Will change mean that people can have a rabid hatred of Obama as people had of Bush and still be free?
Yes. As long as you keep it civil.
Why do I have to keep it civil many people I met that were against Bush would almost foam at the mouth. I agree civil is something we should be to all people all the time but why do you have to tell me?
USA is my world why would I look at it any different? I don't pay taxes , vote, live, work in other countries. Again we are talking about the American elections why would I concern myself with the other countries of the world?
Well thank goodness you gave me hope about my typing skills or lack there of. Golly! my heart is all a flutter. The magnitude of your comments give us all hope that change to my poor grammar and spelling will someday rise above that to someday reach out and touch the stars and fly with the wind.
Ah so change means name calling because I ask for clear information but you keep just linking information. And this has nothing to do with McCain I asked what does change really mean. I am only dealing with Obama and I am not doing a compare and contrast.
And yes I want a chronological time line of what Obama wants to do. Those are typically called plans, guides, steps, or work flows. Something that shows progress with goals and measurable results.
I held the same standard to Bush I wanted time lines, goal setting, measurable results and many times he did not deliver. Rare times he did.
Accepting what Obama says at face value is crazy if you are going to lead have a plan, share it, explain how to get from A to B. As a builder to build a house and he can tell you all day long how to do it but without a plan it will never be built.
Ok the problem is defined by him so we can for go that now line by line
"Talk" What is he going to talk about? How will he rally the world behind America? Sanctions? Deals? Arms reduction? Just says we have to talk.
"Israeli" How will they make a sustained push? Threats? Attacks? Money? Last time I looked people have been pushing those two to be at peace for a couple of thousand years
"Expand" Open more consulates but do we do that in countries we do not formally recognize? How about the ones that are openly hostile to America? How much will the cost in terms of real money since we will have to staff this sites and provide protection. What will the expanded foreign service mean?
"Fight" Cut poverty by half in which countries? Does this include Americans? How can we quantify half by 2015? 10,000/yr in a poor country is not a one to relationship to 10,000/yr in a prosperous country what are the guidelines?
"Strength" Rally which NATO countries? To do what? and where he wants to pull us out of Afghanistan and Iraq? Are we moving forces to other countries are the NATO commands going to have supervision over US troops? Who is going to streamline what decision-making process? Attacking? Aid? Retreating?
"Seek" What type of framework? Money? Will this include trade? and if so how will bring more Asian products into the American economy affect us? How will he promote stability? Military? Money? People?
Again all that is stated is ideas of what he thinks is wrong. Where is the plan to get from A to B? Increase military spending? Taxing? More trips to other countries to buy their products? All I ask it what is he going to do and you post links and even then you say your bored of pasting links. There is nothing of substance in any of the links you have provided just talk.
I will get up each day and work to make my workplace a better place to work.
I will work toward bringing happiness to others in my area and down the hall by pushing hard for this happiness.
I will spend time everyday giving my supervisors more flexibility with assignments.
Nothing of substance just words not how I will accomplish this nothing.
Funny all of his signs say "Hope" but even the quote you provided he just states what he sees. What is the plan? How can I have hope or help anyone when he only tells me what he thinks are bad things going on? How does he plan to achieve the goal for his view of planet in peril?
How does he plan to address his view of the "worst financial crisis"?
How does he plan to help the "mothers and fathers who lie awake"?
All he has ever stated is words and more words what is his plan? What is his plan? All I know for certain he will raise taxes across the board he stated that more than one and that is nothing anyone, no matter how hard you honestly try, can say to deny it. I know someone will post they deny it and be all smug and laugh to themselves and it really does not matter.
There is no sharing of ideas just people pointing fingers. And yes people will say the same thing to me and my point will be made again and again and again.
If you say I am to help then what are the plans and what if I don't agree with them did everyone here for Obama help Bush? Why should I agree with something I do not agree with?
I think that Obama has more than enough to do in trying to fix our financial markets, slow global warming, and fix our health care system. I doubt he'll have time for some of your personal nightmares.
But isn't that what Obama ran on giving ME hope?? Why is your fears more important than mine I thought we were all the same with Obama?
Many countries have peaceful government changes each X years and most countries have MUCH better individual freedom than the US where all the real power is held by money.
Having Obama will maybe not mean much that WILL change inside the USA, but it is a very welcome change of pace for every other nations.
And your post is not self-satisfied? The comment about every 4 years refers to our nothing having a government system that can have the ruling party voted out with a no confidence vote at any time.
