Microsoft said the same thing, relegating security and stability, but that's now come back to bite them in the ass.
If you call being the largest software company in the known universe, and one of the greatest financial successes of our generation being bitten in the ass, then I hope that I'm bitten in the ass, too. Oh God, please, something or someone bite me in the ass!
It looks like your talking about a system running Microsoft Windows. You forgot regular temp file cleaning,Defraging, and getting and using a browser alternate rather than IE, and an email alternate rather than OE.
Better yet have them install a Linux distro. I am sending all my old clients Xandros, as I do not have the patience to deal with MS Windows anymore. Then their maintenance consists of backups and udates only. I will also include Mplayer so they can watch any vidio that comes there way.
I tried to install Ubuntu for kicks on a machine I had just installed Windows 2000 on a day ago. The GUI part failed, and I ended up at a command prompt. Now what?
When was the last time you had to do maintenance on your screwdriver?
And the fact that you have to do maintenance on a computer just means that the industry is still very, very immature. It SHOULD be just a tool. You shouldn't have to learn the intracacies of it just to use it. Case in point: cars. When was the last time you changed a distributor caps, or re-did the points on your engine or had service on your carbureator? Oh yeah. You haven't. Most people your age never have because cars are much more mature than are computers in terms of life-cycle, which is why it's easier to run a car (which is more complex than modern computers). It's getting better (Windows 2000 was a big breakthrough), and it's going to continue to get easier, and easier to use a computer, as it should.
You're right. It is. But this context is about possible functionality of OO, not OO vs. MS Office. It all depends on the situation. My point was more of a general point about software, not a comparison (Although I happen to agree. In most cases, MS Office is much more functional than any knock-off, open source or otherwise).
Although it's true that functionality is important, at what cost?
At all costs. What else is there? Why would anybody develop software, if not to perform a function? The second that other things get in the way of "functionality", is the same second that that software starts to suck. What do you propose is more important than functionality?
Complete with full source code and build instructions.
SELINUX extensions, too, if they can manage it.
The bank is in the business of banking
Don't you see something a bit funny in what you said? You're talking about banks getting into the job of development, testing, and supporting an entire OS. That's not banking. That's Microsoft's job. This isn't really going to take off once banks do some real cost/benefit analysis. They don't want to have to support an entire OS.
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Movies, however, are region-locked. That won't stop me from eventually getting the PSP, though.;)
That's what a mod chip is for. I don't think that I'll ever own another game console that isn't chipped. I assume that chips will come out for this soon enough, to get around the region and the more importantly, the backup issue.
I don't remember. I tried Mandrake, SUSE, Ubuntu at the least. One of those (Mandrake?) came with at least Mozilla already installed. The best I can remember was that it was about 6 months ago that I tried Linux last, and of course, I was using all of the most recent versions at the time. That (and a lack of some basic hardware support) was enough to scare me off, since I was looking at it as a possiblity for my business. If I had the time or interest to play with Linux as a hobby, I might've found the apps after the fact, and figured out how to make shortcuts with the GUI.
Unfortunately, the human species is already going downhill fast. We have the most intelligent people NOT breeding, and the idiots breeding like rabbits. Our hospitals (at least in the modern world) keep all kinds of unhealthy people alive, and stupid people are saved time and time again from their own stupidity by excellent health care. I'd love to see a real study of these issues, but I fear that any kind of study that tackles these issues will be shouted down by BOTH the Religious Righteous and the Politically inCorrect, just like the "Bell Curve" study was.
Well, Haliburton is better run, or at least has better communication. Even as we speak, he's hard at work on some IE-only code. He's never heard of, nor has anyone in his department, ever heard this decree, if it really did happen. Same thing with their supposed Linux migration. Never happened. It was just for the press.
And just to add to your post, from what I understand from all of my doctor/veterinarian friends, cancer in the human body, at least, is quite common. We are simply able to, like with virus and bacteria based diseases, able to fight them off/correct them before they get out of hand. Full blown "Cancer" only happens when these problems get out of control, and the body can no longer contain/fix them.
It doesn't matter why it doesn't work. The fact is that it doesn't. If Firefox and Thunderbird, two of the best known and most successful Open Source apps don't install correctly, what does that say about the Linux dsektop environment? And, FYI, I tried to use both Firefox/Thunderbird's installers, and the package management system that came with the various distributions. No dice. This is a very, very, very basic operating system fetaure in today's OS's. If I have to hunt around to find an executable, then I may as well be using Windows 3.1. No wait, actually most of those apps installed properly. Hell, other than the various flavors of Linux, I don't know of a modern OS that doesn't handle new applications correctly. Every minute that one takes to try to hunt down an application is wasted time, and that's pretty unacceptable in my opinion.
