I know the terms of the GPL and LGPL, thank you. I simply think it's unfair to make Riverbank look like the bad guys and Nokia the saviours.
Well, Trolltech insisted on not LGPL'ing their code, and therefore, requiring a commercial license to deliver Qt applications. This was very inconvenient for small business and independent developers, who had to resort to using other toolkits like wxWidgets (eew) or GTK (double eew). Do you know how painful it is to write GUI applications with GTK?
Nokia ARE heroes by allowing us to use Qt instead of GTK for proprietary applications (we have to pay the bills, youknow). Riverbank is becoming an obstacle to Python developers just as Trolltech was for C++ developers. In my eyes, they're nothing but a bunch of greedy bastards.
Dear District Court: We made a shitload of money by making a contract with Microsoft. With your Word injunction we'll have to spend a little of that shitload of money to fulfill your requirements, and we don't like that.
Sincerely, Dell.
Translation of the translation:
Dear District Court: We made a shitload of money by making a contract with Dell, and we're sick tired of you banning our products. So we're asking Dell to tell you some bullshit so you can stop fucking with us.
The parent poster is referring to Mac OS, which was derived from FreeBSD - which had a daemon as a mascot. This should be insightful or interesting instead of offtopic.
I like that quote. It doesn't work in the computer context, though, because from the perspective of functionality and quality, Linux users are the most famished of any individuals doing computing these days.
You're right, the quote doesn't work at all in the context of computer monopoly. Here are some that might apply:
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard Shaw
After we have calmly stood by and allowed monopolies to grow fat, we should not be asked to make them bloated. John Griffin Carlisle
We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels. Henry A. Wallace
Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards. Aldous Huxley
Big Brother is watching you. George Orwell
I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it. Ray Bradbury
Knowledge is power. Information is power. The secreting or hoarding of knowledge or information may be an act of tyranny camouflaged as humility. Robin Morgan
And here's my favorite:
If you can't make it good, at least make it look good. Bill Gates
In my opinion, this isn't actually censorship, but a rather effective anti-trolling measure.
Wikipedia is not a forum where everyone can post his opinion and let the user decide which one's right. It's an encyclopedia. If someone defaces it or uses it as a means to alter someone's reputation (for good or ill), it will lose credibility.
For one, this "control freak" measure can be used, for example, to prevent mad scientologists from removing negative remarks on their current leaders, or right-wing zealots from removing negative aspects of their favorite political candidate.
If your contribution is indeed impartial (remember we're only talking about living people entries), it WILL get accepted. Just not as fast as you'd want to, but it will.
Isn't this the best of both worlds? In fact, I'm tagging this story "abouttime".
> The secrets of the universe are not in what it does, or how it works; but who made it If "who made it" is a secret, how does one study it?
> If there is a God, then studying what He/She/It created > is of far lesser importance than studying God Himself.
Why is that? That's like saying that rather than studying Newton's Laws, we should just study Sir Isaac Newton.
Your logic is flawed. Sir Isaac Newton didn't INVENT Newton's Laws. He merely discovered them. Because Sir Isaac Newton was never ABOVE his "own" laws (unless he managed to levitate and never told anyone about it).
Could you explain the scientific reasons for not mixing meat and dairy?
I don't know, but that reminds me of the last time i mixed dairy and citrus fruits. Then I found myself praying in the "purgatory". Does that count as faith?
However, it is more likely that when the scientists get over the final rock (assuming there is one), the'll find no theologian there, because those all sit on those lower peaks where it is much easier to get to.
Or perhaps theologians are sitting on a balloon above, where the rope ladder is called faith.
That's because people who don't like ID change the argument to suit the circumstance. I.e. People use anything, even apparently contradicting arguments, to fight something they don't like.
And the prize for the most ambiguous and off-topic counter-argument goes to...
Yes because unjustly incarcerating a person is the same as murdering thousands of people in cold blood.
