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Watching My Neighbors Watch On-Demand TV
Josh Levin, Slate Magazine writes "I have a magical box that allows me to watch other people watch TV — their movies, their sports, their cartoons, and their hour-long procedural dramas. And sometimes, usually around 11:30 on Friday nights, their soft-core pornography... I solved the mystery by consulting online message boards. At techie sites like AVS Forum, other voyeurs described their adventures in freeloading. I was intercepting video-on-demand channels through the power of my Samsung's QAM tuner."
mmmm..... magic
...he's only watching what they're watching...
Yeah, between childrens tv shows and softcore porn there isn't much that interesting, except that when they watch the nudity scene in a movie and then replay it 5-8 times.
Watching what other people watch can be fun.
I use stumble video and will often check out what my friends have watched recently, but the real interesting videos are to be found within the logs of random users.
People find and like the strangest things.
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What truth?
There is no dupe
n/t.
Why does anyone care?
I have the lesser model of that device called binoculars lol ;) but hey don't yell at me, my neighbors are WEIRD! I gotta keep an eye on them lol.
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As I read the summary on the front page, what should be the fortune in one of the boxes on the right?
What PROGRAM are they watching?
What program indeed?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
You're a genius Mr Durden.
I have the same thing going on with my TV. At first you think, "Wow! Free VOD!" but then you realize you have no clue when a show starts, no way to unpause if the real viewer gets a phone call or goes to the bathroom, and well... it's pointless. You end up flipping through a good 50 channels for hours having literally no clue what shows are on and no clue if that person will finish them.
It sounds neat but it's rather boring and partially stinks since you have to manually program those channels out. I mentioned this happening when the cable guy stopped buy and he seemed pretty "meh" about it.
Channels 97, 100, 115 seem to be the on-demand channels in my area.
I was showing off the ability to intercept on-demand programming to some of my friends the other day and we happened to come across some of the softcore porn being fast forwarded through. Curious to see what they were fast forwarding to, we watched for a little bit... the person fast forwarded to a dialog interlude. Our curiosity piqued, we watched a little more and noticed that as soon as the actual intercourse portion of the movie started, they fast forwarded to the next scene that included dialog.
Could we have found the only person in the world who reads playboy for the articles?
Ya know, Softcore is actually sexier, as in, more of a "turn on" than the hardcore stuff. The hardcore stuff comes across as more anatomical than anything - at least in my advancing age.
I said "cums" ...huh, huh, huh....
OK, I'm not too advanced in mental age because I still think of "Beavis and Butthead"...I said "Butt"...huh, huh, huh...heh.....heh...heh....
I prefer Flambe as apposed flamebait.
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Creepy much?
"People find and like the strangest things."
Surfing Slashdot.
It doesn't take a techie. Heck, a suggestion like "just plug the cable in" in a world of proprietary cable boxes, encryption, DRM, a half-dozen compression and modulation schemes, cablecards, various incompatible resolutions, framerates, and interlacing schemes along with all of their associated digital and analog audio and video interconnection formats... is at best a long shot.
Unless you have one of the LCDs with an undocumented QAM tuner and a cable company broadcasting PPV on unencrypted QAM channels, what are the odds that plugging the cable in would get you anything beyond analog channels in the first place?
Heck, it surprised me. I get HD cable with no box, including my neighbors' PPV and some bizarre channels that appear to be fragments and scaled images for use on the menu system of some sort of cable box.
One could route the output of the tuner into a DVR, record it, and then use the DVR to buffer and skip the VOD signal.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
It's probably just as legal as using a randomly available wifi signal...
Privacy is terrorism.
My parents in Annapolis (writer mentions DC-Baltimore) have a similar occurrence. They also pay for basic cable and are able to plug the line straight in to their tv's digital/hd tuner to grab the digital signal. They also receive channels that I chalked up to being PPV, and some of them show smut too. The odd thing is that sometimes they can watch a movie all the way through, and other times they will loose the signal in the middle, almost as if some one realized they were watching a movie they weren't supposed to get and flipped a switch to turn it off. Sometimes they can change the channel then come back to watch it again, other times they can have the signal then change the channel and come back to find that the program is gone. It's very strange and only happens on one of the two tvs (different brand, model, and year) that they have hooked up this way. I guess this article explains what is really going on.
