Oh well, and you forgot to write that caviar is a luxury food. Oh, it has nothing to do with the issue discussed? Well, neither does you answer.
The OP comment of no creature being "forgettable" was not about morality or the reasons for morality but about biology, ecology, diversity of species and their role in the ecosystems and / or there interest from a mere biologocial/zoological point of view... and here the horseshoe crab is actually quite an interesting animal being a living fossil...
I don't see what this all has to do with morality, do you see it?
Well, what would be necessary is not that bitcoin raises but that it finds it's way as a means of exchange, but people are more eager of speculating with it than they are of implementing strategies for using it as a currency and that is not happening.
In fact a relatively cheap but stable bitcoin would be ideal for trade but it isn't.
Don't tocuh my balls mister. Fucking towel heads have no idea on how to make a good anti-christian flick.
Best anti-christian stuff is done in the REAL west: The part of the world were we still honour science and don't walk the streets shooting and doctors for practicing abortions and where churches are sold as flat buildings.
That's what's actually valuable: The anonymized data. The private data linked to individuals is of no use for anybody not even for Google.
A person who has access to the private data of another person may have an asset with which to pressure this other person an entity that has billions or trillions of databits of billions of persons has nothing at all as the can't just waste time and effort in using it... while the anonymized bulk data is worth big money.
And it is not such a trivial part of Google's business, Big Data = $$$ and it will become even more important with time. Believe me.
I don't mean the Google Ads, but in general Advertisement, SEO and marketing as a whole, both online and offline. I many times just forget that people consider that an ad campaign is limited to the banners you see on web sites.
I know what Google provides, how it looks like and what it is used for as I was working since last month for comScore, one of the biggest players in Big Data and which plays the roles of competitor, customer and retailer for Google.
The data that Google (or comScore) has is of no use for them, in the same way as having a lot of stone is by itself of no use for somebody. Stone becomes useful when you have a purpose for it. And Google's purpose with the data is jsut to have it, that's enough and a huge business model all y itself, you don't need to "do" anything with the data itself but selling it to companies that do have a purpose for it... mostly SEO and marketing. And mostly useless SEO and marketing.
Big Data (note the capitals) is the new buzzword among marketeers and a religious trend is emerging of worship of Big Data, data that can feed their powerpoints and leads them to a never ending ecstasies of meetings and conferences (which is BTW what moves marketeers even more than raw cash).
Summing up: don't be afraid of big amounts of data, it doesn't do anything by itself and the ones who could use it are nothing but the average morons you meet every day on the street.
I am afraid that I didn't explain myself very well.
I wasn't meaning people who place ads exclusively but all the merchants that consume web analytics for such things as SEO and marketing. It's not a niche but huge part of today's economy. Big Data is the new buzzword and every company worth it's name want to have a few data-wranglers in staff. Unfortunately this people aren't statisticians or people who could do anything useful with the data but just marketeers, people who speak Powerpoint and use a large vocabulary of shiny cool buzzwords.
Other uses that many people are not aware off but that are far from scary is the creation of hit lists and "most viewed" or the management of online media. I have seen a few news sites using big data (not only from Google) in this way.
An emerging trend could be "the internet of things" but in a way more "mechanical" way than what Mr Kurzweil would like, namely just for telling a nearby gas station that it should ready a pump for your car.
Big Data is of no use by itself you need an already existing intelligence to make sense of it. And this intelligence needs a purpose, and a purpose is determined by the culture (I mean the non-written rules, the memes in the Dawkinian sense, and all the morale and social rules of the humans) and also my "emotions": actually a bunch of chaotic chemical reactions that drive us such as sexual desire, rage, boredom or greed (oh, I forgot to count "love", hos sad).
Thinking that you may create an intelligence just by putting a lot of data together is stupid and een in the case a super-duper-mega brain emerged from that it wouldn't be much different than a human with a very deep case of autism because it would lack a connection to our social and cultural sphere and the purpose that drives us.
And anything else would just be Eliza revisited, just as this Rollo chatbot...
Advertisers are ultimately who sell the stuff (books, music, clothes, chocolate, shoes...) so that they should remain being their largest customers unless Google themselves start selling the stuff themselves and I don't think they will be going this way.
