Do you honestly think MS' product will even attempt to run if you haven't been prompt with your monthly payment? Shudder to think that MS would actually change their ways. Think again sucker. MS is more greedy and avaricious than TiVO ever could hope to be. The number one reason is that they can get away with it.
At least with tivo it *is* possible to hack around this stuff because it's linux and has been reverse engineered. I wonder what kind of bastardized OS MS puts on their money sinks? Surely nothing that can be reverse engineered. Why dont you MS shills crawl back under the rock you came out of.
I wish these MS astroturfers would go back under the rock they crawled out from - or at least go back to starbucks and buy more $5 coffee - whatever. Just leave me, us, the fuck alone. All the pro ms posts have "deceit" "fallacy" and "Employee of MS" written all over them. You'd have to be a fool not to see it. Sigh...
Get it through your fucking head. Leave me the fuck alone MS. I'm not some company you can go around abusing. I'm an individual. Excercising my Constitutional rights to peacable assembly and free speach. Stop abusing me. You wont get any money from me. Ever. Stop trying.
Dinky web servers?
I just read a story that IBM was contracted to make a 5-node linux cluster for the NHL.com website. And just in time for the finals, where they will be streaming audio and video to boot.
On 5 nodes.
Rinky dink...
Heh Maybe to a paid microsoft employee or BSD zealot that considers 5-10% performance improvement vitally significant.. (hey bob, did you get that new Pentium6 5 Gigahurtz processor yet?)
Hahaha, Linus Torvalds actually programs... I'm not sure what bill gates does besides maximising profit and satisfying his "windows everywhere" ego. The fucking cunt licker. I'm sure he's a real hoot at the parties. Hey Bill lets drink a 12 pack and kick it back for the weekend.. P'shaw. right. I'm sure Balmer is a barrell of fun too (no pun intended ehheheh).
True. (Although I think Richard Stallman venting his rage does compare.)
Richard stallman never vents rage.
He's a calm rational (though you may disagree vehemently) individual. When he gets on stage proclaiming the justness of free software and the lies and dishonesty of microsoft he's not trying eek out a few more dollars in profit from the masses. He's not trying to denounce a free-wheeling, fun-loving movement based on individual freedom and group cooperation.
Why do you want us to roll over and die while Microsoft tries its damndest to destroy our community? Do you not think they aren't trying to destroy our community? I think it's ok to be angry with Microsoft. I even think it's ok to let it out on slashdot if you so choose.
I'm having trouble identifying the motive behind your posts. Here's what I've come up with. Possibility one: You are a lonely man trying to make yourself look better in front of others. Two: you might actually
consider microsoft to be the good guys and want to forcefully defend them, even through deceitful diatribes. Three: You think that people who advocate free software are deplorable and have bad manners, and so you are trying to correct it, for their sake of course.
I'm sure if you respond, you'll say you were just trying to help us from ourselves, honest!.. Dude, lets end this charade and speak frankly. (If you respond that it was altruism, or frustration I'll know you for the phony you are)
It doesn't attempt to infect code it touches. It's goal is to form a club of Free Software users and Developers. It's not a malicious goal, although it could be harmful to proprietary software developers.
Nobody is forcing you to join the club. If you find it repulsive, make sure you aren't developing software against GPL'd programs, or make sure they are Lgpl'd. It's very simple.
Of course, if you are just an GNU basher, that's not saying very much for you personally. I can udnerstand your sentiment, but I dont think you can extrapolate sentiment to a generalized condemnation of a software license. Think hard about other people's freedoms to do whatever they damn well want to, including join a software club that furthers their interests.
Companies that use GPL software know very well what they are getting into. IBM has a literal army of lawyers analyzing every legal move the company makes. They dont consider the GPL a threat to their "intellectual property" if IBM follows a few guidelines about its use. And if they do use GPL software wisely they stand to benefit greatly. They are already wagering 1 billion dollars on GNU/Linux, a GPL'd Operating system, with the calculation that it will pay off in large measure.
