Lord of the Trailers
Kurobara writes: "just thought everyone would like to know that the NEW LOTR trailer is avabile online (stream only for now). I'd give a description but I'll let the trailer speek for itself, suffice to say it rocks ^_^ (spotted on theonering.net)" It's not at all easy to find the new trailer - if you see the flame and ring, you're looking at the old one. First words of the new one are "Legend tells of a ring...". Ah, here we go: Old Wolf writes: "The latest trailer for Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring can be streamed here, or downloaded in full. Only Real format at this stage unfortunately. A collection of .jpg stills and commentary can be found here at TORN."
The sad thing is, you are 34 years old, aren't you?
Geesh, I could have lived without knowing that Paul Rubens was playing gollum. That's gonna ruin it for me.
Get your good good LOTR-lovin' at http://ufies.org/files/lotr_trailer3.rm
HTH, HAND
When JRRT wrote The Hobbit (published in 1937) he initially did not place it in Middle Earth. Actually the original story was quite different in one crucial respect - Gollum shows Bilbo out after he lost the Riddles game and they part on friendly terms. If you ever find a first edition of The Hobbit you can read the original version of the story - (good luck! B&N had a copy for sale for $12,500!). The Hobbit was so successful that the publishers immediately demanded a sequel. It was at this point that he rewrote chapter 5 (Riddles in the Dark) to set up the story that became The Lord of the Rings.
The LOTR started in much the same style as The Hobbit, and he struggled for many years with it. He really wanted to publish his epic mythologies, and not to work on a sequel. Towards the later part of the 1940's he got into the swing of it and cranked out LOTR, published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955 (it is NOT a trilogy - it's three volumes of the same tale). It was during the composition of the LOTR that he tied The Hobbit to the mythologies. It also provided a framework for the eventuality of his epic works, later laid down in The Silmarillion. The Silmarillion is actually several books in one:
Tolkien died before he felt thatThe Silmarillion was completed. His son, Christopher, took it upon himself to select from his father's writings all of the material that would constitute a complete story and published it posthumously to his father.
Reading The Silmarillion for the first time is a fairly brutal endeavor. It's so packed full of information that it took me several readings to really start to grok it. Karen Wynn Fonstat's Atlas of Middle Earth is essential, as is J.E.A. Tyler's reference (the name escapes me, but the second editions includes The Silmarillion content).
Unfinished Tales contains more detailed information from the stories in The Silmarillion, but they were never deemed to be complete enough to be included in The Silmarillion. Christopher Tolkien's 12 volume series The History of Middle Earth breaks down all of JRRT's writings into chronological order and discusses in great detail the evolution of the stories (well worth the read if you like scholarly studies of fascinating characters).
Also read The Letters of JRR Tolkien and his biography, both by Humphrey Carpenter, if you want real insight into Tolkien's life and beliefs. He was a truly remarkable man.
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I'd have gone with the Rankor for this analogy. I've always pictured the Balrog as something similar.
Hey, don't knock Brain Dead (or Bad Taste - I haven't seen Meet the Feebles). Those were absolutely excellent. Even more so considering that they were done in spare time (four years for Bad Taste???) with a small group of friends and home-made props.
Personally, I'm glad that REAL is in existence. Without them, there surely would be even more Windows Media Player only downloads, and perhaps more of that annoying QuickTime bollocks. At least Real has ports of their player to platforms like Linux.
I'm guessing that they only consider it a spoiler for those who haven't read the trilogy.
Sorenson codec encoded .mov's are worthless to me. Although it is a really nice high quality codec with great compression, it's just not available for linux. Well I can listen to the audio on Sorenson codec mov's I spose. :)
Why don't these companies use DiVX ;-)? There's at least nice divx players for linux. The one I use is available here: http://divx.euro.ru/ just fyi. What's the deal with divx anyway? Was it stolen from microsoft like people claim or what? And if not, then why aren't big companies supporting it? Because apple and real pays them too much to use their format? :)
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..All the while, Tolkien heatedly denied any allegory in LOTR. In fact, he claimed that he thought allegory in storytelling was perfectly awful.
