I used to have some old 486 motherboards that had MR BIOS, and they could boot in about a second or so. You normally had to wait for the hard drive to spin up when cold booting.
But I do find it sort of funny how as you get into machines with loads of processor power, it takes them eons to boot. Sure, self tests and all that stuff are nice to have, but it's still funny.
Yup. Not only does Intel rake you over the coals by charging more for an inferior processor, they'll also make money selling you the fix!
Nope, with the money I save going with AMD from the start, I'll be able to put together a lovely multiple processor system for less money than a P4 & compilers from Intel, and it'll scream.
Exactly. VIA chipsets are terrible. The SiS735 shows promise, and ALi chipsets are slow (but stable). AMD needs to just take the plunge and start mass producing their own chipsets, much like Intel.
I have built a few AMD760 based systems, and they are just as stable as our Intel workstations. The only differences are the AMD workstations are cheaper, and run MUCH faster with our scientific applications under Linux.
I work on all kinds of cars, whenever I can. I used to be a faculty advisor for a college car club at Purdue University, (http://fox.vet.purdue.edu/) and got down and dirty with all sorts of automobiles.
My current project vehicle and daily driver is a 1984 Chevy K10 Blazer with the 6.2L diesel. I'm planning on adding a turbo kit from Banks in a year or so, and get this truck over 40mpg on the highway.
If you want politics, go with Debian. If you want a working system with very little hassle that you can tweak to your heart's content, go with anything else.
I use Slackware. I do not use packages beyond the initial install, aside from some security patches../configure --with-your-options=here && make && make install, that's all you need to know. Have problems? Read up on some HOWTOs or the included documentation (if any).
I'd rather buy Windows 2000 Pro and use that instead of using Debian.
I guess/. is in the advertise_our_site biz now. Funny thing is this stupid site's interface is an exect copy of Dr. Tom's site
This review is about three months late, and a couple hundred megahertz short.
All the major hardware sites have already done the 1.7gig, and actually compared it to a modern AMD processor. This site was a joke! What are they, bums in Silicon Valley doing hardware reviews for change?
Who can't afford one of the new AMD Athlons? Who CAN afford one of the new P4s?
P4 scales so much better than the AMD Athlon architecture that next year we'll be seeing 1.7 GHz Athlons and 2.5 GHz P4s.
AMDs only hope is that their Hammer architecture will kick Itanium's ass and now that Intel got the Alpha engineers and technology even that looks rather an iffy proposition.
Even if Intel does ramp their procs up to 2.5gigs, with the i845 chipset coming out (PC133/DDR SDRAM) those procs are going to fall flat on their faces.
RDRAM is what gives the P4's their edge. Once that's gone (and most consumer level machines WILL use the i845 because it's cheaper), you're going to see Intel in a world of hurt when it comes to performance.
Unless Intel makes some changes to their processors, or a faster DDR SDRAM technology comes out, you're going to see some serious ass kicking being done by AMD.
Sorry, but comparing a 1.1gig/200Mhz FSB Athlon to a 1.7gig P4 is laughable at best. What hardware review site uses a processor that's over a year old (Athlon 1.1gig/200FSB) in a comparison to one of the latest processors from the competition?
I suppose if you only had the money to buy either a PS2 or a cheap home computer, and wanted to run Linux, the PS2 might not be a bad option if you play a lot of games.
However, if you can afford a PS2 and lots of games, you could afford a used PC to run Linux on. A used PII-400 system would run Linux just great, and only cost a fraction of what a new system costs, maybe even the same as a PS2!
The storage options and expansion capabilities (or lack thereof) on the PS2 are a real turn off for me. It's a neat idea, and I'm glad people are playing with odd hardware and Linux, but I just don't see how this will be of any use to people, other than for entertainment.
Well, hopefully the government will take care of things in a swift and fair manner this time. It's truely embarrasing that the government screwed itself with this case, and how Microsoft is pretty much getting a second chance in the courts (well, not exactly a second chance, but it didn't hurt them).
Gah... And I agree. People all over the world have wasted entirely too much money on MS products.
Heh, heh! How very true. Thankfully, I'm not one of those people.
But, unforunately, EVERYONE has had some amount of money diverted from programs that could use it to pay for the government's case against Microsoft. Interested in weather forecasting?
