The googlebots parse (tokenize and analize) HTML already, that's why they're able to understand that what's in a page title is important, and what's in an should be given more weight than what's in an.
And then they feed the HTML-less text to the full text engine, which is clearly much more complex than an SGML parser.
They've been tokenizing and storing that kind of data forever, it's just seating in their datacenters waiting for someone to pull it out to create that kind of stats.
Time? Effort? Dude, it's google we're talking about, once the script to collect the data is done the amount of data processed is irrelevant. The guys probably dumped a pair of scripts on the fucking google server, ran some queries and got the data back, there's no effort involved, it would be cool to get some stats of the work itself but I doubt they needed more than a day to pull it out.
Creating the SVG graphics is probably what actually took the most efforts...
I disagree. <br> is extremely useful when you want to allow your users to enter in certain HTML tags without allowing them to launch XSS attacks.
For that matter, <br> is useful when users enter in a combination of text and HTML. Putting a BR where the newline was preserves the formatting of the text as the user entered it (for example, see the HTML of this Slashdot post. I'm entering it as plain old text and I placed no BR tags in it). A tag like may be better for that, though.
The paragraph element p exists for a reason.
Do you realize how trivial it is to just add a <p> tag at the start of each line a user entered? (and it's as trivial to add the </p> tag, even though it's optional in HTML)
Demanding a line break at a particular location is perfectly cromulent syntactic markup.
There are only two cases I know of where using a <br> tag is more logical than wrapping the text in <p<: poetry and <address> tag.
I'm pretty sure that fits the "should almost never be used" thing, as most people don't write pages full of poetry and addresses.
I never said that <bré> must never be used, I said that it should almost never be e.g. should (very) rarely be used. There is a subtle yet important nuance here.
This is about the number of sites that use the tag, not the number of tags out in the wild, and <br> is used on more pages than <table>, there are as many pages with at least one <br> than pages with at least an <img> tag
That's freaking huge, for a tag that should almost never be used.
This will have consequences on projects like Wine, Samba or ReactOS because some legal mechanism will be in force so that you can't look at the Windows source and rewrite it
Need I remind you that the very goal of the original directive was interoperability?
Failed, a monopoly situation and the abuse of said monopoly by the monopoly holder is a failure of the so-called free market, that's why the govt has to step in (remember Ma Bell?)
The only way you could build a parallel between MS charges and a BWM prosecution would be:
Act 1: BMW creates a specific engine using their brand new BozoFuel as well as regular fuel. Only Total/Fina and BMW know how to manufacture BozoFuel
Act 2: BozoFuel being $0.5/gallon and the average BMW running 241530mi/ga, BMW gets 96.5% market share
Act 3: Total/Fina, unique manufacturer of BozoFuel with skyhigh financial results and stock prices, buys half the concurrence, the others get on the verge of bankrupcy
Act 4: Total/Fina has 90% of the world's fuel manufacturing abilities, and stops producing regular fuel. Only BozoFuel is available on the western and asian continents, only middle east has regular fuel left, africa tries to power engine with AIDS
At this point, both Total/Fina and BMW are de-facto monopolies (as the only persons who can make and use BozoFuel, which became the de facto standard fuel).
Act 5: BozoFuel and BMW cars prices raise by 25138%/week, no one can say anything because other cars can't run on account of not having any available fuel
Would it seem strange to you that, at this point, that some countries start telling Total/Fina and BMW to open up the engine and bozofuel manufacturation process so that others can actually make them?
Cause that's exactly what happened with MS, but for the fact that there was no BozoFuel and no partner in them gaining de facto monopoly on the desktop computer operating system market.
On the other hand, the goal of the original directive was interoperability, so I guess smart hackers could take a peek at the source to understand how something works and create a new (more or less fully interoperable) solution to the same problem without taking too many risk.
Remember that it was Republicans who freed the slaves, pushed the Civil Rights Act, and put more minorities in the Cabinet. As for the Democrats; well, we have Robert "KKK" Byrd and the blatant explotation of the black vote.
Remember that while they do use the same name, they are not the same people, don't have the same goals nor the same views on the world.
The Republican party was once standing at the left of the United States political scene. This is no longer the case, and there is no way in hell you can assimilate the current neo-con republican party with the humanitarian progressive republican party of the 19th century.
