It was not off topic, the guy is a noob and had the wrong title for his question. Read again:
When you all started out, what route did you take to pick up the server setup and maintenance skills you have now? Is there anything in particular that you would recommend to someone who has excellent skills with consumer PCs and servers but is a total newbie to corporate and enterprise networking and servers?
The guy is asking how to work with serving apps in general, he is light years from optimizing them. Like most noobs they post something not knowing what the hell they are doing, way over their heads, asking about something trying to be smart by saying I am trying to set up a PDC in server 2008, but cannot get my exchange 2007 running because it says I am getting a conflict with another IP. Reading things like this and the question in this forum make me shiver and want to scream because there are so many things wrong with the statements I barely know where to start. And in my example the guy was thinking there was just an IP problem, when in actuality "Can open, Worms everywhere".
Virtualization is a wonderful learning tool. However, this being slashdot I am feeling a bit rantish.
Taking a job where you don't have any experience is fine when you have someone to learn from. However, having cleaned up my fair share of messes, or as I call them 'live learning environments'. I would suggest you start working for someone with experience AND play in a virtual environment.
Virtualization is the future but this career field is beyond the infantile stage of hiring someone with no experience and having them in charge of your business. Entry level admins aren't THAT expensive. What do I mean by that? Most IT workers can halt a business if not destroy it completely with less than a day's work. There is a certain working order to getting to know how to do things right. Do tech work, watching the seasoned admins do their job well and getting in on the front lines. When you have learned all you can from them, move on to a new business or move up where you are. Don't take someones business and brag about how good you are because you are too proud to take an entry level position. Then then call up/. crying because you are in over your head.
I mean good lord, the number of people in the last 6 months I have had to work with in forums because they didnt understand what FSMO roles were, or what a port was, or get this having to clean up a router because the idiot thought that/24 meant 1-24. (their router had been like that for almost a year).
My advice? Quit and take a job where you can learn from someone, check your ego and learn. All you are going to do by yourself is pick up a bunch of bad habits and a HUGE ego because no one is going to be there to tell you how much of an idiot you are being.
Man that sucks evidentally someone posted this before me, I actually picked this out in the mysterious future because it was perfect but got busy and forgot to submit it quickly.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: It's a boyhood fantasy... I must have seen this ship hundreds of times in the Smithsonian but I was never able to touch it.
Lieutenant Commander Data: Sir, does tactile contact alter your perception of the Phoenix?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Oh, yes! For humans, touch can connect you to an object in a very personal way, make it seem more real.
[Data also puts his hand on The Phoenix]
Lieutenant Commander Data: I am detecting imperfections in the titanium casing... temperature variations in the fuel manifold... it is no more "real" to me now than it was a moment ago.
Cmdr. Deanna Troi: [observing from a catwalk] Would you three like to be alone?
I've never understood these claims about Narnia being religious
BWAHAHAHAHA! _wipes tear away_....you flunked English lit didn't you?
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Exactly, now you may not get the Wow grinding kiddies over, but I am quite certain with the burnout rate of these games, something like this would be fantastic and would attract enough players to generate a nice income. heck just look at games like Kings of Chaos, viral games where recruitment is priority #1. Being part of a game guild that stole the Grail from another guild, or currently holds the most relics is great. Or being hired by a guild to use your rouge skills to become a spy in another guild and steal an item for a nice lump sum would be fun. heck even in WoW we see some of this when people try to raid Org or the undercity.
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Well the idea being, that there are enough items and holding one affects your entire guild. So rather than a singular quest you get a guild quest where you (like arthur) get a group together to benefit the whole.
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While MMOs are not all that new (Ultima online anyone?), the quest part seems to be getting dumber and dumber as the world moves on to better graphics and larger quantities of gear. Grinding seems to be all you do in later games. I was originally a big Baldur's Gate fan, loved the quest line, side quests and customization there.
I contend that MMOs wont get to this level of questing again until we go back to unique items. Eg the holy grail gaining a faction special privileges like +2 to all skills and only one can be in a realm/server at a time. Then the players can quest over it and battle and gain things that way. As the grail goes from faction to faction they can either guard it themselves or they can use resources to put it in an adequately difficult location. Have enough items like this and you get quests defined by players rather than the grind of doing it over and over again. As a guild gets more and more of the unique items it would get more powerful as a whole. You would get small uprisings with people trying to take over the guild and people moving around rouge style stealing items. It would be fantastic game play. Princesses giving special trade privileges, Relics gaining stats, deities granting favor.
ahh but I am back daydreaming again. People love gear grinding too much. Thus the reason I quit Wow.
