So, what is so unique about doing this on a computer or online?
The computer is a magical box where fairies and elves live (to most people). That is why its so unique. Those of us who know how computers work... we understand better than the layperson.
See, I don't mind port-based QoS. SSH should be priorized over BitTorrent. I'm worried about host-based QoS. MSN shouldn't be prioritized over Google or Yahoo!.
IN THEORY Communism looks great. In practice, it completely ignores the fact that humans WILL act in their own percieved interest, and will NOT give "to each according to their needs".
In theory, EVERYTHING looks great. You act as if socialism or capitalism work perfectly according to theory as well.
As far as people ALWAYS acting in their own interest, that isn't true. Some people are naturally more altruistic and/or community-oriented than other people. For instance, I'm libertarian socialist. I don't expect nor want the government to force my views on you, but in absence of any government, I would generally act in a way consistent with that article.
You are correct in one aspect. The problem comes when a specific economic system is forced on people who don't like it. Many (most?) people are not altruistic and will always look out for themselves first. Its just a shame that we can't get all the capitalists under a single government, all the socialists under another, the fascists... etc.
For these reasons I advocate a return of power to the states so that people can move around to different places that have governments that best represent their beliefs. We should have a convention to re-write the constitution from scratch that allows for a very broad overview of what we all want protected. For instance, I think everyone can agree on free speech and a few other rights. Then you can go to your state government and add (but not subtract) other rights you wish to be protected, say right to life, right to abortion, whatever you like.
Now, the rabid right can leave the rest of us alone and live in Leave It to Beaver-ville. Conversely, anti-tax conservatives/libertarians can have their no-tax states and live in peace.
Oh, no. The ISPs are being lazy. They want to milk every last penny they can out of the lines that were bought and paid for by the American taxpayer.
We could be South Korea as far as broadband, but the ISPs would much rather sit back and rake in their monopoly profits (in some areas there are local monopolies for high-speed Internet access). Don't give me crap about being so rural. We've apparently got a hell of an economy, I've been told, and even then, that doesn't say why all the urban areas don't have 100mbps fiber connections yet.
The easy solution is to buy some fat ass pipes. Hell take out a loan or two. You know what they say: good, fast, cheap... pick any two.
This is the key point in the Open Source v. Free Software battle that has been raging for the past few years. Open Source is about making a better product through open methods. More eyeballs means less bugs and the such. The people who believe in Open Source are at their nature pragmatists and are only out to make the best software.
Free Software is about preserving the user's freedom to do certain things with software. The FSF, RMS, GNU, et al. are only about these things. They could really care less if "Linux" becomes popular or is even performs well. These people are idealists. The "open-source spirit" [sic] is and never was about making a "good" operating system, but was about making a free one.
The problem comes when a pragmatist (Linus) created a kernel (Linux) that is traditionally run with other OS utilities (GNU) made by an idealist (RMS). Linus released Linux under the GPL because it was the best way to get more people using it and to make it better. He really couldn't care less about the 4 freedoms or anything like that.
Hopefully this division between the feuding sides will quit bickering once the Hurd gets done. That way, the idealists will have their kernel and the pragmatists can use theirs.
Seeing as GNOME is developed by the FSF and is part of GNU, you'd expect them not to care much about porting to other OSes. Stallman has said again and again that freedom is more important than popularity. He could probably care less if GNOME or any GNU program will run on anything other than GNU, be that GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, or even GNU/Hurd.
The most interesting thing, IMO, is that I have not heard of a single instance where the Democratic candidate got more votes as a result of a software error. On the other side of the token, I recall Ralph Nader asking for a hand recount of certain areas of New Hampshire where the vote favored Bush by 10% more than the exit polls were calling for. The recount was done and matched the original count. This leads to one ore more of the following conclusions:
1) The exit polls were done unscientifically. 2) Voters lied to pollsters about their choice. 3) Voters thought they voted for Kerry, but ended up having their vote count for Bush. 4) A once-in-the-life-of-the-universe type event happened where all methods were sound, but the pollsters randomly picked up Bush voters rather than Kerry voters.
I would consider myself an authoritative source on the matter since I was involved in the 2004 recount in Ohio. I observed in an official capacity the recount in Clark and Shelby counties and in an unofficial capacity the recount in Greene county. I will now state some facts that you may take as you will.
Punch cards were used in all these counties. None of the equipment used was Diebold equipment. Recounts were run more loosely in Greene and Shelby counties (Republican strongholds) than in Clark county (about 50-50). I spoke with the Greene county board chairman. He said that he took responsibility for not realizing that increased voter registration would mean they would need more machines (his exact words were, "We dropped the ball on that").
