I do not live in the US (from you login I guess neither do you), so the feds will not be knocking on my door.
In Denmark you do not have to prove your innocense. There are no laws that makes you automatically responsible for traffic on you network, phone lines, etc.
Of course you can still get sued for anything, and the police might ask you questions.
It does not matter. It is meaningless to have standards for DRM.
Standards is about allowing interoperability. DRM is about hindering interoperability.
No matter what DRM system Google build, I will not be able to build my own player that can use Google's material without signing contracts and paying money.
Many alternative OS's add POSIX/LINUX/UNIX interface so they can run Unix and Linux programs. Some can even use Linux drivers.
Very few use them because they mature much slower than Linux evolve to incorporate whatever features they have. In very few years Linux have improved dramatically on security (eg SE-Linux), realtime, embedded use, NUMA, modularity, etc.
> Until a killer app comes out that ONLY runs on a Video-based OS
And what is the chances that Linux will not evolve fast enough to run that killer app at that time.
I know because I am in Canada for christmas and we got a couple of european DVD's. Of course no DVD player in the house would play them and the only computers with a DVD-drive were running Windows and would also not play them.
But VLC were installed in a few minutes and worked with a charm.
And a few people realised why I was wearing my "no CSS" thinkgeek T-shirt:-)
He makes the usual mistake of believing it is all about music and video.
The industry can put all kinds of control in their products as long as I can just choose not to buy them.
But when they try to regulate the equipment I use to make holiday movies it is an entirely different matter.
I too would like good artists to make a decent living. But bills like this is essentially saying that artists (and their record companies) are first class citizens and that I am a second class citizen.
(If I lived in the US that is but if they succeed in the US, Europe will be next).
== I've been wondering for years why some deep-pocketed company with an agenda other than 'selling software' doesn't buy TrollTec and LGPL QT. Would that end this controversy once and for all? Probably not, but at least KDE and GNOME could compete on the merits rather than on their licenses. ==
Apparently you want the same license for KDE and Gnome. How about you just take the Gnome source code and release it as GPL?
Of course some Gnome developers would continue to license their work as LGPL. Just as KDE some developers would continue to release their works as GPL.
>So you want to go into a private business, rent computer time and an internet >connection, conduct whatever behavior you want on their systems and then leave, totally >anonymously,
Yes, that is exactly what I want. And I let other do the same on my connection.
>with no accountability for what you did on their systems?
I am always responsible for what I do. That does not mean that I want everything I do recorded.
I also want to go into a bar or hotel room without being recorded by hidden microphones.
We are not talking about credit, genius, etc. We are talking about preventing people from using their own ideas.
Pythagoras, Einstein, and Newton did not get patents on their ideas.
They made their brilliant work knowing they could not stop other from using the same knowledge.
They were even telling other people about their ideas, so that they could use them and build on them.
== If you were the first person to envision a large, artificial body of water that could be placed on private property for the use and enjoyment of people, you developed that idea, and registered it at the patent office, then I think that you should have the right to stop a neighbor who just read the idea and wanted one. ==
Why? Because of if the neighbour got one it would make me feel less rich? Because I have the right to annoy my neighbour? Because we have to stop the spreading of ideas?
And what if the neighbour did not read about it, but came up the pool-idea on his own? He should still not be allowed to make a pool?
The difference is that somebody elses land does not pop in my head all the time.
Land and ideas are very different concepts.
It is more like me getting the idea of putting a swimming pool on my land, then preventing you from putting a pool on your land, then deciding not to put a pool on my land.
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I do not live in the US (from you login I guess neither do you), so the feds will not be knocking on my door.
t aget/L61.htm but it is only relavant for commercial services, which my AP is not.
In Denmark you do not have to prove your innocense. There are no laws that makes you automatically responsible for traffic on you network, phone lines, etc.
Of course you can still get sued for anything, and the police might ask you questions.
There is a danish equivalent of the "Common Carrier" concept in the law on electronic trading etc. http://www.ft.dk/Samling/20012/lovforslag_som_ved
> Usually not knowing it's a crime is no get outta jail card.
It is not about knowing if it is a crime. It is about who is acutally committing a crime.
Just because the traffic was routed through your AP and you ISP does not mean that you or your ISP committed the crime.
> DRM does have legitimate uses -
Yes.
>would you like to get on a plane or use a bank whose computer systems had been
>raked over by HaX0r O'Wally and his pals?
And this is not one of them. DRM or TPM cannot do anythink for planes or bank servers that a bootable CD cannot already do.
TPM gives you no more control over computers that you already physically controls.
Yes, and even most of those that end up contributing, start using OSS because it is free as in beer.
I certainly could not have afforded a commercial Unix when I installed my first Slackware.
How about JFFS2?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFFS2
Or minixFS.
They could make a windows port. Cameras come with a windows install CD anyway.
Or they could just make a program that would extract pictures from a JFFS image and store them on a windoes computer.
Some kameras transfer pictures to the PC using PTP. I.e. Windows does not need to know the filesystym on the flash disk.
It does not matter. It is meaningless to have standards for DRM.
Standards is about allowing interoperability.
DRM is about hindering interoperability.
No matter what DRM system Google build, I will not be able to build my own player that can use Google's material without signing contracts and paying money.