You've obviously never worked at a large company (especially IBM). To say that ANYTHING happens company-wide is a joke. That being said, one of my very good friends works at IBM writing web applications, and doesn't even use Firefox, never mind designs for it. Everything is IE only.
Why don't they just go find it in the menu like they do with Windows? Oh, because your whole point would be moot.
Really? Last time I tried out Linux (meaning I tried out all of the various types to see if any worked), when I could get a program to successfully install, it never seemed to make it onto any kind of menu. I remember specifically installing Firefox onto one distribution. After I installed it, I couldn't start it! No shortcut, no nothing. I tried to go poking through the file structure to find an executable, but I never found it. Suffice to say, that hard drive was re-formatted, and Windows 2000 was re-installed.
Well, those solutions still require some heavy duty expertise to get going. Then, you still have to find some way of dealing with secure online credit card processing (or just securely send the credit cards to the merchant for manual entry), database issues, etc. Everybody that I know that wants to sell stuff online I just point to Yahoo Shopping. It works, it's undeniably the easiest thing out there, and its customizeable enough for probably 80% of the people out there wanting an online store.
Does anybody else think that this is a terribly bad idea? I sure as hell wouldn't want my credit card number and personal information sitting in a MySQL database. For this and many, many other reasons, I immediately write off as "clueless" any author that suggests that MySQL is a good tool to use for things that require security like shopping carts, or for anything close to mission critical.
I call bullshit. You're spouting idealistic, white paper bullshit that doesn't hold water in the real world.
1. CSS standards aren't there yet. Not even close to cross-browser, and buggy as hell in both.
2. Many (most?) web sites aren't just pages willed with information... they're applications. They're a hell of a lot more complicated than you make them out to be.
3. I checked out your link (slackersguild.com), and it's the exact opposite of what you're suggesting. Messy HTML, virtually no CSS, and I certainly don't see a mobile version of the site. If it's so damn easy to do, then why doesn't your own site do it?
You're 100% correct (I'm one of those people). My question about this is: Is it healthy? Is it a good idea? I'm not sure if I want MORE ways to exacerbate my condition...
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Microsoft said the same thing, relegating security and stability, but that's now come back to bite them in the ass.
If you call being the largest software company in the known universe, and one of the greatest financial successes of our generation being bitten in the ass, then I hope that I'm bitten in the ass, too. Oh God, please, something or someone bite me in the ass!
It looks like your talking about a system running Microsoft Windows. You forgot regular temp file cleaning ,Defraging, and getting and using a browser alternate rather than IE, and an email alternate rather than OE.
Better yet have them install a Linux distro. I am sending all my old clients Xandros, as I do not have the patience to deal with MS Windows anymore. Then their maintenance consists of backups and udates only. I will also include Mplayer so they can watch any vidio that comes there way.
I tried to install Ubuntu for kicks on a machine I had just installed Windows 2000 on a day ago. The GUI part failed, and I ended up at a command prompt. Now what?
When was the last time you had to do maintenance on your screwdriver?
And the fact that you have to do maintenance on a computer just means that the industry is still very, very immature. It SHOULD be just a tool. You shouldn't have to learn the intracacies of it just to use it. Case in point: cars. When was the last time you changed a distributor caps, or re-did the points on your engine or had service on your carbureator? Oh yeah. You haven't. Most people your age never have because cars are much more mature than are computers in terms of life-cycle, which is why it's easier to run a car (which is more complex than modern computers). It's getting better (Windows 2000 was a big breakthrough), and it's going to continue to get easier, and easier to use a computer, as it should.
You're right. It is. But this context is about possible functionality of OO, not OO vs. MS Office. It all depends on the situation. My point was more of a general point about software, not a comparison (Although I happen to agree. In most cases, MS Office is much more functional than any knock-off, open source or otherwise).
Although it's true that functionality is important, at what cost?
At all costs. What else is there? Why would anybody develop software, if not to perform a function? The second that other things get in the way of "functionality", is the same second that that software starts to suck. What do you propose is more important than functionality?
That is really fucking funny. Wish I had mod points today.
Well, it's not just for movies, but also for game backups. Sony doesn't allow game backups to play in their consoles.
Complete with full source code and build instructions.
SELINUX extensions, too, if they can manage it.
The bank is in the business of banking
Don't you see something a bit funny in what you said? You're talking about banks getting into the job of development, testing, and supporting an entire OS. That's not banking. That's Microsoft's job. This isn't really going to take off once banks do some real cost/benefit analysis. They don't want to have to support an entire OS.
Movies, however, are region-locked. That won't stop me from eventually getting the PSP, though. ;)
That's what a mod chip is for. I don't think that I'll ever own another game console that isn't chipped. I assume that chips will come out for this soon enough, to get around the region and the more importantly, the backup issue.
And we also know that no matter how annoying, or simply stupid they are, kids are 100% safe around all dinosaurs.