The king of allegory, C.S. Lewis, was a friend of Tolkien. Lewis has said that while at Cambrige he was told to "beware of Papists [Lewis was a Protestant] and philologists. Tolkien was both."
The stories were born out of bedtime tales he told his children and his philological interest in inventing a language (Elvish). Pretty cool.
"Beware by whom you are called sane."
Potato chips are a by-yourself food.
A little odd that you should say this, since the actor doing the voice over in this new trailer is Sir Ian McKellan, who is most definitely English. Funny, that.
Wombat.
I hear you :) If it sucks we can meet up and go on a rampage....I refuse to D/L REAL crap to my machine so I will just wait for the MOVIE.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
And Braindead. Don't forget Braindead :)
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
It's called Heavenly Creatures were I live
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
Agreed, too. Jackson's perfect. The main reason I think so is Heavenly Creatures: He hs used a lot of special effect in it, but never in a way that makes them stand out in the "look what we can do" hollywood way. Instead, they were perfectly blended into the "real" scenes, giving them a special kind of magic. Also, on the LotR official movie page they have Jackson answering a lot of fan's questions which seem to have come from various Tolkien fan sites. The answers are in Real video format. He obviously has put a lot of thinking into the translation of the book to movie format, and not only that, he has come to goog conclusions, too.
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
I think the key differences between LOTR and Star Wars is that LOTR has a third "chapter" that's quite good - whereas Star Wars' third film mostly sucks. That, and the "prequel" to LOTR is marvelous literature in its own right - whereas the Star Wars prequel is pretty crappy so far.
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
The discrepency is probably best explained that Sauron as a sentient entity became no more after the destruction of the One Ring, but the evil "leftovers" of him still haunted some desolate areas of the world after his passing.
At least, that's how I see it.
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Even now, "^_^" is being documented as a new Perl operator...
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Heh, well boss, one out of three isn't too bad...
Hell is being intelligent in a world full of idiots.
I've been doing an experiment with myself: don't watch any trailers and see if makes the movie better.
So far, I've seen about 5 movies without seeing any trailers, and the movies are much better! The damn trailers give away too much and by the time I get to the theater, I already know how the movie progresses and ends!
So anyway, I hope some of you will try this. The movies tend to be much better when you don't see any trailers ahead of time. Cheers!
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I liked the prequel operas by Wagner, ...
especially the third when the nine fat
ladies (Valkeries) come out and sing,
think stick it to all those nasty Germans
showing off their shiny swords
LOTR plans to use several- Gollum, various monsters, and others.
I am encouraged by the quality of virtual actors
in Shrek. JarJar in Phantom and the humans in
Toy Story were disappointing, but my hopes are
high for LOTR.
Is this the same Peter Jackson who brought us Meet the Feebles and Brain Dead? Good God. We're doomed.
Thank you for not thinking.
Don't see the trailer. Continue to expect LOTR to be roughly on a par with Phantom Menace. Get blown out of your chair in December.
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DivX ;-) is an illegal hack of one of Microsoft's codecs. I believe that all it does is remove the restrictions on dimention limits and introduces the ability to use MP3 as the audio codec.
;-)
You should be asking: why aren't they using Project Mayo (a/k/a/ DivX part Deux)?
I dunno.
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>> Why do they not use project Mayo?
;-)
>Are you kidding?
> Maybe cause, um, they don't give a flying crap
> about the geek/linux community and want to use
> a commercially acceptable format that people
> usually have?
Arugh. Please quote people entirely when you respond...
I _actually_ said:
>> You should be asking: why aren't they using
>> Project Mayo (a/k/a/ DivX part Deux)?
>>
>> I dunno.
(trying, of course, to keep my tounge firmly in cheek).
Now.. what were we talking about?
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> Is anyone else annoyed by the "^_^" emoticon? I mean, it's not even a smiley face
(!)
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Not only do I think that the USA should adopt English as it's national language and force its use in all affairs, foreign and domestic, but I think that the rest of the world should give up the silly notion that they're equal to or more powerful than us and just start speaking English as well. Conformity is the secret to world peace. Conformity under American morals and laws, that is.
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...More Powerful than Otto Preminger...