Wow, do you seriously believe that?? Talk about US-centric view of the world. Have you forgotten Canada and most of Europe for a start? That is just the height of ignorance and/or arrogance to think the US is the only free country on this planet.
I am an American why should I care about what other countries think? I thought this was talking about the American election and my American views?
Will change mean that I am not called a racist if I disagree with Obama?
Will change mean that slavery is now something that can finally be put to bed 145 years after it ended?
Will change mean that people can have a rabid hatred of Obama as people had of Bush and still be free?
Will change mean that people with little money will have more money?
With change my conservative values will that make me a target of hate?
Will change mean the majority be sensitive to my beliefs and values?
Will change mean nothing has really changed but people are now happy Europe is not mad at us any more?
Will change mean that our troops will be not be forgotten.
Will change mean that government will not take over our 401k, healthcare, car payments, house payments, freedom?
Will change mean that Obama will campaign for change in 2012?
Change is all well and good but what does change mean. It can mean a lot of things to a lot of people but now the work has to begin words are not enough by any person any where. While people disagree with any election we still have the only country in the world that can transition peaceably from power to power every 4 years if need be. We still have a document that no other country in the world dares to implement because it gives the freedom to the people and not those that run the government.
We are free because we choose so do not let anyone of any party take any of that freedom in the name of change. Support the good and denounce the bad with out fear of retaliation or hate.
We are free because we are American's we are American's because we are free.
One thing people keep forgetting about is the government is of the people. We elect representatives to do the people's bidding. In theory I know but it happens a lot more than anyone really understands. It has been shown several time if people get up and go vote change does happen. The problem is people as a rule are no longer being responsible for their deeds, words or actions. Take this thread here people are already using tried old quotes, blaming other people and what not. No one is really stating what NEEDS to be done. A much smaller government, lower taxes, limits on power by the elected AND non-elected appointees. And there needs to be punishment IE the bailout should have never happened the banks needed to fail, if they were ever going to, and yes that means people loose there jobs, people loose their money yes bad things! Everyone must understand bad things happen, I don't want them to, but they must when bad ideas fail then they are not allowed to propagate into bad messes for everyone. Look at history banks have failed before, economies have come and gone it is all part of life. Failure weeds out the bad it has to. If we don't get rid of the bad all we are left with is very poor. Does this mean people might get booted from their homes yes! Does this mean people might loose their jobs yes! Does this include me? YES! I have lost jobs before due to companies going out of business but here sit at another job. I am the baseline if I can do it anyone can and if anyone says they can't leave them behind. People have to learn to stand up for themselves. Voting is always important not just this year but always. Be something not a nothing.
You know games have bugs, a lot of them, and people aways act surprised every time comes to light. Why is it then that people always buy something the day it his the selves then complain when it is broken, I know it shouldn't be broken, but more times that not there is an issue that needs to be addressed when you first load up the game and have to download a huge patch just to start playing the game.
I think you pretty much nailed this one everyone sees things a little differently. From my perspective I like a couple of languages that have a common syntax across them so it makes it easy for me to switch between them to accomplish what I need to do everyday. Plus the way the layout of the syntax seems more pleasing to my eye. Otherwise programming is basically the same logic you just use different words to accomplish it.
Not you have taken my statements completely out of context. And by just yelling STFU has no substance. I fully agree that the 9th circuit should have never reversed this what the border agent did by going into the folder was wrong period and if you READ my my post you will understand that. BUT the initial search was valid and he was selected at random no freedom was lost at that point. And my over all point is if you are not doing anything illegal why are you so worried about what is on the laptop. All of this saving to a SFTP or encryption I fully understand keeping the government from my personal data but I have nothing to hide from a 10,000 foot view look of my stuff for security. But once they cross that I want the government to have a reason to look period. My statements have nothing to do with all the garbage you are throwing at me and you have yet to provide a valid argument to my statement other than scream at me and all me names in hopes to scare me off. Nothing more just scare tactics and they do not work.
That makes no sense you should see how much freedom others in the world have compared to us. And yes we are losing our freedoms in nips and tucks and that must stop. But we still have more freedom that 99% of the world.
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Why should I change? Obama is the one promising change
Will change mean that people can have a rabid hatred of Obama as people had of Bush and still be free?
Yes. As long as you keep it civil.
Why do I have to keep it civil many people I met that were against Bush would almost foam at the mouth. I agree civil is something we should be to all people all the time but why do you have to tell me?
USA is my world why would I look at it any different? I don't pay taxes , vote, live, work in other countries. Again we are talking about the American elections why would I concern myself with the other countries of the world?
