Exactly my thoughts too - it is rare for any new compression algorithm to be less cpu intensive on the decompression side than what we already have. So, while adding new algorithms to the list that clients can negotiate with servers won't hurt, chances are the most band-width constrained clients won't support them anyway.
As long as the compression can be done on cached pages, hey- that's another 3-8% more people served with the same amount of bandwidth,
Can anyone address their methodology of testing? They talk about test corpa - but it isn't clear to me if they feed all off the data in each corpa into a single compression run or they individually compressed each file (necessitating a restart of the dictionary search for each one). If it is the former, that may be skewing their results as well since the typical web server isn't handing out 3MB+ files that often.
In both cases, they (the apologists/people disagreeing with ElectricTurtle) will say how "a majority" are peaceful moderates who disavow extremists, regardless of the fact that extremists (Islamic or feminist) are still out and about (refer to the stats ElectricTurtle mentioned on male issues), while the so called moderates remain passive.
That's the thing about being moderate, you have a life of your own that keeps you busy unlike the extremists who make their extermism the center of their life. Your argument is like saying that all white people are white supremacists since there are still white supremacists "out and about."
That's not what feminism is at all. It is simply the idea that men and women, while different, are equally valuable and should be equally valued.
Reading through this sub-thread I found it really striking how ElectricTurtle's position on feminism is so similar to the typical islamaphobe's position on islam. In both cases they insist on defining the entire group by the characteristics of the most extreme of the people who apply the same label to themselves - regardless of the fact that the vast majority of the group disavow those extremists.
I think you will find ElectricTurtle to be completely incapable of accepting any other definition of feminism than the one he promotes. If he's at all like those islamaphobes, he's spent a significant amount of time and energy constructing his own persona as being in opposition to his definition of feminisim. So much so that he will react to any dispute over his interpretation of what feminism means as a personal attack because to accept any redefinition would be a personality shattering event for him.
Yes, because the best way to convince someone of the strength of your arguments is to tell them you have the answers but you won't share them, instead they have to go on a wild goose to prove you right. Yeah...
Anyway, as long as you got choices I would suggest to not contest and simply cancel your subscription on first notice as long as you got choices. Even if you only have a couple to choose from the ISP and you're going to is another six-strike ISP they will still hate that much more than anything else.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you don't live in the USA. The vast majority of customers here have only 2 choices - telco or cableco and the telco choice is usually butt-slow DSL.
Verizon has even colluded with comcast to stop building out any new fibre installs that would have competed with comcast's internet service business, and that's with the FCC's blessing.
So... how many confirmed terrorist attacks have these scanners actually stopped, that previous procedures wouldn't have?
Zero. Neither the previous procedures nor these machines have ever caught a single terrorist. Literally no one that the TSA has ever detained has been charged with terrorism, much less convicted. Meanwhile there have been essentially no terrorist attacks anywhere else on US soil for the last decade, so it isn't like the threat ot the TSA's scanners have been enough to convince the terrorists to go elsewhere. There just aren't any in the first place.
How about drugs smuggling?
Way too many. Drug smuggling does not constitute an imminent threat (which is the legal rationalization for these scanners) but that doesn't mean they don't bust people with drugs and other contraband that they saw on the scanner while looking for WMDs. Those are basically the only people who get busted by the TSA.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods.
Gee, thanks Captain Obvious, never would have known that's what I was doing if not for you!
So you knew you were making an unfounded claim of stereotyping and yet you did it anyway? You may think you are being snarky, all I see is someone admitting to poor judgment.
DFurno2003 was quite obviously pointing out how the extremist, fringe groups of each sub-demographic who tend to stand out, and thus receive the most attention from the public at large (probably due in good part to the fact that they are so damn extreme).
Well, I am having a hard time coming up with an "extremist" gay rights advocate that gets anywhere near the kind of attention the VP of the NRA has been getting. How he qualifies as a redneck, I dunno, but he was your example.
The list goes on and on... Glad you think your little AR-15 is the sound of freedom, but good luck throwing off THAT government.
Have you been paying attention to recent world events? You know, like the failed US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? Hundreds of billions of dollars of state-of-the-art military equipment and they still couldn't win a fight with people who had little more than small arms. And those people are strangers to us. Fighting other Americans would be even harder because of divided loyalties within the ranks of government troops.