I double checked, and no, Josh Levin is not a pen-name that my dad uses, so it looks like this is pretty common.
Watching what other people watch can be fun.
It's even more entertaining to hear these TV peeping tom's tell stories at the water cooler on how they watched the TV shows of their neighbours.
Talk about making the phrase "get a life" have serious meaning.
Thanks to my MDP-130 QAM tuner and Comcast! I'd also like to thank my neighbors and their love of soft-core porn.
Imagine sitting alone on a Friday night, no girlfriend in sight, flipping through the channels, running dead up against a soft-core channel, looking wildly left and right irrespective of loneliness, yanking at the wanker furiously hoping there is time, and then being beaten by the creep next door who started early and staring at Ma Bush staring back at you from CNN.
Having a program randomly fast forward and go back and repeat parts sounds like watching TV when my wife has the remote. Except for the porn part.
No thanks, already got some.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Yea, I don't have 50 PVRs. Might as well pay for the content at that point.
No. This is the same thing as giving someone else the remote. Unless you have the same interests, that person is just going to watch crap that you don't care about. You might as well set the remote to randomly change channels. You'd probably end up watching more shows that actually interest you.
It's not exactly the same thing, but close enough. All it would take is a prick DA and an idiot judge. Neither are in short supply.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
It's probably a lonely pizza guy who sympathizes with the main character and wants to hear how things play out, not caring about the more *ahem* physical matters in the show.
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I'm on Charter and I use to get 3-12 VOD that others were watching. Then one day they just switched it off. I guess they figured it out and stopped streaming it in the clear.
It's not a secret. It's useless information. Given the reaction to many of the same kinds of infractions lately though, poor John Levine will be sent to Guantanamo for the next five years. Mr. Levine's article is to the movie business what the Boston Strangler is to the single woman alone at night - he's a traitor who's violated the DMCA and allowed people unauthorized access to .... utter crap. He'll be lucky if they don't just shoot him.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
I wonder if the author realizes that all of the over the air HDTV stations are broadcast on UHF frequencies so you need only a standard UHF attenna. Those are the loop kind or occasionally they enclose the loop in a rectangular thing. You can fold the rabbit ears down because you don't need them at all.
Still, this is interesting. I might think about running a cable feed to the tuner and see what happens. I went with OTA in the first place because the cable company wasn't carrying the local NBC and FOX stations in HD but now they are. Never even dreamed I'd get the occasional free VOD stuff.
We you got something good, keep your yap shut.
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My wife even bought me a subscription. Which I let lapse when we had children.
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Unfortunately for the O.P. the DMCA will rule his watching of unencrypted video feeds a violation, because he is circumventing a protection mechanism.
The DMCA and it's supporters have shown time and time again that it does not matter how lame and technically incompetent a protection measure is, it merely has to be 'broken' to incur the wrath of the law. Publishing the technical details is probably instant guilt in terms of 'trafficking in circumvention technology' or whatever the legalese is.
The early analogue cable TV transmission systems in the UK used to transmit premium channels unencrypted (and then moved to using some fairly trivial to counter sync-mangling) which simply required a tuner that could see outside of the usual UHF 21-68 band to view. While the frequencies used on the actual cable networks were sufficiently out-of-range of normal 'terrestrial' channels, the company actually supplied an add-on box clamped to the back of the cable receiver which would downshift all of the cable channels so that the normal 'terrestrial' channels carried on the cable service were tunable by 'normal' TV's. If the TV had a tuner which could see outside the usual UK 21-68 band (Channel 21 is 471.25MHz, 68 is 847.25MHz) then the channels are there for your viewing pleasure regardless of what the cable receiver thinks you are entitled to see.
All the article does is move this into the digital realm with QAM.
Minus several million points out of ten to comcast for not encrypting traffic here.
otherwise, it's old news.
