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Good Riddance To Booth Babes

Colin Campbell has an editorial at Next Generation in which he applauds the decision to fine risque outfits worn by the traditional 'booth babes'. From the article: "Exhibitors at E3 employ a whole range of human beings to attract attention to their booths and excitement to their live events. The ones who attract the largest crowds are either celebrities (fair enough), well-loved industry-creatives (quite right) or so-called 'booth-babes', often behaving in ways that at least mimic the lowest sort of strip joint. People do not dress this way in normal life, not even in Los Angeles. There are some companies that seem more susceptible to this kind of technique than others. It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense."

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  1. Conventions should move to private property by dada21 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've been dealing with convention centers for a long time -- I used to perform IT work for some of the largest convention fixture companies (they build the displays you see). I was always amazed at the mess of union guidelines and government mandates that came with setting up at convention centers. I knew it would only be time before they started jumping on morality, too. Government loves to try to control morality.

    I don't have a problem with scantily clad women at conventions and at shows (car shows). They're part of the reason some people go to these events, and then they stay to actually look at the products being sold or promoted. It is a marketing tool.

    If women have great bodies, why shouldn't they make money with them? I could care less if they're clothed, naked, whoring themselves out -- it is their body to use as they please as long as it is voluntary trade with another consenting adult.

    It blows my mind that this Colin Campbell guy would prefer to see regulation over clothing. Clothing is expression. Expression can not be controlled per the 1st amendment. Of course, our governments can also control expression on private property, which is a bigger atrocity than the regulation on public property.

    If a private convention center wants to regulate clothing, they can. A government-run convention center (subsidized by taxpayers usually) should stick with the law that controls their powers. The 1st amendment tells government they have no right to control expression, it is a freedom every human has, and no one should worry about a law abridging this freedom.

    For the rest of his article, I'll give you a secret about E3: the real industry insiders don't care anymore. E3 is a consumer show now, no matter how much they try to say it isn't. The industry wants schmucks to go there, gawk at the hot scantily-clad babes, and crow about the next big game. E3 years ago was a blast when it was real insider scoops and communications with industry heavyweights. Now it is just another festival to get drunk, get laid, and then go home and tell everyone about the great new gadgets and games that you saw. The girlies are just a great way to get the geeks to come and take part in the festivities of consumer marketing.

    (Disclosure: I am currently working on a convention center so my opinion might be skewed by the lack of steady payments by the customer)

    1. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except these rules have been in place for years in the convention center, they just never enforced them.

    2. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is there no social position you don't color through the lens of your pet theory on "anacro-capitalism"? That organizers and many participants find explicit sexual behavior at a public trade convention distracting and unrelated to business should be enough. The issue of a woman's right to strip and prostitute herself is actually "OFFTOPIC" and not "INSIGHTFUL". Please go away.

    3. Re:Conventions should move to private property by AEton · · Score: 1

      For the rest of his article, I'll give you a secret about E3: the real industry insiders don't care anymore. E3 is a consumer show now, no matter how much they try to say it isn't. The industry wants schmucks to go there, gawk at the hot scantily-clad babes, and crow about the next big game. E3 years ago was a blast when it was real insider scoops and communications with industry heavyweights. Now it is just another festival to get drunk, get laid, and then go home and tell everyone about the great new gadgets and games that you saw. The girlies are just a great way to get the geeks to come and take part in the festivities of consumer marketing.

      So it's like Defcon with girls?

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    4. Re:Conventions should move to private property by LordPhantom · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait... get laid? I've not been to E3, but if the normal crowd who discusses it is any measure of the people there.... shudder. Also, it's not like there are hot men there to attract geek girls (assuming that that WOULD do such a thing), so enlighten me on exactly why you think E3 is the same nirvanna of pleasure persuits that say a real estate convention is?

      On second thought, I'd rather you didn't. shudder again

    5. Re:Conventions should move to private property by kevin.fowler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure that wearing the outfits that the companies tell them/pay them to wear is "free expression".

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    6. Re:Conventions should move to private property by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      If women have great bodies, why shouldn't they make money with them? I could care less if they're clothed, naked, whoring themselves out -- it is their body to use as they please as long as it is voluntary trade with another consenting adult.

      That's not what this is about though.

      This isn't about whether people can do all the things you describe, but where they do those things.

      I agree that people should have the right to do what they like with their bodies, wear what they like, etc... But I also think that schools should have dress codes, and I don't think it's unreasonable that resturaunts, clubs, even certain public streets, have some base rules on what is acceptable to wear while you're there. Most importantly, though, I don't think those views are contradictory. You see, just as you have the right to wear whatever you like, I have the right to not be around people who are dressed like you so long as there are places for both.