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods. What do you make of the fact that the original post about "gun-loving hill billy rednecks" was also down-modded to -1? How do you know it wasn't "self-proclaimed intellectuals" who did that too because they realize that neither stereotype is particularly accurate?
How does that work when you send e-mail from half a dozen different systems, including Outlook, pine, Android mail, sendmail, and in a pinch, even telnet to port 25 or openssl to port 465/587?
This does not directly address the question, but it is topical.
I do the same thing with my domain and it was always a hassle to make sure I filled in the correct From: address on each email I sent. Then I found the Virtual Identity Plugin for thunderbird.
It automagically remembers what From: address to use with what To: address. It also makes the From: line fully editable on the fly and remembers what you used for the next time. It makes it dead simple to make sure that you never accidentally leak one of your unique addresses to the wrong person/company.
They need to at least confirm to him that they took him seriously and are at least attempting to track down the leak so that no more addresses leak out. Chances are they've got at least one PC with malware harvesting email addresses. If that's the case, they probably have other malware too.
It's practically impossible to get anyone to acknowledge something like that. From their perspective they just think you are yet another ass who thinks they know more about the internet than they really do.
I don't even bother any more. I get spam/malware it goes into the block list and I don't do business with the company anymore. If you really care about it, make it public. If you have a blog make an entry about it and hope it shows up in google. Or post the info here, if it gets modded up google will probably index it.
Also, if I grab random people off the street and ask them if the want to come to my house to listen to the latest insert artist name here CD, it's perfectly legal. Even though once I get enough people, they are a crowd, and they are strangers, it's not a public performance.
The operative term here is "my house." Do it basically anywhere besides that and it is a public performance.
If you do computer work programming for any part of the Department of Health or Indian Health Services. I do, and I have one, and it's required for my job.
Yeah, and do you work on classified documents at home? No.
You can haul as many strangers around in your Honda as you want and charge them as much money as you can convince them to pay for the privilege. You can't legally charge anyone to listen to your CD and you certainly can't play it for a crowd of strangers even if they don't pay you a dime.
If you bought music from musicians that are signed to a MAFIAA record label it doesn't matter what country you bought the music in. The chance that the MAFIAA isn't getting a cut of the regional licensing deal is practically zero.
I'm pretty sure you missed the point. If you had a gap, you don't know who has been through it. If you only look for introduced malware when you know somebody has been through the gap, then you are only half-assing your security.
There seems to be this common misconception that a network can be broken into without causing any damage. Tell that to the IT department that has to re-flash and re-image every damn machine on the network to make sure no backdoors were left behind.
Those actions and associated costs are not the result of having your network broken into. They are the result of being told your network is vulnerable - even if you have no knowledge that the network was actually broken into.
So by that logic, I assume you rape every woman you pass on a dark street, mug the elderly who don't go out in groups, and commit every other crime of opportunity to shame people into what *you* consider proper, minimum safe behavior. How brave and noble of you.
Yes, in fact I make suire to rape and mug every chance I get!!
The fact that you have to make such an absurd argument ought to be a clue that you have misunderstood the original point.
To you, "education" doesn't means people who are educated to do tasks, such as engineers, teachers and so on. It means being indoctrinated to think the way you do.
Really? That is such baloney. Total cop-out. Education means an increase in knowledge and skills and that universally means more than just technical school.
Because there are numerically more educated (as in high education) people in China now then in any other country in the world.
And yet as a proportion of the population, they are still quite small and quite new. You don't get political change until you get at least a sizable minority interested in change. Come back in 2 generations and you will be eating crow, and I don't mean chicken feet.
Well, at least one difference is that when a website gets hacked it is almost always the people visiting the website who are the target because the goal of the hacker is either to grab information about those users from the hacked system or to use the hacked system to distribute exploits to anyone that browses there.
While when a house is broken into, it is basically a problem for the owners of the house and not really anyone else.
So publishing a list of vulnerabilities on websites serves the purpose of shaming the website operators into better protecting their users.
Exactly my thoughts too - it is rare for any new compression algorithm to be less cpu intensive on the decompression side than what we already have. So, while adding new algorithms to the list that clients can negotiate with servers won't hurt, chances are the most band-width constrained clients won't support them anyway.
