And it would be completely useless for most of the people who use it at the moment.
If IRC and/or Jabber is enough for you: fine. But if you think you can convince a world wide distributed company to let their software development teams use IRC instead of Slack: good luck!
(you need 50 gigabits per second to emulate native That is bollocks. There are services that let you play games from other platforms by basically video streaming the UI to you... that is all in the 1 - 2 gigabits range.
Java applications are obnoxiously slow compared to native but are run anyway. That is not true since 1995... you must live under a rock.
The point about magnetic cores is: you don't need a core dumb... another greybeard who had to much stress in university and did not get grey by old age?
Which part of: Electorn builds native apps and not web apps did you not grasp yet? Oh, it is a web app because the GUI is running in an HTML/JS/CSS browser? Rofl.
There actually never really was a DLL hell. Only incompetent software developers who don't understand what a PATH or LDPATH or LIBPATH is, who don't understand why some DLLs are in the System Path and who don't understand what the load order is or what a working directory is. Hence they demanded "root" access and put all their DLLs into the system path... and wondered why half of the programs suddenly crashed.
HINT: on older windows the DLL is always first attempted to be loaded from the directory where the exe is... so you actually never have to configure anything if you simply install all DLLs and the EXE together. The search order how DLLs are loaded is well documented and easy to read u, actually less than a quarter of a page. Luckily however I don'T work with windows anymore since 1998... so I don't remember the exact order and which place/directory I forgot.
So: the hell is completely self made, like most hells.
"JavaScript on the desktop" is completely idiotic, even in theory. It is an absolutely horrible thing to standardize on. JavaScrip on the desktop is 100 times better idea than JavaScrip in a web browser.
It is a full fledged programming language wit very fast interpreters. No idea what you dislike about it: probably you simply have no clue?
E.g. I love being able to script my Eclipse IDE in JavaScript and automate setting of breakpoints via a Lauerbach emulator on my ARM device, inject test code, to the Device and, remove the breakpoint and let the code on the device continue. Why the fuck would you want me to use a special purpose language instead of the wildly availbale JavaScript?
Macs are now slowly shifting away from AppleScript to JavaScript as application scripting language. That is a good thing.
Writing a full fledged Application in JavaScript is nice too, especially if the source code is available to the enduser. No idea what aristocrats like you think is wrong with that.
Firstly, cross-platform Java GUI apps never really took off (and I say that as someone who paid his rent in 2002 writing one). Yes they did. It is 2018 now not 2002.
Even C++ has a better GUI builder in Qt than Java has which is pretty sad. If you use/need a GUI builder to write Swing or now JavaFX UIs you are doing it wrong anyway. BTW: the JavaFX GU Builder is claimed to be excellent.
Electron on the other hand is about client side caching in web apps. Electron has nothing to do with web apps. It is for writing cross platform desktop applications in JavaScript.
The two I can think of are 1. accessing non-mobile versions of websites, and 2. accessing the update servers for desktop operating systems. I always access the non mobile version of the web sites. That is most certainly not a way to figure what a client is doing.
Type unsafe is not the same as not needing to declare a type. (Static versus Dynamic typing on one axis and safe type system and unsafe type system on the other axis)
JavaScript is only unsafe in regards of a few stupid decisions about type coercions like between strings, booleans and ints. If you use objects it is type safe.
Modern languages that omit declaration of types usually use type interference (like Scala). That is only relevant at the point of definition of a variable, functions usually still need to declare the returning type.
While I agree that it makes some things harder to understand, it is usually the fault of the programmer, not the language. E.g. naming the variables properly and the functions that create objects, and obviously if the code is supposed to be maintained function argument types and return types should be documented.
I'm sure that you can think of many magical reasons why expert is wrong and you are right. That is not the point.
The point is that YOU are wrong. Because you misunderstood something the experts say and you cite now. Gas powered cars and trucks are all over the world. And yes I'm an expert in that: as I sit in them and look out of the window. So: no valve exploded in the last 4 ears since I regularly use them.
And then again: in modern bus, there are no vibrations, regardless how bad the road is. The bus may sway a bit and thats it. Up to you to figure what you understood wrong. You seem to have not the simplest piece of common sense.
"Our street is so bad, the vibrations are so huge that a _modern bus_ can not run on LPG/nat gas because the vibrations are bad for the valves", you said that. Not me. If you don't grasp how idiotic that statement is, your problem. I hope you are not an engineer with that attitude. I wonder how Space X manages to use valves that work... or any airplane.
