When you choose to play a certain machine part of the gamble you're making is hoping your machine doesn't malfunction.
I don't see that assessment being all that good for business. That kind of 'gamble' is about on the level of gambling that you won't choke to death on the olive in the martini they comp you. In other words it's not a fun gamble. People come to vegas for the thrill. There is absolutely no thrill in hoping the machine doesn't fail and fool you into thinking you hit the jackpot.
partial propane (which is ALWAYS prepaid in these parts).
I've never heard of that. They come up fill up your propane tank, you pay them - usually they send a bill in the mail for the exact amount they put in. Are you saying you pay them first and then they fill up your propane tank? What if it doesn't all fit in the tank - do they give you a refund?
He lied about the law about parking on along the road. That's already been demonstrated. Seems like you are completely in the wrong here but can't accept it.
You know the Gates thing was probably one of the poorer examples you could cite. The cop lied about what he was told on scene in order to justify his actions.
That's a terribly defeatist attitude. The government's enforcers don't play fair but they are the law so they get a free pass. All goes back to my original post about it may be the way of the world, but it sure ain't right.
I've had cops stop me for reasons I consider retarded, but from knowing as little about me as I do, was reasonable. I was polite, was treated politely, and had no rights violated.
Other than being stopped for no good reason that is.
As I said before, it's a stupid law, it should at least be posted, but I don't think the police are the ones who make those decisions. As they say, they don't make the laws, they just enforce them.
If you think running someone's license plate is abusing authority, there is no reason to continue this discussion.
Good thing you made it up then. What I think is that telling someone they had better not leave because he's running your license plates without any other reason to do so is abusive.
If you think that a cop enforcing a law about parking is abuse of his authority, well, I'm just glad I don't live near you.
Too bad that's not what he was doing. See the statute which requires proper marking in order to enforce the law.
So where is this proper authority you speak of now?
In talking to locals, there are signs scattered around the county which state "no parking on any roads at any time".
It doesn't sound like merely being scattered about is enough:
(5)This section shall not be enforced on any highway, road or public right-of-way that is not properly marked to provide notice of any prohibited parking in accordance with the requirements of the Florida Department of Transportation.
If there had been a rash of burglaries in the area, it's a completely acceptable police response to the guy being parked there.
Its a perfectly reasonable response to say "you aren't going to drive off while I am running your plates?" Like the guy is supposed to know what the cop is doing?
Not all cops are out there to make your life a living hell.
Of course they aren't. What they are out to do is make their lives as easy as possible at your expense.
That has nothing to do with it. That saying is about convincing people to do you a favor of some sort of another. When a cop's decision to not abuse his authority is considered a favor then the the system is already broken.
Now he knows what I look like, and what my car is. If someone else is messing with my car, they'll get stopped. He knows I'm one of the "good guys", so it's less likely I'll be messed with.
Since its illegal to park your car along the road, chances of him seeing anyone messing with it are slim to none. Unless, of course, you now willfully break the law by parking along the road.
Which, I'll give you 10:1 odds he lied about all of that. Check your local statutes, no way is parking on the shoulder of a public road going to be illegal. Obstructing a public road yes, but parking along it, no way.
See, this is the correct way to interact with the police. Be polite and friendly, build rapport, be willing to learn what the law is, and they'll be a lot nicer to you in return.
I have made a number of acquaintances who don't understand that, won't try it, and they unsurprisingly got roughed up and written up by the police a lot.
And you don't see a problem with that? The cop treats the guy like a criminal, he kisses the cop's ass and you say "good for him!" It may be smart, it may be the way of the world, but it is definitely NOT something that is compatible with American ideals.
There were a huge number of scumbags in Rampart- a lot were wearing gang colors, others police uniforms.
In many places around the country the cops have taken to wearing gang colors - particularly on their personal vehicles. Its disgusting that they would adopt the intimidation tactics of criminals and do so proudly too.
And I personally know cops and other law enforcement that work hard to help keep our society safe, regardless of the risk to themselves. What's your point?
And whenever any of them defend a corrupt cop or turn a blind eye because of their belief in the thin blue line they are just as bad as the guys they are protecting. The number of cops willing to speak out about other cops is a tiny minority. My uncle was a career cop himself and the stories I've heard were rampant.
Shows like 24 epitomize this, that police are hindered by laws and the "bad guys" get away the more we enforce the constitution.
