It will run at 400 - 600 seconds and will produce more energy than it consumes, that is all. There is no power plant attached nor will there ever be: https://www.iter.org/sci/Goals
And the power production is not clean as long as we use deuterium + tritium, the reactor vessel will have to be replaced around every 10 years and discarded as highly radioactive waste.
Regarding sustainability: ITER will attempt to breed tritium... lets see how good that works. Otherwise we had to farm tritium from the sea, which is energy intensive and causes another spot in the chain to work with an radioactive element.
They had to be ready to act in an instant to stop a madman bent on killing others. So while a cop rang the bell, and a few of them greeted the guy who opened the door, some other cop, 30m away, shot the guy who opened the door... justice!!
The Officer will live with this guilt for the rest of his life. He didn't take the job to kill an innocent man, but to serve and protect the innocent. You are well aware that from the outside view of things like this: only people who want to have the legal right to shoot other people join the cops. Right? You realize this? If not... goood luuuck!
Blame the caller, he's the one at fault. He and only he is truly guilty in this tragic death. No, the only one at fault is the guy who pulled the trigger.
If you are in a nation where a large percentage of your electric supply comes from natural gas, such as Isreal, USA, UK, Japan, You lost your audience somewhere between "such as" and UK or Japan...
Natural gas looks to me like a great fuel for cars. It is. Most transportation in Thailand is done with LPG. (Technically not the same as "natural gas"), however your "refueling times" are way off. Refueling a Truck takes +30minutes, refueling a bus about 20 minutes.
Electric vehicles are 4 to 5 times as efficient as internal combustion engines. So shifting from gasoline cars to coal powered power plants saves minimum 50% of the fuel (coal powered plants are only ~42% efficient, cars are below 20%)
That is V2G, Vehicle to Grid, allowing cars to supply power instead of just charging. It has NOT been done in Europe for a decade, as you claimed. None of your references say that it has been done. Yes, it has been done since a decade. But no one calls it here V2G... that is a completely stupid acronym. Basically every EV that is charged via a SmartMeter/SmartCharger can feed back into the grid.
If my links don't provide information for that, then google your self.
As to one plug? For AC there are 2 (type 1 and type 2), for DC there are 2 (CCS and CHAdeMO), and then there is the Tesla plug. It's a disaster. That is true. And there are many proprietary plugs too. E.g. cities with "rent an electric car" initiative like in Paris or Ulm. They have their own plugs, so standard EVs can not use their charging infrastructure.
but when I read your WTF it sounded like you were trying to find better phrasing of your comment No, I wanted to fix the typo. But Chrome on Mac OS is to stupid to realize that my OS is German, but I'm typing in english... so it only realizes the typo (how does it do that?) but then picks the German dictionary to give proposals... (And I was to lazy to google for the correct spelling)
And all this just because they programmed their own text input widget instead of taking the one provided by Mac OS X. That has no problems with a) realizing which language I'm typing in, b) taking the appropriated dictionary and c) ignoring what language is chosen to display the menus
Skype is even worth... it simply assumes that the language of the program (yes, my OS is still german, but Skype is set to english) is also the language of the dictionary... so if I chat with Germans, all text is red underlined. And I honestly don't want to change all the time the language settings...
Prices would plummet. Why exactly? The doctor asking less per hour? Why would he do that? The nurse asking for less per hour? Why would s/he do that? The room of the doctor costs less rent? How should that be going to happen? The machinery, e.g. for a dentist, suddenly is cheaper? Or the X-ray machine is cheaper? How should that be going to happen?
You are simply an idiot.
Hint: all countries with mandatory healthcare insurance have cheap health care. Regardless if the insurance is free market, set by law or government sponsored or via taxes.
Obviously the "not so free" but more or less free US system is the only expensive health care system on the world. And the most expensive one in terms of costs per treatment. You want to make it more free? And think it becomes cheaper? HA HA HA HA, you are an idiot.
While 60+-year-olds can certainly be extremely productive and useful members of society they need considerably more healthcare than 18-year olds. Because they lived bad in their youth. There is no real reason for elderly to be less healthy than young people, if they live healthy. Look at asian countries... especially at people who do martial arts or chi gong or yoga, don't smoke and drink moderately: except for some wrinkles they just look like a 30 year old healthy young person.
There never will be any "AI driven" software development, unless the AI is consciousnous (Google Chrome can not even suggest the correction for this word, it only underlines it red... WTF?) and can _grasp_ the business the software is intended for.
