There is only one decent solution to this situation--the expansion of fair use to all non-commercial activiy. If I'm not making money on it, then I can share and download all I like.
Anything else requires someone else controlling my actions online.
Don't get me wrong...if I put up a file sharing website, and have ads on it, I should be on the chopping block. But p2p should be protected.
Otherwise you might as well just fold up the internet and go home--which isn't going to happen.
You are quite right, but still it doesn't justify literally torching this valuable, and still not-rewewable resource. I'm sure you would agree that oil is unbelievably useful. But we just burn it to go zoom. What madness.
BUT...you miss an important and relevant point. Was it the whale oil companies who turned to drilling it out of the ground? Was Standard Oil previously known as Standard Whale? No.
Just as before, it will be new companies, and Google being one of them would not surprise me one bit.
The problem with established industries is that they attract people who are NOT innovators to come and run them. It does not require great innovation and drive to run and existing enterprise in a well established industry. They know one way to do things, the way they've been trained. That's why hey haven't started they're own startups (for the most part). The music and entertainment industries are another good example of this phenomenon.
Point being...the big oil boys will fight tooth and nail to preserve their industry, and will NOT be the energy providers of the future.
I would expect these customers simply don't understand all these encryption concepts at all, they just saw "secure" and figured they could do their illegal shit with it safely.
I dunno. Long and short of it, is these folks may be so crazy desperate to do their illegal shit that they would take a chance like that, anyway, may indicate that they really sould be investigated by the FBI and friends.
It's about interface. I capitulated to sending binaries via email a LONG time ago, because even I realized that one click is vastly simpler than 20. It's not laziness, it's efficiency.
Greedy==stupid==greedy. Most of the media companies are run by people who inherited a rather old business model. They are far from entrepreneurs. If they were entrepreneurial, they would have started their own companies. They are followers.
They'd better start learning fast though, 'cause their time is running out to avoid becoming Darwinized.
Tell me about it. A few years ago I stared reading Patrick O'brien ("Master and Commander" series--which is superb, btw), and after getting tired of picking up my giant unabridged Wester's every page or so (those Brits do love their thesauri, and O'brien was learned as well), I started looking for an electronic version. Only version I could find was for Palm, so I finally went and got my first Palm Pilot. So that was my killer app for that.
Thing is, whenever I let the battery go completely dead, the license disappears, and I have to search around for the license and re-enter it. Plus, I know that it's lifetime is limited to the lifetime of Palm OS.
However, at least in this case, I did benefit by being able to carry my big dictionary with me with the book I was reading to do constant lookups.
rasto p.s. Check out the first definition of "junk" sometime...and you'll see why you need the big guy for reading those books.
Agreed. But better than the alternative, currently.
Actually I advocate a mix of clean power sources--only a madman would advocate an all-nuclear solution. But it is a viable solution for what is a really desperate situation.
Unless you want to go without power, which I do not!
You seem to have a lot of faith in the Phd scientists in that show. Why not all the many, many more Phd's who say otherwise?
You seem concerned that some people will do anything to achieve their goals, as if there is some mega environmental group that stands to benefit. All the while ignoring the vastly more likely scenario of entrenched interests (who actually have vast sums of money at their disposal) defending their wealth with nonsense like the "documentary" you referenced.
You trust science to put a man on the moon, and build the fucking computer you're reading this on, but not to save your life.
No, I will not, and I despise Windows as much as the next slashdotter. With a simple firewall and a router, don't run IE, not running a server, and admittedly a little technical knowledge, I have been virus/malware free, well, forever. I don't ever "click here" randomly and stuff, you know?
You only need AV software if you're technically incompetent. I realize those people are out there, but I'm just saying it's not necessary if you understand a few things about how computers work.
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I mean seriously...if it's evil, they're all for it. Makes you wonder.
There's no such thing as absolute truth? Really?
Then how do you reckon the universe actually...works...and stuff. Theories and opinions?
I'm still trying to figure out what it is you buy when you "buy a song" from one of these services, like ITunes.
What have you got to show for your money?
Why on earth is the EU funding something like this? Do they really think they'll do a better job sorting this sort of thing out than private industry?
'course, the worst thing is that he bought it for his girlfriend--not his wife. Now he's got to get another one.
I hate when that happens.
There is only one decent solution to this situation--the expansion of fair use to all non-commercial activiy. If I'm not making money on it, then I can share and download all I like.
Anything else requires someone else controlling my actions online.