I totally disagree. I am extremely pro-civil liberties and have watched 24 with a critical eye since the first episode. And what I've seen is that more often than not when the "good guys" break the law or otherwise act like douches it backfires on them. They tortured the wrong people - people who then refused to help them later on in the story because of it. They tortured people and got the wrong answers - Jack tortured his own brother who gave him a misleading truth (something personal about fooling around with his wife or something) that totally led Jack astray from the real villans in that episode. They got all racial-profiling on the middle-easterners and it was a blondie who was the real culprit. Even in the final season when Jack goes vigilante because the president wont' step up - all of the mayhem he creates just ultimately backfires and he ends up in custody completely hamstrung - the only reason the president eventually does the right thing had nothing to do with the people he killed -- only the eventual realization that lies and underhand dealing can never be a base for successful long-term cooperation.
So, while the common perception of 24 is exactly what you have expressed, I think its a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder - the show itself has been pretty explicit about the downsides of an "ends justifies the means" strategy.
In a word, they were FUCKED. And they did it to themselves.
It seems be a lot more complicated than the over-simplified stories that are commonly told. For example, it looks like climate change - the "little ice age" - had as much to do with the deforestation as anything else. Also there are reports of trees on the island long past the initial population collapse.
Yes, we get it. Calling me a racist, is the easiest way for you to vilify me and ignore the topic. Nice diversion. Classic no doubt. This is the way we battle these days. The first one to call the other racist and reference hitler, wins.
You just keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper. Who do think you are convincing with that argument? That's not rhetorical either - look at the guys responding to your posts in support of you -- talking about dhimmis and conflating "devout muslims" with extremists, claiming muslims are commanded to use violence against people who insult islam. What, are those guys also fooled by political correctness?
So how about those muslims that teach hate and murder? You seem to have no problem with them?
Ah, the two wrongs make a right defense. You just keep on quacking away like a duck, its like there is a playbook and you've decided to follow it point by point.
If you really just made an error in grammar then why won't you cop to it? Why do you insist on behaving exactly the opposite of what you claim to be? Either you have such a massive ego you that you can never accept your own faults or you meant exactly what you wrote. If you've got a third answer that isn't just a repeat of blaming political correctness I think we'd all like to hear it.
Stop. Its just silly. I understand your point but instead of addressing the topic, you want to proclaim me as a racist. Because as we know, racists are all wrong, and the easiest thing to do in an argument is not discuss the issue, but find a way to call someone a racist.
You know what would have dispelled all doubt?
If you had just come out and said that you made a mistake.
Instead you've gone on now with at least two posts full of hand-wavy emotional appeals about political correctness and your own personal victimization in the discussion - all buttressed with terribly poor logic. That's exactly what people think bigots do when cornered. You don't want to be a duck? Stop quacking.
They mean Digital Restrictions Management. It is a mistake to let them say what they want is a universal format. What they want is some form of control that isn't vendor-locked to a distributor who isn't them. And it ain't gonna happen.
Precisely. It's all about the DRM. If we are lucky this will play out exactly like it did for the music industry. Those fatcats didn't voluntarily stop using DRM - they just got so sick of Steve Jobs and his monopoly control of itunes that they figured dropping DRM was the lesser of two evils. It was either keep DRM and lose pricing control to Jobs or drop DRM and regain pricing control via multiple reseller like Walmart, Amazon. The tv & movie guys have avoided dropping DRM because Apple does not hold a monopoly on video playback devices. If the ebook market goes the way of the mp3 player, then the ebook publishers will probably have to go to something like plain HTML in order to escape Jobs's tyranny.
"This Broccoli taste like shit... but not all broccoli is bad..."
Uh no. You wrote:
Muslims will NEVER give us an inch, so we we give up our freedom? What a shit deal.
Clearly you understand that the word 'this' changes the reference from the set of all broccoli to the specific broccoli on your plate.
Arent we smart enough to know that there are no absolutes?
You appear to be, but you also made a clear word choice that indicated that an absolute was precisely what you were talking about. Furthermore, you did it twice - first with, "I'm so tired of people bending over for Muslims and their way of life. " and then immediately again with the line quoted above.
So you claim to be numerate but you make specific word choices indicating innumeracy. And then you get hyper-defensive when someone points out your math sucks ass.
Who else do we know who gets hyper-defensive when their fallacies are challenged?
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When you choose to play a certain machine part of the gamble you're making is hoping your machine doesn't malfunction.
I don't see that assessment being all that good for business. That kind of 'gamble' is about on the level of gambling that you won't choke to death on the olive in the martini they comp you. In other words it's not a fun gamble. People come to vegas for the thrill. There is absolutely no thrill in hoping the machine doesn't fail and fool you into thinking you hit the jackpot.
partial propane (which is ALWAYS prepaid in these parts).
