I bet most bridge building engineers aren't told my their managers that it's not important whether the bridge will fall down and kill people, if it's just done by next Friday!
True, most software sucks, but it's usually not the fault of the coders...
We're talking about a man who has second thoughts about donating $60 million because he doesn't think they will come to use in the way he wants it to.
And you're critisizing him?
Heck, I'm having second thoughts about donating $5 without being pretty damn sure that they will come to good use. Dunno about you, but I can't really be upset with anyone who doesn't want to part with $60 million without being pretty damn sure they will be used in a way s/he finds acceptable.
Very unlikely. One of the letters is sent and signed by a certain Jason Cooper - jason@battlebots.com, claiming to be Creative Director at BattleBots Inc.
Unless this lawfirm has actually counterfeited a letter from this person, or made up his existance (which I definately do not believe) they do know about their lawyers' actions.
I applaud your initiative! I am somewhat sceptic to the efficiency and validity of your added (besides the GPL2) license restriction though. Would you care to explain whether you have any hope of it actually having any effect? (I'm asking this out of pure ignorance, having little knowledge of the validity of various licenses, but would this, say, hold in court?)
For those of you who haven't downloaded the file, and sees no reason to crash bero-rh's poor ftp server, the addition reads:
IT IS ILLEGAL TO LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINDING OUT HOW
TO BYPASS THE FILTERS OR HOW TO HELP OTHERS TO BYPASS THE FILTERS.
BY ABUSING THIS PROGRAM OR PARTS THEREOF TO CREATE OR SEND SPAM (HEREBY
DEFINED AS ANY SORT OF UNSOLICITED BULK MAIL) OR TO AID WITH OR SUPPORT THE
CREATION OR SENDING OF SPAM, YOU AGREE TO PAY A FEE OF $100,000 TO THE
DEVELOPERS AND FACE ANY OTHER CONSEQUENCES YOUR ACTION MAY HAVE HAD (SUCH
AS LAWSUITS FROM PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED THE SPAM). THE DEVELOPERS OF NoSpam CAN
IN NO WAY BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ABUSE.
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You get a gun (legal where most hotmail servers are located, I believe). You load it with ammo. You point it at somebody's head, and you pull the trigger!
really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
Having spent some depressing three years in the web production business, I must say that text only browsers are pretty much ignored by the main stream web designers. A lot of juicy info is put in pictures, and if not information, then navigation. Although I'm a great fan of lynx myself, I find that I can seldom use it due to the incompetence of web designers.
Yes, as with CGI applications they "just" take an arbitrary HTTP request, do pretty much anything, and send back a response. The difference between this and any other type of application is that most applications don't get their input in the form of an HTTP request:)
The problem with this stems from the fact that not everyone assigns the same value to content. Let's say Joe finds a piece of info on the Internet and he's willing to pay $10 for it, Jack finds that same piece of info but only thinks it is worth $2, and Jill finds the information not useful at all.
My father happily pays $50,000 for a new car of a specific model. My sister would actually only be willing to pay $10,000 for that car, given her situation with the kids and stuff. Personally, having no driver's license, I'd probably take it if someone gave it to me, but I wouldn't pay for it. I'd buy a can of coke instead.
Strange that car manufacturers survive, don't you think?
The same thing exists everywhere. To take an example even closer to the web - magazines, books, comic books, movies, music etc. All those things are nothing but "content" or information if you wish. And (if we disregard the existance of piracy for argument's sake) have a basic set cost that everyone will have to pay - and trust me, I sure didn't like Titanic as well as your average 14-year-old girl. But somehow they still seem to make money out of it. Strange, strange....
Because, and no I'm not kidding, apt-get was easy to understand. Took under a minute to read most of the documentation I needed, and then it worked like a charm.
dselect however, gave me confusing menues, arcane commands that I'd have to jump back and forth between various menues to figure out and illogical dependancy handling. Let's just say that I saw no reason to switch...
Granted, it's been a while since I tried dselect. I suppose it has changed.
A common misconception is that SETI@Home and other distributed clients for data processing are "free". It's quite simple really, a computer that does nothing consumes less power than one that's working att 100%. Plain and simple.
Everytime slashdot has an Amiga article some people feel an urgent need to post a couple of Amiga's dead posts. They always point out that the Amiga of 1992 can't really compete with modern machines.
Well surprise, surprise! The various plans and products under the Amiga logo (HW and OS) are not the same thing as a 1200 from 92. They have changed and evolved too! You're correct, the Amiga of 92 is dead, just as well as the Mac or PC of 92 is (even more so in the latter case, I'd argue). But this is, if you look close, not that thing.