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When I first moved to my apartment building, I plugged in my Sony LCD TV and got to watch other people's on-demand shows until I got my own cable service. I was able to watch about 3 movies this way. It was kinda funny, they ended up pausing the movie at the exact same time I needed to get up for a health break. Also watched some porn and it's fun/creepy watching other people's porn habits and how much porn they "need". Haha.
I was confused by this for a while when I would set the clear QAM tuner to scan the hundreds of channels for signal and occassionally it would find digital cable channels that i just couldn't identify -- random videos, movies, then the signal would be gone. I figured it was from the on-demand stuff, but I couldn't ever really guess as to how far from my apartment the vid was going to, which i was apparently intercepting...
About as likely.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
It's just a damned joke..
I know not everyone is like me...in fact, I think I am the only person exactly like me...at any rate, many (most?) people would NEVER give up the remote - but I in fact sometimes enjoy letting my wife or a friend take control.
Nonetheless, there are indeed some friends who may not touch the remote - I will not allow it!
the whole stumble thing is basically directed randomness, I choose interests and then I hit a button. Viola! a random video starts to play, except in this case it is a random video within a specific scope defined by me.
These randomly intercepted channels are definitely not limited by a scope, so I would side with you in that it is like letting a stranger surf with your remote - that could get quite annoying.
Nevertheless, there is a certain charm to randomness, so long as it is not complete noise.
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For watching unencrypted digital cable on a PC, take a look at the HDHomeRun:n
t -hdhomerun-qam-tuner-review.html 2 47
http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/products/hdhomeru
Two tuners, works with MCE (2005, Vista, x86, x64), BeyondTV, SageTV, etc.
Linux - works with MythTV and VLC.
Mac support is rumored to be soon.
http://brentevans.blogspot.com/2007/03/silicondus
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/18/1531
it's a damn tired and old joke.
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In the UK the older Sky boxes were notorious for offering your current viewing to neighbours - only this was simple RF leaking from the rear. Careful placement with a small aerial and you could get a half-decent picture. This meant you could watch your neighbour flicking through the channels, usually quite rapidly until boobies appeared, at which point he of course rolled back a few times in order to check out the action.
My local cable system's video on demand does not go over the wire in the clear. (Time Warner)
I'm not sure if it's just encrypted or if it's done over a packet-switched channel (DOCSIS) instead, although there is mention of VOD IP addresses in the diagnostic menus.
I'm always surprised to hear about people who still pay for cable TV. I only know a handful of people who pay for TV. The rest either download the bits here and there that they want to see (commercial-free, of course), rent the DVD, or just don't bother with any TV programming at all (most people I know fall in this category). Cable TV has always seemed strange to me. You're essentially *paying* to watch advertisements, with a bit of bad programming in between. If I want crappy programming, either I'll pay for it, and (enjoy?) it with no ads, or I'll watch a free ad-supported version (rabbit ears). Paying to watch advertisements seems beyond stupid, to me. Nobody would pay to read a web site that was full of ads, but people have been doing that with TV for decades, now.
I don't respond to AC's.
Now I would be really pleased if my cable provider could sell/rent me a CableCard, but I'm stuck with using their dreaded SciAtlanta decoder.
In Soviet Russia, TV watches YOU!
Uh, no it's not "close enough". Cable systems are a closed system. WiFi isn't.
I read this article on Slate an hour before it hit Slashdot...and I'm still amazed that Comcast is doing this. Most cable providers encrypt ALL premium services, including the one at which I am employed. Our company does not offer VOD yet, however our digital pay-per-view works in the same manner VOD would, albeit one-way.
For those outside the cable world, digital signals are transmitted in the same freqencies analog channels are trnasmitted, in a digital format (obviously). QAM is nothing more complicated than a discrete amplitude-modulated analog level being using to encode information as data within that 6 MHz (in the US) bandwidth. Within that QAM constellation, encryption is possible. Think of it as a public key. When your Cablecard/DCT/settop box is authorized for that particular service, the headend controller unit (typically a DAC) sends the corresponding information for that box to decode those channels. Think of that as the private key. Put the two together, and you get information on screen in living color. Channels transmitted in the clear in QAM format need only a QAM tuner in a receiving device. In addition, even though you may only be paying for mini-basic or expanded basic, the full RF spectrum of that provider is probably coming down the wire. Unless they use traps or filters at every install (an increasingly uncommon practice) you're getting every channel as I speak...just maybe not in a format you can easily access.