Maybe you should reconsider the fallacies you've just propounded. They are obviously wrong and misleading.
You can't blame Reed for this, even though he may have duped the BSD community into relying on his code. You have to blame the BSD community for not being rigorous in figuring out what IPF's license grants as rights and what it doesn't.
For the cynic, Reed might have played an exceelent game of spike the punch. The guy attatches a seemingly innocent, personalized quasi-license on his Ipf Code, never formally putting it under BSD license. Everyone assumes that because he offered the code it is under BSD license. Woops. Little do they know that they now have no rights to use this code in any way that Reed does not like. Reed can go to Sun and extract millions of dollars for compensatory damage, and future rights to proprietize his code. BSD just got screwed.
A proper analogy would be, RMS is the architect of the Free Software movement, not the marketing director. Details matter. Structural integrity matters. These things are annoyances to the marketeer trying to seel realestate.
Actually, if you read stallman's speaches, or listen to his.ogg's, you will notice that he makes significant mention of OpenSource and how it relates to Free Software. He is disturbed by the blurring of the lines between Free Software and Open source, and emphasizes they are not the same. Then he goes on to illuminate the differences between the camps, based on his philosophy, and why it matters more to preserve Freedom than Openness. (As a homework lesson, compare and contrast Parastroika(sp) and Representative Democracy).
Rampability. The pentium 4 is expected to reach 4Ghz, possibly 5Ghz by the end of 2002.
Volume. Currently, AMD only has 2 fabs. The one in Austin is currently only producing Durons, and AMD is planning to turn it into a flash memory only fab. (Of course with.13 micron and below you get more volume for the same wafer capacity.).
My estimate for the future: AMD will be the performance chip of choice for gamers and low-end server manufacturers. AMD will increase rampability with the Hammer line, due to stretching out the pipeline and other tweaks. The X86-64 instruction set is a great strategic move. It will give 64bits addressable, and double the number of registers, not to mention getting rid of some nasty ia32 quirks when in x86-64 mode.
2) This isn't 'hidden', it's linked off the Microsoft Research IPv6 homepage, which in turn is linked off of the Current Research page (Although they want you to register if you go in that way).
WELP, It's hidden now! They took it off their webpage. No GPL for you!, microsoft says. Bahhahahaha *Watches as 10 weeks of carefully planned PR Streak across the sky like the comet the killed the dinosaurs*(link)
But only when they deny microsoft entry into the market.
Hey, I wonder if Microsoft thinks software patents are so great now? I bet Ultimate TV (their tivo rip-off - what great innovation) can do the same thing. It would be nice if Tivo sued microsoft or was otherwise able to extract billions for the right to use this patent in its rip-off products.
I want to see Ultimate TV fail. The damned thing obviously only exists because microsoft feels threatened that another "OS" could penetrate the home market. Bastards. I dont want all my devices to be MS controlled!! Lets kill the 7 headed serpent. I'll take TV, you take PC's, you over there, take Video games, and divide the rest evenly among you the rest of you.
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This isn't a troll, but I thought BeOS went kaput recently.
If they dont release the sourcecode for BeOS under a liberal license, I dont see the point in tying up your coding effort into a proprietary platform that seems to have a pretty bleak future. Maybe you could correct any of my assumptions if they are wrong? I dont know..
He repeated it many times so the data would be in cache.
This wont affect write times because write-caching is not enabled in linux by default (it's VERY dangerous). So he was only limiting the effect of the harddrive/filesystem of the source disk in the performance measurement, and leaving the test partition (reiserfs, xfs, ext2) the only bottleneck in the benchmark.
Why do slashdot editors post stories without backup research or verification, that are trollish, and probably for the sole reason that hundreds of people submitted it.
In a perevious front-page post about some Mundie PR ass-talking, CmdrWeenie said the only reason he posted the damn thing was because he was inundated with requests. Goddamnit, that's just gonna make astroturfing easy and acceptable practice for MS and other lobbying groups.