Port scanning is the real-world equivalent of going up, testing the door knob, and walking in if it's unlocked.
I'd say that when it comes to real world mataphores, this is probably the most used, abused and stupid one.
Port scanning has nothing to do with breaking in. It's looking. How am I supposed to know that you've got a public FTP server running? Or a website? Or a mail address? By checking of course.
I refuse to make a real world analogy for port scanning, because all I've seen so far has been quite stupid (although not at the very same level as this one).
Heh, besides... define "port scanning" please;)
I have yet to see a java, C, c++, etc project that delivered in time, on budget, and was very useful.
And... your average VB projects meet these criteria?
The fact that projects aren't delivered on time or on budget has to do with bad project management and poor time guesstimating and not the language you've been coding in. However, coding in a decent language helps you adjust for changed projects plans, modify your code for later releases (you know, there are projects out there that goes beyong the first.0 release).
Not trying to justify the post you were replying to really, I too consider it a rather pathetic attempt to look cool. However, you generalize a bit too much for my taste...
Being a Java programmer I must say that I agree to this post 100%. Sure, this is a religious topic, but Java IS about as cross platform as it gets, you have quite a bunch of choices for development environments on at least both Linux and Windows (only two platforms I've really coded on).
Forte is free for non commersial use, and rather good.
Maybe we'd even see some laws passed mandating secure systems for companies that should require security, such as banks and power companies.
I doubt it. More likely, we'd see a more paranoid law enforcement, and even harsher penalties to those kids who get cought while playing around. I'd certainly doubt it would have the effect you want it to have.
Just for the record btw: I do not want to defend the attackers. I do think, however, that the penalties often applied to "hackers" are insane, to say the least.
Did you read the first half of the fellowship? Do that and tell me Gandalf is not acting like a wild-eyed crazy man!
He changes quite a bit (in the mind of Frodo and the reader) during the books. Remember... he's quite stressed up during the episode in the Shire;)
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I bet most bridge building engineers aren't told my their managers that it's not important whether the bridge will fall down and kill people, if it's just done by next Friday!
True, most software sucks, but it's usually not the fault of the coders...
We're talking about a man who has second thoughts about donating $60 million because he doesn't think they will come to use in the way he wants it to.
And you're critisizing him?
Heck, I'm having second thoughts about donating $5 without being pretty damn sure that they will come to good use. Dunno about you, but I can't really be upset with anyone who doesn't want to part with $60 million without being pretty damn sure they will be used in a way s/he finds acceptable.
Very unlikely. One of the letters is sent and signed by a certain Jason Cooper - jason@battlebots.com, claiming to be Creative Director at BattleBots Inc.
Unless this lawfirm has actually counterfeited a letter from this person, or made up his existance (which I definately do not believe) they do know about their lawyers' actions.
I'm sorry, it wasn't intended as bitching, rather a sincere question. Bero seemed to understand that, at least, which is sufficient for me :)
I applaud your initiative! I am somewhat sceptic to the efficiency and validity of your added (besides the GPL2) license restriction though. Would you care to explain whether you have any hope of it actually having any effect? (I'm asking this out of pure ignorance, having little knowledge of the validity of various licenses, but would this, say, hold in court?)
For those of you who haven't downloaded the file, and sees no reason to crash bero-rh's poor ftp server, the addition reads:IT IS ILLEGAL TO LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINDING OUT HOW TO BYPASS THE FILTERS OR HOW TO HELP OTHERS TO BYPASS THE FILTERS. BY ABUSING THIS PROGRAM OR PARTS THEREOF TO CREATE OR SEND SPAM (HEREBY DEFINED AS ANY SORT OF UNSOLICITED BULK MAIL) OR TO AID WITH OR SUPPORT THE CREATION OR SENDING OF SPAM, YOU AGREE TO PAY A FEE OF $100,000 TO THE DEVELOPERS AND FACE ANY OTHER CONSEQUENCES YOUR ACTION MAY HAVE HAD (SUCH AS LAWSUITS FROM PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED THE SPAM). THE DEVELOPERS OF NoSpam CAN IN NO WAY BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ABUSE.
You get a gun (legal where most hotmail servers are located, I believe). You load it with ammo. You point it at somebody's head, and you pull the trigger!
Sue me!
I hope the similarity is obvious...
really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
Having spent some depressing three years in the web production business, I must say that text only browsers are pretty much ignored by the main stream web designers. A lot of juicy info is put in pictures, and if not information, then navigation. Although I'm a great fan of lynx myself, I find that I can seldom use it due to the incompetence of web designers.