The Ads aren't manager by Google but by a bunch of semi-literate imbeciles called marketeers that buy the data delivered by Google. And believe me these are idiots who have no clue, most of them don't even know statistics. I know it first hand as I got depressed by trying to explain to stupid folks like that basic concepts in web analytics such as the Hotel Problem or trying to tell them how to calculate an average.
I was working until last month for one of the big players in web analysis... and you would cry like I did with the type individuals that are doing all the "smart advertising" thing.
And Larry Kurzweil... nothing more than a funny guy, sort of a clown of the IT business. El Reg's Andrew Orlowsky already did minced meat of this guy some years ago in a long article. But here's another good one about another guy doing the same stuff: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
Which BTW isn't much more than that what Eliza was already doing a lot of time ago.
What do we need mind controlling aliens for? We already have cats controlling our brainz since more than 9000 years ago and taking over the intertubes!!
The IPCC is EVIL nad it is behind everything EVIL that happens in the world. They invented climate to start with. And everybody knows that IPCC is the acronym for Illuminaty Pokemon Collectors Club.
The IPCC is actually a department of SPECTRA lead by the evil Dr NO who infiltrated his evil Climate Scientists all over the world with the ulitmate goal of getting the tax money of the hard working US citizen.
This is all very well explained in South Park, or are you telling m,e that you don't watch South Park?
So, to start with all these "scientists", specially the ones calling themselves "Climate scientists" are members of SPECTRA, the IPCC or both (1) and all the data in the world has been made up by them. The Hockeystick graph is a swindle as it is indeed not a hockey stick but a candy cane, but they just don want us to know the truth about global cooling!
(1) limited offer util 10th March with 50% rebate and free access to the gym and the sauna)
But, but, the IPCC wheren't invented yet! Ah, the Time Machine, I got it. Bad, bad, climate Scientists!! They are so evil that they are able to develop time travel just to keep their jobs and get their funds
Oil companies? You mean like the Koch Brothers? No way man, these poor people putting money into something. No way these humble and simple people could fund anybody against the Evil IPCC...
Our friend also forgets that science is not only the words but that there is math and data backing it.
People love to fix their aims in one single person or acronym (Oreskes, IPCC) it's easy to recall and looks cool in a blog... and rant a few thousands of characters... curiously enough with he absolute conviction that what scientists are doing is just sitting somewhere writing stuff just for the sake of it and engaging in philosophical discussions.
That's why it's so difficult to make these people understand: They do not realise what science really is. They know words, not numbers, they know names, not equations. They aren't even aware of their existence or what use they are for even if a basic level of statistics would suffice, the same any marketeer uses every day or a humble web analyst uses. Not to speak about basic primary school physics. Greenhouse effect? That's an invention of the IPCC and Oreskes... it was already there before AGW? Well, the IPCC has invented the time machine and send Oreskes back to manipulate data;)
this has to be true as everybody and hte dog knows that global warming is not true!
What? There is no sign of temperatures going down? You unfaithful infidel! This is the work of the Evil IPCC who has worked with the NSA to hack all our thermometers!!!
That was our mayor national event. It used to be held every year. Then it changed to every few. The last ones were held with 11 years from each other and the last was in 1997.
In the past Dutch skaters used the channels as a mean of transport, postmen and even men with special barrows skated from town to town. If we still relied on these nowadays we would be facing a problem.
And recall that our country is in a great part below sea level. Even a minimal rise can cost us a lot of money in dike repairs and in the fight of underground water. The harbour of Rotterdam has several polders maintained dry with pumps, even a slight rise would cost us a lot of cash, energy and maybe a whole new investment in these pumps.
But well, the Models are wrong, everybody knows that, climate change is a scam, this has been clearly proven by Mr. Jim Inhofe, and a man who believes in a guy who stood up from the dead after having been nailed to a piece of wood can be wrong... and I have seen it in South Park too!!!
So. Tell me... who are the mofos who are stealing our ice?
In the US the army measures distance in KM , heigt in feet and speed in miles.