On your points:
1) Most of Ohio was using Florida-style punch card ballots. A few places used optical scan. Fewer yet used the Diebold electronic machines. I cannot recall which counties had Diebold machines. If you care to research it yourself, keep in mind that most of Ohio is red except for areas near the lake and the rust belt regions of Akron, Canton, and on over to Youngstown. Columbus and Dayton are swing regions. Cincinnati is very red for a large city.
2) Yes, the security practices of Diebold, Inc. border on the criminally negligent.
3) Local boards of election, IIRC, decided how the votes would be recorded. Elections are run by our Secretary of State, but local boards are given some freedom as well. I am not sure exactly who makes the final decisions. It should be noted that our boards of election are not elected, but are appointed and must have equal numbers of registered Republicans and Democrats on them.
The only board of election under investigation of impropriety is the Cuyahoga board (the bluest county in Ohio). The allegation is that they pre-counted the "randomly" selected ballots themselves in order to make sure the count came out correctly so that they wouldn't have to recount all the ballots by hand. In our recent primary election, the same board had trouble with getting the machines running in a certian precinct. Usually our polls are open from 6:30a - 7:30p. That precinct didn't open until 1:30p, which prompted a judge to order it open until 9:30p.
the Democrats support the "Bush == Nazi" types in their midst
Really? Name one Democrat running for federal office who has made the comparison. Its fucking true, but I don't know anyone who'd say it publicly.
which is why we need a sane Democratic Party that normal people can vote for
I spoke to a friend who went to an "elitist snob" school in DC for a quarter. We talked and I said that everyone in middle america who votes for Republicans is because of that stereotype. Your rank and file Democrat isn't in line with the views of Cynthia McKinney, just as your rank and file Republican isn't in line with the views of I know quite a few "normal" people who are fed up with the state of affairs. They're having trouble voting for the Democrats because they aren't liberal enough and don't attack Republicans enough. One of these people is my nearly life-long Republican grandfather.
The idea that the Democrats can win by "fishing in the Republicans' pond" has failed for the last 6 years. Let us hope they gain their voice and win back at least one house. I'd much prefer a "hung congress" of sorts with a few dozen Libertarians, Greens, and independents, but that isn't very likely as of yet.
As we all know "terrorism" is the root password to the Constitution. This question asks only about terrorism. I wonder what their answers would be if the question was:
"Do you find the NSA program to be an acceptable way to investigate drug use?"
or
"Do you find the NSA program to be an acceptable way to investigate copyright infringment?"
We all know these programs will not be used for only terrorism, but for everyday crimes. Will people care then?
It authenticates only the first 8 letters of your password and uses a pretty weak DES challenge algorithm. After that, everything else is in the clear.
I'm a bit skeptical about the motives here when the comapany is in the business of selling Remote Control software.
I would be as well, but the software is under the GPL, so I don't think they're going to be trying to throw any backdoors in there without some serious obfuscation.
One could assume you prefer the BSD license over the GPL.
People who either are unable or unwilling to contribute to the bottom line are able to be carried along on the shoulders of those who are capable and do do the work.
Agreed, that is the downside of a union. The upside is that if you are in a very precarious job situation, you have the ability to collectively bargain with your peers to keep management from taking away the morning coffee.
Lets also not forget that in many unions, ones loyalties are to the union and the company you work for far behind.
It comes from the idea that the company isn't doing what is in your best interest. As TA said, shareholders are often put before those that create the wealth. In fact, I think only Costco puts its employees before the shareholders.
And the day I'm loyal to my company, please take me out back and shoot me. I'll be as loyal to them as they are to me. I'm loyal to them to the extent they pay me and nothing else.
"It's not a wiretapping program, it's simply a compilation, according to the report here, of numbers that phone companies maintain," said Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama.
He compared it to "mail covers" and "pen registers," techniques long used by law-enforcement authorities to record the addresses on letters or calls made by individuals under investigation. No warrant is needed for such efforts, but the government must certify with a court that the information likely to be obtained is relevant to an ongoing investigation.
IIRC, states would call a special election where we could elect representatives to the convention. In that fashion, we could probably do rather well. It's never happened, so I don't know exactly.
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So, what is so unique about doing this on a computer or online?
... we understand better than the layperson.
The computer is a magical box where fairies and elves live (to most people). That is why its so unique. Those of us who know how computers work
See, I don't mind port-based QoS. SSH should be priorized over BitTorrent. I'm worried about host-based QoS. MSN shouldn't be prioritized over Google or Yahoo!.