However, what Comcast appears to be doing is sending the premium content in the clear as soon as it is ordered. Since all customers on a run feed off the same feeder/trunk/node hierarchy, Comcast's fiber transmitters apparently send that information in the clear to the closest active device with a direct link to the headend: the node. Each subscriber on the forward path in that node is then getting those digital signals in the clear. WHY?? Is it really that hard to do VOD with end-to-end encryption? Probably not. This is nothing more than security through obscurity. My guess from industry experience is that the amount of revenue lost to "stolen" VOD is minimal compared to the expense of more robust security.
To those who claim that he could go to jail for cable theft, keep in mind that cable operators are responsible for their own security. If they are transmitting in the clear...It's Comcast's issue to resolve.
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Who would have thought it was possible to invent something more boring than watching TV. Of course... watching people as they watch TV. Genius!
/Mike
I think I just felt the world get a little dummer.
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This would only work if the cable system your in sends out the VOD unencrypted. Not all do since each town is independent of each other. ANYONE with a digital tuner plugged in to RF knew this. Now that this guy got his 5mins of fame on /. im sure the number of unencrypted VOD system is gona go WAY now. Great Job!
I have to return some videotapes...
Funny how the comcast spokesperson lies:
Cable encryption is done per channel, not per title. The problem is that Comcast's infrastructure is built on SeaChange, which is running Windows NT 4 (if I remember correctly). They just can't handle the load.
The other architectures (non-SeaChange) can handle encrypted VOD streams, but tend not to because the operator hasn't thought about it.
And lastly, encryption of VOD content is done by fiat from corporate - that's how the cable industry works. And that's exactly the kind of thing that corporate is for - to set systemwide policies like that.
Over 20 years ago with Scientific Atlanta cable boxes, you could turn the TV to channel 2 or 4(normally you use 3) and scan for channels. Often you would find the premium channels in full clarity. This only worked for a few years.
When I first got my HDTV, I had fun scanning the subchannels, and found the menu background channels for On-demand, but never watched anyone else's on-demand movies.
Perhaps I should re hook-up the coaxial to the TV and try it again. Does this work on Comcast?'
There is an excellent japanese cartoon's porn's (hentai anime) game named Kana Little Sister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kana:_Little_Sister . In particular, the storyline is so good that I skipped the porn part to find out what happen next to the heroine ASAP.
:-).
Although I play it a couple of time to find the different endings, I never watch the porn part because it takes too much time
We had this happen too with our cable connection. Back when we had high speed internet set up, comcast had to pull a filter from our line because it was interfering with our signal, I thought that this was the reason, not QAM...but I never bothered looking up if anyone else could do this too. Now years later, the old tv went out so upgraded to an HDTV, it was surprising when it detected 300 channels when we previously had 20.
The problem is when trying to watch what the neighbors are on-demanding, the channels are registering on a channel.other number, so you will get channel 25, 25.1, 25.3, etc... but when on demand users on the lower numbered dot channels turn off their signal, the channels collectively drop down. So one second you could be watching a Disney movie, the next could be a Debbie Does... movie, so it is certainly something to use at your own risk if there are kids around.
I don't see anything wrong with watching these channels either. If the cable company screwed up and didn't configure my connection correctly is it my fault that they made a mistake that let me do this? I'm not going to go out of my way to let them know so they can fix it, it has saved on movie rental over the last few months. I usually stick to conventional programming that I can predict what is on and play in the "naughty channels" only when there isn't anything else worth watching on.
Yes I could see the porn viewing now with you..