Nothing personal, dude, it's part of a massive research project I'm working on involving the Slashdot community. It's amazing the trends you can discover just by posting various things around here.
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...More Powerful than Otto Preminger...
> suffice to say it rocks ^_^
Is anyone else annoyed by the "^_^" emoticon? I mean, it's not even a smiley face: it looks like someone who's died. The mouth is taut and the eyes are looking upward.
No one actually turns their head to look at the "classic" smileys, we all recognize them as they are printed. Orienting an emoticon so that it is readable along with the text is unnecessary, especially if it doesn't show the range of emotions previously available.
For some reason, I find that the people who do the ^_^ face tend to be anime zealots. Is there a story behind this that I missed while watching live action movies?
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...More Powerful than Otto Preminger...
That's the old one
I wish I were so lucky as to have already seen the movie like you obviously have... how else would you know that he's "wide-eyed" in "every single scene".
You are going to hate this movie, b/c you've already decided that you do.
] D
Where did you get the information that The Valar banished Sauron to oblivion? All I've ever read points at him being reduced to a malevolent shadow unable to assume form again... a seemingly unfounded feeling of fear and foreboding for those that encounter him, but nothing more.
] D
Comic movies aren't all bad.
Superman was good.
Batman was decent.
The Crow stands alone atop the heap, however.
I can't believe you liked X-Men but not Superman and Batman.
Kneel before Zod.
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Yeah, and in 2003, we can watch him fall into the fires of Mount Doom with the Ring and Frodo's finger screaming "I meant to do that!"
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
There is a good frame-by-frame-analysis of the new trailer at TheOneRing.net.
Does anyone else keep reading it as "theonionring.net"?
Mmmm. Onion rings...
The domain is free, btw, if anyone wants to snap it up and see what WIPO has to say about it.
Congratulations. Nice troll.
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Seriously, why? It's not like I need convincing to go see the movie. I want to be surpised as much as possible when Xmas 2k1 rolls around and this baby hits the theater. Eru knows I've read The Silmarillion 8 dozen times by now. Commercials & trailers will only spoil the fun for me. My two bits. And this fucking thing better be of higher quality than TPM. Otherwise I'm taking hostages. Grr. - Rev.
But did any one else feel that the voice overs for this trailer (and even more so the previous one) simply cry out to be spoken with an English accent?
The current accent is simply too... flat.
It needs that feel of a sage found in an ancient library.
LOTR Trailer
Ender
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...is here for all to enjoy. Enjoy!
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein
Where'd you get that info - the cast page :
http://www.theonering.net/movie/cast.html
has "Andy Serkis" listed as Gollum....
OMG, this was moderated down? This needs +5 Funny! Ha ha ha!
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
Amen. Paul got screwed, and I think it's actually pretty brave of him to come back to the screen after this long. He was recently on Conan O'Brian's show, and he was really a riot. To bad his career was ruined for so long.
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
How many downloads of the original LotR trailer from their crappy website were there in the first 24 hours? One point someodd million? I distinctly recall it was well over the number of TPM downloads.
Yeah, all your fanbase belongs to us. :-)
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
My fav is the coolest-ever (as in calm) raidar operator's even voiced statement: "A fleet of Satr Destroyers is coming out of hyper-space in sector 12." (Or something to that effect.)
--Flam
-Yeah, I agree: SW==camp
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I agree, we have a fight in our hands. Let's do some scientific analysis and try to figure which one will win.
... sorry, about that, I just had to do it.) but she may
> The Jedi are rallying behind the Force, while the Rangers summon the courage of the Numenor.
Edge: SW.
Force and Jedi took a blow in the Phantom Menace (Mitocondrias or what?) but at least they didn't get sunk and beaten at every turn.
> The Skywalker family against the Isildur lineage.
Edge: even.
Both families have a lot going for them and we simply do not know enough about them to judge. Curently Skywalker's great strenght is of course Natalie Portman (NAKED AND PETRIFIED!
face stiff (or should that be "stiffing") competition from Liv Tyler.
> Darth Vader vs. the Nine.