Don't get me wrong...if I put up a file sharing website, and have ads on it, I should be on the chopping block. But p2p should be protected.
Otherwise you might as well just fold up the internet and go home--which isn't going to happen.
You are quite right, but still it doesn't justify literally torching this valuable, and still not-rewewable resource. I'm sure you would agree that oil is unbelievably useful. But we just burn it to go zoom. What madness.
BUT...you miss an important and relevant point. Was it the whale oil companies who turned to drilling it out of the ground? Was Standard Oil previously known as Standard Whale? No.
Just as before, it will be new companies, and Google being one of them would not surprise me one bit.
The problem with established industries is that they attract people who are NOT innovators to come and run them. It does not require great innovation and drive to run and existing enterprise in a well established industry. They know one way to do things, the way they've been trained. That's why hey haven't started they're own startups (for the most part). The music and entertainment industries are another good example of this phenomenon.
Point being...the big oil boys will fight tooth and nail to preserve their industry, and will NOT be the energy providers of the future.
What a terrific explanation. Thanks!
What makes you so sure? I think just the opposite--there's lots of money to be made.
It's interesting to see the different winners and losers in other countries.
I would expect these customers simply don't understand all these encryption concepts at all, they just saw "secure" and figured they could do their illegal shit with it safely.
I dunno. Long and short of it, is these folks may be so crazy desperate to do their illegal shit that they would take a chance like that, anyway, may indicate that they really sould be investigated by the FBI and friends.
It's about interface. I capitulated to sending binaries via email a LONG time ago, because even I realized that one click is vastly simpler than 20. It's not laziness, it's efficiency.
Don't you mean "UR FIRED"?
You're assuming they're guilty, which is the only reason you'd be concerned that they might escape community backlash.
:-) You're wrong to do that when all you know is what you saw on tv or read here. Veeeery wrong.
Greedy==stupid==greedy. Most of the media companies are run by people who inherited a rather old business model. They are far from entrepreneurs. If they were entrepreneurial, they would have started their own companies. They are followers.
They'd better start learning fast though, 'cause their time is running out to avoid becoming Darwinized.
Tell me about it. A few years ago I stared reading Patrick O'brien ("Master and Commander" series--which is superb, btw), and after getting tired of picking up my giant unabridged Wester's every page or so (those Brits do love their thesauri, and O'brien was learned as well), I started looking for an electronic version. Only version I could find was for Palm, so I finally went and got my first Palm Pilot. So that was my killer app for that.
Thing is, whenever I let the battery go completely dead, the license disappears, and I have to search around for the license and re-enter it. Plus, I know that it's lifetime is limited to the lifetime of Palm OS.
However, at least in this case, I did benefit by being able to carry my big dictionary with me with the book I was reading to do constant lookups.
rasto
p.s. Check out the first definition of "junk" sometime...and you'll see why you need the big guy for reading those books.
It's really no different than the music biz--just lacking a standard, open format and a cool portable device to read books on.
This device....isn't it.
I'll remember that next time I want to do some illegal internet shit. What is your address again?
Seriously..it's nice...but you should reconsider. Or maybe give accounts to your neighbors you want to share with.
They seem to be betting the future is an un-free internet. Interesting, eh?
the way Dick Cheney sucks up money. And shits out American soldier's blood!
heh, you're only MS's Charlie Brown if you keep trying to kick the ball. The Zune has not sold well, hence, we are not.
Just because it's "out there" doens't mean it's doing well!
Agreed. But better than the alternative, currently.
Actually I advocate a mix of clean power sources--only a madman would advocate an all-nuclear solution. But it is a viable solution for what is a really desperate situation.
Unless you want to go without power, which I do not!
You seem to have a lot of faith in the Phd scientists in that show. Why not all the many, many more Phd's who say otherwise?
You seem concerned that some people will do anything to achieve their goals, as if there is some mega environmental group that stands to benefit. All the while ignoring the vastly more likely scenario of entrenched interests (who actually have vast sums of money at their disposal) defending their wealth with nonsense like the "documentary" you referenced.
You trust science to put a man on the moon, and build the fucking computer you're reading this on, but not to save your life.
No, I will not, and I despise Windows as much as the next slashdotter. With a simple firewall and a router, don't run IE, not running a server, and admittedly a little technical knowledge, I have been virus/malware free, well, forever. I don't ever "click here" randomly and stuff, you know?
You only need AV software if you're technically incompetent. I realize those people are out there, but I'm just saying it's not necessary if you understand a few things about how computers work.