When MS really turns up the heat on linux even more than they have recently, expect Slashdot editors to follow like sheep and serve the purposes of Microsoft in their massive pr campaign. The proper behavior is to ignore trolls like Mundie and continue along on your merry way.
You know, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. A "Linux" "Hegemony" is open to competition inherently. It doesn't lock people in. FreeBSD has linux emulation. AIX has linux emulation. SCO has linux emulation. I dont see linux developers trying to stifle this competition, do you? A linux hegemony is not a corperate monopoly. It's a commoditized marketplace where all entrants are on equal footing.
A linux hegemony doesnt try to extract monopoly profits. It doesn't maliciously put companies out of business. Every can play in the linux space, if they want to. You could take FreeBSD and market it as a linux box if you wanted to.
I think the better way to phrase it is, a Hegemony of Freedom is a million times better than an Hegemony of Vendor lock-in and monopoly profits.
I would like to wrap this up though with some concluding remarks, and the leave this thread.
GTK is a great toolkit. Thousands of developers use it every day and it leaves them so happy that they can go home to their girlfriends and have sex. (I'm not sure qt developers have girlfriends). When GNOME2.0 takes over the linux desktop and KDE is left in the waste bucket, I will feel sorry, and pour malt liquer on the grave of my fallen homies. Alas, we're not all meant for this world....
How can you disprove (or prove) a subjective opinion?
I can't say whether you've proven it or not, but I can sure say you haven't given very many supporting reasons. Silly MsBob. Heh.
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You were the one who initially brought up GTK and said it was sorely lacking compared to qt.
Sorry bob, you invited this digression.
Anyway, sure, gtk's c++ bindings aren't as consistent and thorough as qt's, but they are very usable, as can be seen by the various projects that use it. Check out "gabber" a gtk-- jabber program. Seems to work fine and actually seem pretty usable.
As for the troll that gtk makes "horrendous sacrifices" to be cross-language, well that's a bit over the top. Gtk is a very versatile language, and no, it wont take advantage of every nook and cranny of every language it supports, but that's hardly a big deal. gtk just works. For the well supported languages it has bindings in, it works very well.
I know your mission is to promote qt and denigrate gtk, but please get your facts straight.
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Hey bob, chill out.
Did you hear what Xiphoid said? All those features are in gtk1.3 (development series) Check it out, and stop trolling. Lets try to be friendly and not call people morons that are trying to help you out with your facts.
My opinion: How can a toolkit call itself advanced when it doesn't even support C? At least GTK can claim that it supports over 30 language bindings (some not so well, granted). I beleive qt supports only 2. Last I checked, the only supported version of qt under the GPL was for X11/*nix.
The parent is a very insightful comment on copyrights that often get overlooked when thinking of pedagogical terms like "Freedom" and "Business". It's really important to ground yourself in the core substance of the medium. Copyright. GPL gives you freedom to use copyrighted material if you agree to free your derivative copyrighted material. What results is a virtuous circle of contribution, innovation, and community.
Microsoft can't compete with this. Their community in the early nineties was an open Dos and windows platform that businesses could profit from. They soon realized that Microsoft is hostile towards "middleware" businesses and many went out of business. In the Free Software community there is no monopolizing impulse, and businesses can happily coexist, peddling their proprietary middleware. Microsoft shut out IBM, and now IBM finds extraordinary value in linux. Other once profitable software companies that were shut out from windows by microsoft are also finding value in linux. Software companies dont want to compete with MS on their own monopoly platform. Internet companies dont want to pay licensing fees to microsoft to run their busines, avoiding draconian EULA's.
Expect more of the exodus from windows to free software. A small taste of freedom is addictive. An intravenous injection of freedom is downright intoxicating.
Now the BSDL ALLOWS this, but there is a BIG different between the Linux crowd and proprietary vendors. The idea of the BSDL is to improve aoftware by releasing. It is understood that other groups will use it.... The hypocracy in the Linux camp is astounding.