I would highly recommend that you pose rational and logical arguments, instead of emotionally based hyperbole if you want anyone to take you seriously.
it may not be the same, but it's evil, anyway. And it sets a precedent: Circumventing a copy protection device is now a criminal offense, even if you do it for fair use purposes. The law is completely wrong, it was lobbied by a monopoly, and helping enforce it is evil.
Since when was The Law supposed to benefit the rich?
The worst part is that if I wanted people to rebel against this unfair law, suddenly I'd legally become a conspirator.
No, he's being put away because he profitted helping people play pirated games.
No, he's being put away because he profitted helping people play BACKUP games (and pirated games as a side effect). Do you see how the DMCA is evil, now?
So much environmental stuff. Climate change, pollution, rampant deforestation etc... And here we are. Making books of websites.
Print N books, cut down N/x trees. Keep a website running for N days, burn y kilograms of carbon for each one of those N days. (Or do you think all that bandwidth and server/routers usage is pollution-free?)
We all pollute the environment. I just don't think printing books is the greatest form of pollution.
I'm wondering what would happen to compost heaps after some time with this bacteria. Will they be still useful for growing plants with them, or will they become "de-energized"?
There is NO FUCKING BENEFIT to the customer. EVER. Things are not cheaper, they are no easier to access - in fact the opposite is often true.
I can't agree totally with this. DRM makes content that would otherwise be unavailable in a digital format available, only because some companies refuse to license their content unless it is protected by DRM.
Your logic is terribly flawed. Let's make an analogy. "Oh, I refuse to give you food unless you become my slave". Would that make slavery good because it would give you food that would otherwise be unavailable to you?
My point is that you're praising DRM not because it is good in itself, but because you believe that it's necessary for companies to license content. Well, here's the news: It's NOT.
If you want to bend over to companies and say "Sure, I'll accept DRM just to read my favorite books on electronic format", you're practically giving away your money. What happens if a virus, or some hacker attack on DRM devices erases all your electronic books?
DRM has no benefit at all. It's a time bomb because it gives companies the means to do what they want to do with the books you have ALREADY purchased. It gives them money, and it jeopardizes your investment.
And when that happens, and you wonder whatever happened to the first sale doctrine, I'll be reading my paperback copy of 1984 while wondering what has become of the free world.
Farenheit 451 required a visionary. But I think that Bradbury simply lost his vision. It's not about the books. It's about the minds BEHIND the books.
What to say about sites like fictionpress.net? What about webcomics with a deep story? What about Anime music videos?
The internet is a primordial soup for art and culture. It doesn't matter if it's in the air, or the tubes, or whatever. People communicate with the internet. If the internet is a waste of time, that's because WE have turned it into a waste of time (mostly because media cartels are enforcing so many copyright policies that the internet is being stripped away from creativity world wide).
Oh, and by the way... by the way... I wonder what Bradbury would think of his books being available on thepiratebay.
The parent post may have been terribly rude, but I agree with the parent. I'll assume he was being sarcastic.
Anyway, I'm going to speak to those of you who want to indoctrinate people into using vim or emacs as if it was some kind of holy crusade.
The other day I began to read a science & technology magazine in the college I went to. There were a lot of things like instrumentation for earth sciences, translator software, and you know what? Most of them were built in Visual Basic.
Have you wondered why? Not because the language is good, but because the development environment allows you to create applications quickly without having to read a thousand manuals on how to compile.
And people busy with real problems don't have the time to "configure and set up these environment variables whatever". They want something that works FAST.
As for developer experience, here's something that happened in my last job: There were a bunch of vim/emacs fanatics out there. And there was this C/C++ project with a lot of buffer overrun problems.
So I did a recursive directory regex search using Code::Blocks. I copied and pasted the search results (all it took was a right click) and wrote a report. Why didn't they do that? Well, to do this the traditional "without IDE training wheels" way, they required to do a lot of command line stuff. And they were too busy "fixing bugs" using their l337 c0d3r 5k1llz so nobody even bothered.
