Thanks, but Linux is just too complicated. I'd rather just have a simple web-based admin on a dumb router that. I haven't run across one (yet) that won't let me just disable the wireless entirely, which is what I always end up doing.
Oh, you're right. I've already seen that. For some reason, my business-class DSL modem/router that I "have" to use (according to Ma Bell), has a WAP integrated into it. I learned that lesson really early, and disabled it.
When is wireless not going to suck? Seriously. I don't use it because of absolutely rotten reliability. Inconsistent speed, and intermittent connections are a rotten tradeoff for being able to save a few wires here and there.
How about instead of spending time writing software the handles all of the bugs/crashes better, actually FIXING the damn bugs? I don't understand why this relatively slow-moving codebase is still so riddled with bugs. If not for Adblock, I'd be using IE!
I didn't say that. I'm only saying that representatives of evo have made some inexcusable mistakes that melts trust.
Anyone who knows the tiniest bit about science and the scientific method knows that mistakes are made, theories are revised, etc. Anybody who points to a scientific error or a theory that was later proven wrong or updated and screams, "SEE? SCIENCE IS WRONG!" is a waste of skin. "Trust" doesn't even enter in to it.
Competition fosters innovation. If M$ gets rid of the competition, they will have no innovation.
Well then, maybe the competition should start competing, don't 'cha think? Considering the "competition" can't even give their products away for free, I gotta think that the problem is with the competition, itself, not MS.
Just for my own personal enjoyment, I'd love to see more pictures of the kinds of low-IQ folk who go to this ridiculous thing. I don't get to interact with people like this very often, but I'd like to know what to look for (other than the obvious "Jesus" paraphernalia) so I can recognize these people in public and steer clear of them. It's a guilty pleasure, I know.
What you have here is people who are deliberately spreading ignorance. They are actively attempting to undermine science and facts with complete and utter bullshit. I don't think that you're wrong for feeling how you feel about this. Science and reason consistently improves the lives of all people, and ignorance and superstition consistently leads to hate, intolerance and fear. Personally, I think that we, as a somewhat intelligent people striving towards better understanding of the world around us should denounce this project as the bullshit that it is.
You're talking about not stooping to their level of intolerance, and I understand that. However, some troglodytes (such as the people who started this "museum") are simply too dumb to be reasoned with.
I won't have to battle against the hippie-chick mac users in the coffee shop for one of the tables next to one of the three electrical outlets in the joint!
Are you retarded? Seriously, are you retarded? You want LESS reason to interact with hip coffee shop girls who also happen to have enough cash to buy a Mac? And geeks wonder why they never get laid.... sheesh!
How about changing the screen resolution? Windows: Right click on desktop, properties, blah. Linux: Edit some obscure text file hidden away in the file system.
So then, what's the advantage if you don't have any security problems with Windows? The joy of figuring out how to use a computer all over again? The excitement of finding shoddy knock-offs of the programs that you're used to on the Windows side? The thrill of having to hire very expensive admins to handle stuff that anybody can do in Windows? With each Windows release, Linux seems more and more pointless.
I'm always surprised to hear about people who still pay for cable TV. I only know a handful of people who pay for TV. The rest either download the bits here and there that they want to see (commercial-free, of course), rent the DVD, or just don't bother with any TV programming at all (most people I know fall in this category). Cable TV has always seemed strange to me. You're essentially *paying* to watch advertisements, with a bit of bad programming in between. If I want crappy programming, either I'll pay for it, and (enjoy?) it with no ads, or I'll watch a free ad-supported version (rabbit ears). Paying to watch advertisements seems beyond stupid, to me. Nobody would pay to read a web site that was full of ads, but people have been doing that with TV for decades, now.
Anyone else want to bet that the iPhone from Apple blows away this device from High Tech in the asthetics and user interface categories?
Yeah, so what? It's designed for "Business users" meaning that aesthetics are going to probably be skimped on in exchange for functionality. Personally, I think that if your cell phone appearance is that important to you, then you probably have some personal issues that may need professional help.
Well, you're right. Of course, it used to be cool. So did televisions when they first came out. Now you can pick up TV's at the thrift store for $10. That doesn't mean that TV manufacturers have gone out of business. Windows is just not exciting anymore. It's a commodity. There's really little reason to use anything else for most general PC usage. Do you know the brand of refrigerant used in your refrigerator? Do you care? It's kinda' like that at this point.
All I see coming out of the Linux world are multi-million dollar applications that require a team of PHD's to set up, and cheap, barely usable knock-offs at the low end. Right now, there aren't any real choices between GNUCash, which is only marginally better than a piece of paper and a pencil, and SAS. That's my point. There's a lot of need for an entire spectrum of applications that fall between rudimentary and Fortune 500 quality. There's little to nothing that's actually available. I should know. I've looked extensively. As a result, I spend many thousands of dollars a year on proprietary, Windows-only software.