And I myself use to measure distance in miles (in Holland, mind you) for my trainings. For us runners it's easy, as w meassure in "olympic tracks", that's 400m or a quarter of a mile, 800m is the half mile and 4 loops the mile. Pretty neat. But please don't ask me to translate that into yards, inches, elbows, cowtails or whatever exotic subdivision you use over there. I myself count divide the mile into "decimiles" = 160m.
From your use of wording it seems to me that you are Scottish. I also assume that the weather is right now very much like here...
Not that I don't firmly believe that Climate does not exist and that the IPCC is a Global Conspiracy of ManBearPig and the whole Climate Scientist Collective aimed at stealing your hard earned tax money (as seen in South Park!). No, my Faith in Global Cooling is strong as Iron.
It's just that this year's Little Ice Age seems to be arriving a bit late to good old Europe, isn't it? And well, it's 17 years since we last celebrated our national Elfstedentocht [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht].
Well, I will continue praying, maybe next year we will have a few centimeters of snow to decorate our Little Ice Age.:_(
Nice. Our Little Ace Age is still a bit on the warm side this year:(, The Global Cooling that we are seeing right now here in Holland is 10C, a rather torrid Global Cooling thinking that we are supposed to be in the middle of skating season this year.
Mind you, I'm not saying that I have lost my faith in Global Cooling or that my brain haw been washed by evil Climate Scientist. I still hold strong and keep my tinfoil hat neat and in perfect order. I'ts just that I miss a bit of good old winter.
What the heck? There's nothing on the moon that could be "destroyed" by strip mining, it's just gray dirt and no ecosystem. And even the biggest mining operation wouldn't be visible from earth mate.
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Alcohol is alkaline too!!!
Therefore booze needs to be awesomely healthy!!!
cheers!!!
This was already tried by the Japanese in the 60's with alarming results.
I would seriously discourage the US scientist of continuing with their experiments.
Here you can see a documentary about the experiments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Oh well, and you forgot to write that caviar is a luxury food. Oh, it has nothing to do with the issue discussed? Well, neither does you answer.
The OP comment of no creature being "forgettable" was not about morality or the reasons for morality but about biology, ecology, diversity of species and their role in the ecosystems and / or there interest from a mere biologocial/zoological point of view... and here the horseshoe crab is actually quite an interesting animal being a living fossil...
I don't see what this all has to do with morality, do you see it?
Use humans instead? ;) (yeah, me bad)
Well, because there may be too many people in the world and I seriously don see why we should spend any extra effort in an anumal that's a plague.
I'm not making a joke, it really is my opinion. I seriously consider Heinlein's Spaceship Trooper's society to be a seriously good option.
And a crab that has survived hundreds of millions of years may be more valuable than an retarded redneck so fat he can't even lace his own shoes.
And there are 7000 Millions of bald apes on the planet. Too much waste in biomass if you ask me.
I am concerned that this will be used as an opportunity by extremists such as NASI GORENG for their own means.
Well, what would be necessary is not that bitcoin raises but that it finds it's way as a means of exchange, but people are more eager of speculating with it than they are of implementing strategies for using it as a currency and that is not happening.
In fact a relatively cheap but stable bitcoin would be ideal for trade but it isn't.
Don't tocuh my balls mister.
Fucking towel heads have no idea on how to make a good anti-christian flick.
Best anti-christian stuff is done in the REAL west: The part of the world were we still honour science and don't walk the streets shooting and doctors for practicing abortions and where churches are sold as flat buildings.
That's what's actually valuable: The anonymized data. The private data linked to individuals is of no use for anybody not even for Google.
A person who has access to the private data of another person may have an asset with which to pressure this other person an entity that has billions or trillions of databits of billions of persons has nothing at all as the can't just waste time and effort in using it... while the anonymized bulk data is worth big money.
And it is not such a trivial part of Google's business, Big Data = $$$ and it will become even more important with time. Believe me.
I already commented on that.
Yes, me bad.
I don't mean the Google Ads, but in general Advertisement, SEO and marketing as a whole, both online and offline.
I many times just forget that people consider that an ad campaign is limited to the banners you see on web sites.
I know what Google provides, how it looks like and what it is used for as I was working since last month for comScore, one of the biggest players in Big Data and which plays the roles of competitor, customer and retailer for Google.
