FireWire has been run at 800Mbps. Each FireWire cable contains 4 data transmission lines. When any 2 are transmitting data, the other 2 provide clock. So, that's 800 / 2 = 400MHz through up to 6 feet of unbuffered cable. How are you going to go any faster at all without making it parallel?
And then there's the complete mystery of what they mean by "serial graphics bus" anyway, since a graphics bus in the sense of FireWire (carrying digital frame data from a camera to a display) is nothing like graphics bus in the sense of AGP (carrying 3D commands, pixel data, etc. from the processor to a graphics card).
By the way, pixels have a depth of 24 bits anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
First off, Apple didn't invent USB. That's a Microsoft standard that Apple popularized.
Second, Apple doesn't charge royalties for FireWire devices beyond a very reasonable 50-cent-per-port charge, which I'll bet is less than M$ charges for USB or plans to charge for USB 2.0 . The main royalties that Apple demands are for use of its "FireWire" brand name, which is copyrighted. Anyone can just label their products as IEEE 1394 (and many companies do) and go around this limit. Since 1394 is cross-platform anyway, and FireWire is identified with the Macintosh product line, companies can advertise compatibility with 1394 on Windows by labelling them as such.
Also, don't dis a good standard. FireWire is very convenient: it allows hot-plugging easily. I've never heard about trouble getting FireWire to work properly. Just about everyone I know who sets up a lot of computers has "plug-n-cry" horror stories about fussy USB. Microsoft's choice of putting only 500mW of power through USB is pointless, and makes it such that you need [to buy, and pay royalties to M$] powered hubs to use any reasonable number of devices. FireWire carries 20W, enough to actually power devices, and it allows daisy-chaining of devices so you don't need hubs. Do we want to replace this standard with another USB? Do we want a specialized serial graphics bus from Intel to split everything into a buch of different standards so we have to buy more equipment, increasing royalties? I think not. Let Apple (and Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Western Digital, etc.) be.
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According to the article, AGP8X will use a 32-bit bus at 533MHz.
This is a parallel bus. He's referring to the "future serial graphics bus" that would follow it. FireWire is currently 400Mbps over four transmission lines, making it serial. This is only mentioned vaguely, and I can't imagine AGP being replaced by anything serial, but I agree that the world doesn't need Intel coming out with *another* serial graphics bus.
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They're claiming that making the OS free would only save 3% off the cost of using Windows - that Windows is only 3% of the cost of the server, which is flat BS. (Or they power their servers with a dedicated electrical generator, which generates electricity by burning money.)
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This message is also being posted to MacSlash.com... this is the problem with one/. linking to another:v). With Linux supported on IBM "Big Iron" AS/400 and RS/6000 64-bit computers with Power3 processors (and support for the Power4 when it comes out), and POP computers on the way, what's the future for third-party high-end PPC RISC workstations? If IBM could be convinced to make a lower-end variant of their 64-bit workstation/supercomputer processor line, rather than a high-end variant of their 32-bit embedded processor line as they do now, PPC would have a much easier time competing on the desktop market. IBM doesn't sell these chips, but does anyone have any idea what they might cost if they decided to?
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Art museums are universally deplored for setting new standards in passivity and boringness. Some people claim that art is "interesting" (new-age BS). Art museums are lifeless with no content.
Dude, Myst was beautiful. It was like 5 years of complex 3d modelling and texture mapping, all done on 68040 Macs way before the Pentium came out. You're joking, right? When was the last time you saw a mousepad or a poster with a beautiful scene from Doom?
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I wonder what would happen if they just announced that they would be having certain missions. Then, the pressure would be on the White House & Congress to deny the public their space missions.
NASA would sure make some enemies with me leading them...
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So what's wrong with the Heterotroph Hypothesis? Even if you prove that microbes might have landed here from a meteor, you have to explain how they got there. The possibility of life starting somewhere else, then surviving being blasted off their home planet, travelling [b/m]illions of years through space, and landing here would be lower than the possibility of life just starting here, given the ideal conditions that evidence points to. Wouldn't it?
I agree with some other posters here... I don't think the scientists actually wonder if life came from other planets.