This book though seems to point in the right direction though. I love questing, rather than the goal being button finding or getting to lvl 70, an emotional satisfaction is attached to completing a lengthy storyline. In WoW there is absolutely no attachment to any NPC in that game unless you went through Warcraft 1,2,and 3. But it is good to see that there is enough interest in the Quest problem to generate a book about it.
The real question is, is this more difficult to spoof than the current paper method? Anyone can fake a paper ballot, it is a small subset who can carry out these electronic attacks, although the consequences of this smaller subset's maliciousness could be worse.
Sorry a little late here, been pretty busy, dont know if you are still checking this thread anyway. But I thought it an interesting point you bring up. You guessed correct, as a Christian Gay Marriage violates my morals. However I am a believe in State Agnosticism, if people know their history, traditionally Christians are slaughtered by religious gov's so I don't see why christians are pushing so hard for a theocracy. But when it comes down to it, morals dictate gov't. our morals dictate what drugs are legal, which are controlled, our morals dictated laws against Rape and incest.
So my question is, how do we maintain Gnosticism without giving up rights to vote?
Ya I had a friend do this with a web server, for kicks of course, the sucker ran fantastic. Was some kind of nonconductive fluid he got on the cheap. Only trick was he had to separate the CD-ROM and hard drive but other than that it ran for a long time, fans and all.
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Ditto! Wow you actually do find useful stuff on/. Only too me 6 years to find that out....:)
As opposed to the bible thumping corner screamers that believe whatever they are told. Believe it or not, there is a subset of us Christians who came to faith because it made sense. We tend to be ashamed of the Christians that are most often portrayed in the media. We can typically defend our belief with reason and solid premises rather than some strong emotional tie to it.
Oops Slashdotters got switched to sandlotters by my spell check, I guess that is what I get for using a different dictionary than my usual custom one...oh well enjoy.
So now are we going to get a bunch of jokes on how it takes 2 years to have good 'fakes' made? In my experience Sandlotters aren't typically very tolerant of Christian philosophy, or events.
As a Rational Christian, I am excited about this material being released. Debates will be much more entertaining and edifying, with some good old material to validate certain arguments and invalidate others.
Regardless of your Religious background, the dead sea scrolls are very important and to have them readily available for those who speak the language is exciting for many reasons.
2 Years though, at least this shows you how seriously people take preserving historical documents like this.
My big concern is over the principle that once these are made publicly digitally available, they will be easily tampered with. How are we going to be able to validate the good copies from the publicly tampered ones? From a technical standpoint is there anyway to protect things like this so the average Jo knows which is real and which is not?
We have been looking into the Texas memory solutions, they are very impressive but I too wonder when this might be a viable commercially sold solution.
Family: Family denotes a group of people affiliated by consanguinity, affinity, and co-residence. Although the concept of consanguinity originally referred to relations by "blood," many anthropologists have argued that one must understand the notion of "blood" metaphorically, and that many societies understand 'family' through other concepts rather than through genetic distance. -Wikipedia
Of course now many people never experience a stable family so it is no surprise that no one knows what it is.
Well morally I follow Christian principles, at least well reasoned ones, there are a lot of principles people call 'christian' which really aren't. However, as a christian they violate a whole slew of them, but to be fair so do the republicans but I digress...
For me the family values in question are mainly the stance on Pro-Choice, which logic says is interfering with another human life. However, I cannot figure out why the democrats are on that platform, maybe they are wavering now, just seems a bit inconsistent with other policies. But in general policies that democrats have pushed regarding minors, have not lead me to believe that they really have a solid agenda for the stability of the family. Of course the Reps really hasn't don't a fantastic job with the whole no child left behind junk or their neglect of welfare reform. But the Democrats seem to have that whole "Takes a village to raise a Child" mentality which suggests that they dont care too much for the 2 parent family. But I have not read the book on the matter and do agree with the idea that we all need to be examples for children.
But Hey, I am not a political Sci guy, just someone who tries to get a good leader in office that will reflect my principles.
I wouldn't say Democrats are morally superior, rather they are morally ignorant swaying whichever way is not mainstream thinking. I would say that each have moral issues they are watching out for. Republicans are defunct morally when it comes to business politics, and democrats are defunct on family standards. But each to his own, of course some people would say I am morally defunct for being a registered independent. Hell, I would be a hard core democrat if it wasn't for their horrid objection to my moral principles.
Considering that most people on here have difficulty with latin terms I would normally stick to terms found in urban dictionaries. The term may not be acceptable in a thesis per se, but this use is completely acceptable in the blogosphere.
However it is always entertaining to hear from you grammar elitists that think that syntax and semantics are not fluid.