I think it would be really interesting to figure out what exactly goes on in the Bermuda triangle. More ships and planes have been lost there than anywhere else, (to my limited knowledge), and the stories surrounding that area are facinating.
When was the last time a paper target held up a convenience store? When was the last time you heard about a paper target involved in a bank robbery?
See? People aren't interested in guns that shoot targets well, they're interested in guns that shoot PEOPLE well. People are the ones that do the bad things, not paper targets.
Yeah, I know. I've just been working on my computer for about four hours straight, and drinking heavily. My humour gland is not functioning properly, or something, because that reply seemed funny at the time.
Oh, well. Don't drink and post people... Innocent karma gets killed that way.
Someone using their computer for something useful!;-)
Actually, that's kinda neat. I'll have to try it out sometime.
So, what are the applications for this? It'd be neat to see if this program could take input from a video camera, (mounted in your hat, of course), process the data on a tiny wearable PC of some sort, and display the proper course of action to your VGA glasses. Off to the casinos!;-)
...to get a nuke plant up and running. I believe the early nuclear power plants were a losing proposition: It took more money to build and run the plant than it could bring back selling electricity in it's operating lifetime. I don't know if this is true today or not, but it's still something to consider.
I think that we need to start finding ways to really conserve energy. Better building materials, more efficient lighting/heating/cooling, more efficient large appliances, and more efficient power saving on computer systems.
Once we do that, we might find that something like wind/solar/hydroelectric might fit our needs better.
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I used to have some old 486 motherboards that had MR BIOS, and they could boot in about a second or so. You normally had to wait for the hard drive to spin up when cold booting.
But I do find it sort of funny how as you get into machines with loads of processor power, it takes them eons to boot. Sure, self tests and all that stuff are nice to have, but it's still funny.
Yup. Not only does Intel rake you over the coals by charging more for an inferior processor, they'll also make money selling you the fix!
Nope, with the money I save going with AMD from the start, I'll be able to put together a lovely multiple processor system for less money than a P4 & compilers from Intel, and it'll scream.
Exactly. VIA chipsets are terrible. The SiS735 shows promise, and ALi chipsets are slow (but stable). AMD needs to just take the plunge and start mass producing their own chipsets, much like Intel.
I have built a few AMD760 based systems, and they are just as stable as our Intel workstations. The only differences are the AMD workstations are cheaper, and run MUCH faster with our scientific applications under Linux.
I work on all kinds of cars, whenever I can. I used to be a faculty advisor for a college car club at Purdue University, (http://fox.vet.purdue.edu/) and got down and dirty with all sorts of automobiles.
My current project vehicle and daily driver is a 1984 Chevy K10 Blazer with the 6.2L diesel. I'm planning on adding a turbo kit from Banks in a year or so, and get this truck over 40mpg on the highway.
Should be interesting...
If you want politics, go with Debian. If you want a working system with very little hassle that you can tweak to your heart's content, go with anything else.
I use Slackware. I do not use packages beyond the initial install, aside from some security patches. ./configure --with-your-options=here && make && make install, that's all you need to know. Have problems? Read up on some HOWTOs or the included documentation (if any).
I'd rather buy Windows 2000 Pro and use that instead of using Debian.
I suppose now we need an open source equivalent to Dolby's AC-3 encoding.
Oh, well... They pushed. Should we shove back?
I have to say, the quality of Ogg Vorbis isn't too bad, and once this hits a stable release, it's only going to get better.
MP3s are OK, and LAME is a bad ass encoder, but I'm willing to give Ogg Vorbis a chance.
Dropping RDRAM and going backwards to PC133 memory is going to seriously kick P4 processors in the nuts.
This review is about three months late, and a couple hundred megahertz short.
All the major hardware sites have already done the 1.7gig, and actually compared it to a modern AMD processor. This site was a joke! What are they, bums in Silicon Valley doing hardware reviews for change?
Who can't afford one of the new AMD Athlons? Who CAN afford one of the new P4s?
Even if Intel does ramp their procs up to 2.5gigs, with the i845 chipset coming out (PC133/DDR SDRAM) those procs are going to fall flat on their faces.