Edge: LotR
Vader is cool, and so was Maul and emperor too has things going for him, but the Nazgul are the real thing. They are scary, really scary. They are probably the one really-scary-evil-guys-in-black in popular fantasy that don't suffer inflation during the story. Wizard-king is just as scary bashing down the gates of Minas Tirith as he was chasing hobbits in Shire and Bree.
> Obewan up against Gandalf the Gray. Dead/Ghost Obewan up against Gandalf the White.
Edge: even
Sir Alec should have played Galdalf who is much more complicated character then Obi-Wan. I don't think Ian McKellen can match Sir Alec so Obi-Wan has room for a come-back. This is your chance Evan, use it, um, wisely.
> Bobafet vs. the Balrog.
Edge: LotR
The Balrog kicks Boba's butt even with one hand tied behind his back and blindfolded. You could throw in Rankor too and it wouldn't make a difference.
> Storm Troopers vs. Orcs.
Edge: LotR
The Imperial Elite, gimme a break. Orcs suck as bad but at least they know they do. And there's Uruk-hai to consider.
Conclusion: it's 3 to 1 for Lord of the Rings with 2 even.
It looks bad for Star Wars but it's not hopeless. It would be really easy to fumble the Aragon and Arwen romance and even more so with understandable but dangerous story changes. That would make the Skywalker-Isildur match-up a clear victory for SW. That would pretty much leave to whole battle in to the able hands of Evan McGregor as he can be the tie-breaker in the Obi-Wan-Galdalf deadlock.
So it looks like a close thing with LotR leading at the moment but Star Wars definately able to catch up.
--Flam, who won't watch the trailers as he is going anyways.
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You always put words in other people's mouths? Where did I say we should ban it?
It's like creating a world with gravity... If it's at the core of your vision of reality, better make it consistent.
Actually, there are plenty of very Christian references in LotR. JRRT himself was very Christian. One example that comes to mind is the use of language for magic: every act of magic, whether from Gandalf or the Balrog, comes from the voice, since it was the belief of Tolkien that the Word was the founding principle of Creation. Additionally, Gandalf and the other wizards were more or less gardian angels. All this is detailed in the Silmarillion.
Goddamn, the film looks sweet.
Ick. AOL is helping to perpetuate MS's monopoly. Want to boycot.
Don't know if I can, the film is too smooth.
In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
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It was just a dirty joke, in the same way I joke about my old housemates masturbating habits, with with my Karma Whoring tendancies added.
I really like Paul Reubens, Pee Wee Herman is one of the most creative Movie/TV characters of all time. The fact that Paul Reubens got caught masturbating in an adult theater makes him more human and approachable. I liked him in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I'm sure he'll make a great Smegal.
Paul Reubens' is not different then your average pr0n surfing Slashdot reader, nor is he very different from your average pr0n sneaking "Oh, I don't do _that_" man or woman.
The only think shocking about the Paul Ruebens story is that several policemen wasted their time in tailing and then busting Ruebens when they could be fighting an actual crime, and that Disney canned his ass because the story stained the Disney Corp's imaginary, puritan and regressive view on Sexuality.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
The trailers of the enemy are gifts! Why don't we use them against him! ...precious... yes.. precious.... they are my birthday presents afterall, precious... aren't they? Thief Baggins! Wants me not to watch the trailers.... thinks it will ruin the surprise precious.... Even though precious has read the books a million times... perhaps precious needs peace of mind... perhaps the danger of blasphemy from these movies is greater than the hope of success, precious...
Not only does God definitely play dice, but He sometimes confuses us by throwing them where they can't be seen. -Hawking
Nope. I was simply comment on the comment I repling to. I have read the LOTR triology and the Hobit and I enjoyed both. I think it is funny that someong moderated my comment as flaimbait, but others gave moderated up one of the replies to my comment that pretty much the same thing.
At the next eco-hypocrisy-meeting, count the private jets used to get to the meeting. Should be interesting to see that
gandalf in describing his battle with the Balrog, "Deep beneath the surface the earth is gnawed by nameless things."
Someone you trust is one of us.
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them" was in the old trailers.
Someone you trust is one of us.
