- There will be no single point of failure. - A failure registers as an amber light on a server - Tech gets the notice. - Dell is called and they fix it.
[quote]If running your own hardware was bottom-line effective, there wouldn't be so much migration towards cloud solutions.[/quote]
I can't account for the power of good marketing, FUD and hype. I think it's largely due to people not thinking things through, and engineers that want a magick box, or an easy button.
Rackspace is trying to keep everyone focused on the hype of the cloud, to keep racking in your dough.
One "Cloud Server" with 16Gig of Ram and 4 Procs with rackspace would cost me $700+ .
I can get a third of a cabinet from CoreNap for less than $400 Month. I can fill that space with vastly more powerful hardware for about 5k. ( Shopping Smart )
Now lets do the math assuming a hardware life cycle of 5 years. 400 x 12 == 4,800 ( one year ) 4,800 * 5 == 24,000 ( Five years )
hardware: $5,000 52 weeks in a year times 5 years == 260 weeks.
Spread the cost of the hardware over 5 years. ( Cash outright or lease ) $5,000 / 260 weeks. ==.01923 per week for the hardware.
Not worth adding to the 24,000 you will spend over the next 5 years, compared to the 42,000 you will spend for a single inferior server instance at Rackspace.
And you're not eliminating engineers by going to the cloud. You still need admins.
Samba has been around literally for decades and has seen constant reliable use.
You're suggestion that the software is new and poorly designed is invalid.
There are good admins and bad admins. If software that has been successfully deployed for multitudes of years has been a problem then bad admins are far more likely to blame.
Now all Obama has to do is sign a treaty extends their laws here too. Wait... That's already happened too...
There has to be one hell of a fight in gov't circles to keep our freedom ( that's left ) or there's going to have to be one hell of a fight with other means.
There are a few Private DNS systems that live outside the 'official' DNS system that allow people to find what they want regardless of a domain being 'seized'. If they don't control the DNS system they can't remove widescale access to specific domain without actually getting to the physical server.
What I expect is going on is the FBI is going to kill access to these private DNS systems, or, they are engaging a global DNS logging system, or both.
Private DNS systems may be blocked for a short time until a way is engineered around them, or the FBI issues DMCA notices to companies for deploying their own DNS systems.
I wouldn't call that a good design. But maybe I am just too old school. back in the day we used to design for the lightest CPU load possible, not the heaviest.
As for reducing the collective intelligence of slashdot, most of the newcomers have done a good enough job of that on their own.
No wonder Cmd Taco quit.
- Dan. * Taking his marbles, and playing somewhere sane.
Lol. I call you a desktop weenie. The Enterprise space is totally pwned by Java. Just cause you don't have it in your start menu doesn't mean that Java (and C) doesn't run all the heavy lifting you can't see behind the Web.
Pwned ? get off your Dad's computer, and come back when your balls drop.
At work we are migrating clients away from a java based platform as fast as we can. The Oracle/Sun marketing front can infest all the blogs and news sites with it's marketing drivel till the cows come home, only senseless newbs out of college will sacrifice what may have been a budding career to it.
The heart to heart with Mom or Dad implies that children ever get to see their parents for 3 to 4 hours per night before going to bed. And even this may be occupied by homework, sports, dinner or doctors visits. Most parent's only know their children's names because they *gave* them the name in the first place. Much less what's going on in their lives to be able to connect for this 'heart to heart'. Raising children has devolved to dropping them off at the best state daycare-in-school-disguise they can manage to live close to.
If there is at least one parent not working and staying home to be with the kids after school chances are they won't be starved for attention in the first place.
Slashdot Mirror
If Engineered correctly;
- There will be no single point of failure.
- A failure registers as an amber light on a server
- Tech gets the notice.
- Dell is called and they fix it.
[quote]If running your own hardware was bottom-line effective, there wouldn't be so much migration towards cloud solutions.[/quote]
I can't account for the power of good marketing, FUD and hype. I think it's largely due to people not thinking things through, and engineers that want a magick box, or an easy button.
In this case doubling the price is not a small premium.
While it's every Engineer's dream to not have to mess with hardware, clouds don't make sense from a business perspective.
- Dan.
Provide a use case please.
I agree on both your points.
It's a good place to fire up something to experiment with, and a good place for new companies just starting out.
But there are large enterprises that have completely missed the memo regarding static collocation vs the cloud.
- Dan.
Because it's a waste of time.
Rackspace is trying to keep everyone focused on the hype of the cloud, to keep racking in your dough.