What is V2G infrastructure? I don't recognize V2G...
The non-Tesla high speed charging infrastructure in most of Europe is a joke. And non-Teslas can't use the Tesla grid. No idea about that. As Europe has probably 1000 times more EVs than the US, no idea what you want to imply. I can not charge my Nissan at a Tesla plug? Well, we only have one plug here and Teslas come with adaptors...
You deserialize them, recreating "similar" objects in memory.
What exactly is the security risk?
Sorry, gweihir: you have no clue
But I answer it for you: there is none. There is no fucking difference if you read a text file I wrote (which is called serialization, too) or a serialized object format.
is that it turned out to be possible to craft serialized objects that simply deserializing would cause code execution. Actually it does not. Unless the writer of the relevant classes deliberately put some special "deserialize()" methods into the classes on the server. Exploit from outside is completely impossible unless a programmer deliberately put in a back door.
have zero understanding of security Unless the programmer of the deserialization code did not plant an easter egg, aka a trojan, into the deserialization code: there is no security issue at all!
WTF... what is next? An SQL select from a database is a security issue?
Using gas turbines allows for a speedy spin up but they are only half as efficient as a steam plant, it burns twice the fuel for the same electrical energy. How do you come to that absurd idea?
A gas turbine is more efficient than a steam turbine in a steam powered power plant. The difference however is so minimal it is pointless. Gas turbines are out of fashion: because they are rather small, and super expensive, not because they are inefficient.
Again: why don't you simply stop talking about stuff you have no clue about?
The first problem I see here is that the cars will be charged at night... from solar power? I think you missed a step or something. He did not say that vehicles are charged at night from solar power. Why do you try to frame other people as idiots?
He said: due to solar power, old power plants have excess capacity... obviously during daytime.
What Americans don't grasp (and that is aimed at true Americans nitpicking about e-vehicles and Elon who is actually from South Africa): in Europe the commute distance is rather short. While there are people that actually need to go to work about 100 miles, and back another 100 miles, they can recharge their vehicle at the workplace. And most people hardly drive more than 10miles to work and 10miles back, if they spent another 5miles on the way home shopping that would already be exaggerating.
With nitpicking I mean: the Tesla has an extraordinary range. It is definitely a nice vehicle. What I don't like is all the electronics and the big "entertainment screen".
Regarding europeans and catch up... that is a basically a conspiracy theory that is not a conspiracy and not a theory.
European car manufacturers are researching, prototyping and building e-vehicles since the early 1980s. But they never dared to start penetrate the market, invent their own batteries or bunched up together to make a joined battery research group.
Modern e-vehicles would look completely different when they simply would put all their knowhow into one basket (like the Japanese used to do before the Americans destroyed MITI) and build vehicles from that point. Modern e-vehicles at the moment are gasoline cars where the engine is replaced (sometimes the gears, too). In the 1980s and 1990s we had cars with a single engine at every wheel, able to do everything like stabelizing the car, regenerating energy, and anti blocking braking. Now we have standard ICE drives from the gear to the wheel... with ICE anti blocking braking and lane stabelizing etc.
If you would combine the knowledge you had cars that would be more fun to drive, aka a all wheels drive, would regenerate more energy, would be more stable, would be much lighter and hence consume even less energy.
If you want me to believe algae has any possibility of producing enough fuel to meet any nation's transportation needs ROFL.
I did not say enough... it simply is much easier and more effective to make bio fuels with algae than making synt fuels with nuclear power (or other electricity, or heat).
Again, if you don't want to google stuff: it is your problem, not mine. I gave enough links regarding algae based fuel.
So, your defense is your ignorance? Ignorance about what? If you disagree with me or I say something wrong: it is not a lie. Period. The previous discussion is/was not about anything where anyone could be proven wrong... so there is neither ignorance nor lies. You believe that more nuclear power will help to solve problems by producing bio fuel. I pointed out that this is unrealistic regarding prices. If you want to go deeper into that: simply calculate how many gallons fuel the US needs per day. Then calculate how many nuclear reactors you need to build to produce it...
Energy per gallon: 370kWh... so you need to produce 390e6 * 379kWh in electricity per day and convert it loss free into synthetic fuel. That means 6158750000 kW power capacity. That is 6159 GW. With a capacity of roughly 0.5GW per reactor, you need 12,000 new reactors. Good luck finding places for only a fraction of them in the US. But I guess I made somewhere a mistake, so feel free to divide it by a factor of 10:P
Again: I did not say home power. I said: feed back power into the grid. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I probably was not clear on that.