The guy this threat is about, did not talk about the summary. He talked about the fact that he himself spends 33h per WEEK in traffic jams.
I live in NY, we aren't spending almost 4 entire days a week just sitting in traffic. Good for you:D I live in a small village, just 300k people, there are only small jams during peak hours at some construction sites. But I use bicycle or train anyway...
I dare say any EU country isn't much better. And there you are obviously wrong.
Government runs pretty much everything in Venezuela and it's a total mess. Last time I checked: they have/had no functional government but are a kind of totalitarian state... so: what is your point? You have on single example of a tyranny and another example as Greece (which has no things government run anyway) and jump to wild conclusions about he EU?
The same is true of Python and Ruby. Sure, you don't have to worry about declaring types, but you pay for that big time when you try to figure out the code months later. Types are usually obvious. And if not, the IDE needs only one or two clicks to show you the type...
Well, a youtube commenter asked me a few days ago: "does your mum know you are up late at night?". He probably does not know that the world is a sphere and that one half always has daylight...
Sorry, no idea what you want to talk about. If a developing country like Thailand with bad roads has valves that can stand the puny pressure you use in a bus, then Finnland can too. Perhaps you did not mean fuel but buses that run on high compressed gas? Then you probably misunderstood that TV talk... anyway, I would be surprised if your bus experiences any unusual vibrations at all.
Regarding your wind wizardry, that joke gets old. No idea what you misunderstood that time and why you try to haunt me with it:D And for your interest: WoW has no wind wizards, so I'm not experienced with wind spells...
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And it would be completely useless for most of the people who use it at the moment.
If IRC and/or Jabber is enough for you: fine. But if you think you can convince a world wide distributed company to let their software development teams use IRC instead of Slack: good luck!
(you need 50 gigabits per second to emulate native ... that is all in the 1 - 2 gigabits range.
That is bollocks.
There are services that let you play games from other platforms by basically video streaming the UI to you
Java applications are obnoxiously slow compared to native but are run anyway. ... you must live under a rock.
That is not true since 1995
grep, sed are not "applications", they are "utility programs".
Anything that is not "interactive" is not an application.
Perl is a corner case as you can write whole applications it it with its various GUI bindings.
The point about magnetic cores is: you don't need a core dumb ... another greybeard who had to much stress in university and did not get grey by old age?
Real greybeards always distinguished between:
- utility programs
- application programs
- system programs
Hint: perhaps you can figure yourself where the term "application" comes from. After all you are not as grey and silverback as you believe you are.
Which part of: Electorn builds native apps and not web apps did you not grasp yet?
Oh, it is a web app because the GUI is running in an HTML/JS/CSS browser? Rofl.
There actually never really was a DLL hell. ... and wondered why half of the programs suddenly crashed.
Only incompetent software developers who don't understand what a PATH or LDPATH or LIBPATH is, who don't understand why some DLLs are in the System Path and who don't understand what the load order is or what a working directory is.
Hence they demanded "root" access and put all their DLLs into the system path
HINT: on older windows the DLL is always first attempted to be loaded from the directory where the exe is ... so you actually never have to configure anything if you simply install all DLLs and the EXE together. The search order how DLLs are loaded is well documented and easy to read u, actually less than a quarter of a page. Luckily however I don'T work with windows anymore since 1998 ... so I don't remember the exact order and which place/directory I forgot.
So: the hell is completely self made, like most hells.
You forgot 6: ...
Scaling to millions of concurrent users
"JavaScript on the desktop" is completely idiotic, even in theory. It is an absolutely horrible thing to standardize on.
JavaScrip on the desktop is 100 times better idea than JavaScrip in a web browser.
It is a full fledged programming language wit very fast interpreters. No idea what you dislike about it: probably you simply have no clue?
E.g. I love being able to script my Eclipse IDE in JavaScript and automate setting of breakpoints via a Lauerbach emulator on my ARM device, inject test code, to the Device and, remove the breakpoint and let the code on the device continue. Why the fuck would you want me to use a special purpose language instead of the wildly availbale JavaScript?
Macs are now slowly shifting away from AppleScript to JavaScript as application scripting language. That is a good thing.
Writing a full fledged Application in JavaScript is nice too, especially if the source code is available to the enduser. No idea what aristocrats like you think is wrong with that.
Firstly, cross-platform Java GUI apps never really took off (and I say that as someone who paid his rent in 2002 writing one).
Yes they did.