....oooh a fuck scene *play*
Ahhh pizzaman...*lots of fast forwarding*
ahhh that was nice *more fast forwarding*
new scene but hotter chick so now I can settle down
*ahh damnit he finished before I could finish*
Total play time 6 minutes.
Dont you think it is kind of weird that you are watching the same exact thing that your neighbor next door is jacking off to. Why dont you guys just hold hands and have a circle jerkoff.
I worked a CATV salesperson/auditor.
:-) Their in-house employees are paid a lot less and have even less incentive to do a full signal audit, which is how you get caught.
If I caught you with receiving unauthorized signal, my job was to sell you the service and to physically cut cable as the last resort. We were not there to sue our customers unlike certain entities that end in AA. If you invited the police to waste my time, I would make your life hell since you'd be wasting 40 minutes of my time. I was still nice about it "Officer, now that you are here and you've verified my authority, I'd like to give this gentleman 2 minutes to make his decision to discontinue service. Sir, we can sign paperwork for service at the highest level and still extend your special offer to you, use my wirecutters to terminate the signal, or we can deal with this matter according to the law. You have 1 minute and 55 seconds remaining in your grace period. Which will it be?".
Now, I was a contractor getting highly paid. My effective rate was over $200/hr for working about 3 hours per day. It paid me a lot more to convert you than it was to cut your service.
Running into various insects (bees, wasps, spiders, scorpions...) and into large dogs at cable junction points is not worth the risk of doing a full signal audit.
So, the chances of you getting caught and prosecuted are astronomical. Only one guy pissed me off enough that I had him arrested. He apparently thought I was bluffing. We are talking about blatant theft of services with a 50' line of cable and causing signal distortion to his neighbor.
If you live in a high turnover apartment building, you can say "it was on when I moved in". We'll either persuade you to keep it, or cut it off. If it's a single family home, it costs a lot of money to audit these due to abovementioned hazards. I usually simply cut the cable at my 3rd walk-through and left them notes to call me if they were interested in subscribing to our services. While we are far more likely to audit an apartment building, the turnover gives you plausible deniability. Besides, it's probably the truth. Not many people have the technical skill to remove a filter on their cable line.
There are very few audit/sales outfits in the US. I worked for two of the largest of these for 1.5 years, so if anyone knocks on your doors, it's probably going to be someone who is a contractor wearing one of the shirts that I still have in my closet.
Enjoy the show... and take the special if you get caught. It's the best deal you'll see from anyone.
I have a theory that every TV show or movie out there is considered by at least one person in the world as the all time best. This can be backed up, albeit not proved, by browsing imdb message boards.
while [ 1 ]; do echo -n -e "\xe2\x95\xb$((($RANDOM&1)+1))"; done
Think about things like slash and yaoi, which have been getting increasingly popular for women. They range from soft- to hard-core, and while a lot of them go for the emotional side of sex and relationships, there's no shortage of just straight sex. Ok, so "straight" is probably the wrong word. Or 'Queer as Folk' - huge female audience, and that's not because they identify with the single pair of lesbians. It's not guys writing all that Sparrow/Norrington or Aragorn/Faramir fiction out there.
Frankly, as a woman my issue with actual porn in general is the same issue I have with movies in general. They're poorly made, the good ones are few and far-between. And frankly, if you're talking about limiting the misery, hardcore films at least have sex to break up the bad acting/lighting/costuming/etc. I'd have to disagree that hardcore sex is inherently violent - it's simply graphic. Maybe you're watching the wrong ones? =) Try looking for hardcore that is marketed to women... it tends to be better, all around. Especially if what you're wanting is something your wife/girlfriend/fling will watch with you.
I suppose the point I really want to make is that women are very much like men in that they're individuals. If you think you're going to "understand" women like they are some sort of weird single organism, it's just not going to happen. Interest yourself in the individual and you're more than half there.
~ Leilah
I actually experienced a similar "issue" after comcast "installed" their new service in my fiancee's home. We did not have the digital service coming to the house yet for some reason, but on the higher channels you were watching others on demand. The people in this neighborhood really liked pornography. The best part was when they would rewind over their "favorite" seen over and over. And the fast forward to the next BJ scene, and rewind that a few times. Too funny. I was sad when it left.