The data that Google (or comScore) has is of no use for them, in the same way as having a lot of stone is by itself of no use for somebody. Stone becomes useful when you have a purpose for it. And Google's purpose with the data is jsut to have it, that's enough and a huge business model all y itself, you don't need to "do" anything with the data itself but selling it to companies that do have a purpose for it... mostly SEO and marketing. And mostly useless SEO and marketing.
Big Data (note the capitals) is the new buzzword among marketeers and a religious trend is emerging of worship of Big Data, data that can feed their powerpoints and leads them to a never ending ecstasies of meetings and conferences (which is BTW what moves marketeers even more than raw cash).
Summing up: don't be afraid of big amounts of data, it doesn't do anything by itself and the ones who could use it are nothing but the average morons you meet every day on the street.
I am afraid that I didn't explain myself very well.
I wasn't meaning people who place ads exclusively but all the merchants that consume web analytics for such things as SEO and marketing. It's not a niche but huge part of today's economy. Big Data is the new buzzword and every company worth it's name want to have a few data-wranglers in staff. Unfortunately this people aren't statisticians or people who could do anything useful with the data but just marketeers, people who speak Powerpoint and use a large vocabulary of shiny cool buzzwords.
Other uses that many people are not aware off but that are far from scary is the creation of hit lists and "most viewed" or the management of online media. I have seen a few news sites using big data (not only from Google) in this way.
An emerging trend could be "the internet of things" but in a way more "mechanical" way than what Mr Kurzweil would like, namely just for telling a nearby gas station that it should ready a pump for your car.
Big Data is of no use by itself you need an already existing intelligence to make sense of it. And this intelligence needs a purpose, and a purpose is determined by the culture (I mean the non-written rules, the memes in the Dawkinian sense, and all the morale and social rules of the humans) and also my "emotions": actually a bunch of chaotic chemical reactions that drive us such as sexual desire, rage, boredom or greed (oh, I forgot to count "love", hos sad).
Thinking that you may create an intelligence just by putting a lot of data together is stupid and een in the case a super-duper-mega brain emerged from that it wouldn't be much different than a human with a very deep case of autism because it would lack a connection to our social and cultural sphere and the purpose that drives us.
And anything else would just be Eliza revisited, just as this Rollo chatbot...
LOL, sorry. :P
Typing on a MacBook Pro reduces your IQ to the level of a slug
That's probably why it's so popular among marketeers :)
(just joking as the Macs don't include the main communication method for marketeers: MS Powerpoint!)
Advertisers are ultimately who sell the stuff (books, music, clothes, chocolate, shoes...) so that they should remain being their largest customers unless Google themselves start selling the stuff themselves and I don't think they will be going this way.
Or am I missing something?
Don't worry.
The Ads aren't manager by Google but by a bunch of semi-literate imbeciles called marketeers that buy the data delivered by Google.
And believe me these are idiots who have no clue, most of them don't even know statistics. I know it first hand as I got depressed by trying to explain to stupid folks like that basic concepts in web analytics such as the Hotel Problem or trying to tell them how to calculate an average.
I was working until last month for one of the big players in web analysis... and you would cry like I did with the type individuals that are doing all the "smart advertising" thing.
And Larry Kurzweil... nothing more than a funny guy, sort of a clown of the IT business. El Reg's Andrew Orlowsky already did minced meat of this guy some years ago in a long article. But here's another good one about another guy doing the same stuff:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
Which BTW isn't much more than that what Eliza was already doing a lot of time ago.
What do we need mind controlling aliens for? We already have cats controlling our brainz since more than 9000 years ago and taking over the intertubes!!
The IPCC is EVIL nad it is behind everything EVIL that happens in the world. They invented climate to start with.
And everybody knows that IPCC is the acronym for Illuminaty Pokemon Collectors Club.
The IPCC is actually a department of SPECTRA lead by the evil Dr NO who infiltrated his evil Climate Scientists all over the world with the ulitmate goal of getting the tax money of the hard working US citizen.
This is all very well explained in South Park, or are you telling m,e that you don't watch South Park?
So, to start with all these "scientists", specially the ones calling themselves "Climate scientists" are members of SPECTRA, the IPCC or both (1) and all the data in the world has been made up by them. The Hockeystick graph is a swindle as it is indeed not a hockey stick but a candy cane, but they just don want us to know the truth about global cooling!