Please, please let me know where you got the crack you're smoking.
XP is six years old... don't you think there's demand for new computers?
No, not really. Unlike Linux, (I'm saying this because you're obviously a fanboy), 6 years ago, XP was pretty much a mature, functioning OS. Linux is still playing catch-up, hence the need for constant software updating. Believe it or not, no, there is NOT a good reason to upgrade to Vista for most people. XP works just fine. But, when I (and everybody else) buys new PC's, they'll come with Vista, and that'll be just fine, too.
Unlike the Windoze time of the month, free software upgrades make things better.
Yeah, assuming you don't have anything better to do with all of that time spent "upgrading".
2007 is the year of Linux.
Suuuure, it is. Just like 1997 was. And 1998. And 1999. And 2000. And 2001... Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it.
If you haven't tried Linux yet, plug in Ubuntu, its like Windows only free, and the software is free and it comes with everything and works on more hardware than Vista!
Can I buy a point of sale system for it that is functional? Can I find a real financial package to buy for it? Sorry, it doesn't "come with everything", and it's nothing like Windows.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Vista is not selling.
It's selling 95% as fast as new PC's are. In the PC world, people tend to just use the OS until it's time to scrap the machine. Apple people upgrade OS's every year or so because they have money to burn and Linux people upgrade seeming daily... actually, I don't know why. Vista is being sold on 95% of all new PC's like always. Vista will be just as successful as Windows XP has been.
But are people running out to buy the new OS for no particular reason? No. Why would they?
Well, there certainly can be, but most people don't have anywhere near the technical expertise to do that. On top of that, it's hard for brick and mortar to compete because of... oh I dunno... sales tax!
I don't think that it's as regressive as you think. Everybody I know lives at or beyond their means. Poor people tend to spend 100% of their income, but so do middle-class and wealthy people (hence, negative savings rates across the US). Sales tax DOES reward people who save, not that I know anybody who does.
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Thanks, but Linux is just too complicated. I'd rather just have a simple web-based admin on a dumb router that. I haven't run across one (yet) that won't let me just disable the wireless entirely, which is what I always end up doing.
Oh, you're right. I've already seen that. For some reason, my business-class DSL modem/router that I "have" to use (according to Ma Bell), has a WAP integrated into it. I learned that lesson really early, and disabled it.
When is wireless not going to suck? Seriously. I don't use it because of absolutely rotten reliability. Inconsistent speed, and intermittent connections are a rotten tradeoff for being able to save a few wires here and there.
How about instead of spending time writing software the handles all of the bugs/crashes better, actually FIXING the damn bugs? I don't understand why this relatively slow-moving codebase is still so riddled with bugs. If not for Adblock, I'd be using IE!
I didn't say that. I'm only saying that representatives of evo have made some inexcusable mistakes that melts trust.
Anyone who knows the tiniest bit about science and the scientific method knows that mistakes are made, theories are revised, etc. Anybody who points to a scientific error or a theory that was later proven wrong or updated and screams, "SEE? SCIENCE IS WRONG!" is a waste of skin. "Trust" doesn't even enter in to it.
Competition fosters innovation. If M$ gets rid of the competition, they will have no innovation.
Well then, maybe the competition should start competing, don't 'cha think? Considering the "competition" can't even give their products away for free, I gotta think that the problem is with the competition, itself, not MS.
Yeah, well, I'm sure that he's laughing all the way to the bank.
There are at least 2 sides to everything.
No, there are not. There are not two sides to facts. Facts have exactly one side. That's what a fact is.
Just for my own personal enjoyment, I'd love to see more pictures of the kinds of low-IQ folk who go to this ridiculous thing. I don't get to interact with people like this very often, but I'd like to know what to look for (other than the obvious "Jesus" paraphernalia) so I can recognize these people in public and steer clear of them. It's a guilty pleasure, I know.
What you have here is people who are deliberately spreading ignorance. They are actively attempting to undermine science and facts with complete and utter bullshit. I don't think that you're wrong for feeling how you feel about this. Science and reason consistently improves the lives of all people, and ignorance and superstition consistently leads to hate, intolerance and fear. Personally, I think that we, as a somewhat intelligent people striving towards better understanding of the world around us should denounce this project as the bullshit that it is.
You're talking about not stooping to their level of intolerance, and I understand that. However, some troglodytes (such as the people who started this "museum") are simply too dumb to be reasoned with.
more people will understand that software itself has no intrinsic value.
Speak for yourself. The code I write is quite valuable to me.
I won't have to battle against the hippie-chick mac users in the coffee shop for one of the tables next to one of the three electrical outlets in the joint!