As long as the compression can be done on cached pages, hey- that's another 3-8% more people served with the same amount of bandwidth,
Can anyone address their methodology of testing? They talk about test corpa - but it isn't clear to me if they feed all off the data in each corpa into a single compression run or they individually compressed each file (necessitating a restart of the dictionary search for each one). If it is the former, that may be skewing their results as well since the typical web server isn't handing out 3MB+ files that often.
In both cases, they (the apologists/people disagreeing with ElectricTurtle) will say how "a majority" are peaceful moderates who disavow extremists, regardless of the fact that extremists (Islamic or feminist) are still out and about (refer to the stats ElectricTurtle mentioned on male issues), while the so called moderates remain passive.
That's the thing about being moderate, you have a life of your own that keeps you busy unlike the extremists who make their extermism the center of their life. Your argument is like saying that all white people are white supremacists since there are still white supremacists "out and about."
That's not what feminism is at all. It is simply the idea that men and women, while different, are equally valuable and should be equally valued.
Reading through this sub-thread I found it really striking how ElectricTurtle's position on feminism is so similar to the typical islamaphobe's position on islam. In both cases they insist on defining the entire group by the characteristics of the most extreme of the people who apply the same label to themselves - regardless of the fact that the vast majority of the group disavow those extremists.
I think you will find ElectricTurtle to be completely incapable of accepting any other definition of feminism than the one he promotes. If he's at all like those islamaphobes, he's spent a significant amount of time and energy constructing his own persona as being in opposition to his definition of feminisim. So much so that he will react to any dispute over his interpretation of what feminism means as a personal attack because to accept any redefinition would be a personality shattering event for him.
Ill leave you to research and consider that.
Yes, because the best way to convince someone of the strength of your arguments is to tell them you have the answers but you won't share them, instead they have to go on a wild goose to prove you right. Yeah...
Anyway, as long as you got choices I would suggest to not contest and simply cancel your subscription on first notice as long as you got choices. Even if you only have a couple to choose from the ISP and you're going to is another six-strike ISP they will still hate that much more than anything else.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you don't live in the USA. The vast majority of customers here have only 2 choices - telco or cableco and the telco choice is usually butt-slow DSL.
Verizon has even colluded with comcast to stop building out any new fibre installs that would have competed with comcast's internet service business, and that's with the FCC's blessing.
So... how many confirmed terrorist attacks have these scanners actually stopped, that previous procedures wouldn't have?
Zero. Neither the previous procedures nor these machines have ever caught a single terrorist. Literally no one that the TSA has ever detained has been charged with terrorism, much less convicted. Meanwhile there have been essentially no terrorist attacks anywhere else on US soil for the last decade, so it isn't like the threat ot the TSA's scanners have been enough to convince the terrorists to go elsewhere. There just aren't any in the first place.
How about drugs smuggling?
Way too many. Drug smuggling does not constitute an imminent threat (which is the legal rationalization for these scanners) but that doesn't mean they don't bust people with drugs and other contraband that they saw on the scanner while looking for WMDs. Those are basically the only people who get busted by the TSA.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods.
Gee, thanks Captain Obvious, never would have known that's what I was doing if not for you!
So you knew you were making an unfounded claim of stereotyping and yet you did it anyway? You may think you are being snarky, all I see is someone admitting to poor judgment.
DFurno2003 was quite obviously pointing out how the extremist, fringe groups of each sub-demographic who tend to stand out, and thus receive the most attention from the public at large (probably due in good part to the fact that they are so damn extreme).
Well, I am having a hard time coming up with an "extremist" gay rights advocate that gets anywhere near the kind of attention the VP of the NRA has been getting. How he qualifies as a redneck, I dunno, but he was your example.
The list goes on and on... Glad you think your little AR-15 is the sound of freedom, but good luck throwing off THAT government.
Have you been paying attention to recent world events? You know, like the failed US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? Hundreds of billions of dollars of state-of-the-art military equipment and they still couldn't win a fight with people who had little more than small arms. And those people are strangers to us. Fighting other Americans would be even harder because of divided loyalties within the ranks of government troops.
I assume this is at -1 for Unpleasant Truth?