Well I tinkered with MMO for a bit, 9 months or so. I agree with you, this could be accomplished by the devs looking at it from a different angle. Instead of creating the content persay, they should allow the gamers themselves to create the conquests. EG, faction A could steal the princess from faction B, gaining honor and recognition in the wake. Faction B's members try to get the princess back, or steal something of importance or bargain with Faction A to take out Faction Cs defenses.
Let the game rules be changed to PVP style where the gamers themselves are in control, much more robust than a 1,2,3 conquest method. Thus why PVP is sooooo popular in WoW.
Depends on what your efficiency goal is, if saving money and reserving fuel is your goal then mission achieved. But more MPG doesn't necessarily mean lower emissions to help with the environmental effects of gas.
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When you all started out, what route did you take to pick up the server setup and maintenance skills you have now? Is there anything in particular that you would recommend to someone who has excellent skills with consumer PCs and servers but is a total newbie to corporate and enterprise networking and servers?
The guy is asking how to work with serving apps in general, he is light years from optimizing them. Like most noobs they post something not knowing what the hell they are doing, way over their heads, asking about something trying to be smart by saying I am trying to set up a PDC in server 2008, but cannot get my exchange 2007 running because it says I am getting a conflict with another IP. Reading things like this and the question in this forum make me shiver and want to scream because there are so many things wrong with the statements I barely know where to start. And in my example the guy was thinking there was just an IP problem, when in actuality "Can open, Worms everywhere".
Taking a job where you don't have any experience is fine when you have someone to learn from. However, having cleaned up my fair share of messes, or as I call them 'live learning environments'. I would suggest you start working for someone with experience AND play in a virtual environment.
Virtualization is the future but this career field is beyond the infantile stage of hiring someone with no experience and having them in charge of your business. Entry level admins aren't THAT expensive. What do I mean by that? Most IT workers can halt a business if not destroy it completely with less than a day's work. There is a certain working order to getting to know how to do things right. Do tech work, watching the seasoned admins do their job well and getting in on the front lines. When you have learned all you can from them, move on to a new business or move up where you are. Don't take someones business and brag about how good you are because you are too proud to take an entry level position. Then then call up /. crying because you are in over your head.
I mean good lord, the number of people in the last 6 months I have had to work with in forums because they didnt understand what FSMO roles were, or what a port was, or get this having to clean up a router because the idiot thought that /24 meant 1-24. (their router had been like that for almost a year).
My advice? Quit and take a job where you can learn from someone, check your ego and learn. All you are going to do by yourself is pick up a bunch of bad habits and a HUGE ego because no one is going to be there to tell you how much of an idiot you are being.
Man that sucks evidentally someone posted this before me, I actually picked this out in the mysterious future because it was perfect but got busy and forgot to submit it quickly.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: It's a boyhood fantasy... I must have seen this ship hundreds of times in the Smithsonian but I was never able to touch it.
Lieutenant Commander Data: Sir, does tactile contact alter your perception of the Phoenix?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Oh, yes! For humans, touch can connect you to an object in a very personal way, make it seem more real.
[Data also puts his hand on The Phoenix]
Lieutenant Commander Data: I am detecting imperfections in the titanium casing... temperature variations in the fuel manifold... it is no more "real" to me now than it was a moment ago.
Cmdr. Deanna Troi: [observing from a catwalk] Would you three like to be alone?
BWAHAHAHAHA! _wipes tear away_....you flunked English lit didn't you?
Exactly, now you may not get the Wow grinding kiddies over, but I am quite certain with the burnout rate of these games, something like this would be fantastic and would attract enough players to generate a nice income. heck just look at games like Kings of Chaos, viral games where recruitment is priority #1. Being part of a game guild that stole the Grail from another guild, or currently holds the most relics is great. Or being hired by a guild to use your rouge skills to become a spy in another guild and steal an item for a nice lump sum would be fun. heck even in WoW we see some of this when people try to raid Org or the undercity.
Well the idea being, that there are enough items and holding one affects your entire guild. So rather than a singular quest you get a guild quest where you (like arthur) get a group together to benefit the whole.
I contend that MMOs wont get to this level of questing again until we go back to unique items. Eg the holy grail gaining a faction special privileges like +2 to all skills and only one can be in a realm/server at a time. Then the players can quest over it and battle and gain things that way. As the grail goes from faction to faction they can either guard it themselves or they can use resources to put it in an adequately difficult location. Have enough items like this and you get quests defined by players rather than the grind of doing it over and over again. As a guild gets more and more of the unique items it would get more powerful as a whole. You would get small uprisings with people trying to take over the guild and people moving around rouge style stealing items. It would be fantastic game play. Princesses giving special trade privileges, Relics gaining stats, deities granting favor.
ahh but I am back daydreaming again. People love gear grinding too much. Thus the reason I quit Wow.