Yeah, I don't think its a close call even. LOTR will demolish Star Wars. The only thing Star Wars has in its favor are sweet campy lines. We'll have to wait and see with LOTR in this respect. But it will be tough to outdo, "I find your lack of faith disturbing," "Luke! Luuuke!" and "Jumping into hyperspace aint like dusting crops kid" LOTR is so serious and grim, I doubt it will have anything like this. The camp factor in StarWars is what makes it appealing.
Someone you trust is one of us.
The Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars.
The battle lines are being drawn, and the forces are mustering. The Jedi are rallying behind the Force, while the Rangers summon the courage of the Numenor. The Skywalker family against the Isildur lineage. Darth Vader vs. the Nine. Obewan up against Gandalf the Gray. Dead/Ghost Obewan up against Gandalf the White. Bobafet vs. the Balrog. Storm Troopers vs. Orcs. I can feel the calm before the storm.
Someone you trust is one of us.
I know a lot of you love the books, but put that aside and look at the movie. It looks hokey. Elijah Wood? Come on. I really cannot understand why the "geek/nerd" community is jonesing for this movie so hard? Matrix 2, Spider-Man I can understand. But why this?
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http://ex1.callihq.net/fellowship2.mpeg
If you have a higher/better resolution version let me know...
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That's not what a more experienced actor would do. Are you saying that's how Ian McKellan is playing Gandalf? Doesn't look like it to me -- the man has incredible range. He's not even recognizable as the same actor from his Richard III a few years ago. Of course, you wouldn't want someone quite that old to play Frodo, just someone experienced enough to be able to play him believably.
What I want is an actor who understands the part. It's plain that Wood doesn't. Wide-eyed? Sometimes, sure, especially at first. But in every single scene? As is is, "overacting" is just how I'd describe what Wood has done with this part. He looks as if he's done a miserable job. I hope it's just an artifact of how they selected scenes for the trailer.
And the brethren went away edified.
I said, "I hope it's just an artifact of how they selected scenes for the trailer." And in my earlier post, I said, "Fortunately, he's surrounded by enough truly great talent that he doesn't have to carry the movie." If I don't like the movie -- which is going to be a clear and present danger with any attempt to put Lord of the Rings on film, especially for those of us old enough to remember the acute disappointment of the Bakshi movie -- it will be most likely because of the script or something Peter Jackson has done, not the acting.
I'll admit I was predisposed to find Wood inadequate to the task, mostly based on an interview with him I read online last year and cannot now locate. In it he described his view of the Frodo. It was an almost complete misreading. Not only was it very superficial, but those traits he did observe he misunderstood. My hope is that by working with the brilliant actors who were cast alongside him, he'd pick up a bit more depth. Not a hint of that shows in the trailer, but then, as I said (three times now) they trailer may or may not be giving an accurate idea of how he will play him.
And the brethren went away edified.
Fortunately, he's surrounded by enough truly great talent that he doesn't have to carry the movie. But I'd rather Frodo were portrayed competently. They should have hired an older actor, one with more life experience who might have had a better understanding of some of Frodo's thoughts and reactions.
And the brethren went away edified.
I heard Gollum but didn't see him... Yet on the german site they mentionned that there was a huge spoiler. What was it?
Very true. As a side-note regarding the Shining though, I think what Kubrick did to the film was what made it work. If you've read the original book and then viewed the film I think most can agree that this is one of those rare cases where the movie "version" far outshines the original literary work.
:-).
As much as I love Jackson's work (he's one of my favorite directors, right up there with Kubrick, Gilliam, Lynch, et al) I can't honestly say I expect the movie to live up to Tolkein's novels. I think it will be a beautiful movie, perhaps one of the best *ever* made, but I think to expect any film to accurately recreate every last tidbit of such a magnificient work is ridiculous and unreasonable. Regardless, I'm anxiously awaiting xmas time
you're quite right. my bad... too much caffeine fried my brain.
You're absolutely correct. I've been a fan of Peter Jackson since I first saw Bad Taste (the movie from which the exploding sheep reference is lifted) and have seen every flick he's directed since.
