THE LIBYANS" zeitgeist. Dictators exist. Wars, exist, including civil wars, and that's what the Libya situation is at this point.
Have entire medium-sized towns in Libya been exterminated with sarin? Hundreds of thousands of people were killed in the 1991 uprising against Hussein alone. That's not counting the late-80's pogroms against Kurds and Iranians, the campaigns against the Marsh Arabs, or the thousands of soldiers executed while attempting to retreat from Kuwait.
But don't let me get in the way of the absolutely surreal pro-war narrative around here.
Yeah... gotta love how Russia is always the peacekeeper. Yep, they sure showed those terrorists in Chechnya compassion when they blew holes in the Grozny hospital maternity ward with SS-21's.
You're right. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Qaddafi aren't equivalent.
Saddam was far, far worse.