Good point. You'd think that they would have all the drivers on there. I've noticed that there seem to be a lot more drivers in Windows Update for Windows 7...at I think it's just for Windows 7, I haven't noticed them in XP.
I'll admit, I haven't used an ATI card for sometime for the reasons I mentioned above, and last I heard (earlier this year), there were quite a few issues with ATI cards in Ubuntu.
Do the OSS ATI drivers work with things like Compiz?
Two possible side effects: severe allergic reaction, which I have heard is with people who have egg allergies, and Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which may be about 1-2 cases out of a million vaccinations, if it happens at all.
Vaccines ARE proven, as evidenced by the absence of a whole slew of terrible diseases that we don't get anymore. Don't be an asshat. The only reason that the flu vaccine isn't 100% effective is because it covers 3-4 viruses, but not the whole lot of flu viruses that are going around. If they did manage to do that, then it would be 100% effective. It's not a flaw with vaccination, it's simply incomplete vaccination.
"Two issues with that. First, "harm" is vague. Some people consider insults harmful."
I think that most people would agree that dying is harmful.
This is about medical workers, not Joe the Plumber. I see absolutely no problems with requiring medical workers to be vaccinated as a requirement of their employment. If they don't like it, they should seek another line of work.
This issue came up in the US not that long ago, and you can be quarantined/isolated if you have a disease that poses a significant threat to public health.
The saddest thing about your post is that you're serious. I'm fine with people doing what they want with their bodies, as long as it doesn't put someone else at risk. If you're working in a position that puts you in close contact with people who have compromised immune systems, you better damn well get vaccinated or get a different job. You see, they aren't being forced to get vaccinated, it's a job requirement. And they aren't being forced to work at that job.
"This I agree with. It *is* a legitimate issue. But your right to make demands ends absolutely when it comes to what another person does within their own body."
So it's not ok for us to tell medical workers to put vaccines in their bodies, but it is ok for medical workers to spread potentially deadly diseases to other people's bodies? A close proximity sneeze from someone with the flu (who may not even be symptomatic) infects almost as certainly as a vaccine, and could spell death for someone on chemo or someone with AIDS.
Yes, they're a big player on the internet, but it's entirely possible to get along without using any of their services. Their existence is not critical...not even close.
"If users have nothing to gain from these plugins, then there is no reason they should exist."
Since they DO exist, one would logically assume that there was a reason to make and release them. That said, there have been a few posts in this thread about people who have lost functionality from the plugins being disabled.
This isn't a root-kit, dumb ass. And Microsoft has been extremely straightforward and helpful in admitting that they messed up with the uninstall issue and coming up with a fix.
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Good point. You'd think that they would have all the drivers on there. I've noticed that there seem to be a lot more drivers in Windows Update for Windows 7...at I think it's just for Windows 7, I haven't noticed them in XP.
I'll admit, I haven't used an ATI card for sometime for the reasons I mentioned above, and last I heard (earlier this year), there were quite a few issues with ATI cards in Ubuntu.
Do the OSS ATI drivers work with things like Compiz?
See http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm#flu
Two possible side effects: severe allergic reaction, which I have heard is with people who have egg allergies, and Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which may be about 1-2 cases out of a million vaccinations, if it happens at all.
"There are plenty of studies"
And yet you cite three newspapers and Youtube...
Is that page a joke? Because the graphs appear to show a steep drop in cases and deaths right after the measles vaccine was introduced...
NEWSFLASH - The flue vaccine works the same as all the other vaccines!
Vaccines ARE proven, as evidenced by the absence of a whole slew of terrible diseases that we don't get anymore. Don't be an asshat. The only reason that the flu vaccine isn't 100% effective is because it covers 3-4 viruses, but not the whole lot of flu viruses that are going around. If they did manage to do that, then it would be 100% effective. It's not a flaw with vaccination, it's simply incomplete vaccination.
The difference is that people choose to go to malls. Hospitalized people with compromised immune systems have no choice about it.
"Two issues with that. First, "harm" is vague. Some people consider insults harmful."
I think that most people would agree that dying is harmful.
This is about medical workers, not Joe the Plumber. I see absolutely no problems with requiring medical workers to be vaccinated as a requirement of their employment. If they don't like it, they should seek another line of work.
This issue came up in the US not that long ago, and you can be quarantined/isolated if you have a disease that poses a significant threat to public health.
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/86251.pdf
The saddest thing about your post is that you're serious. I'm fine with people doing what they want with their bodies, as long as it doesn't put someone else at risk. If you're working in a position that puts you in close contact with people who have compromised immune systems, you better damn well get vaccinated or get a different job. You see, they aren't being forced to get vaccinated, it's a job requirement. And they aren't being forced to work at that job.
"This I agree with. It *is* a legitimate issue. But your right to make demands ends absolutely when it comes to what another person does within their own body."
So it's not ok for us to tell medical workers to put vaccines in their bodies, but it is ok for medical workers to spread potentially deadly diseases to other people's bodies? A close proximity sneeze from someone with the flu (who may not even be symptomatic) infects almost as certainly as a vaccine, and could spell death for someone on chemo or someone with AIDS.
The scary part isn't that it's killing everyone who gets it. The scary part is that it's killing a lot more people than the usual flu season. See:
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091016/child-h1n1-swine-flu-deaths-accelerate?src=RSS_PUBLIC
I suppose when someone figures out how to buy an OpenManufacturingPlant then it will happen.
It is interesting then that ATI gfx drivers have generally been a pain in the ass to use in Linux, while Nvidia's work well most of the time.
"It is entirely possible that Windows users download their drivers much more often than Linux users."
Since most Windows users buy their machines with OS and drivers already installed, it's probably not that many who even download any drivers at all.
how many Windows users get their Nvidia drivers through their OEM and Windows Update?
I'm going to bet that it evens out.
Yes, they're a big player on the internet, but it's entirely possible to get along without using any of their services. Their existence is not critical...not even close.
Phoning home? It's a plugin blacklist that Firefox downloads. It's not sending any of your data to Mozilla.
"If users have nothing to gain from these plugins, then there is no reason they should exist."
Since they DO exist, one would logically assume that there was a reason to make and release them. That said, there have been a few posts in this thread about people who have lost functionality from the plugins being disabled.
Unless you're claiming that open-source software is free of vulnerabilities, I don't see your argument here.
You don't have to install their plugin...there's a link on the page that says something like "Click here if download doesn't start".
Or you know, just run Windows update and uninstall the plug-in normally.
The Java plugin installs as part of Java. The .Net plugin installs as part of .Net 3.5....what's your point?
This isn't a root-kit, dumb ass. And Microsoft has been extremely straightforward and helpful in admitting that they messed up with the uninstall issue and coming up with a fix.
"Authority to govern comes from the consent of the governed"
Ah, I thought it came from strange women lying in ponds distributing swords.