In Europe powering the home from an EV is not a realistic scenario, power outages only happen in extremely rare circumstances and those are usually so server that the power is gone for days.
Obviously if I say "no power outages", you can take that with a grain of salt. Power is reliable in Europe but let's not pretend blackouts are never a thing there. As said above: they are extremely rare. So rare that 90% of the population never experience one in their lifetime, or that it is a scheduled one like during a WWII bomb clearing alert.
So, having the EV power your house would only make sense if you want to safe money during peak times. As households have fixed power rates and would need a special contract to benefit from the spot market prices, and the relevant hardware, that is unlikely to happen. On the other hand, with SmartMeters the tendency is actually to be integrated into the grid operators load balancing, which means getting payed or receiving power for a premium price if your house/EV follows the grid operators "demands".
Anyway, I wanted to word that different. Lost track somehow. While the difference between peak and off peak prices can be significant, a typical household in Germany consumes below 4,000 kWh per year. The current price is about 25c per kWh... which includes grid costs and billing. Lets assume the power price is 15c (which is high, spot market is usually below that). Lets assume you can buy 50% of your power at a premium price of perhaps 5c. So you save 10c per kWh. 2,000kWh * 10c = 200Euro per year. I doubt you get a SmartMeter + equipment for supplying your home for a reasonable enough price that this 200Euro savings adds up quick enough. But then again: perhaps it is super easy to integrate that if you already have a SmartMeter infrastructure in your house.
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It will run at 400 - 600 seconds and will produce more energy than it consumes, that is all. There is no power plant attached nor will there ever be: https://www.iter.org/sci/Goals
And the power production is not clean as long as we use deuterium + tritium, the reactor vessel will have to be replaced around every 10 years and discarded as highly radioactive waste.
Regarding sustainability: ITER will attempt to breed tritium ... lets see how good that works. Otherwise we had to farm tritium from the sea, which is energy intensive and causes another spot in the chain to work with an radioactive element.
They had to be ready to act in an instant to stop a madman bent on killing others. ... justice!!
So while a cop rang the bell, and a few of them greeted the guy who opened the door, some other cop, 30m away, shot the guy who opened the door
The Officer will live with this guilt for the rest of his life. He didn't take the job to kill an innocent man, but to serve and protect the innocent. ... goood luuuck!
You are well aware that from the outside view of things like this: only people who want to have the legal right to shoot other people join the cops. Right? You realize this? If not
Blame the caller, he's the one at fault. He and only he is truly guilty in this tragic death.
No, the only one at fault is the guy who pulled the trigger.
I have to admit: I only watched it three or four times.
The sequel however, I could not stand at all.
If you are in a nation where a large percentage of your electric supply comes from natural gas, such as Isreal, USA, UK, Japan, ...
You lost your audience somewhere between "such as" and UK or Japan
Natural gas looks to me like a great fuel for cars.
It is. Most transportation in Thailand is done with LPG. (Technically not the same as "natural gas"), however your "refueling times" are way off. Refueling a Truck takes +30minutes, refueling a bus about 20 minutes.
Electric vehicles are 4 to 5 times as efficient as internal combustion engines.
So shifting from gasoline cars to coal powered power plants saves minimum 50% of the fuel (coal powered plants are only ~42% efficient, cars are below 20%)
That is V2G, Vehicle to Grid, allowing cars to supply power instead of just charging. It has NOT been done in Europe for a decade, as you claimed. None of your references say that it has been done. ... that is a completely stupid acronym. Basically every EV that is charged via a SmartMeter/SmartCharger can feed back into the grid.
Yes, it has been done since a decade. But no one calls it here V2G
If my links don't provide information for that, then google your self.
As to one plug? For AC there are 2 (type 1 and type 2), for DC there are 2 (CCS and CHAdeMO), and then there is the Tesla plug. It's a disaster.
That is true. And there are many proprietary plugs too. E.g. cities with "rent an electric car" initiative like in Paris or Ulm. They have their own plugs, so standard EVs can not use their charging infrastructure.
but when I read your WTF it sounded like you were trying to find better phrasing of your comment ... so it only realizes the typo (how does it do that?) but then picks the German dictionary to give proposals ... (And I was to lazy to google for the correct spelling)
No, I wanted to fix the typo. But Chrome on Mac OS is to stupid to realize that my OS is German, but I'm typing in english
And all this just because they programmed their own text input widget instead of taking the one provided by Mac OS X. That has no problems with a) realizing which language I'm typing in, b) taking the appropriated dictionary and c) ignoring what language is chosen to display the menus
Skype is even worth ... it simply assumes that the language of the program (yes, my OS is still german, but Skype is set to english) is also the language of the dictionary ... so if I chat with Germans, all text is red underlined. And I honestly don't want to change all the time the language settings ...