IN THEORY Communism looks great. In practice, it completely ignores the fact that humans WILL act in their own percieved interest, and will NOT give "to each according to their needs".
... etc.
In theory, EVERYTHING looks great. You act as if socialism or capitalism work perfectly according to theory as well.
As far as people ALWAYS acting in their own interest, that isn't true. Some people are naturally more altruistic and/or community-oriented than other people. For instance, I'm libertarian socialist. I don't expect nor want the government to force my views on you, but in absence of any government, I would generally act in a way consistent with that article.
You are correct in one aspect. The problem comes when a specific economic system is forced on people who don't like it. Many (most?) people are not altruistic and will always look out for themselves first. Its just a shame that we can't get all the capitalists under a single government, all the socialists under another, the fascists
Communism != Stalin
Stalin was someone to fear. Communism never was (and still isn't).
This case is about national security.
Are you sure? I'm not.
Very well put.
For these reasons I advocate a return of power to the states so that people can move around to different places that have governments that best represent their beliefs. We should have a convention to re-write the constitution from scratch that allows for a very broad overview of what we all want protected. For instance, I think everyone can agree on free speech and a few other rights. Then you can go to your state government and add (but not subtract) other rights you wish to be protected, say right to life, right to abortion, whatever you like.
Now, the rabid right can leave the rest of us alone and live in Leave It to Beaver-ville. Conversely, anti-tax conservatives/libertarians can have their no-tax states and live in peace.
Oh, no. The ISPs are being lazy. They want to milk every last penny they can out of the lines that were bought and paid for by the American taxpayer.
... pick any two.
We could be South Korea as far as broadband, but the ISPs would much rather sit back and rake in their monopoly profits (in some areas there are local monopolies for high-speed Internet access). Don't give me crap about being so rural. We've apparently got a hell of an economy, I've been told, and even then, that doesn't say why all the urban areas don't have 100mbps fiber connections yet.
The easy solution is to buy some fat ass pipes. Hell take out a loan or two. You know what they say: good, fast, cheap
This is the key point in the Open Source v. Free Software battle that has been raging for the past few years. Open Source is about making a better product through open methods. More eyeballs means less bugs and the such. The people who believe in Open Source are at their nature pragmatists and are only out to make the best software.
Free Software is about preserving the user's freedom to do certain things with software. The FSF, RMS, GNU, et al. are only about these things. They could really care less if "Linux" becomes popular or is even performs well. These people are idealists. The "open-source spirit" [sic] is and never was about making a "good" operating system, but was about making a free one.
The problem comes when a pragmatist (Linus) created a kernel (Linux) that is traditionally run with other OS utilities (GNU) made by an idealist (RMS). Linus released Linux under the GPL because it was the best way to get more people using it and to make it better. He really couldn't care less about the 4 freedoms or anything like that.
Hopefully this division between the feuding sides will quit bickering once the Hurd gets done. That way, the idealists will have their kernel and the pragmatists can use theirs.
Seeing as GNOME is developed by the FSF and is part of GNU, you'd expect them not to care much about porting to other OSes. Stallman has said again and again that freedom is more important than popularity. He could probably care less if GNOME or any GNU program will run on anything other than GNU, be that GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, or even GNU/Hurd.
Sensenbrenner is a member of the House, not the Senate.
The most interesting thing, IMO, is that I have not heard of a single instance where the Democratic candidate got more votes as a result of a software error. On the other side of the token, I recall Ralph Nader asking for a hand recount of certain areas of New Hampshire where the vote favored Bush by 10% more than the exit polls were calling for. The recount was done and matched the original count. This leads to one ore more of the following conclusions:
1) The exit polls were done unscientifically.
2) Voters lied to pollsters about their choice.
3) Voters thought they voted for Kerry, but ended up having their vote count for Bush.
4) A once-in-the-life-of-the-universe type event happened where all methods were sound, but the pollsters randomly picked up Bush voters rather than Kerry voters.
I would consider myself an authoritative source on the matter since I was involved in the 2004 recount in Ohio. I observed in an official capacity the recount in Clark and Shelby counties and in an unofficial capacity the recount in Greene county. I will now state some facts that you may take as you will.
Punch cards were used in all these counties. None of the equipment used was Diebold equipment. Recounts were run more loosely in Greene and Shelby counties (Republican strongholds) than in Clark county (about 50-50). I spoke with the Greene county board chairman. He said that he took responsibility for not realizing that increased voter registration would mean they would need more machines (his exact words were, "We dropped the ball on that").