I've never heard of that.
They come up fill up your propane tank, you pay them - usually they send a bill in the mail for the exact amount they put in.
Are you saying you pay them first and then they fill up your propane tank? What if it doesn't all fit in the tank - do they give you a refund?
Oh really?
He lied about the law about parking on along the road.
That's already been demonstrated.
Seems like you are completely in the wrong here but can't accept it.
You know the Gates thing was probably one of the poorer examples you could cite.
The cop lied about what he was told on scene in order to justify his actions.
How come every ideal on slashdot is applied so haphazardly?
Because YOU are not ME and we are both slashdot.
Or in other words slashdot is tens of thousands of individuals all with their own ideas.
That's a terribly defeatist attitude. The government's enforcers don't play fair but they are the law so they get a free pass.
All goes back to my original post about it may be the way of the world, but it sure ain't right.
I've had cops stop me for reasons I consider retarded, but from knowing as little about me as I do, was reasonable. I was polite, was treated politely, and had no rights violated.
Other than being stopped for no good reason that is.
As I said before, it's a stupid law, it should at least be posted, but I don't think the police are the ones who make those decisions. As they say, they don't make the laws, they just enforce them.
And if the cop made up the law to rationalize his abuse of authority?
You are quite right, posting is mandatory for enforcement.
If you think running someone's license plate is abusing authority, there is no reason to continue this discussion.
Good thing you made it up then.
What I think is that telling someone they had better not leave because he's running your license plates without any other reason to do so is abusive.
If you think that a cop enforcing a law about parking is abuse of his authority, well, I'm just glad I don't live near you.
Too bad that's not what he was doing. See the statute which requires proper marking in order to enforce the law.
So where is this proper authority you speak of now?
In talking to locals, there are signs scattered around the county which state "no parking on any roads at any time".
It doesn't sound like merely being scattered about is enough:
(5)This section shall not be enforced on any highway, road or public right-of-way that is not properly marked to provide notice of any prohibited parking in accordance with the requirements of the Florida Department of Transportation.
If there had been a rash of burglaries in the area, it's a completely acceptable police response to the guy being parked there.
Its a perfectly reasonable response to say "you aren't going to drive off while I am running your plates?"
Like the guy is supposed to know what the cop is doing?
Not all cops are out there to make your life a living hell.
Of course they aren't. What they are out to do is make their lives as easy as possible at your expense.
I am sure Microsoft is able to become an inoperability leader.
Fixed that for ya!.
Yeah it's old, but it's good.
Flies: Vinegar vs. Honey.
The debate rages.
That has nothing to do with it.
That saying is about convincing people to do you a favor of some sort of another.
When a cop's decision to not abuse his authority is considered a favor then the the system is already broken.
Now he knows what I look like, and what my car is. If someone else is messing with my car, they'll get stopped. He knows I'm one of the "good guys", so it's less likely I'll be messed with.
Since its illegal to park your car along the road, chances of him seeing anyone messing with it are slim to none. Unless, of course, you now willfully break the law by parking along the road.
Which, I'll give you 10:1 odds he lied about all of that. Check your local statutes, no way is parking on the shoulder of a public road going to be illegal. Obstructing a public road yes, but parking along it, no way.
See, this is the correct way to interact with the police. Be polite and friendly, build rapport, be willing to learn what the law is, and they'll be a lot nicer to you in return.
I have made a number of acquaintances who don't understand that, won't try it, and they unsurprisingly got roughed up and written up by the police a lot.
And you don't see a problem with that?
The cop treats the guy like a criminal, he kisses the cop's ass and you say "good for him!"
It may be smart, it may be the way of the world, but it is definitely NOT something that is compatible with American ideals.
There were a huge number of scumbags in Rampart- a lot were wearing gang colors, others police uniforms.
In many places around the country the cops have taken to wearing gang colors - particularly on their personal vehicles. Its disgusting that they would adopt the intimidation tactics of criminals and do so proudly too.
And I personally know cops and other law enforcement that work hard to help keep our society safe, regardless of the risk to themselves. What's your point?
And whenever any of them defend a corrupt cop or turn a blind eye because of their belief in the thin blue line they are just as bad as the guys they are protecting. The number of cops willing to speak out about other cops is a tiny minority. My uncle was a career cop himself and the stories I've heard were rampant.
Shows like 24 epitomize this, that police are hindered by laws and the "bad guys" get away the more we enforce the constitution.