Prices would plummet.
Why exactly? The doctor asking less per hour? Why would he do that? The nurse asking for less per hour? Why would s/he do that? The room of the doctor costs less rent? How should that be going to happen? The machinery, e.g. for a dentist, suddenly is cheaper? Or the X-ray machine is cheaper? How should that be going to happen?
You are simply an idiot.
Hint: all countries with mandatory healthcare insurance have cheap health care. Regardless if the insurance is free market, set by law or government sponsored or via taxes.
Obviously the "not so free" but more or less free US system is the only expensive health care system on the world. And the most expensive one in terms of costs per treatment. You want to make it more free? And think it becomes cheaper? HA HA HA HA, you are an idiot.
While 60+-year-olds can certainly be extremely productive and useful members of society they need considerably more healthcare than 18-year olds. ... especially at people who do martial arts or chi gong or yoga, don't smoke and drink moderately: except for some wrinkles they just look like a 30 year old healthy young person.
Because they lived bad in their youth.
There is no real reason for elderly to be less healthy than young people, if they live healthy. Look at asian countries
There never will be any "AI driven" software development, unless the AI is consciousnous (Google Chrome can not even suggest the correction for this word, it only underlines it red ... WTF?) and can _grasp_ the business the software is intended for.
What is V2G infrastructure? I don't recognize V2G ...
The non-Tesla high speed charging infrastructure in most of Europe is a joke. And non-Teslas can't use the Tesla grid. ...
No idea about that. As Europe has probably 1000 times more EVs than the US, no idea what you want to imply. I can not charge my Nissan at a Tesla plug? Well, we only have one plug here and Teslas come with adaptors
I serialize some objects to a file.
You deserialize them, recreating "similar" objects in memory.
What exactly is the security risk?
Sorry, gweihir: you have no clue
But I answer it for you: there is none. There is no fucking difference if you read a text file I wrote (which is called serialization, too) or a serialized object format.
is that it turned out to be possible to craft serialized objects that simply deserializing would cause code execution.
Actually it does not. Unless the writer of the relevant classes deliberately put some special "deserialize()" methods into the classes on the server. Exploit from outside is completely impossible unless a programmer deliberately put in a back door.
have zero understanding of security
Unless the programmer of the deserialization code did not plant an easter egg, aka a trojan, into the deserialization code: there is no security issue at all!
WTF ... what is next? An SQL select from a database is a security issue?
Whenever I see serialized data lying around in persistence, I know that someone further up didn't do his job.
You mean inside of a database?
There is nothing wrong with serialization. Use it when it is appropriated, don't use it if not.
My 2 eurocents.
Luckily a bit more worth than 2 US cents :D but your opinion: nope.
Using gas turbines allows for a speedy spin up but they are only half as efficient as a steam plant, it burns twice the fuel for the same electrical energy.
How do you come to that absurd idea?
A gas turbine is more efficient than a steam turbine in a steam powered power plant. The difference however is so minimal it is pointless. Gas turbines are out of fashion: because they are rather small, and super expensive, not because they are inefficient.
Again: why don't you simply stop talking about stuff you have no clue about?
The first problem I see here is that the cars will be charged at night... from solar power? I think you missed a step or something.
He did not say that vehicles are charged at night from solar power. Why do you try to frame other people as idiots?
He said: due to solar power, old power plants have excess capacity ... obviously during daytime.
But there is no limit.
The planet literally is made out of Lithium.
What Americans don't grasp (and that is aimed at true Americans nitpicking about e-vehicles and Elon who is actually from South Africa): in Europe the commute distance is rather short. While there are people that actually need to go to work about 100 miles, and back another 100 miles, they can recharge their vehicle at the workplace. And most people hardly drive more than 10miles to work and 10miles back, if they spent another 5miles on the way home shopping that would already be exaggerating.
With nitpicking I mean: the Tesla has an extraordinary range. It is definitely a nice vehicle. What I don't like is all the electronics and the big "entertainment screen".