Frankly my dear, your hypocracy astounds me. You release code under the BSD (Or support the release) And yet you are enraged when people follow the terms of that license agreement. If you dont want GPL programs to use BSDl code their programs, dont release it under the BSDL. I mean, duh! You also say you prefer BSD because it is "purer". That may be well and good, but I think you should purge your logical cortex of impure fallacies. Like the fallacy that GPL users should somehow not use BSDL code - but hey, it's ok for microsoft to.
Why not just come out and say it. It's so obvious. You are jealous and elitist. You want BSD to be as successful as Linux because you beleive in the virtues of BSD. Well let me tell you something kiddo. It doesn't work that way. It's a religion. Everyone thinks their religion is best, and turns violent against disbeleivers, especially when they are in the majority. (Notice all the anti-christian sentiment now a days? Anti-jew or anti-buddhist sentiment is somehow racist, though, I'm sure.). So lets just chill the fuck out, and take a few minutes to relax, and say, You know, Linux and BSD are fighting for pretty much the same thing. Free Unix for all. Linux might be more popular.. but come on, elitists dont want popularity, they want exclusivity. So just be happy you're not as popular as linux. ok?
Yep, it's iptables instead of the typical ipchains method of firewalling.
Actually if you knew what the hell you were talking about, you'd realize that rh7.1 uses ipchains by default, not iptables. You may ask yourself, well it uses 2.4 kernel how could it use ipchains? Well if you had any clue and had built a kernel or two, you'd know you could use ipchains in compatability mode on top of the Netfilter subsystem. But then again, I wouldn't want to stop the flow of your vicious rant.
...any ideology that attempts to lock me into a single "Open" vendor, namely the FSF.
Uhm, Free Software is not a Brain Washing Cult. It's founded on carefully argued reasoning and first principles. You can agree or disagree, but nobody is locking you in. Unless of course you are so weak-minded that you can't think for yourself, and your only idea of freedom is having 70 channels on the tv to choose from instead of 5. Well my friend, you are either pitiful or a troll.
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Do you honestly think MS' product will even attempt to run if you haven't been prompt with your monthly payment? Shudder to think that MS would actually change their ways. Think again sucker. MS is more greedy and avaricious than TiVO ever could hope to be. The number one reason is that they can get away with it.
At least with tivo it *is* possible to hack around this stuff because it's linux and has been reverse engineered. I wonder what kind of bastardized OS MS puts on their money sinks? Surely nothing that can be reverse engineered. Why dont you MS shills crawl back under the rock you came out of.
Preach on, Bruthah!!
I wish these MS astroturfers would go back under the rock they crawled out from - or at least go back to starbucks and buy more $5 coffee - whatever. Just leave me, us, the fuck alone. All the pro ms posts have "deceit" "fallacy" and "Employee of MS" written all over them. You'd have to be a fool not to see it. Sigh...
Get it through your fucking head. Leave me the fuck alone MS. I'm not some company you can go around abusing. I'm an individual. Excercising my Constitutional rights to peacable assembly and free speach. Stop abusing me. You wont get any money from me. Ever. Stop trying.
Dinky web servers? I just read a story that IBM was contracted to make a 5-node linux cluster for the NHL.com website. And just in time for the finals, where they will be streaming audio and video to boot. On 5 nodes. Rinky dink... Heh Maybe to a paid microsoft employee or BSD zealot that considers 5-10% performance improvement vitally significant.. (hey bob, did you get that new Pentium6 5 Gigahurtz processor yet?)
Very well put. *applause*
btw, where do you think these pro-MS fellows are coming from? Redmond? PR-shills?
Hahaha, Linus Torvalds actually programs... I'm not sure what bill gates does besides maximising profit and satisfying his "windows everywhere" ego. The fucking cunt licker. I'm sure he's a real hoot at the parties. Hey Bill lets drink a 12 pack and kick it back for the weekend.. P'shaw. right. I'm sure Balmer is a barrell of fun too (no pun intended ehheheh).
True. (Although I think Richard Stallman venting his rage does compare.)