One "Cloud Server" with 16Gig of Ram and 4 Procs with rackspace would cost me $700+ .
I can get a third of a cabinet from CoreNap for less than $400 Month. I can fill that space with vastly more powerful hardware for about 5k. ( Shopping Smart )
Now lets do the math assuming a hardware life cycle of 5 years.
400 x 12 == 4,800 ( one year )
4,800 * 5 == 24,000 ( Five years )
hardware: $5,000
52 weeks in a year times 5 years == 260 weeks.
Spread the cost of the hardware over 5 years. ( Cash outright or lease ) .01923 per week for the hardware.
$5,000 / 260 weeks. ==
Not worth adding to the 24,000 you will spend over the next 5 years, compared to the 42,000 you will spend for a single inferior server instance at Rackspace.
And you're not eliminating engineers by going to the cloud. You still need admins.
- Dan.
Samba has been around literally for decades and has seen constant reliable use.
You're suggestion that the software is new and poorly designed is invalid.
There are good admins and bad admins. If software that has been successfully deployed for multitudes of years has been a problem then bad admins are far more likely to blame.
- Dan.
Poor administration is not the software / OS fault.
WAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
You cry like a New-Yorker.
Go run from Air Force One again. That was funny.
- Dan.
Why does everyone get all butt-hurt when New York's 'Victim Status' is challenged?
As storms go, it was weak. Barely hurricane force. Category 1.
Go to New Orleans and try bitching about it.
- Dan.
Mod UP.
"but I've put CentOS on it in a VM"
*Facepalm*
Place Windows in a VM on Centos. Otherwise your Linux uptime is a derivative of your windows Uptime. Which is typically crap.
- Dan.
It's Already Passed.
In the Philippines.
Who cares right? Remember ACTA?
Cybercrime Prevention Act
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/10/02/the-philippines-passes-the-cybercrime-prevention-act-that-makes-sopa-look-reasonable/
ACTA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
Now all Obama has to do is sign a treaty extends their laws here too. Wait... That's already happened too...
There has to be one hell of a fight in gov't circles to keep our freedom ( that's left ) or there's going to have to be one hell of a fight with other means.
- Dan.
Too Soon?
Eve is Real...
There are a few Private DNS systems that live outside the 'official' DNS system that allow people to find what they want regardless of a domain being 'seized'. If they don't control the DNS system they can't remove widescale access to specific domain without actually getting to the physical server.
What I expect is going on is the FBI is going to kill access to these private DNS systems, or, they are engaging a global DNS logging system, or both.
Private DNS systems may be blocked for a short time until a way is engineered around them, or the FBI issues DMCA notices to companies for deploying their own DNS systems.
Lol 24.
You made the first affirmation, burden of proof to educate is yours.
I have been programming since I was 15. Most likely before you were a stain in your mothers bedsheets when she was 11.
Better?
- Dan.
I wouldn't call that a good design. But maybe I am just too old school. back in the day we used to design for the lightest CPU load possible, not the heaviest.
As for reducing the collective intelligence of slashdot, most of the newcomers have done a good enough job of that on their own.
No wonder Cmd Taco quit.
- Dan.
* Taking his marbles, and playing somewhere sane.
Citations please.
> Yes, you can call me bitter now.
Lol. I call you a desktop weenie. The Enterprise space is totally pwned by Java. Just cause you don't have it in your start menu doesn't mean that Java (and C) doesn't run all the heavy lifting you can't see behind the Web.
Pwned ? get off your Dad's computer, and come back when your balls drop.
The only thing Java dominates is CPU load.
- Dan.
No, It's not. If it's in use still, it's because of vendor lock-in.
- Dan.
Ditto.
At work we are migrating clients away from a java based platform as fast as we can. The Oracle/Sun marketing front can infest all the blogs and news sites with it's marketing drivel till the cows come home, only senseless newbs out of college will sacrifice what may have been a budding career to it.
Yes, you can call me bitter now.
- Dan.
I have said it before, and I will say it again. Slashdot needs an astroturf rating.
- Dan.
The heart to heart with Mom or Dad implies that children ever get to see their parents for 3 to 4 hours per night before going to bed. And even this may be occupied by homework, sports, dinner or doctors visits. Most parent's only know their children's names because they *gave* them the name in the first place. Much less what's going on in their lives to be able to connect for this 'heart to heart'. Raising children has devolved to dropping them off at the best state daycare-in-school-disguise they can manage to live close to.
If there is at least one parent not working and staying home to be with the kids after school chances are they won't be starved for attention in the first place.
- Dan.