Really these are just overblown CGI applications
Yes, as with CGI applications they "just" take an arbitrary HTTP request, do pretty much anything, and send back a response. The difference between this and any other type of application is that most applications don't get their input in the form of an HTTP requestI disagree. Sandman, Bone and The Invisibles could be mentioned as examples...
Alright, those comics that have been running since the sixties aren't all that great, but I assume we're not talking about them...
And to make it work, you even have to spell it right :)
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The problem with this stems from the fact that not everyone assigns the same value to content. Let's say Joe finds a piece of info on the Internet and he's willing to pay $10 for it, Jack finds that same piece of info but only thinks it is worth $2, and Jill finds the information not useful at all.
My father happily pays $50,000 for a new car of a specific model. My sister would actually only be willing to pay $10,000 for that car, given her situation with the kids and stuff. Personally, having no driver's license, I'd probably take it if someone gave it to me, but I wouldn't pay for it. I'd buy a can of coke instead.
The same thing exists everywhere. To take an example even closer to the web - magazines, books, comic books, movies, music etc. All those things are nothing but "content" or information if you wish. And (if we disregard the existance of piracy for argument's sake) have a basic set cost that everyone will have to pay - and trust me, I sure didn't like Titanic as well as your average 14-year-old girl. But somehow they still seem to make money out of it. Strange, strange....Strange that car manufacturers survive, don't you think?
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Not to mention that it runs perfectly well on a Linux Mandrake machine!
;-)
Duh!
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Because, and no I'm not kidding, apt-get was easy to understand. Took under a minute to read most of the documentation I needed, and then it worked like a charm.
dselect however, gave me confusing menues, arcane commands that I'd have to jump back and forth between various menues to figure out and illogical dependancy handling. Let's just say that I saw no reason to switch...
Granted, it's been a while since I tried dselect. I suppose it has changed.
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A common misconception is that SETI@Home and other distributed clients for data processing are "free". It's quite simple really, a computer that does nothing consumes less power than one that's working att 100%. Plain and simple.
--
Everytime slashdot has an Amiga article some people feel an urgent need to post a couple of Amiga's dead posts. They always point out that the Amiga of 1992 can't really compete with modern machines.
Well surprise, surprise! The various plans and products under the Amiga logo (HW and OS) are not the same thing as a 1200 from 92. They have changed and evolved too! You're correct, the Amiga of 92 is dead, just as well as the Mac or PC of 92 is (even more so in the latter case, I'd argue). But this is, if you look close, not that thing.
Duh!--
...on the subject can be found here.
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Gartner Claims Less Linux Than IDG.
Please....
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Aren't some Java JIT compilers doing something like this already?
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Port scanning is the real-world equivalent of going up, testing the door knob, and walking in if it's unlocked.
I'd say that when it comes to real world mataphores, this is probably the most used, abused and stupid one.Port scanning has nothing to do with breaking in. It's looking. How am I supposed to know that you've got a public FTP server running? Or a website? Or a mail address? By checking of course.
I refuse to make a real world analogy for port scanning, because all I've seen so far has been quite stupid (although not at the very same level as this one).
Heh, besides... define "port scanning" please
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I have yet to see a java, C, c++, etc project that delivered in time, on budget, and was very useful.
And... your average VB projects meet these criteria?
The fact that projects aren't delivered on time or on budget has to do with bad project management and poor time guesstimating and not the language you've been coding in. However, coding in a decent language helps you adjust for changed projects plans, modify your code for later releases (you know, there are projects out there that goes beyong the first .0 release).
Not trying to justify the post you were replying to really, I too consider it a rather pathetic attempt to look cool. However, you generalize a bit too much for my taste...
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Being a Java programmer I must say that I agree to this post 100%. Sure, this is a religious topic, but Java IS about as cross platform as it gets, you have quite a bunch of choices for development environments on at least both Linux and Windows (only two platforms I've really coded on).
Forte is free for non commersial use, and rather good.
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Maybe we'd even see some laws passed mandating secure systems for companies that should require security, such as banks and power companies.
I doubt it. More likely, we'd see a more paranoid law enforcement, and even harsher penalties to those kids who get cought while playing around. I'd certainly doubt it would have the effect you want it to have.
Just for the record btw: I do not want to defend the attackers. I do think, however, that the penalties often applied to "hackers" are insane, to say the least.--
To quote Neil Gaiman from an earlier slashdot story:
I hope that his death isn't followed by the publishing of all the stuff he hadn't wanted to see print.
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Control, Meta, Backslash anyone?
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Did you read the first half of the fellowship? Do that and tell me Gandalf is not acting like a wild-eyed crazy man! ;)
He changes quite a bit (in the mind of Frodo and the reader) during the books. Remember... he's quite stressed up during the episode in the Shire
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