...a meta voyeur...!
then you MUST be from /.!
You need a girlfriend buddy.
Stamina - There I said it.
Self proclaimed wannabe geek. You know how it is. Most of us who read this stuff probably fit in that category.
Hmm.. I gotta check this out tonight.
except for that whole pesky felony business.
BitTorrent is my VOD.
I believe it was Ron Jeremy who gave two reasons for the cumshot:
1) To show that the guy actually did get off and didn't just stop. It's easy for a woman to fake, not so for the guy. For a guy it's either he did or he didn't. The cumshot proves it.
2) Safety. By pulling out and blowing his load, there is a much reduced chance of the woman getting pregnant even if they are using medications.
Take the above as you wish but those two reasons seem perfectly plausible.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
someone's getting off watching what other folks are doing. Used to be, not that long ago, folks like that were called perverts.
My response to this article is "Get a life, and leave mine alone".
My second response would be "what's the phone number for the nearest FBI Bureau cause I want these f*ckers locked up".
they can start a Playboy@home, Playboy@work, Playboy4dummies and a Playboy4kids.. great idea!
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It makes me afraid that somebody could be watching me while I'm watching what somebody else is watching.
They might think that I'm actually watching it when I'm just watching what they are watching. Honest!
1) To show that the guy actually did get off and didn't just stop.
Who actually cares? Nobody watching hetero porn is paying that much attention to the guy.
2) Safety. By pulling out and blowing his load, there is a much reduced chance of the woman getting pregnant
That doesn't mean you have to film it.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Comcast does not include the V-Chip encoding with these OnDemand shows. As a consequence, users who have set their TVs to not accept adult content do not have the control that Comcast touts in its advertising. I suspect that someone will sue in ... Five ... Four ... Three ...
The US government have made it clear that we have no inalienable rights; any we do not defend vigorously will be taken.
He said they've already got one!
Bah. "Damnation Alley" rules and you know it.
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Stupidity and disease are major turn-offs for me.
Porn performers are screened for diseases regularly to prevent disease from spreading within the profession.
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Yes, but the fictional characters they portray are not.
Porn takes place in an alternate universe where venereal disease and pregnancy don't exist. Also, everybody is willing to have sex with everybody else at a moment's notice. Also, everyone has enormous cocks and tits.
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And by the way, yes, I know full well you're trolling me. I guessed it from your earlier remarks about "fat chicks", but I doubt there's anyone who actually watches porn who are really so hung up that they can't enjoy a simple sexual fantasy without worrying about fictitious venereal diseases.
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Nope, not trolling. When I watch porn, I reflexively imagine doing what the people onscreen are doing. When I imagine having unprotected sex with a chick who has unprotected sex with guys she barely knows, I just can't feel comfortable. Not that I wouldn't do it under the right (wrong?) circumstances, but the aversion is strong enough that I never have. I even passed up my first chance to have non-commercial sex with a chick who weighed less than me, because there was no condom and we were both too drunk to drive to the store. If you knew what that meant to me (a typical late-blooming Slashdot geek), you wouldn't doubt the sincerity of my previous post.
And as for the remarks about fat chicks, sorry, that category has real social significance, and I am not perfect. There are some things for which I would stand up against scorn, ridicule, and shame, but obesity isn't one of them. I conform to social mores when it comes to dealing with overweight women. I would never admit it in person to anybody, but that's why I keep my Slashdot id secret -- so I have someplace to be honest. If I seem like a troll, then that reflects poorly on my real-life behavior, not my sincerity here.
Enjoy the show... and take the special if you get caught. It's the best deal you'll see from anyone.
I'm not going to get caught. I'm not connected. There is nothing between the cable modem and the street except for a grounding block for lightning protection. When you sweep, bring a TDR.
The truth shall set you free!
Not even if it's in the magical fantasy land without negative consequences? Fair enough. You may not be trolling, but you certainly are a mass of contradictions, not unlike many of us when it comes to sex.
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