Richard stallman never vents rage.
He's a calm rational (though you may disagree vehemently) individual. When he gets on stage proclaiming the justness of free software and the lies and dishonesty of microsoft he's not trying eek out a few more dollars in profit from the masses. He's not trying to denounce a free-wheeling, fun-loving movement based on individual freedom and group cooperation.
Why do you want us to roll over and die while Microsoft tries its damndest to destroy our community? Do you not think they aren't trying to destroy our community? I think it's ok to be angry with Microsoft. I even think it's ok to let it out on slashdot if you so choose.
I'm having trouble identifying the motive behind your posts. Here's what I've come up with. Possibility one: You are a lonely man trying to make yourself look better in front of others. Two: you might actually consider microsoft to be the good guys and want to forcefully defend them, even through deceitful diatribes. Three: You think that people who advocate free software are deplorable and have bad manners, and so you are trying to correct it, for their sake of course.
I'm sure if you respond, you'll say you were just trying to help us from ourselves, honest!.. Dude, lets end this charade and speak frankly. (If you respond that it was altruism, or frustration I'll know you for the phony you are)
You are sadly mistaken
It doesn't attempt to infect code it touches. It's goal is to form a club of Free Software users and Developers. It's not a malicious goal, although it could be harmful to proprietary software developers.
Nobody is forcing you to join the club. If you find it repulsive, make sure you aren't developing software against GPL'd programs, or make sure they are Lgpl'd. It's very simple.
Of course, if you are just an GNU basher, that's not saying very much for you personally. I can udnerstand your sentiment, but I dont think you can extrapolate sentiment to a generalized condemnation of a software license. Think hard about other people's freedoms to do whatever they damn well want to, including join a software club that furthers their interests.
Companies that use GPL software know very well what they are getting into. IBM has a literal army of lawyers analyzing every legal move the company makes. They dont consider the GPL a threat to their "intellectual property" if IBM follows a few guidelines about its use. And if they do use GPL software wisely they stand to benefit greatly. They are already wagering 1 billion dollars on GNU/Linux, a GPL'd Operating system, with the calculation that it will pay off in large measure.
Maybe you should reconsider the fallacies you've just propounded. They are obviously wrong and misleading.
You can't blame Reed for this, even though he may have duped the BSD community into relying on his code. You have to blame the BSD community for not being rigorous in figuring out what IPF's license grants as rights and what it doesn't.
For the cynic, Reed might have played an exceelent game of spike the punch. The guy attatches a seemingly innocent, personalized quasi-license on his Ipf Code, never formally putting it under BSD license. Everyone assumes that because he offered the code it is under BSD license. Woops. Little do they know that they now have no rights to use this code in any way that Reed does not like. Reed can go to Sun and extract millions of dollars for compensatory damage, and future rights to proprietize his code. BSD just got screwed.
A proper analogy would be, RMS is the architect of the Free Software movement, not the marketing director. Details matter. Structural integrity matters. These things are annoyances to the marketeer trying to seel realestate.
Actually, if you read stallman's speaches, or listen to his .ogg's, you will notice that he makes significant mention of OpenSource and how it relates to Free Software. He is disturbed by the blurring of the lines between Free Software and Open source, and emphasizes they are not the same. Then he goes on to illuminate the differences between the camps, based on his philosophy, and why it matters more to preserve Freedom than Openness. (As a homework lesson, compare and contrast Parastroika(sp) and Representative Democracy).
- Rampability. The pentium 4 is expected to reach 4Ghz, possibly 5Ghz by the end of 2002.
- Volume. Currently, AMD only has 2 fabs. The one in Austin is currently only producing Durons, and AMD is planning to turn it into a flash memory only fab. (Of course with
.13 micron and below you get more volume for the same wafer capacity.).