I don't remember. I tried Mandrake, SUSE, Ubuntu at the least. One of those (Mandrake?) came with at least Mozilla already installed. The best I can remember was that it was about 6 months ago that I tried Linux last, and of course, I was using all of the most recent versions at the time. That (and a lack of some basic hardware support) was enough to scare me off, since I was looking at it as a possiblity for my business. If I had the time or interest to play with Linux as a hobby, I might've found the apps after the fact, and figured out how to make shortcuts with the GUI.
Unfortunately, the human species is already going downhill fast. We have the most intelligent people NOT breeding, and the idiots breeding like rabbits. Our hospitals (at least in the modern world) keep all kinds of unhealthy people alive, and stupid people are saved time and time again from their own stupidity by excellent health care. I'd love to see a real study of these issues, but I fear that any kind of study that tackles these issues will be shouted down by BOTH the Religious Righteous and the Politically inCorrect, just like the "Bell Curve" study was.
Not sure where else I'd get Firefox and Thunderbird, other than the official sites...
Oh yeah, and I did work for IBM on 3 different occasions (twice as a programmer, once as a support dork). Never heard of such a thing.
Well, Haliburton is better run, or at least has better communication. Even as we speak, he's hard at work on some IE-only code. He's never heard of, nor has anyone in his department, ever heard this decree, if it really did happen. Same thing with their supposed Linux migration. Never happened. It was just for the press.
And just to add to your post, from what I understand from all of my doctor/veterinarian friends, cancer in the human body, at least, is quite common. We are simply able to, like with virus and bacteria based diseases, able to fight them off/correct them before they get out of hand. Full blown "Cancer" only happens when these problems get out of control, and the body can no longer contain/fix them.
It doesn't matter why it doesn't work. The fact is that it doesn't. If Firefox and Thunderbird, two of the best known and most successful Open Source apps don't install correctly, what does that say about the Linux dsektop environment? And, FYI, I tried to use both Firefox/Thunderbird's installers, and the package management system that came with the various distributions. No dice. This is a very, very, very basic operating system fetaure in today's OS's. If I have to hunt around to find an executable, then I may as well be using Windows 3.1. No wait, actually most of those apps installed properly. Hell, other than the various flavors of Linux, I don't know of a modern OS that doesn't handle new applications correctly. Every minute that one takes to try to hunt down an application is wasted time, and that's pretty unacceptable in my opinion.
You've obviously never worked at a large company (especially IBM). To say that ANYTHING happens company-wide is a joke. That being said, one of my very good friends works at IBM writing web applications, and doesn't even use Firefox, never mind designs for it. Everything is IE only.
Why don't they just go find it in the menu like they do with Windows? Oh, because your whole point would be moot.
Really? Last time I tried out Linux (meaning I tried out all of the various types to see if any worked), when I could get a program to successfully install, it never seemed to make it onto any kind of menu. I remember specifically installing Firefox onto one distribution. After I installed it, I couldn't start it! No shortcut, no nothing. I tried to go poking through the file structure to find an executable, but I never found it. Suffice to say, that hard drive was re-formatted, and Windows 2000 was re-installed.
I kinda' thought that the whole "use a database other than MySQL" thing would be obvious. Apparently not.
E-commerce should never be handled with MySQL.
Is that clear enough for ya'?
You must work for Oracle or you're a postgres weenie.
No. I just understand databases a hell of a lot better than your average PHP hack, due to years of experience.
Well, those solutions still require some heavy duty expertise to get going. Then, you still have to find some way of dealing with secure online credit card processing (or just securely send the credit cards to the merchant for manual entry), database issues, etc. Everybody that I know that wants to sell stuff online I just point to Yahoo Shopping. It works, it's undeniably the easiest thing out there, and its customizeable enough for probably 80% of the people out there wanting an online store.
Does anybody else think that this is a terribly bad idea? I sure as hell wouldn't want my credit card number and personal information sitting in a MySQL database. For this and many, many other reasons, I immediately write off as "clueless" any author that suggests that MySQL is a good tool to use for things that require security like shopping carts, or for anything close to mission critical.
I call bullshit. You're spouting idealistic, white paper bullshit that doesn't hold water in the real world.
1. CSS standards aren't there yet. Not even close to cross-browser, and buggy as hell in both.
2. Many (most?) web sites aren't just pages willed with information... they're applications. They're a hell of a lot more complicated than you make them out to be.
3. I checked out your link (slackersguild.com), and it's the exact opposite of what you're suggesting. Messy HTML, virtually no CSS, and I certainly don't see a mobile version of the site. If it's so damn easy to do, then why doesn't your own site do it?
You're 100% correct (I'm one of those people). My question about this is: Is it healthy? Is it a good idea? I'm not sure if I want MORE ways to exacerbate my condition...