That's because government projects are (supposed to be) driven by other goals than positive monetary ROI within 3 years: reliability, durability (horizon of vision > 20 years), backward compatibility with existing structures/projects, forward compatibility with future structures/projects, national pride, quality of life of the citizens (at the town/state/nation level), common good, national independance,...
Theorically, the one and only goal of a government is not to make money but to improve the quality of life for the people it "governs" in their name.
Now, I do know that this is as much of an utopy as capitalism, communism or liberalism (e.g. that it Just Can't Work in the Real World for various reasons including but not limited to human stupidity, greed, and overall behaviour), but losing money is part of being a government (even though wasting money isn't) and you can't judge the behaviour of a government based on the behaviour of an individual or a corporation
At one point, everyone "needing" the product will use/go to the last few locations still allowing it, and these locations will reap so much money and wealth from these products that they just won't have any reason to ban them too.
Strangely enough, they're much more advanced on the way since transports (cars, buses and planes) are more or less the only things still hooked on oil in Iceland.
What he says is probably true, even though I reckon you wouldn't even have to do that.
Sweden is a very friendly country, and swedish isn't even a de jure official language, only de facto and most swedes are very good english speakers. So you could probably manage to live there without knowing any swedish at first, picking it up as you go.
who cares, more crappy xml format is probably... good... or something...
We have broadband anyway, and deep integration of the XML wankfest in C#, and soon-to-be even more XML retardation embedded deep into java, that's Fuck Win you see
Actually I'd suggest you to just try Opera Mini out (it's free after all), the lowest font size on my phone (nokia 6230i) is surprisingly crisp and clear, and puts a LOT of data on the screen. It's actually genuinely nice and easy to read.
The bigger font is, of course, much more readable, but it breaks lines far more often and I find it actually lowers the readability of the pages for me.
I guess it's using the standard network abstraction layer from your phone's J2ME, so it'll download at what the phone gives him e.g. I'm pretty sure it'll download at EDGE speed when available.
If you're a big fan of Opera, like we are (and it's already standard at some of the companies we regularly deal with too), you can actually cast an implied vote by setting the default to "Opera" in the settings:
"Tools" menu
"Preferences" item
"Advanced" tab
"Network" option (on the left-hand side)
"Browser identification" pull-down menu
That, or you know the software, hit F12 for the quickprefs and select "Identify as Opera".
This is completely irrelevant here though, since that's "Maxi" opera and the subject here is mini.
I'm testing it right now and it doesn't seem to have any feed integration.
Then again, the Advanced version i'm using is only 100kb, and it's stunningly fast, good looking and readable (even with the fonts set to minimum size) so I really doubt they could include an RSS reader to boot.
Just use bloglines or that kind of stuff and put your RSS on the web
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The googlebots parse (tokenize and analize) HTML already, that's why they're able to understand that what's in a page title is important, and what's in an should be given more weight than what's in an .
And then they feed the HTML-less text to the full text engine, which is clearly much more complex than an SGML parser.
They've been tokenizing and storing that kind of data forever, it's just seating in their datacenters waiting for someone to pull it out to create that kind of stats.
Time? Effort? Dude, it's google we're talking about, once the script to collect the data is done the amount of data processed is irrelevant. The guys probably dumped a pair of scripts on the fucking google server, ran some queries and got the data back, there's no effort involved, it would be cool to get some stats of the work itself but I doubt they needed more than a day to pull it out.
Creating the SVG graphics is probably what actually took the most efforts...
Duh no, paragraphs on slashdot have a bottom margin.
Example is my post, composed only of paragraphs and a blockquote at the top, and it has quite a bunch of space before the sig.
Gecko fascism indeed, I mean what a bunch of bastard, using completely valid SVG files, oooh the nerve of them blokes...
The paragraph element p exists for a reason.
Do you realize how trivial it is to just add a <p> tag at the start of each line a user entered? (and it's as trivial to add the </p> tag, even though it's optional in HTML)
There are only two cases I know of where using a <br> tag is more logical than wrapping the text in <p<: poetry and <address> tag.
I'm pretty sure that fits the "should almost never be used" thing, as most people don't write pages full of poetry and addresses.
I never said that <bré> must never be used, I said that it should almost never be e.g. should (very) rarely be used. There is a subtle yet important nuance here.