My estimate for the future: AMD will be the performance chip of choice for gamers and low-end server manufacturers. AMD will increase rampability with the Hammer line, due to stretching out the pipeline and other tweaks. The X86-64 instruction set is a great strategic move. It will give 64bits addressable, and double the number of registers, not to mention getting rid of some nasty ia32 quirks when in x86-64 mode.WELP, It's hidden now! They took it off their webpage. No GPL for you!, microsoft says. Bahhahahaha *Watches as 10 weeks of carefully planned PR Streak across the sky like the comet the killed the dinosaurs* (link)
But only when they deny microsoft entry into the market.
Hey, I wonder if Microsoft thinks software patents are so great now? I bet Ultimate TV (their tivo rip-off - what great innovation) can do the same thing. It would be nice if Tivo sued microsoft or was otherwise able to extract billions for the right to use this patent in its rip-off products.
I want to see Ultimate TV fail. The damned thing obviously only exists because microsoft feels threatened that another "OS" could penetrate the home market. Bastards. I dont want all my devices to be MS controlled!! Lets kill the 7 headed serpent. I'll take TV, you take PC's, you over there, take Video games, and divide the rest evenly among you the rest of you.
This isn't a troll, but I thought BeOS went kaput recently.
If they dont release the sourcecode for BeOS under a liberal license, I dont see the point in tying up your coding effort into a proprietary platform that seems to have a pretty bleak future. Maybe you could correct any of my assumptions if they are wrong? I dont know..
He repeated it many times so the data would be in cache.
This wont affect write times because write-caching is not enabled in linux by default (it's VERY dangerous). So he was only limiting the effect of the harddrive/filesystem of the source disk in the performance measurement, and leaving the test partition (reiserfs, xfs, ext2) the only bottleneck in the benchmark.
Why do slashdot editors post stories without backup research or verification, that are trollish, and probably for the sole reason that hundreds of people submitted it.
In a perevious front-page post about some Mundie PR ass-talking, CmdrWeenie said the only reason he posted the damn thing was because he was inundated with requests. Goddamnit, that's just gonna make astroturfing easy and acceptable practice for MS and other lobbying groups.
When MS really turns up the heat on linux even more than they have recently, expect Slashdot editors to follow like sheep and serve the purposes of Microsoft in their massive pr campaign. The proper behavior is to ignore trolls like Mundie and continue along on your merry way.
A Linux hegemony is NO better than a MS one.
You know, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. A "Linux" "Hegemony" is open to competition inherently. It doesn't lock people in. FreeBSD has linux emulation. AIX has linux emulation. SCO has linux emulation. I dont see linux developers trying to stifle this competition, do you? A linux hegemony is not a corperate monopoly. It's a commoditized marketplace where all entrants are on equal footing.
A linux hegemony doesnt try to extract monopoly profits. It doesn't maliciously put companies out of business. Every can play in the linux space, if they want to. You could take FreeBSD and market it as a linux box if you wanted to.
I think the better way to phrase it is, a Hegemony of Freedom is a million times better than an Hegemony of Vendor lock-in and monopoly profits.
No. I wont "battle" it out with you.
I would like to wrap this up though with some concluding remarks, and the leave this thread.
GTK is a great toolkit. Thousands of developers use it every day and it leaves them so happy that they can go home to their girlfriends and have sex. (I'm not sure qt developers have girlfriends). When GNOME2.0 takes over the linux desktop and KDE is left in the waste bucket, I will feel sorry, and pour malt liquer on the grave of my fallen homies. Alas, we're not all meant for this world....
How can you disprove (or prove) a subjective opinion?
I can't say whether you've proven it or not, but I can sure say you haven't given very many supporting reasons. Silly MsBob. Heh.
You were the one who initially brought up GTK and said it was sorely lacking compared to qt. Sorry bob, you invited this digression. Anyway, sure, gtk's c++ bindings aren't as consistent and thorough as qt's, but they are very usable, as can be seen by the various projects that use it. Check out "gabber" a gtk-- jabber program. Seems to work fine and actually seem pretty usable. As for the troll that gtk makes "horrendous sacrifices" to be cross-language, well that's a bit over the top. Gtk is a very versatile language, and no, it wont take advantage of every nook and cranny of every language it supports, but that's hardly a big deal. gtk just works. For the well supported languages it has bindings in, it works very well. I know your mission is to promote qt and denigrate gtk, but please get your facts straight.