(1) limited offer util 10th March with 50% rebate and free access to the gym and the sauna)
But, but, the IPCC wheren't invented yet!
Ah, the Time Machine, I got it.
Bad, bad, climate Scientists!! They are so evil that they are able to develop time travel just to keep their jobs and get their funds
Oil companies?
You mean like the Koch Brothers?
No way man, these poor people putting money into something. No way these humble and simple people could fund anybody against the Evil IPCC...
Our friend also forgets that science is not only the words but that there is math and data backing it.
People love to fix their aims in one single person or acronym (Oreskes, IPCC) it's easy to recall and looks cool in a blog... and rant a few thousands of characters... curiously enough with he absolute conviction that what scientists are doing is just sitting somewhere writing stuff just for the sake of it and engaging in philosophical discussions.
That's why it's so difficult to make these people understand: They do not realise what science really is. They know words, not numbers, they know names, not equations. They aren't even aware of their existence or what use they are for even if a basic level of statistics would suffice, the same any marketeer uses every day or a humble web analyst uses. Not to speak about basic primary school physics. Greenhouse effect? That's an invention of the IPCC and Oreskes... it was already there before AGW? Well, the IPCC has invented the time machine and send Oreskes back to manipulate data ;)
But, there are other theories!!
Global Cooling, for instance!!!
this has to be true as everybody and hte dog knows that global warming is not true!
What? There is no sign of temperatures going down? You unfaithful infidel! This is the work of the Evil IPCC who has worked with the NSA to hack all our thermometers!!!
Check this out:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
That was our mayor national event. It used to be held every year. Then it changed to every few. The last ones were held with 11 years from each other and the last was in 1997.
In the past Dutch skaters used the channels as a mean of transport, postmen and even men with special barrows skated from town to town. If we still relied on these nowadays we would be facing a problem.
And recall that our country is in a great part below sea level. Even a minimal rise can cost us a lot of money in dike repairs and in the fight of underground water. The harbour of Rotterdam has several polders maintained dry with pumps, even a slight rise would cost us a lot of cash, energy and maybe a whole new investment in these pumps.
But well, the Models are wrong, everybody knows that, climate change is a scam, this has been clearly proven by Mr. Jim Inhofe, and a man who believes in a guy who stood up from the dead after having been nailed to a piece of wood can be wrong... and I have seen it in South Park too!!!
So. Tell me... who are the mofos who are stealing our ice?
In the US the army measures distance in KM , heigt in feet and speed in miles.
And I myself use to measure distance in miles (in Holland, mind you) for my trainings.
For us runners it's easy, as w meassure in "olympic tracks", that's 400m or a quarter of a mile, 800m is the half mile and 4 loops the mile. Pretty neat. But please don't ask me to translate that into yards, inches, elbows, cowtails or whatever exotic subdivision you use over there. I myself count divide the mile into "decimiles" = 160m.
From your use of wording it seems to me that you are Scottish.
I also assume that the weather is right now very much like here...
Not that I don't firmly believe that Climate does not exist and that the IPCC is a Global Conspiracy of ManBearPig and the whole Climate Scientist Collective aimed at stealing your hard earned tax money (as seen in South Park!). No, my Faith in Global Cooling is strong as Iron.
It's just that this year's Little Ice Age seems to be arriving a bit late to good old Europe, isn't it? And well, it's 17 years since we last celebrated our national Elfstedentocht [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfstedentocht].
Well, I will continue praying, maybe next year we will have a few centimeters of snow to decorate our Little Ice Age. :_(
Nice. Our Little Ace Age is still a bit on the warm side this year :(,
The Global Cooling that we are seeing right now here in Holland is 10C, a rather torrid Global Cooling thinking that we are supposed to be in the middle of skating season this year.
Mind you, I'm not saying that I have lost my faith in Global Cooling or that my brain haw been washed by evil Climate Scientist. I still hold strong and keep my tinfoil hat neat and in perfect order. I'ts just that I miss a bit of good old winter.
What the heck? There's nothing on the moon that could be "destroyed" by strip mining, it's just gray dirt and no ecosystem. And even the biggest mining operation wouldn't be visible from earth mate.