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods. What do you make of the fact that the original post about "gun-loving hill billy rednecks" was also down-modded to -1? How do you know it wasn't "self-proclaimed intellectuals" who did that too because they realize that neither stereotype is particularly accurate?
btw did you consider that maybe it's you that's compromised? 8-)
If he were, then he would get the same viruspam sent to many, if not all, of his email addresses instead of just one.
How does that work when you send e-mail from half a dozen different systems, including Outlook, pine, Android mail, sendmail, and in a pinch, even telnet to port 25 or openssl to port 465/587?
You made your bed, now sleep in it.
This does not directly address the question, but it is topical.
I do the same thing with my domain and it was always a hassle to make sure I filled in the correct From: address on each email I sent. Then I found the Virtual Identity Plugin for thunderbird.
It automagically remembers what From: address to use with what To: address. It also makes the From: line fully editable on the fly and remembers what you used for the next time. It makes it dead simple to make sure that you never accidentally leak one of your unique addresses to the wrong person/company.
They need to at least confirm to him that they took him seriously and are at least attempting to track down the leak so that no more addresses leak out. Chances are they've got at least one PC with malware harvesting email addresses. If that's the case, they probably have other malware too.
According to my statistical analysis, there is a 16% chance that he is hoping to be wrong.
It's practically impossible to get anyone to acknowledge something like that. From their perspective they just think you are yet another ass who thinks they know more about the internet than they really do.
I don't even bother any more. I get spam/malware it goes into the block list and I don't do business with the company anymore. If you really care about it, make it public. If you have a blog make an entry about it and hope it shows up in google. Or post the info here, if it gets modded up google will probably index it.
Maybe you can't charge people to listen to it, but you can legally charge people to rent the CD from you.
Not in the USA.
See 17 U.S.C. Â109(b)(1)(A)
Also, if I grab random people off the street and ask them if the want to come to my house to listen to the latest insert artist name here CD, it's perfectly legal. Even though once I get enough people, they are a crowd, and they are strangers, it's not a public performance.
The operative term here is "my house." Do it basically anywhere besides that and it is a public performance.
If you do computer work programming for any part of the Department of Health or Indian Health Services. I do, and I have one, and it's required for my job.
Yeah, and do you work on classified documents at home? No.
You can haul as many strangers around in your Honda as you want and charge them as much money as you can convince them to pay for the privilege. You can't legally charge anyone to listen to your CD and you certainly can't play it for a crowd of strangers even if they don't pay you a dime.
If you bought music from musicians that are signed to a MAFIAA record label it doesn't matter what country you bought the music in. The chance that the MAFIAA isn't getting a cut of the regional licensing deal is practically zero.
I'm pretty sure you missed the point. If you had a gap, you don't know who has been through it. If you only look for introduced malware when you know somebody has been through the gap, then you are only half-assing your security.
There seems to be this common misconception that a network can be broken into without causing any damage. Tell that to the IT department that has to re-flash and re-image every damn machine on the network to make sure no backdoors were left behind.
Those actions and associated costs are not the result of having your network broken into. They are the result of being told your network is vulnerable - even if you have no knowledge that the network was actually broken into.
So by that logic, I assume you rape every woman you pass on a dark street, mug the elderly who don't go out in groups, and commit every other crime of opportunity to shame people into what *you* consider proper, minimum safe behavior. How brave and noble of you.
Yes, in fact I make suire to rape and mug every chance I get!!
The fact that you have to make such an absurd argument ought to be a clue that you have misunderstood the original point.
To you, "education" doesn't means people who are educated to do tasks, such as engineers, teachers and so on. It means being indoctrinated to think the way you do.
Really? That is such baloney. Total cop-out. Education means an increase in knowledge and skills and that universally means more than just technical school.
Because there are numerically more educated (as in high education) people in China now then in any other country in the world.
And yet as a proportion of the population, they are still quite small and quite new. You don't get political change until you get at least a sizable minority interested in change. Come back in 2 generations and you will be eating crow, and I don't mean chicken feet.
Well, at least one difference is that when a website gets hacked it is almost always the people visiting the website who are the target because the goal of the hacker is either to grab information about those users from the hacked system or to use the hacked system to distribute exploits to anyone that browses there.
While when a house is broken into, it is basically a problem for the owners of the house and not really anyone else.
So publishing a list of vulnerabilities on websites serves the purpose of shaming the website operators into better protecting their users.