Hey bob, chill out.
Did you hear what Xiphoid said? All those features are in gtk1.3 (development series) Check it out, and stop trolling. Lets try to be friendly and not call people morons that are trying to help you out with your facts.
My opinion: How can a toolkit call itself advanced when it doesn't even support C? At least GTK can claim that it supports over 30 language bindings (some not so well, granted). I beleive qt supports only 2. Last I checked, the only supported version of qt under the GPL was for X11/*nix.
The parent is a very insightful comment on copyrights that often get overlooked when thinking of pedagogical terms like "Freedom" and "Business". It's really important to ground yourself in the core substance of the medium. Copyright. GPL gives you freedom to use copyrighted material if you agree to free your derivative copyrighted material. What results is a virtuous circle of contribution, innovation, and community.
Microsoft can't compete with this. Their community in the early nineties was an open Dos and windows platform that businesses could profit from. They soon realized that Microsoft is hostile towards "middleware" businesses and many went out of business. In the Free Software community there is no monopolizing impulse, and businesses can happily coexist, peddling their proprietary middleware. Microsoft shut out IBM, and now IBM finds extraordinary value in linux. Other once profitable software companies that were shut out from windows by microsoft are also finding value in linux. Software companies dont want to compete with MS on their own monopoly platform. Internet companies dont want to pay licensing fees to microsoft to run their busines, avoiding draconian EULA's.
Expect more of the exodus from windows to free software. A small taste of freedom is addictive. An intravenous injection of freedom is downright intoxicating.
Now the BSDL ALLOWS this, but there is a BIG different between the Linux crowd and proprietary vendors. The idea of the BSDL is to improve aoftware by releasing. It is understood that other groups will use it. ... The hypocracy in the Linux camp is astounding.
Frankly my dear, your hypocracy astounds me. You release code under the BSD (Or support the release) And yet you are enraged when people follow the terms of that license agreement. If you dont want GPL programs to use BSDl code their programs, dont release it under the BSDL. I mean, duh! You also say you prefer BSD because it is "purer". That may be well and good, but I think you should purge your logical cortex of impure fallacies. Like the fallacy that GPL users should somehow not use BSDL code - but hey, it's ok for microsoft to.
Why not just come out and say it. It's so obvious. You are jealous and elitist. You want BSD to be as successful as Linux because you beleive in the virtues of BSD. Well let me tell you something kiddo. It doesn't work that way. It's a religion. Everyone thinks their religion is best, and turns violent against disbeleivers, especially when they are in the majority. (Notice all the anti-christian sentiment now a days? Anti-jew or anti-buddhist sentiment is somehow racist, though, I'm sure.). So lets just chill the fuck out, and take a few minutes to relax, and say, You know, Linux and BSD are fighting for pretty much the same thing. Free Unix for all. Linux might be more popular.. but come on, elitists dont want popularity, they want exclusivity. So just be happy you're not as popular as linux. ok?
Yep, it's iptables instead of the typical ipchains method of firewalling.
Actually if you knew what the hell you were talking about, you'd realize that rh7.1 uses ipchains by default, not iptables. You may ask yourself, well it uses 2.4 kernel how could it use ipchains? Well if you had any clue and had built a kernel or two, you'd know you could use ipchains in compatability mode on top of the Netfilter subsystem. But then again, I wouldn't want to stop the flow of your vicious rant.
...any ideology that attempts to lock me into a single "Open" vendor, namely the FSF.
Uhm, Free Software is not a Brain Washing Cult. It's founded on carefully argued reasoning and first principles. You can agree or disagree, but nobody is locking you in. Unless of course you are so weak-minded that you can't think for yourself, and your only idea of freedom is having 70 channels on the tv to choose from instead of 5. Well my friend, you are either pitiful or a troll.