IT'S ALL ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY, PEOPLE! It's not how "powerful" and "customizable" an editor can be (provided you have the time to learn over 9 thousand scripting commands and options), but how much time it can save you so you can do ACTUAL CODING. Same goes for the (insert your favorite linux image editor) fanatics. If you need to learn script-fu so you can do something that a commercial product does with just a right click, you're losing productivity time.
Not all development teams are scripting / shell experts. When a team needs to finish a project fast, standarizing the development tools is generally a good idea. Do you really want to standarize people into learning whatever macros and scripts you need to do a simple regex over all the project files? Are you INSANE???
The article poster did NOT ask for an editor, he asked for an IDE. Sheesh. You people act like if using an IDE would drain IQ points from you. Get over it!
A project that's not being updated doesn't have its bugs fixed. At first I thought Dev-C++ was a nice IDE, but when I tried Code::Blocks I realized that Dev-C++ was a rather poor IDE. I just became a Code::Blocks enthusiast. The latest versions have syntax highlighting even for scripting languages like PHP. You also can do debugging with GDB, search for declarations / implementations of a given function, add virtual directories...
Oh. Code::Blocks can import Visual Studio workspaces.
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I know the terms of the GPL and LGPL, thank you. I simply think it's unfair to make Riverbank look like the bad guys and Nokia the saviours.
Well, Trolltech insisted on not LGPL'ing their code, and therefore, requiring a commercial license to deliver Qt applications. This was very inconvenient for small business and independent developers, who had to resort to using other toolkits like wxWidgets (eew) or GTK (double eew). Do you know how painful it is to write GUI applications with GTK?
Nokia ARE heroes by allowing us to use Qt instead of GTK for proprietary applications (we have to pay the bills, youknow). Riverbank is becoming an obstacle to Python developers just as Trolltech was for C++ developers. In my eyes, they're nothing but a bunch of greedy bastards.
Translation:
Dear District Court: We made a shitload of money by making a contract with Microsoft. With your Word injunction we'll have to spend a little of that shitload of money to fulfill your requirements, and we don't like that.
Sincerely,
Dell.
Translation of the translation:
Dear District Court: We made a shitload of money by making a contract with Dell, and we're sick tired of you banning our products. So we're asking Dell to tell you some bullshit so you can stop fucking with us.
Sincerely,
Microsoft.
A large percentage of the populace thinks they run the best, most secure OS in the world
Most people think they're runing Linux? Oh, wait...
The parent poster is referring to Mac OS, which was derived from FreeBSD - which had a daemon as a mascot. This should be insightful or interesting instead of offtopic.
I like that quote. It doesn't work in the computer context, though, because from the perspective of functionality and quality, Linux users are the most famished of any individuals doing computing these days.
You're right, the quote doesn't work at all in the context of computer monopoly. Here are some that might apply:
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.
George Bernard Shaw
After we have calmly stood by and allowed monopolies to grow fat, we should not be asked to make them bloated.
John Griffin Carlisle
We must not tolerate oppressive government or industrial oligarchy in the form of monopolies and cartels.
Henry A. Wallace
Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards.
Aldous Huxley
Big Brother is watching you.
George Orwell
I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it.
Ray Bradbury
Knowledge is power. Information is power. The secreting or hoarding of knowledge or information may be an act of tyranny camouflaged as humility.
Robin Morgan
And here's my favorite:
If you can't make it good, at least make it look good.
Bill Gates
One thing is spreading FUD. A very different thing is spreading the truth in a blatantly sensationalist manner.
In other words, Windows is bona fide crippleware.
Can that be modded redundant? :P
In my opinion, this isn't actually censorship, but a rather effective anti-trolling measure.
Wikipedia is not a forum where everyone can post his opinion and let the user decide which one's right. It's an encyclopedia. If someone defaces it or uses it as a means to alter someone's reputation (for good or ill), it will lose credibility.