It is 2018 now not 2002.
Even C++ has a better GUI builder in Qt than Java has which is pretty sad.
If you use/need a GUI builder to write Swing or now JavaFX UIs you are doing it wrong anyway. BTW: the JavaFX GU Builder is claimed to be excellent.
Electron on the other hand is about client side caching in web apps.
Electron has nothing to do with web apps. It is for writing cross platform desktop applications in JavaScript.
Faster, cleaner, more compatible with your other apps.
And how would that be the case?
The only ways apps incooperate is cut/paste or the file system (if it accessible). What has that to do with the platform you use to program one?
The two I can think of are 1. accessing non-mobile versions of websites, and 2. accessing the update servers for desktop operating systems.
I always access the non mobile version of the web sites. That is most certainly not a way to figure what a client is doing.
Hundreds, probably thousands. ...
I have a dozen on my Mac
Type unsafe is not the same as not needing to declare a type. (Static versus Dynamic typing on one axis and safe type system and unsafe type system on the other axis)
JavaScript is only unsafe in regards of a few stupid decisions about type coercions like between strings, booleans and ints. If you use objects it is type safe.
Modern languages that omit declaration of types usually use type interference (like Scala). That is only relevant at the point of definition of a variable, functions usually still need to declare the returning type.
While I agree that it makes some things harder to understand, it is usually the fault of the programmer, not the language. E.g. naming the variables properly and the functions that create objects, and obviously if the code is supposed to be maintained function argument types and return types should be documented.
I'm sure that you can think of many magical reasons why expert is wrong and you are right.
That is not the point.
The point is that YOU are wrong. Because you misunderstood something the experts say and you cite now.
Gas powered cars and trucks are all over the world. And yes I'm an expert in that: as I sit in them and look out of the window. So: no valve exploded in the last 4 ears since I regularly use them.
And then again: in modern bus, there are no vibrations, regardless how bad the road is. The bus may sway a bit and thats it. Up to you to figure what you understood wrong. You seem to have not the simplest piece of common sense.
"Our street is so bad, the vibrations are so huge that a _modern bus_ can not run on LPG/nat gas because the vibrations are bad for the valves", you said that. Not me. If you don't grasp how idiotic that statement is, your problem. I hope you are not an engineer with that attitude. I wonder how Space X manages to use valves that work ... or any airplane.
The guy this threat is about, did not talk about the summary. He talked about the fact that he himself spends 33h per WEEK in traffic jams.
I live in NY, we aren't spending almost 4 entire days a week just sitting in traffic. :D I live in a small village, just 300k people, there are only small jams during peak hours at some construction sites. But I use bicycle or train anyway ...
Good for you
I dare say any EU country isn't much better.
And there you are obviously wrong.
Government runs pretty much everything in Venezuela and it's a total mess. ... so: what is your point? You have on single example of a tyranny and another example as Greece (which has no things government run anyway) and jump to wild conclusions about he EU?
Last time I checked: they have/had no functional government but are a kind of totalitarian state
The "union system" in the USA must be very strange ... I wonder how much written about it here on /. is pure nonsense and what is true.
GTK is a C toolkit.
However UI programming screams for something object oriented. Using C for it is just a pain in the ass.
The same is true of Python and Ruby. Sure, you don't have to worry about declaring types, but you pay for that big time when you try to figure out the code months later. ...
Types are usually obvious. And if not, the IDE needs only one or two clicks to show you the type
Visual BASIC is not a BASIC ... it only has the term in its name.
Well, a youtube commenter asked me a few days ago: "does your mum know you are up late at night?". He probably does not know that the world is a sphere and that one half always has daylight ...
no return Venus-like
No one ever claimed "Venus like" except idiots like you.
Time spent eating is not wasted time but time well spent. ...
In some nations people eat to fast
People need to figure out ways to ingest less calories
For many fat people that is not the problem, but a messed up metabolizm is.
However you are right that increasing the burn rate most likely has negative side effects.
Sorry, no idea what you want to talk about. ... anyway, I would be surprised if your bus experiences any unusual vibrations at all.
If a developing country like Thailand with bad roads has valves that can stand the puny pressure you use in a bus, then Finnland can too.
Perhaps you did not mean fuel but buses that run on high compressed gas? Then you probably misunderstood that TV talk
Regarding your wind wizardry, that joke gets old. No idea what you misunderstood that time and why you try to haunt me with it :D And for your interest: WoW has no wind wizards, so I'm not experienced with wind spells ...