Are you retarded? Seriously, are you retarded? You want LESS reason to interact with hip coffee shop girls who also happen to have enough cash to buy a Mac? And geeks wonder why they never get laid.... sheesh!
How about changing the screen resolution? Windows: Right click on desktop, properties, blah. Linux: Edit some obscure text file hidden away in the file system.
/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
Wow, that's both complicated and unintuitive. I mean, what do they really mean by "stop"?
"Stop" isn't complicated, but wtf is "etc", "init.d" and apache2? That command is most definitely complicated and unintuitive.
So then, what's the advantage if you don't have any security problems with Windows? The joy of figuring out how to use a computer all over again? The excitement of finding shoddy knock-offs of the programs that you're used to on the Windows side? The thrill of having to hire very expensive admins to handle stuff that anybody can do in Windows? With each Windows release, Linux seems more and more pointless.
I'm always surprised to hear about people who still pay for cable TV. I only know a handful of people who pay for TV. The rest either download the bits here and there that they want to see (commercial-free, of course), rent the DVD, or just don't bother with any TV programming at all (most people I know fall in this category). Cable TV has always seemed strange to me. You're essentially *paying* to watch advertisements, with a bit of bad programming in between. If I want crappy programming, either I'll pay for it, and (enjoy?) it with no ads, or I'll watch a free ad-supported version (rabbit ears). Paying to watch advertisements seems beyond stupid, to me. Nobody would pay to read a web site that was full of ads, but people have been doing that with TV for decades, now.
Anyone else want to bet that the iPhone from Apple blows away this device from High Tech in the asthetics and user interface categories?
Yeah, so what? It's designed for "Business users" meaning that aesthetics are going to probably be skimped on in exchange for functionality. Personally, I think that if your cell phone appearance is that important to you, then you probably have some personal issues that may need professional help.
Maybe if stores stopped cutting out the hardcore clients for the easy buck here and there they wouldn't lose out to online shoppers
Maybe if you went somewhere other than giant international conglomerates' chain stores, then you'd find some good products and service.
Well, you're right. Of course, it used to be cool. So did televisions when they first came out. Now you can pick up TV's at the thrift store for $10. That doesn't mean that TV manufacturers have gone out of business. Windows is just not exciting anymore. It's a commodity. There's really little reason to use anything else for most general PC usage. Do you know the brand of refrigerant used in your refrigerator? Do you care? It's kinda' like that at this point.
All I see coming out of the Linux world are multi-million dollar applications that require a team of PHD's to set up, and cheap, barely usable knock-offs at the low end. Right now, there aren't any real choices between GNUCash, which is only marginally better than a piece of paper and a pencil, and SAS. That's my point. There's a lot of need for an entire spectrum of applications that fall between rudimentary and Fortune 500 quality. There's little to nothing that's actually available. I should know. I've looked extensively. As a result, I spend many thousands of dollars a year on proprietary, Windows-only software.
Please, please let me know where you got the crack you're smoking.
... don't you think there's demand for new computers?
XP is six years old
No, not really. Unlike Linux, (I'm saying this because you're obviously a fanboy), 6 years ago, XP was pretty much a mature, functioning OS. Linux is still playing catch-up, hence the need for constant software updating. Believe it or not, no, there is NOT a good reason to upgrade to Vista for most people. XP works just fine. But, when I (and everybody else) buys new PC's, they'll come with Vista, and that'll be just fine, too.
Unlike the Windoze time of the month, free software upgrades make things better.
Yeah, assuming you don't have anything better to do with all of that time spent "upgrading".
2007 is the year of Linux.
Suuuure, it is. Just like 1997 was. And 1998. And 1999. And 2000. And 2001... Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it.
If you haven't tried Linux yet, plug in Ubuntu, its like Windows only free, and the software is free and it comes with everything and works on more hardware than Vista!
Can I buy a point of sale system for it that is functional? Can I find a real financial package to buy for it? Sorry, it doesn't "come with everything", and it's nothing like Windows.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Vista is not selling.
It's selling 95% as fast as new PC's are. In the PC world, people tend to just use the OS until it's time to scrap the machine. Apple people upgrade OS's every year or so because they have money to burn and Linux people upgrade seeming daily... actually, I don't know why. Vista is being sold on 95% of all new PC's like always. Vista will be just as successful as Windows XP has been.
But are people running out to buy the new OS for no particular reason? No. Why would they?
Again, why can't there local online shops?
Well, there certainly can be, but most people don't have anywhere near the technical expertise to do that. On top of that, it's hard for brick and mortar to compete because of... oh I dunno... sales tax!
I don't think that it's as regressive as you think. Everybody I know lives at or beyond their means. Poor people tend to spend 100% of their income, but so do middle-class and wealthy people (hence, negative savings rates across the US). Sales tax DOES reward people who save, not that I know anybody who does.