RDRAM is what gives the P4's their edge. Once that's gone (and most consumer level machines WILL use the i845 because it's cheaper), you're going to see Intel in a world of hurt when it comes to performance.
Unless Intel makes some changes to their processors, or a faster DDR SDRAM technology comes out, you're going to see some serious ass kicking being done by AMD.
Tom's Hardware Guide or AnandTech
Sorry, but comparing a 1.1gig/200Mhz FSB Athlon to a 1.7gig P4 is laughable at best. What hardware review site uses a processor that's over a year old (Athlon 1.1gig/200FSB) in a comparison to one of the latest processors from the competition?
Man, my old roommate about went apeshit when all that crap with OLGA happened years ago.
The internet needs to be open.
Which doesn't exist, but I'm sure someone could whip something up for ya'!
Interested in weather forecasting?
Only if you truely believe every word MS utters, in which case I'd say you need to be put out of your misery.
Interested in weather forecasting?
I suppose if you only had the money to buy either a PS2 or a cheap home computer, and wanted to run Linux, the PS2 might not be a bad option if you play a lot of games.
However, if you can afford a PS2 and lots of games, you could afford a used PC to run Linux on. A used PII-400 system would run Linux just great, and only cost a fraction of what a new system costs, maybe even the same as a PS2!
The storage options and expansion capabilities (or lack thereof) on the PS2 are a real turn off for me. It's a neat idea, and I'm glad people are playing with odd hardware and Linux, but I just don't see how this will be of any use to people, other than for entertainment.
Oh, well. It's their money.
Interested in weather forecasting?
The computing power was provided by the guy's own home computer. No tax dollars wasted there.
The software he used was software he helped develop.
Read the article people. Your replies would sound so much more intelligent if you'd only read the article!
Interested in weather forecasting?
Well, hopefully the government will take care of things in a swift and fair manner this time. It's truely embarrasing that the government screwed itself with this case, and how Microsoft is pretty much getting a second chance in the courts (well, not exactly a second chance, but it didn't hurt them).
Gah... And I agree. People all over the world have wasted entirely too much money on MS products.
Interested in weather forecasting?
Heh, heh! How very true. Thankfully, I'm not one of those people.
But, unforunately, EVERYONE has had some amount of money diverted from programs that could use it to pay for the government's case against Microsoft.
Interested in weather forecasting?
I think it would be really interesting to figure out what exactly goes on in the Bermuda triangle. More ships and planes have been lost there than anywhere else, (to my limited knowledge), and the stories surrounding that area are facinating.
Atlantis would rule, though.
Interested in weather forecasting?
Her luggage actually made it on the next flight. It's still waiting in the baggage area of LAX.
Interested in weather forecasting?
When was the last time a paper target held up a convenience store? When was the last time you heard about a paper target involved in a bank robbery?
See? People aren't interested in guns that shoot targets well, they're interested in guns that shoot PEOPLE well. People are the ones that do the bad things, not paper targets.
Interested in weather forecasting?
Yeah, I know. I've just been working on my computer for about four hours straight, and drinking heavily. My humour gland is not functioning properly, or something, because that reply seemed funny at the time.
Oh, well. Don't drink and post people... Innocent karma gets killed that way.
Interested in weather forecasting?
I clicked on that link, but nothing happend.
:-)
Oh, wait, I forgot. I'm running Linux.
Interested in weather forecasting?
Someone using their computer for something useful! ;-)
;-)
Actually, that's kinda neat. I'll have to try it out sometime.
So, what are the applications for this? It'd be neat to see if this program could take input from a video camera, (mounted in your hat, of course), process the data on a tiny wearable PC of some sort, and display the proper course of action to your VGA glasses. Off to the casinos!
Interested in weather forecasting?
...to get a nuke plant up and running. I believe the early nuclear power plants were a losing proposition: It took more money to build and run the plant than it could bring back selling electricity in it's operating lifetime. I don't know if this is true today or not, but it's still something to consider.
I think that we need to start finding ways to really conserve energy. Better building materials, more efficient lighting/heating/cooling, more efficient large appliances, and more efficient power saving on computer systems.
Once we do that, we might find that something like wind/solar/hydroelectric might fit our needs better.
Interested in weather forecasting?