For one, this "control freak" measure can be used, for example, to prevent mad scientologists from removing negative remarks on their current leaders, or right-wing zealots from removing negative aspects of their favorite political candidate.
If your contribution is indeed impartial (remember we're only talking about living people entries), it WILL get accepted. Just not as fast as you'd want to, but it will.
Isn't this the best of both worlds? In fact, I'm tagging this story "abouttime".
> The secrets of the universe are not in what it does, or how it works; but who made it
If "who made it" is a secret, how does one study it?
> If there is a God, then studying what He/She/It created
> is of far lesser importance than studying God Himself.
Why is that? That's like saying that rather than studying Newton's Laws, we should just study Sir Isaac Newton.
Your logic is flawed. Sir Isaac Newton didn't INVENT Newton's Laws. He merely discovered them. Because Sir Isaac Newton was never ABOVE his "own" laws (unless he managed to levitate and never told anyone about it).
Could you explain the scientific reasons for not mixing meat and dairy?
I don't know, but that reminds me of the last time i mixed dairy and citrus fruits. Then I found myself praying in the "purgatory". Does that count as faith?
However, it is more likely that when the scientists get over the final rock (assuming there is one), the'll find no theologian there, because those all sit on those lower peaks where it is much easier to get to.
Or perhaps theologians are sitting on a balloon above, where the rope ladder is called faith.
Gravity sucks.
It always lets us down
Ergo, Gravity != Rick Astley.
That's because people who don't like ID change the argument to suit the circumstance. I.e. People use anything, even apparently contradicting arguments, to fight something they don't like.
And the prize for the most ambiguous and off-topic counter-argument goes to...
Yes because unjustly incarcerating a person is the same as murdering thousands of people in cold blood.
I would highly recommend that you pose rational and logical arguments, instead of emotionally based hyperbole if you want anyone to take you seriously.
it may not be the same, but it's evil, anyway. And it sets a precedent: Circumventing a copy protection device is now a criminal offense, even if you do it for fair use purposes. The law is completely wrong, it was lobbied by a monopoly, and helping enforce it is evil.
Since when was The Law supposed to benefit the rich?
The worst part is that if I wanted people to rebel against this unfair law, suddenly I'd legally become a conspirator.
No, he's being put away because he profitted helping people play pirated games.
No, he's being put away because he profitted helping people play BACKUP games (and pirated games as a side effect). Do you see how the DMCA is evil, now?
Or you could just, you know, visit the website.
So much environmental stuff. Climate change, pollution, rampant deforestation etc... And here we are. Making books of websites.
Print N books, cut down N/x trees. Keep a website running for N days, burn y kilograms of carbon for each one of those N days. (Or do you think all that bandwidth and server/routers usage is pollution-free?)
We all pollute the environment. I just don't think printing books is the greatest form of pollution.
I'm wondering what would happen to compost heaps after some time with this bacteria. Will they be still useful for growing plants with them, or will they become "de-energized"?
Are you saying that Word is not a good text processor?
If so, would you care to support that assertion?
Sure! Word is an evil text processor. good != evil, therefore, Q.E.D.
Amazing how someone who dwells underground was modded as "troll". Now all you need is a bridge :D
There is NO FUCKING BENEFIT to the customer. EVER. Things are not cheaper, they are no easier to access - in fact the opposite is often true.
I can't agree totally with this. DRM makes content that would otherwise be unavailable in a digital format available, only because some companies refuse to license their content unless it is protected by DRM.
Your logic is terribly flawed. Let's make an analogy. "Oh, I refuse to give you food unless you become my slave". Would that make slavery good because it would give you food that would otherwise be unavailable to you?
My point is that you're praising DRM not because it is good in itself, but because you believe that it's necessary for companies to license content. Well, here's the news: It's NOT.