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Why do so many people think CGI has something to do with computer graphics? You can't combine the acronyms SGI (Silicon Graphics International, a company that makes powerful graphics computers) with CG (Computer Generated/Graphics). It doesn't work. CGI stands for Common Gateway Interface, and it's the way web pages can be made dynamic by altering the URLs sent to the server. It has absolutely nothing to do with computer graphics. What would the "I" stand for?
Sorry to rant... I'm not usually this angry:v).
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Yes, sorta. Apple's PowerMac G4 Technote has info on the keyboard. Volume up/down/mute and Eject are located above clear,=,/, and * on the numeric keypad, so you can actually use ResEdit to give them whatever useful symbols you want. On the PowerBook, where those functions areon the function keys, you must hold down a key marked "Fn" to get the special feature (or use the Keyboard control panel to set it to behave as a function key w/ Fn). Apple wouldn't take away something like that completely:v).
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From Apple's Developer Technote: Four DIMM slots for 168-pin PC100 DIMMs (dual inline memory modules) using SDRAM (synchronous dynamic access memory) or ESDRAM (enhanced SDRAM) devices. This means that the G4 is compatible w/ PC125/PC133 RAM. For more info see the pdf.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work... foo = bar/*myPtr;
Damn Extrans! The old PowerMacs came with either an HPV or AV card. The 7100/8100 were the only desktop computers I know of that supported two monitors out of the box - an AppleVision off the motherboard circutry and a standard monitor off the HPV/AV card. VideoVision was a video-editing package from Radius. AppleVision was the brand-name of Apple's line of monitors w/ speakers built in. I sure hope the audio out is analog, too. Besides, the technology that USB and FireWire replace (ADB and SCSI) were digital to begin with, so it's pointless anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work... foo = bar/*myPtr;
The old PowerMacs came with either an HPV or AV card. The 7100/8100 were the only desktop computers I know of that supported two monitors out of the box - an AppleVision off the motherboard circutry and a standard monitor off the HPV/AV card. VideoVision was a video-editing package from Radius. AppleVision was the brand-name of Apple's line of monitors w/ speakers built in. I sure hope the audio out is analog, too. Besides, the technology that USB and FireWire replace (ADB and SCSI) were digital to begin with, so it's pointless anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work... foo = bar/*myPtr;
IMHO, this is one of the biggest advantages of having a Mac. My PowerBook can plug into a second monitor and use its 8MB of VRAM to drive both at decent resolutions. Windows 98 added this feature (a full decade after the Mac did - in 1988) but from what I've heard, it's spotty and unstable. Multiple-monitor support often requires slight modification of the way graphics code is written (all drawing commands have to be sent to both cards), and because Windows apps do generally funky nonstandard stuff more often, M$ instability seems to make sense (tho I'm not a Windows programmer). Multiple-monitor support was added at the same time as color support in the Mac.
Personally, I like Napster, and I think that this article being posted after all the pro-Napster ones that have run in the past shows how unfocussed and two-faced/. can be. But besides that, this guy's just using an inefficient method of posting shit. I read somewhere in this thread that someone's been encoding/dev/random to MP3 and posting that. This would be better, but why encode it to MP3? Why even store it on your disk? If you really want to jam Napster, make a program to search randomly and generate huge lists of songs. Then, have it log in to the server claiming to have all these songs. It doesn't need to do anything if a song is requested - just let the request time out. (Or let it almosttime out, then start sending noise.) This would be so much easier than writing an actual Napster client. It could run in the background be turned down when you want to use your bandwidth. Most importantly, give copies to all yer anti-MP3 musician friends.
You might just discover that there aren't enough big-time anti-MP3 musicians to succeed in causing any damage. If there are, tho, the process of getting MP3s would be like pulling teeth. If I had to go through 3+ unsuccessful attempts to get a single song every time, I would use Napster a lot less often (I'm already discouraged by its general unreliability).
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Thank you for writing the first informational message about FireWire I've seen here. I'd mod you up.
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
The fact is simpler: Intel doesn't get royalties on 1394.
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
And then there's the complete mystery of what they mean by "serial graphics bus" anyway, since a graphics bus in the sense of FireWire (carrying digital frame data from a camera to a display) is nothing like graphics bus in the sense of AGP (carrying 3D commands, pixel data, etc. from the processor to a graphics card).