Well thank goodness you gave me hope about my typing skills or lack there of. Golly! my heart is all a flutter. The magnitude of your comments give us all hope that change to my poor grammar and spelling will someday rise above that to someday reach out and touch the stars and fly with the wind.
"To dream the impossible dream!"
My nipples explode with delight!
Ah so change means name calling because I ask for clear information but you keep just linking information. And this has nothing to do with McCain I asked what does change really mean. I am only dealing with Obama and I am not doing a compare and contrast.
And yes I want a chronological time line of what Obama wants to do. Those are typically called plans, guides, steps, or work flows. Something that shows progress with goals and measurable results.
I held the same standard to Bush I wanted time lines, goal setting, measurable results and many times he did not deliver. Rare times he did.
Accepting what Obama says at face value is crazy if you are going to lead have a plan, share it, explain how to get from A to B. As a builder to build a house and he can tell you all day long how to do it but without a plan it will never be built.
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Funny I make a Freudian slip in my last line and that is all you remark on.
Ok let's just take this one
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreign_policy/index.php#diplomacy
Ok the problem is defined by him so we can for go that now line by line
"Talk" What is he going to talk about? How will he rally the world behind America? Sanctions? Deals? Arms reduction? Just says we have to talk.
"Israeli" How will they make a sustained push? Threats? Attacks? Money? Last time I looked people have been pushing those two to be at peace for a couple of thousand years
"Expand" Open more consulates but do we do that in countries we do not formally recognize? How about the ones that are openly hostile to America? How much will the cost in terms of real money since we will have to staff this sites and provide protection. What will the expanded foreign service mean?
"Fight" Cut poverty by half in which countries? Does this include Americans? How can we quantify half by 2015? 10,000/yr in a poor country is not a one to relationship to 10,000/yr in a prosperous country what are the guidelines?
"Strength" Rally which NATO countries? To do what? and where he wants to pull us out of Afghanistan and Iraq? Are we moving forces to other countries are the NATO commands going to have supervision over US troops? Who is going to streamline what decision-making process? Attacking? Aid? Retreating? "Seek" What type of framework? Money? Will this include trade? and if so how will bring more Asian products into the American economy affect us? How will he promote stability? Military? Money? People?
Again all that is stated is ideas of what he thinks is wrong. Where is the plan to get from A to B? Increase military spending? Taxing? More trips to other countries to buy their products? All I ask it what is he going to do and you post links and even then you say your bored of pasting links. There is nothing of substance in any of the links you have provided just talk.
I will get up each day and work to make my workplace a better place to work.
I will work toward bringing happiness to others in my area and down the hall by pushing hard for this happiness.
I will spend time everyday giving my supervisors more flexibility with assignments.
Nothing of substance just words not how I will accomplish this nothing.
Funny all of his signs say "Hope" but even the quote you provided he just states what he sees. What is the plan? How can I have hope or help anyone when he only tells me what he thinks are bad things going on? How does he plan to achieve the goal for his view of planet in peril?
How does he plan to address his view of the "worst financial crisis"?
How does he plan to help the "mothers and fathers who lie awake"?
All he has ever stated is words and more words what is his plan? What is his plan? All I know for certain he will raise taxes across the board he stated that more than one and that is nothing anyone, no matter how hard you honestly try, can say to deny it. I know someone will post they deny it and be all smug and laugh to themselves and it really does not matter.
There is no sharing of ideas just people pointing fingers. And yes people will say the same thing to me and my point will be made again and again and again.
If you say I am to help then what are the plans and what if I don't agree with them did everyone here for Obama help Bush? Why should I agree with something I do not agree with?
I think that Obama has more than enough to do in trying to fix our financial markets, slow global warming, and fix our health care system. I doubt he'll have time for some of your personal nightmares.
But isn't that what Obama ran on giving ME hope?? Why is your fears more important than mine I thought we were all the same with Obama?
LOL I had a good laugh thanks
Such a load of self-satisfied crap.
Many countries have peaceful government changes each X years and most countries have MUCH better individual freedom than the US where all the real power is held by money.
Having Obama will maybe not mean much that WILL change inside the USA, but it is a very welcome change of pace for every other nations.
And your post is not self-satisfied? The comment about every 4 years refers to our nothing having a government system that can have the ruling party voted out with a no confidence vote at any time.
You need to actually read up on your President from a trustworthy news source. Anything other than Fox News.
And CNN, MSNBC, ABC et al is better??? I read several news sources but they do not sway my core beliefs and values.
Will your concern trolling stop when Obama takes office and your world doesn't end?