Small stat? are you joking?
This is about the number of sites that use the tag, not the number of tags out in the wild, and <br> is used on more pages than <table>, there are as many pages with at least one <br> than pages with at least an <img> tag
That's freaking huge, for a tag that should almost never be used.
Need I remind you that the very goal of the original directive was interoperability?
Since when do BSD code and OpenDarwin "stay private"?
Failed, a monopoly situation and the abuse of said monopoly by the monopoly holder is a failure of the so-called free market, that's why the govt has to step in (remember Ma Bell?)
The only way you could build a parallel between MS charges and a BWM prosecution would be:
At this point, both Total/Fina and BMW are de-facto monopolies (as the only persons who can make and use BozoFuel, which became the de facto standard fuel).
Would it seem strange to you that, at this point, that some countries start telling Total/Fina and BMW to open up the engine and bozofuel manufacturation process so that others can actually make them?
Cause that's exactly what happened with MS, but for the fact that there was no BozoFuel and no partner in them gaining de facto monopoly on the desktop computer operating system market.
Who cares, it'll leak within a week of the first dev getting his copy of the source anyway
That's more than likely.
On the other hand, the goal of the original directive was interoperability, so I guess smart hackers could take a peek at the source to understand how something works and create a new (more or less fully interoperable) solution to the same problem without taking too many risk.
That's why Japanese Culture is Superior
Remember that while they do use the same name, they are not the same people, don't have the same goals nor the same views on the world.
The Republican party was once standing at the left of the United States political scene. This is no longer the case, and there is no way in hell you can assimilate the current neo-con republican party with the humanitarian progressive republican party of the 19th century.
That's because government projects are (supposed to be) driven by other goals than positive monetary ROI within 3 years: reliability, durability (horizon of vision > 20 years), backward compatibility with existing structures/projects, forward compatibility with future structures/projects, national pride, quality of life of the citizens (at the town/state/nation level), common good, national independance, ...
Theorically, the one and only goal of a government is not to make money but to improve the quality of life for the people it "governs" in their name.
Now, I do know that this is as much of an utopy as capitalism, communism or liberalism (e.g. that it Just Can't Work in the Real World for various reasons including but not limited to human stupidity, greed, and overall behaviour), but losing money is part of being a government (even though wasting money isn't) and you can't judge the behaviour of a government based on the behaviour of an individual or a corporation
At one point, everyone "needing" the product will use/go to the last few locations still allowing it, and these locations will reap so much money and wealth from these products that they just won't have any reason to ban them too.
They plan to phase oil out by 2050.
Strangely enough, they're much more advanced on the way since transports (cars, buses and planes) are more or less the only things still hooked on oil in Iceland.
What he says is probably true, even though I reckon you wouldn't even have to do that.
Sweden is a very friendly country, and swedish isn't even a de jure official language, only de facto and most swedes are very good english speakers. So you could probably manage to live there without knowing any swedish at first, picking it up as you go.
For more informations, head to the Swedish Migration Board and Sweden Abroad, it'd be a much better source than /.
who cares, more crappy xml format is probably... good... or something...
We have broadband anyway, and deep integration of the XML wankfest in C#, and soon-to-be even more XML retardation embedded deep into java, that's Fuck Win you see
Yeah because they probably sold their shares *tax free* or something...
Actually I'd suggest you to just try Opera Mini out (it's free after all), the lowest font size on my phone (nokia 6230i) is surprisingly crisp and clear, and puts a LOT of data on the screen. It's actually genuinely nice and easy to read.
The bigger font is, of course, much more readable, but it breaks lines far more often and I find it actually lowers the readability of the pages for me.
I guess it's using the standard network abstraction layer from your phone's J2ME, so it'll download at what the phone gives him e.g. I'm pretty sure it'll download at EDGE speed when available.
That, or you know the software, hit F12 for the quickprefs and select "Identify as Opera".
This is completely irrelevant here though, since that's "Maxi" opera and the subject here is mini.
I'm testing it right now and it doesn't seem to have any feed integration.
Then again, the Advanced version i'm using is only 100kb, and it's stunningly fast, good looking and readable (even with the fonts set to minimum size) so I really doubt they could include an RSS reader to boot.
Just use bloglines or that kind of stuff and put your RSS on the web