Quite simply, Jackson is an artist. Sure, maybe not the kind of artist the Kubrick or Lynch or Gilliam is, but an artist nonetheless. From the gruesome gibbiness of Dead Alive (some of which still makes me squirm) to the twisted puppetry of Meet The Feebles all the way to the beautiful cinematography and gifted storytelling seen in Beautiful Creatures, Jackson has been evolving towards this.
Think about it, an uncompromising director that has risen up from the ranks of 10 thousand dollar budget movies to play with the big boys, with experience with intricate puppetry (he now operates his own effects company that specializes in animatronics) and a knack for visual storytelling directing the epic LOTR. He's perfect.
For anyone that doubts based on his past in horror-comedies, please do yourself a favor and see Beautiful Creatures (a movie based on the real-life murder committed by two young girls in NZ in which Jackson not only portrays the actual events but also delves into their dream-world motivations -- it's brilliant). I don't think any of us will be disapointed with LOTR.
Nope. =_=
Orienting an emoticon so that it is readable along with the text is unnecessary, especially if it doesn't show the range of emotions previously available.
No range of emotions? ;_;
For some reason, I find that the people who do the ^_^ face tend to be anime zealots.
Many normal anime fans do it also. *_*
Is there a story behind this that I missed while watching live action movies?
Yes, and until you get over your immature prejudices against various types of storytelling, you'll never know. ^_~
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I hope they don't over play the whole thing like they did for Star Wars. I liked the movie of course, but they literally spammed the hell out of us with ads. I'd prefer to be pleasantly surprised with the film actually does come out.
On another note, the link to the streaming trailer is 404 and the download mirrors are toast.
We'll be drinking out of our Gandalf slushy-cups and be playing Frodo 3d for OSX. Actually, I already bought the Bilbo Baggins front cover for my Nokia phone, and it plays the theme song for LOTR. Oh, and look at Liv Tyler in the 2002 Middle Earth pinup calendar. "Power can be found in the smallest of things"...
Anyone know any mirrors of the mpeg version (i.e. fellowship2.mpeg)?
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You are wrong. That poster Anonymous Coward never posts anything intelligent. I assure you, his stupidty is permanent!
No mention anywhere in the trailer of the whole point of the journey!!
Three rings for the elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
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[Theonionring.net] is free, btw, if anyone wants to snap it up and see what WIPO has to say about it.
WIPO would probably award the domain to The Onion first.
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Why "Only Real format at this stage unfortunately" ? Be glad it ain't "Only Windoze Media format at this stage unfortunately.
Or Quicktime. It may be a nice format, but until support for more platforms comes, I don't like Apple much...
Everyone who makes generalizations should be shot.
Also: Orienting an emoticon so that it is readable along with the text is unnecessary, especially if it doesn't show the range of emotions previously available.
Ah... How so does ^_^ not show the "range of emotions previously available"? Is it not as happy as :-)? (Actually, I think it looks happier, but that's just me) If you're referring to the fact that there are many variations upon :-), such as ;-), >:-), :-D, and so forth, there are also a number of variations on ^_^. Ones that spring to mind include -_^ (winking), -_- (eyes drooping/frustrated), ^^; (anime sweatdrop -- nervous, apologetic. No, I don't know why the _ is typically dropped), O_O (amazed), o_o (frightened), =^_^= (cat-smiley; one of my favorites), and so forth. Many people also replace the _ with something else, so you could have ^.^ or ^o^.
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My sister first introduced me to ^_^ 5-6 years ago. I personally believe that she uses them b/c they are easier for a novice typer. (Hold down the shift key, hit 6-6; vs. hold shift, hit ';', release shift, hit '-', hold shift, hit '0'... something way to complex for my sister back then:-)
:-).
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PS, In order to stay on topic, I would like to point out that my sister STILL hasn't read LoTR. Heathen.
I've always seen ^_^ as the DeeDee to my Dexter
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> no chance of the film being better than the books,
> and if you see the film first you have spoiled the
> plot for the books. It's much better to spoil the
> plot for the films.
> -- DagSverre
The book is almost always better than the movie, that's why I try and see the movie before reading the book - that way I enjoy the movie, and later enjoy the book. If you read it 1st, the movie is always a disappointment.