I totally disagree. I am extremely pro-civil liberties and have watched 24 with a critical eye since the first episode. And what I've seen is that more often than not when the "good guys" break the law or otherwise act like douches it backfires on them. They tortured the wrong people - people who then refused to help them later on in the story because of it. They tortured people and got the wrong answers - Jack tortured his own brother who gave him a misleading truth (something personal about fooling around with his wife or something) that totally led Jack astray from the real villans in that episode. They got all racial-profiling on the middle-easterners and it was a blondie who was the real culprit. Even in the final season when Jack goes vigilante because the president wont' step up - all of the mayhem he creates just ultimately backfires and he ends up in custody completely hamstrung - the only reason the president eventually does the right thing had nothing to do with the people he killed -- only the eventual realization that lies and underhand dealing can never be a base for successful long-term cooperation.
So, while the common perception of 24 is exactly what you have expressed, I think its a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder - the show itself has been pretty explicit about the downsides of an "ends justifies the means" strategy.
In a word, they were FUCKED. And they did it to themselves.
It seems be a lot more complicated than the over-simplified stories that are commonly told. For example, it looks like climate change - the "little ice age" - had as much to do with the deforestation as anything else. Also there are reports of trees on the island long past the initial population collapse.
Basically, I'm right... and you're trying to flank me with nonsense... and you keep trying.
Islam preaches hate and death...
Why do you keep saying that? Do you believe it or are you trying to flank me with nonsense?
Yes, we get it. Calling me a racist, is the easiest way for you to vilify me and ignore the topic. Nice diversion. Classic no doubt. This is the way we battle these days. The first one to call the other racist and reference hitler, wins.
You just keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper. Who do think you are convincing with that argument? That's not rhetorical either - look at the guys responding to your posts in support of you -- talking about dhimmis and conflating "devout muslims" with extremists, claiming muslims are commanded to use violence against people who insult islam. What, are those guys also fooled by political correctness?
So how about those muslims that teach hate and murder? You seem to have no problem with them?
Ah, the two wrongs make a right defense. You just keep on quacking away like a duck, its like there is a playbook and you've decided to follow it point by point.
If you really just made an error in grammar then why won't you cop to it?
Why do you insist on behaving exactly the opposite of what you claim to be?
Either you have such a massive ego you that you can never accept your own faults or you meant exactly what you wrote.
If you've got a third answer that isn't just a repeat of blaming political correctness I think we'd all like to hear it.
Stop. Its just silly. I understand your point but instead of addressing the topic, you want to proclaim me as a racist. Because as we know, racists are all wrong, and the easiest thing to do in an argument is not discuss the issue, but find a way to call someone a racist.
You know what would have dispelled all doubt?
If you had just come out and said that you made a mistake.
Instead you've gone on now with at least two posts full of hand-wavy emotional appeals about political correctness and your own personal victimization in the discussion - all buttressed with terribly poor logic. That's exactly what people think bigots do when cornered. You don't want to be a duck? Stop quacking.
They mean Digital Restrictions Management. It is a mistake to let them say what they want is a universal format. What they want is some form of control that isn't vendor-locked to a distributor who isn't them. And it ain't gonna happen.
Precisely. It's all about the DRM. If we are lucky this will play out exactly like it did for the music industry. Those fatcats didn't voluntarily stop using DRM - they just got so sick of Steve Jobs and his monopoly control of itunes that they figured dropping DRM was the lesser of two evils. It was either keep DRM and lose pricing control to Jobs or drop DRM and regain pricing control via multiple reseller like Walmart, Amazon. The tv & movie guys have avoided dropping DRM because Apple does not hold a monopoly on video playback devices. If the ebook market goes the way of the mp3 player, then the ebook publishers will probably have to go to something like plain HTML in order to escape Jobs's tyranny.
"This Broccoli taste like shit... but not all broccoli is bad..."
Uh no. You wrote:
Muslims will NEVER give us an inch, so we we give up our freedom? What a shit deal.
Clearly you understand that the word 'this' changes the reference from the set of all broccoli to the specific broccoli on your plate.
Arent we smart enough to know that there are no absolutes?
You appear to be, but you also made a clear word choice that indicated that an absolute was precisely what you were talking about. Furthermore, you did it twice - first with, "I'm so tired of people bending over for Muslims and their way of life. " and then immediately again with the line quoted above.
So you claim to be numerate but you make specific word choices indicating innumeracy.
And then you get hyper-defensive when someone points out your math sucks ass.
Who else do we know who gets hyper-defensive when their fallacies are challenged?
How about a direct link to the actual site - or even the actual list?