Regarding europeans and catch up ... that is a basically a conspiracy theory that is not a conspiracy and not a theory.
European car manufacturers are researching, prototyping and building e-vehicles since the early 1980s. But they never dared to start penetrate the market, invent their own batteries or bunched up together to make a joined battery research group.
Modern e-vehicles would look completely different when they simply would put all their knowhow into one basket (like the Japanese used to do before the Americans destroyed MITI) and build vehicles from that point. Modern e-vehicles at the moment are gasoline cars where the engine is replaced (sometimes the gears, too). In the 1980s and 1990s we had cars with a single engine at every wheel, able to do everything like stabelizing the car, regenerating energy, and anti blocking braking. Now we have standard ICE drives from the gear to the wheel ... with ICE anti blocking braking and lane stabelizing etc.
If you would combine the knowledge you had cars that would be more fun to drive, aka a all wheels drive, would regenerate more energy, would be more stable, would be much lighter and hence consume even less energy.
No hatred at all :D ...
Just stating facts, but you wanted credits
If you want me to believe algae has any possibility of producing enough fuel to meet any nation's transportation needs
ROFL.
I did not say enough ... it simply is much easier and more effective to make bio fuels with algae than making synt fuels with nuclear power (or other electricity, or heat).
Again, if you don't want to google stuff: it is your problem, not mine. I gave enough links regarding algae based fuel.
Then I misread your point.
I was not aware that you are talking about fuel cells for flying.
Anyway, your fuel cell example, if I may nitpick, is for hydrogen fuel cells :D there are plenty of other types.
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com...
http://www.worldhighways.com/s...
https://www.omv.com/en/sustain...
There are plenty of more links, just google "siemens EnBW car charging joint venture"
Here's something you could educate us both on, how much would this algae based fuel cost?
Why don't you google it?
https://www.google.co.th/searc...
1.7 million hits ...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/... an easy read, you can even download the PDF.
And as you are so fond of youtube videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Or if you like a more official one: https://www.energy.gov/eere/bi...
So, your defense is your ignorance? ... so there is neither ignorance nor lies. You believe that more nuclear power will help to solve problems by producing bio fuel. I pointed out that this is unrealistic regarding prices. If you want to go deeper into that: simply calculate how many gallons fuel the US needs per day. Then calculate how many nuclear reactors you need to build to produce it ...
Ignorance about what? If you disagree with me or I say something wrong: it is not a lie. Period. The previous discussion is/was not about anything where anyone could be proven wrong
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs... 391.71 million gallons (or about 9.33 million barrels per day).
Energy per gallon: 370kWh ... so you need to produce 390e6 * 379kWh in electricity per day and convert it loss free into synthetic fuel. That means 6158750000 kW power capacity. That is 6159 GW. With a capacity of roughly 0.5GW per reactor, you need 12,000 new reactors. Good luck finding places for only a fraction of them in the US. But I guess I made somewhere a mistake, so feel free to divide it by a factor of 10 :P
Again: I did not say home power. I said: feed back power into the grid. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I probably was not clear on that.
In Europe powering the home from an EV is not a realistic scenario, power outages only happen in extremely rare circumstances and those are usually so server that the power is gone for days.
Obviously if I say "no power outages", you can take that with a grain of salt. Power is reliable in Europe but let's not pretend blackouts are never a thing there. As said above: they are extremely rare. So rare that 90% of the population never experience one in their lifetime, or that it is a scheduled one like during a WWII bomb clearing alert.
So, having the EV power your house would only make sense if you want to safe money during peak times. As households have fixed power rates and would need a special contract to benefit from the spot market prices, and the relevant hardware, that is unlikely to happen. On the other hand, with SmartMeters the tendency is actually to be integrated into the grid operators load balancing, which means getting payed or receiving power for a premium price if your house/EV follows the grid operators "demands".
Anyway, I wanted to word that different. Lost track somehow. While the difference between peak and off peak prices can be significant, a typical household in Germany consumes below 4,000 kWh per year. The current price is about 25c per kWh ... which includes grid costs and billing. Lets assume the power price is 15c (which is high, spot market is usually below that). Lets assume you can buy 50% of your power at a premium price of perhaps 5c. So you save 10c per kWh. 2,000kWh * 10c = 200Euro per year. I doubt you get a SmartMeter + equipment for supplying your home for a reasonable enough price that this 200Euro savings adds up quick enough. But then again: perhaps it is super easy to integrate that if you already have a SmartMeter infrastructure in your house.