Already read Silm, Hobb and LotR tho, but waiting for Fincher's Rama before reading it.
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Actually, there are some names from old norse myths. Oin, Gloin, and Gandalf (as a character in LOTR, bore an astonishing resemblence to Odin and had the moniker "the Grey Wanderer") were names of characters associated with Freyja, a Vanir hearth goddess. Check out "The Norse Myths" translated and retold by Kevin Crossley-Holland to get a gist of what I mean.
The story that Tolkein's writing tells is unique and epic in it's own right, but there are elements of several different belief systems present, and not just christianity. But there is no allegory there, that is for sure.
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'Hail Eris, baby, hail Eris...pfffffffttt.' *cough* 'Yeah.'
You have got to be kidding. That's the kind of negligent moronic attitude that can be directly attributed to Columbine. Sheltering your child from things is ludicrous, they'll find out sooner or later, and it's your own fault for not discussing things with them first. On top of all this, you're also claiming that magic is bad. Perhaps you spent too much time criticizing instead of actually _reading_ the books. These books are not meant to be a factual reference, they are labelled as _fantasy_ books for a reason. If your child can't distinguish between fantasy and reality, you're again failing your job as a parent. If you had properly educated the child, these kind of things could be taken as what they were intended, entertainment value. A child is going to be exposed to violence regardless of your futile efforts, sheltering them from the reality of it isn't helping anything. Don't blame an excellent set of books for your inability to educated a child.
what supprises me is that someone spent mod points to comment on my choice in emoticon's o.O
The download site warns of spoilers. How are they going to spoil it... reveal the ending?
I liked the part about selling both Ayn Rand books and Bibles from the same source. (For those who don't know, Ms. Rand was not simply an athiest, but actually had a strong hatred for organized religion. She also disaproved of charity in general, so buying her books to be given away to the needy, with Bibles, would probably have her turning in her grave.)
Well done, AC. I don't think anybody would have been fooled into thinking you were serious (although the ease with which people are trolled on /. never fails to astonish me), but it was kind of funny.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
I'm just having a hard time believing that SO MANY of my friends haven't read these books! I'm just waiting to see a preview of Bilbo biting off Gandalf's finger and Galadriel and Sarumon getting it on!
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In Real?? No thank you. I'll just wait couple of days before seeing it on Apple. Amazing quality.
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Why is Paul Reubens any different than the average pr0n surfing Slashdot reader? As disturbing as the Paul Reubens story may be, I happen to think he would make a great Golem. Just think of Pee Wee Herman with grey skin, sharp teeth, and cloudy eyes. Add that funky Pee Wee Herman suit... Now THAT'S CREEPY!
Tolkien was a teacher of Anglo Saxon. Though I never finished reading all of his books, I found the language aspects quite fascinating. I purchased some books back then that were about the languages of Middle Earth. Anyone with interest in Tolkien or language should read them. They are quite interesting. Perhaps seeing this movie will spark some more interest for me in reading the books. It has probably been 5 or 6 years since I've picked one up. I was peering through the new paperback at the bookstore yeterday (it has all three LOR books combined) and came across some old runes. My girlfriend probably didn't know what to think when I told her "I can still read some of these runes." She doesn't get that geek stuff.
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The real link is right here.
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Man, you have some weird sense of humor! At least one would hope...
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They stuck me in an institution, said it was the only solution, to...protect me from the enemy, myself
Are they going to have a bunch of annoying songs in it like they did in the Book.
I always skipped those.
That brought tears to my eyes. I've been waiting years for this movie. Just seeing a bit of my favorite scene (flight to the ford) gives me goosebumps.
The website Coming Attractions has links on The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King. It gives TONS of information on who is in it, where it is being filmed, etc...
They also have good information on movies like:
The Matrix Reloaded (Matrix 2)
The Matrix 3
Men In Black 2
and many other movies. If you are interested, they are a great site.
"Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke
Hmm, I missed the "Re:".
Sorry.
Ban it for Christian references? Amazing to see this on a site strongly supporting civil liberties...
Amazing how it's a violation of civil rights when the activity is politically correct (atheism or agnosticism) yet not when it's politically incorrect (Christianity).