Never said my world would end I am just wondering what change will mean
Now go back to your 47 channels of American Gladiators America. Go back to sleep America. You are free because we tell you that you are free.
I would but there is a Sponge Bob Marathon on
Wow, do you seriously believe that?? Talk about US-centric view of the world. Have you forgotten Canada and most of Europe for a start? That is just the height of ignorance and/or arrogance to think the US is the only free country on this planet.
I am an American why should I care about what other countries think? I thought this was talking about the American election and my American views?
Will change mean that I am not called a racist if I disagree with Obama?
Will change mean that slavery is now something that can finally be put to bed 145 years after it ended?
Will change mean that people can have a rabid hatred of Obama as people had of Bush and still be free?
Will change mean that people with little money will have more money?
With change my conservative values will that make me a target of hate?
Will change mean the majority be sensitive to my beliefs and values?
Will change mean nothing has really changed but people are now happy Europe is not mad at us any more?
Will change mean that our troops will be not be forgotten.
Will change mean that government will not take over our 401k, healthcare, car payments, house payments, freedom?
Will change mean that Obama will campaign for change in 2012?
Change is all well and good but what does change mean. It can mean a lot of things to a lot of people but now the work has to begin words are not enough by any person any where. While people disagree with any election we still have the only country in the world that can transition peaceably from power to power every 4 years if need be. We still have a document that no other country in the world dares to implement because it gives the freedom to the people and not those that run the government.
We are free because we choose so do not let anyone of any party take any of that freedom in the name of change. Support the good and denounce the bad with out fear of retaliation or hate.
We are free because we are American's we are American's because we are free.
One thing people keep forgetting about is the government is of the people. We elect representatives to do the people's bidding. In theory I know but it happens a lot more than anyone really understands. It has been shown several time if people get up and go vote change does happen. The problem is people as a rule are no longer being responsible for their deeds, words or actions. Take this thread here people are already using tried old quotes, blaming other people and what not. No one is really stating what NEEDS to be done. A much smaller government, lower taxes, limits on power by the elected AND non-elected appointees. And there needs to be punishment IE the bailout should have never happened the banks needed to fail, if they were ever going to, and yes that means people loose there jobs, people loose their money yes bad things! Everyone must understand bad things happen, I don't want them to, but they must when bad ideas fail then they are not allowed to propagate into bad messes for everyone. Look at history banks have failed before, economies have come and gone it is all part of life. Failure weeds out the bad it has to. If we don't get rid of the bad all we are left with is very poor. Does this mean people might get booted from their homes yes! Does this mean people might loose their jobs yes! Does this include me? YES! I have lost jobs before due to companies going out of business but here sit at another job. I am the baseline if I can do it anyone can and if anyone says they can't leave them behind. People have to learn to stand up for themselves. Voting is always important not just this year but always. Be something not a nothing.
OMG we are running out of dirt quick someone call Al Gore!
You know games have bugs, a lot of them, and people aways act surprised every time comes to light. Why is it then that people always buy something the day it his the selves then complain when it is broken, I know it shouldn't be broken, but more times that not there is an issue that needs to be addressed when you first load up the game and have to download a huge patch just to start playing the game.
I think you pretty much nailed this one everyone sees things a little differently. From my perspective I like a couple of languages that have a common syntax across them so it makes it easy for me to switch between them to accomplish what I need to do everyday. Plus the way the layout of the syntax seems more pleasing to my eye. Otherwise programming is basically the same logic you just use different words to accomplish it.
I have to be mindful of when I am at work shouldn't this apply to everyone else?
Not you have taken my statements completely out of context. And by just yelling STFU has no substance. I fully agree that the 9th circuit should have never reversed this what the border agent did by going into the folder was wrong period and if you READ my my post you will understand that. BUT the initial search was valid and he was selected at random no freedom was lost at that point. And my over all point is if you are not doing anything illegal why are you so worried about what is on the laptop. All of this saving to a SFTP or encryption I fully understand keeping the government from my personal data but I have nothing to hide from a 10,000 foot view look of my stuff for security. But once they cross that I want the government to have a reason to look period. My statements have nothing to do with all the garbage you are throwing at me and you have yet to provide a valid argument to my statement other than scream at me and all me names in hopes to scare me off. Nothing more just scare tactics and they do not work.
Interesting.. try this .. not from the NyTimes mind you.
Link
That makes no sense you should see how much freedom others in the world have compared to us. And yes we are losing our freedoms in nips and tucks and that must stop. But we still have more freedom that 99% of the world.