On your points:
1) Most of Ohio was using Florida-style punch card ballots. A few places used optical scan. Fewer yet used the Diebold electronic machines. I cannot recall which counties had Diebold machines. If you care to research it yourself, keep in mind that most of Ohio is red except for areas near the lake and the rust belt regions of Akron, Canton, and on over to Youngstown. Columbus and Dayton are swing regions. Cincinnati is very red for a large city.
2) Yes, the security practices of Diebold, Inc. border on the criminally negligent.
3) Local boards of election, IIRC, decided how the votes would be recorded. Elections are run by our Secretary of State, but local boards are given some freedom as well. I am not sure exactly who makes the final decisions. It should be noted that our boards of election are not elected, but are appointed and must have equal numbers of registered Republicans and Democrats on them.
The only board of election under investigation of impropriety is the Cuyahoga board (the bluest county in Ohio). The allegation is that they pre-counted the "randomly" selected ballots themselves in order to make sure the count came out correctly so that they wouldn't have to recount all the ballots by hand. In our recent primary election, the same board had trouble with getting the machines running in a certian precinct. Usually our polls are open from 6:30a - 7:30p. That precinct didn't open until 1:30p, which prompted a judge to order it open until 9:30p.
Maybe "terrorism" is the root password congress gets to use while Bush can use sudo to temporarily escalate his privledges using "child porn".
We need a balance of the two parties.
No, we need a balance of 3, 4, or even 5 parties.
the Democrats support the "Bush == Nazi" types in their midst
Really? Name one Democrat running for federal office who has made the comparison. Its fucking true, but I don't know anyone who'd say it publicly.
which is why we need a sane Democratic Party that normal people can vote for
I spoke to a friend who went to an "elitist snob" school in DC for a quarter. We talked and I said that everyone in middle america who votes for Republicans is because of that stereotype. Your rank and file Democrat isn't in line with the views of Cynthia McKinney, just as your rank and file Republican isn't in line with the views of I know quite a few "normal" people who are fed up with the state of affairs. They're having trouble voting for the Democrats because they aren't liberal enough and don't attack Republicans enough. One of these people is my nearly life-long Republican grandfather.
The idea that the Democrats can win by "fishing in the Republicans' pond" has failed for the last 6 years. Let us hope they gain their voice and win back at least one house. I'd much prefer a "hung congress" of sorts with a few dozen Libertarians, Greens, and independents, but that isn't very likely as of yet.
I didn't make it up, but thanks anyway.
As we all know "terrorism" is the root password to the Constitution. This question asks only about terrorism. I wonder what their answers would be if the question was:
"Do you find the NSA program to be an acceptable way to investigate drug use?"
or
"Do you find the NSA program to be an acceptable way to investigate copyright infringment?"
We all know these programs will not be used for only terrorism, but for everyday crimes. Will people care then?
Correct.
It authenticates only the first 8 letters of your password and uses a pretty weak DES challenge algorithm. After that, everything else is in the clear.
I'm a bit skeptical about the motives here when the comapany is in the business of selling Remote Control software.
I would be as well, but the software is under the GPL, so I don't think they're going to be trying to throw any backdoors in there without some serious obfuscation.
Now that... is true freedom!
One could assume you prefer the BSD license over the GPL.
People who either are unable or unwilling to contribute to the bottom line are able to be carried along on the shoulders of those who are capable and do do the work.
Agreed, that is the downside of a union. The upside is that if you are in a very precarious job situation, you have the ability to collectively bargain with your peers to keep management from taking away the morning coffee.
Lets also not forget that in many unions, ones loyalties are to the union and the company you work for far behind.
It comes from the idea that the company isn't doing what is in your best interest. As TA said, shareholders are often put before those that create the wealth. In fact, I think only Costco puts its employees before the shareholders.
And the day I'm loyal to my company, please take me out back and shoot me. I'll be as loyal to them as they are to me. I'm loyal to them to the extent they pay me and nothing else.
ummmm.....
Perhaps you'd like to post it now?
IIRC, states would call a special election where we could elect representatives to the convention. In that fashion, we could probably do rather well. It's never happened, so I don't know exactly.
Technically, you're right.
Linux more about Open Source than Free Software.
A sibling poster put the issue to rest. The NSA is a government agency.
If this was 2 private entities making deals, the best we'd have is a tort. This isn't.
Read the 4th and 9th amendments and then get back to me.