If you don't like Christianity, don't see it. Mention to all your friends that they shouldn't see it. I hope you don't consider yourself a free speech advocate while calling for a banning.
Frankly, I trust Peter Jackson to direct LotR more than I would trust Kubrick, Gilliam, Ridley Scott, or what have you. While they are/were all great directors, I think each of them would try to bring too much of themselves to the film's direction. (A good example of this is The Shining, which exudes Kubrick-ness but bears almost no resemblance to the book on which it is based.) In every interview I've seen, Peter Jackson has shown a lot of respect, admiration, and outright love for the Lord of the Rings. He really seems to like his subject matter a lot, and that means more to me than any directing credentials.
...but I'll tell you what I'm not looking forward to: Jon Katz's review of Lord of the Rings. "In the wake of post-Columbine injustice, everybody but the Pinkertons are watching Lord of the Rings, a cyber-geek, cyber-thriller which will revolutionize open source. Blah blah blah sweeping generalization blah blah blah rhetorical grandstanding blah blah blah self-aggrandizing claptrap blah blah blah raging jackass..."
I agree. I always felt reading the Silmarillion was like reading the bible.
This type of thing really frightens me. I wish it hadn't been modded so far down, because this is a valid opinion; we're talking about the books and this person has voiced an opinion on the subject of the books. It's not fair to mod it so far down, but it frightens the hell out of me.
Gentleman: I respect your opinion -- that witchcraft and magic are the sorts of ideas that are dangerous to children. I do on aggree with you, but I respect the opinion. I suggest that your religion is not everyone's and at a certain point even the most fundamental of Christians need to accept the fact that some people choose not to be 'saved' as you say. This choice does exist to us, even in your rather literal interpretation (this is a supposition) of the four gospels.
Seriously, I don't like hearing about burning books. One of the things about computers is that we have become too used to the concept of "rm". Literature, art of any kind in fact, is not transitory. It should not be deletable. It is, from a social perspective, read-only. Remember when the Taliban were trashing those statues, and the world was up in arms? Repeat after me: WE DO NOT DELETE OUR ARTISTIC WORKS, REGARDLESS OF HOW WE DISAGREE WITH THEM.
I really, really think that this is a fundamental feature of democracy. Bigger than the daft little ritual with the slips of paper that we slip into the box.
Everything above may well be poorly-thought out / spelled. Blame the beer, not me.
Here's another mirror, of the download, not the streamer.
Gilgalad was an Elven King, Oh him the trailers will not sing, A movie who's face is fair and free Of the darkness, that Melkor be. The cast is clean and small of frame, But hobbits eyes reveal no pain That comes from burdens light and gold Who ancient curse will not be told. The voice of the tag-line is cliche And rings not of the eldar day On to middle earth you think we go But hollywood is from below. Where tolken dweleth none can say For long ago he went away And into darkness fell his star In the land of movies where Modor are.
Why would any movie producer release a trailer in this horrible Real format? Even in the downloadable version the audio is weak, the frame rate is low, and artifacts abound. Why not make it a nice, 50MB MPG video with perfect 44.1Khz audio? Using MPG also opens the trailer up to a larger audience and reduces the number of playback problems by freeing people from proprietary software. Everyone complains when trailers are only available in QuickTime, but at least they look nice (often almost DVD quality). The way people are using Real these days is just awful. When trying to promote a movie, producers should aim for quality, not saving bandwidth.
"Leave the strategizing to those of us with planet-sized brains." -Tycho
"Leave the strategizing to those of us with planet-sized brains." -Tycho
A much better site is here. It has the original and the new trailer as well.
Just my $0.04 (adjusted for inflation)
How about something new about The Matrix sequels, or maybe another Star Wars article. This LOTR stuff is VERY impressive, but geeze - move on already!
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One Site to tell them all,
One Site to remind them,
One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness completely Slashdot them.
I've tried to read the books several times but I always get bogged down and quit. The problem is that everyone has about 15 differet names and the books are so looooong. The farthest I've gotten is about halfway into "Two Towers". I love the story though and hope the movies will be good.
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