This book though seems to point in the right direction though. I love questing, rather than the goal being button finding or getting to lvl 70, an emotional satisfaction is attached to completing a lengthy storyline. In WoW there is absolutely no attachment to any NPC in that game unless you went through Warcraft 1,2,and 3. But it is good to see that there is enough interest in the Quest problem to generate a book about it.
The real question is, is this more difficult to spoof than the current paper method? Anyone can fake a paper ballot, it is a small subset who can carry out these electronic attacks, although the consequences of this smaller subset's maliciousness could be worse.
So my question is, how do we maintain Gnosticism without giving up rights to vote?
Ya I had a friend do this with a web server, for kicks of course, the sucker ran fantastic. Was some kind of nonconductive fluid he got on the cheap. Only trick was he had to separate the CD-ROM and hard drive but other than that it ran for a long time, fans and all.
Ditto! Wow you actually do find useful stuff on /. Only too me 6 years to find that out.... :)
As opposed to the bible thumping corner screamers that believe whatever they are told. Believe it or not, there is a subset of us Christians who came to faith because it made sense. We tend to be ashamed of the Christians that are most often portrayed in the media. We can typically defend our belief with reason and solid premises rather than some strong emotional tie to it.
Oops Slashdotters got switched to sandlotters by my spell check, I guess that is what I get for using a different dictionary than my usual custom one...oh well enjoy.
As a Rational Christian, I am excited about this material being released. Debates will be much more entertaining and edifying, with some good old material to validate certain arguments and invalidate others.
Regardless of your Religious background, the dead sea scrolls are very important and to have them readily available for those who speak the language is exciting for many reasons.
2 Years though, at least this shows you how seriously people take preserving historical documents like this.
My big concern is over the principle that once these are made publicly digitally available, they will be easily tampered with. How are we going to be able to validate the good copies from the publicly tampered ones? From a technical standpoint is there anyway to protect things like this so the average Jo knows which is real and which is not?
We have been looking into the Texas memory solutions, they are very impressive but I too wonder when this might be a viable commercially sold solution.
Family: Family denotes a group of people affiliated by consanguinity, affinity, and co-residence. Although the concept of consanguinity originally referred to relations by "blood," many anthropologists have argued that one must understand the notion of "blood" metaphorically, and that many societies understand 'family' through other concepts rather than through genetic distance. -Wikipedia
Of course now many people never experience a stable family so it is no surprise that no one knows what it is.
For me the family values in question are mainly the stance on Pro-Choice, which logic says is interfering with another human life. However, I cannot figure out why the democrats are on that platform, maybe they are wavering now, just seems a bit inconsistent with other policies. But in general policies that democrats have pushed regarding minors, have not lead me to believe that they really have a solid agenda for the stability of the family. Of course the Reps really hasn't don't a fantastic job with the whole no child left behind junk or their neglect of welfare reform. But the Democrats seem to have that whole "Takes a village to raise a Child" mentality which suggests that they dont care too much for the 2 parent family. But I have not read the book on the matter and do agree with the idea that we all need to be examples for children.
But Hey, I am not a political Sci guy, just someone who tries to get a good leader in office that will reflect my principles.
Amen to your disclosure ;)
I wouldn't say Democrats are morally superior, rather they are morally ignorant swaying whichever way is not mainstream thinking. I would say that each have moral issues they are watching out for. Republicans are defunct morally when it comes to business politics, and democrats are defunct on family standards. But each to his own, of course some people would say I am morally defunct for being a registered independent. Hell, I would be a hard core democrat if it wasn't for their horrid objection to my moral principles.
Not so much as people in general are oblivious to risk. As much as we are a lazy species, and capitalism pays full respect to that fact.
Touché
Case and point for you, there are doctors offices that refuse to deal with insurance companies. Flat rate offices. $100 to have a mole removed, $75 for a gynecological exam, only article I found was this one which wasnt the one I was looking for; http://cronespeaks.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/when-doctors-opt-out-of-accepting-insurance/
However it is always entertaining to hear from you grammar elitists that think that syntax and semantics are not fluid.
Well I tinkered with MMO for a bit, 9 months or so. I agree with you, this could be accomplished by the devs looking at it from a different angle. Instead of creating the content persay, they should allow the gamers themselves to create the conquests. EG, faction A could steal the princess from faction B, gaining honor and recognition in the wake. Faction B's members try to get the princess back, or steal something of importance or bargain with Faction A to take out Faction Cs defenses. Let the game rules be changed to PVP style where the gamers themselves are in control, much more robust than a 1,2,3 conquest method. Thus why PVP is sooooo popular in WoW.
Depends on what your efficiency goal is, if saving money and reserving fuel is your goal then mission achieved. But more MPG doesn't necessarily mean lower emissions to help with the environmental effects of gas.