If you want to bend over to companies and say "Sure, I'll accept DRM just to read my favorite books on electronic format", you're practically giving away your money. What happens if a virus, or some hacker attack on DRM devices erases all your electronic books?
DRM has no benefit at all. It's a time bomb because it gives companies the means to do what they want to do with the books you have ALREADY purchased. It gives them money, and it jeopardizes your investment.
And when that happens, and you wonder whatever happened to the first sale doctrine, I'll be reading my paperback copy of 1984 while wondering what has become of the free world.
Here's a simple but expensive formula:
1. Get the image
2. Compress it severely.
3. Compare the difference between original and the compressed.
The lower the difference, the lower the image quality.
4. Profit!
Or you could just measure the amount of data in the DCT space. Duh.
Because everyone will have to be using 3d glasses.
Unless you make the 3d glasses somewhat invisible to the 3D camera and... ow my head!!
Farenheit 451 required a visionary. But I think that Bradbury simply lost his vision. It's not about the books. It's about the minds BEHIND the books.
What to say about sites like fictionpress.net? What about webcomics with a deep story? What about Anime music videos?
The internet is a primordial soup for art and culture. It doesn't matter if it's in the air, or the tubes, or whatever. People communicate with the internet. If the internet is a waste of time, that's because WE have turned it into a waste of time (mostly because media cartels are enforcing so many copyright policies that the internet is being stripped away from creativity world wide).
Oh, and by the way... by the way... I wonder what Bradbury would think of his books being available on thepiratebay.
http://thepiratebay.org/search/ray+bradbury/0/99/0
Not real anymore? Ray, I used to admire you, but you're losing touch with reality.
The parent post may have been terribly rude, but I agree with the parent. I'll assume he was being sarcastic.
Anyway, I'm going to speak to those of you who want to indoctrinate people into using vim or emacs as if it was some kind of holy crusade.
The other day I began to read a science & technology magazine in the college I went to. There were a lot of things like instrumentation for earth sciences, translator software, and you know what? Most of them were built in Visual Basic.
Have you wondered why? Not because the language is good, but because the development environment allows you to create applications quickly without having to read a thousand manuals on how to compile.
And people busy with real problems don't have the time to "configure and set up these environment variables whatever". They want something that works FAST.
As for developer experience, here's something that happened in my last job: There were a bunch of vim/emacs fanatics out there. And there was this C/C++ project with a lot of buffer overrun problems.
So I did a recursive directory regex search using Code::Blocks. I copied and pasted the search results (all it took was a right click) and wrote a report. Why didn't they do that? Well, to do this the traditional "without IDE training wheels" way, they required to do a lot of command line stuff. And they were too busy "fixing bugs" using their l337 c0d3r 5k1llz so nobody even bothered.
IT'S ALL ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY, PEOPLE! It's not how "powerful" and "customizable" an editor can be (provided you have the time to learn over 9 thousand scripting commands and options), but how much time it can save you so you can do ACTUAL CODING. Same goes for the (insert your favorite linux image editor) fanatics. If you need to learn script-fu so you can do something that a commercial product does with just a right click, you're losing productivity time.
Not all development teams are scripting / shell experts. When a team needs to finish a project fast, standarizing the development tools is generally a good idea. Do you really want to standarize people into learning whatever macros and scripts you need to do a simple regex over all the project files? Are you INSANE???
The article poster did NOT ask for an editor, he asked for an IDE. Sheesh. You people act like if using an IDE would drain IQ points from you. Get over it!
A project that's not being updated doesn't have its bugs fixed. At first I thought Dev-C++ was a nice IDE, but when I tried Code::Blocks I realized that Dev-C++ was a rather poor IDE. I just became a Code::Blocks enthusiast. The latest versions have syntax highlighting even for scripting languages like PHP. You also can do debugging with GDB, search for declarations / implementations of a given function, add virtual directories...
Oh. Code::Blocks can import Visual Studio workspaces.