By the way, pixels have a depth of 24 bits anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
Second, Apple doesn't charge royalties for FireWire devices beyond a very reasonable 50-cent-per-port charge, which I'll bet is less than M$ charges for USB or plans to charge for USB 2.0 . The main royalties that Apple demands are for use of its "FireWire" brand name, which is copyrighted. Anyone can just label their products as IEEE 1394 (and many companies do) and go around this limit. Since 1394 is cross-platform anyway, and FireWire is identified with the Macintosh product line, companies can advertise compatibility with 1394 on Windows by labelling them as such.
Also, don't dis a good standard. FireWire is very convenient: it allows hot-plugging easily. I've never heard about trouble getting FireWire to work properly. Just about everyone I know who sets up a lot of computers has "plug-n-cry" horror stories about fussy USB. Microsoft's choice of putting only 500mW of power through USB is pointless, and makes it such that you need [to buy, and pay royalties to M$] powered hubs to use any reasonable number of devices. FireWire carries 20W, enough to actually power devices, and it allows daisy-chaining of devices so you don't need hubs. Do we want to replace this standard with another USB? Do we want a specialized serial graphics bus from Intel to split everything into a buch of different standards so we have to buy more equipment, increasing royalties? I think not. Let Apple (and Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Western Digital, etc.) be.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
This is a parallel bus. He's referring to the "future serial graphics bus" that would follow it. FireWire is currently 400Mbps over four transmission lines, making it serial. This is only mentioned vaguely, and I can't imagine AGP being replaced by anything serial, but I agree that the world doesn't need Intel coming out with *another* serial graphics bus.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
They're claiming that making the OS free would only save 3% off the cost of using Windows - that Windows is only 3% of the cost of the server, which is flat BS. (Or they power their servers with a dedicated electrical generator, which generates electricity by burning money.)
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
This message is also being posted to MacSlash.com... this is the problem with one /. linking to another :v) .
With Linux supported on IBM "Big Iron" AS/400 and RS/6000 64-bit computers with Power3 processors (and support for the Power4 when it comes out), and POP computers on the way, what's the future for third-party high-end PPC RISC workstations? If IBM could be convinced to make a lower-end variant of their 64-bit workstation/supercomputer processor line, rather than a high-end variant of their 32-bit embedded processor line as they do now, PPC would have a much easier time competing on the desktop market.
IBM doesn't sell these chips, but does anyone have any idea what they might cost if they decided to?
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
Don't you have, er, work for it to do?
Also, is YDL ever 64-bit? This might have something to do w/ limited RAM availability.
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PLEASE moderate this guy down. If you must make the mistake of looking at the links he's posted, you'll see why.
One digusting b#stard.
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
Art museums are universally deplored for setting new standards in passivity and boringness. Some people claim that art is "interesting" (new-age BS). Art museums are lifeless with no content.
Dude, Myst was beautiful. It was like 5 years of complex 3d modelling and texture mapping, all done on 68040 Macs way before the Pentium came out. You're joking, right? When was the last time you saw a mousepad or a poster with a beautiful scene from Doom?
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
Sure it's not half a kilometer?
NASA's not either!
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He's got springs in his legs and a propeller in his head.
OK, I'm gonna stop making stupid posts now.
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Over what time scale?
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Grateful Dead's already done it...
It's evidently true that all the great aeronautical achievements took place over twenty years ago.
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That's why we need to personally support the missile and space programs of countries like North Korea and Pakistan.
Grassroots activism is the only way to get what you want, politically.
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foo = bar/*myPtr;
I wonder what would happen if they just announced that they would be having certain missions. Then, the pressure would be on the White House & Congress to deny the public their space missions.
NASA would sure make some enemies with me leading them...
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
So what's wrong with the Heterotroph Hypothesis?
Even if you prove that microbes might have landed here from a meteor, you have to explain how they got there. The possibility of life starting somewhere else, then surviving being blasted off their home planet, travelling [b/m]illions of years through space, and landing here would be lower than the possibility of life just starting here, given the ideal conditions that evidence points to. Wouldn't it?