> For those wanting to change, there's a super-polished, UNIX user friendly, open-source running contender in Apple's OS X.
OS X it not Open Source.
They do have the essential apps.
Many alternative OS's add POSIX/LINUX/UNIX interface so they can run Unix and Linux programs. Some can even use Linux drivers.
Very few use them because they mature much slower than Linux evolve to incorporate whatever features they have. In very few years Linux have improved dramatically on security (eg SE-Linux), realtime, embedded use, NUMA, modularity, etc.
> Until a killer app comes out that ONLY runs on a Video-based OS
And what is the chances that Linux will not evolve fast enough to run that killer app at that time.
Just use VLC
:-)
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
I know because I am in Canada for christmas and we got a couple of european DVD's. Of course no DVD player in the house would play them and the only computers with a DVD-drive were running Windows and would also not play them.
But VLC were installed in a few minutes and worked with a charm.
And a few people realised why I was wearing my "no CSS" thinkgeek T-shirt
He makes the usual mistake of believing it is all about music and video.
The industry can put all kinds of control in their products as long as I can just choose not to buy them.
But when they try to regulate the equipment I use to make holiday movies it is an entirely different matter.
I too would like good artists to make a decent living. But bills like this is essentially saying that artists (and their record companies) are first class citizens and that I am a second class citizen.
(If I lived in the US that is but if they succeed in the US, Europe will be next).
But look at the "bright" side.
As long as they keep playing Eminem CDs at Abu Grahib we will see no more of those disgusting home videos.
==
I've been wondering for years why some deep-pocketed company with an agenda other than 'selling software' doesn't buy TrollTec and LGPL QT. Would that end this controversy once and for all? Probably not, but at least KDE and GNOME could compete on the merits rather than on their licenses.
==
Apparently you want the same license for KDE and Gnome.
How about you just take the Gnome source code and release it as GPL?
Of course some Gnome developers would continue to license their work as LGPL. Just as KDE some developers would continue to release their works as GPL.
kword does a good job at editing PDF-files.
>Think about this for a second.
I have been thinking about this for many years.
>So you want to go into a private business, rent computer time and an internet
>connection, conduct whatever behavior you want on their systems and then leave, totally
>anonymously,
Yes, that is exactly what I want. And I let other do the same on my connection.
>with no accountability for what you did on their systems?
I am always responsible for what I do. That does not mean that I want everything I do recorded.
I also want to go into a bar or hotel room without being recorded by hidden microphones.
>This would be inline with other content providers like television where there has to be some control over access to
>pornoghapic content.
There does not _have_ to be control. Some countries have more or less censorship af television.
I am more worried about children getting exposed to Scientology and coke-snorting fashion models with eating disorders.
Can I get a filter so that you have to sign up for Scientology, Fashion etc to access it on the internet.
I went to the IPv6 panel at WSIS. It certainly seemed that africa is moving fast to IPv6.
I run joe (as jmacs) on mine. Joe is a openWRT package.
> 4) Who says I have an e-mail address? Where is an e-mail address required to travel?
They can have mine. It is seat37AflightUA666@mailinator.com
Here is my photo of Stallmans and the UN-guardi s3StallmanGuardSign.jpg.html
http://www.agol.dk/gallery/v/NielsPublic/wsis/tun
But SIP is an open standard so it does not have to be the same company that offer the US phone numbers.
And you can have severel phone number in different countries on the same SIP-account.
ipkall.com gives you a Washington phone number for free
I saw a prototype today. It was running Fedora:i s100USDPC.jpg.html :-)
http://www.agol.dk/gallery/v/NielsPublic/wsis/Tun
(not the green cardboard modex, the plexiglass one
We are not talking about credit, genius, etc. We are talking about preventing people from using their own ideas.
Pythagoras, Einstein, and Newton did not get patents on their ideas.
They made their brilliant work knowing they could not stop other from using the same knowledge.
They were even telling other people about their ideas, so that they could use them and build on them.
==
If you were the first person to envision a large, artificial body of water that could be placed on private property for the use and enjoyment of people, you developed that idea, and registered it at the patent office, then I think that you should have the right to stop a neighbor who just read the idea and wanted one.
==
Why? Because of if the neighbour got one it would make me feel less rich? Because I have the right to annoy my neighbour? Because we have to stop the spreading of ideas?
And what if the neighbour did not read about it, but came up the pool-idea on his own? He should still not be allowed to make a pool?
The difference is that somebody elses land does not pop in my head all the time.
Land and ideas are very different concepts.
It is more like me getting the idea of putting a swimming pool on my land, then preventing you from putting a pool on your land, then deciding not to put a pool on my land.
They would have to drop their prices to about the price for long distance e-mail
I switched to VoIP and saved 90% on my phone bill. I saved on long distance calls but also because many calls are from IP to IP, which is free.
I pay ca $9/month for internet and $1/month for VoIP phone number (Call-in)
A fixed line is $20/month and the calls much more expensive.
The US cannot pull the plug on Venezeula.
The internet should not be governed.
How do you plan to make us all use those pan-national nameservers. Send out the UN police to make them.
I use orsn.net, not ICANN. Is that OK or should I be forced to use special pan-national servers?