I agree with some other posters here... I don't think the scientists actually wonder if life came from other planets.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
Why do so many people think CGI has something to do with computer graphics? You can't combine the acronyms SGI (Silicon Graphics International, a company that makes powerful graphics computers) with CG (Computer Generated/Graphics). It doesn't work.
:v) .
CGI stands for Common Gateway Interface, and it's the way web pages can be made dynamic by altering the URLs sent to the server. It has absolutely nothing to do with computer graphics. What would the "I" stand for?
Sorry to rant... I'm not usually this angry
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
Yes, sorta. Apple's PowerMac G4 Technote has info on the keyboard. Volume up/down/mute and Eject are located above clear,=,/, and * on the numeric keypad, so you can actually use ResEdit to give them whatever useful symbols you want. .
On the PowerBook, where those functions areon the function keys, you must hold down a key marked "Fn" to get the special feature (or use the Keyboard control panel to set it to behave as a function key w/ Fn). Apple wouldn't take away something like that completely:v)
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
From Apple's Developer Technote:
Four DIMM slots for 168-pin PC100 DIMMs (dual inline memory modules) using SDRAM (synchronous dynamic access memory) or ESDRAM (enhanced SDRAM) devices.
This means that the G4 is compatible w/ PC125/PC133 RAM.
For more info see the pdf.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
Damn Extrans!
The old PowerMacs came with either an HPV or AV card. The 7100/8100 were the only desktop computers I know of that supported two monitors out of the box - an AppleVision off the motherboard circutry and a standard monitor off the HPV/AV card.
VideoVision was a video-editing package from Radius. AppleVision was the brand-name of Apple's line of monitors w/ speakers built in.
I sure hope the audio out is analog, too. Besides, the technology that USB and FireWire replace (ADB and SCSI) were digital to begin with, so it's pointless anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
The old PowerMacs came with either an HPV or AV card. The 7100/8100 were the only desktop computers I know of that supported two monitors out of the box - an AppleVision off the motherboard circutry and a standard monitor off the HPV/AV card.
VideoVision was a video-editing package from Radius. AppleVision was the brand-name of Apple's line of monitors w/ speakers built in.
I sure hope the audio out is analog, too. Besides, the technology that USB and FireWire replace (ADB and SCSI) were digital to begin with, so it's pointless anyway.
Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;
IMHO, this is one of the biggest advantages of having a Mac. My PowerBook can plug into a second monitor and use its 8MB of VRAM to drive both at decent resolutions.
Windows 98 added this feature (a full decade after the Mac did - in 1988) but from what I've heard, it's spotty and unstable. Multiple-monitor support often requires slight modification of the way graphics code is written (all drawing commands have to be sent to both cards), and because Windows apps do generally funky nonstandard stuff more often, M$ instability seems to make sense (tho I'm not a Windows programmer). Multiple-monitor support was added at the same time as color support in the Mac.
Ramble on!
foo = bar/*myPtr;
Personally, I like Napster, and I think that this article being posted after all the pro-Napster ones that have run in the past shows how unfocussed and two-faced /. can be. /dev/random to MP3 and posting that. This would be better, but why encode it to MP3? Why even store it on your disk?
But besides that, this guy's just using an inefficient method of posting shit.
I read somewhere in this thread that someone's been encoding
If you really want to jam Napster, make a program to search randomly and generate huge lists of songs. Then, have it log in to the server claiming to have all these songs. It doesn't need to do anything if a song is requested - just let the request time out. (Or let it almosttime out, then start sending noise.) This would be so much easier than writing an actual Napster client. It could run in the background be turned down when you want to use your bandwidth. Most importantly, give copies to all yer anti-MP3 musician friends.
You might just discover that there aren't enough big-time anti-MP3 musicians to succeed in causing any damage.
If there are, tho, the process of getting MP3s would be like pulling teeth. If I had to go through 3+ unsuccessful attempts to get a single song every time, I would use Napster a lot less often (I'm already discouraged by its general unreliability).
Ramble on!
foo = bar/*myPtr;
I think this might be a good time to link to TacoHell. Just feels like it.
Ramble on!
foo = bar/*myPtr;