      An outright ban would be wrong, and as you say, unconstitutional, but we're not talking about a massive governemnt crack down. We're talking about an isolated locality and a particular event. If a company wants to have a booth babe, they can put her in their private suite where they invite their intended audience for private showings (that sounds so bad... I don't mean it that way!) as they do in every other industry already anyway.

    7. Re:Conventions should move to private property by bcattwoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I looked at several different news sources and I didn't see anywhere where it said that the convention center was making the rules, but rather the organizers of the convention, the Enterntainment Software Association, made the new rules. Look like the free market spoke afterall.

    8. Re:Conventions should move to private property by mi · · Score: 1
      That organizers and many participants find explicit sexual behavior at a public trade convention distracting and unrelated to business should be enough.
      But it is not illegal, is it? Well, now it is...
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    9. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Thangodin · · Score: 1

      I can't figure out if this is political correctness from the left (exploitation of women, oh no!) or political correctness from the right (naked women, oh no!) Then again, I'm not sure there's really much of a difference. If you can shame somebody for something which is pretty much natural and inevitable--desire for sex--you've pretty much got them by the balls. I'm getting sick of all of it. The Super Bowl crowd get completely spun out over the glimpse of a tit. Meanwhile the opening of the Athens games included a portrayal of the ancient Greek gods, including a bare-breasted Hecate holding aloft a live snake in each hand. Nice to see that there are still adults in some parts of the world...

      My problem is that I would actually be there for the games (yeah, I know, serious geek.) How much is the upscale stripper going to know about the technical details? But E3 is a party. Automobile adds have included babes for decades. Game distributors think that games are for male adolescents, so they're targetting that market. Granted, they should expand their markets, but I am getting so damn sick of the damn kiddie police. Maybe if the authorities grow up a bit, so will the marketers...

    10. Re:Conventions should move to private property by flooey · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If a private convention center wants to regulate clothing, they can. A government-run convention center (subsidized by taxpayers usually) should stick with the law that controls their powers.
      It's not the convention center that's regulating the clothing, it's the (private) company that puts together E3. They're saying that if you want to be a part of their convention, you need to follow a set of rules, of which this is one, so it seems entirely appropriate that they have that power. The fact that they may be using a publicly-owned shouldn't infringe on their ability to choose the rules by which exhibitors participate.
    11. Re:Conventions should move to private property by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 1

      Congrats! Yours is the dumbest comment in this whole discussion.

    12. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      ...Expression can not be controlled per the 1st amendment.

      Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      Sorry, but the first amendment only covers those things that it explicitly states: Religion, speech, press, peaceful assembly, and communication to the government. Expression is not solely defined by speech, and is thus not covered by the First Amendment.. The U.S. is not Germany, which does have a freedom of expression law.

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    13. Re:Conventions should move to private property by norminator · · Score: 1

      From my understanding, according to this article: http://news.com.com/Sexy+booth+babes+banned+at+gam e+show/2100-1043_3-6030517.html?tag=nefd.top it's not the convention center or the government that's doing the banning & fining, but the E3Expo organization. They have a right to do that, it's their show. They are trying to create an atmosphere that doesn't have that type of distraction. The organization already has plenty of rules that exhibitors have to abide by, it's their right as the organizers of the show to make the rules.

    14. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, you just trumped him with your meta discussion bullshit, but I may have you beat so don't worry, bitch.

    15. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Lots of differences, sights, smells...

      The gaming crowd is a lot larger segment of the population than those that would go to Defcon. Most of them shower regularly ;)

    16. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      it's not like there are hot men there to attract geek girls (assuming that that WOULD do such a thing)

      There are high ranking men in a multi billion dollar industry.
      I don't know much about women, but I know that to them, rich men = hot men.

      Of course, the boothbabes are also after these same persons, therefore I'll assume that this coup against the hot-babe order of things is orchestrated by geek girls who want to get the rich men without the competition of babes in skimpy outfits : )

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    17. Re:Conventions should move to private property by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      I've been dealing with convention centers for a long time -- I used to perform IT work for some of the largest convention fixture companies (they build the displays you see). I was always amazed at the mess of union guidelines and government mandates that came with setting up at convention centers. I knew it would only be time before they started jumping on morality, too. Government loves to try to control morality.
      If you actually read TFA, you'll find that it's not the goverment doing this - it's E3 itself. But it's actually work to read TFA and to think about the meaning of the article - like too many Americans today you prefer bias over facts. It's simple, it's soundbite, and it doesn't tax the brain.

      And people wonder why our country is going to hell in a handbasket.

    18. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I got a f*****' problem with that.

      If the shows were being held in Salt Lake City, we have nothing to talk about, because we are aware of the community standards.

      These shows are held in LAS VEGAS. I'm pretty sure we can all agree on what passes for "community standards" in Las Vegas. Booth Babes should be blowing geeks as they wait in line to see product demonstrations, and they should be naked while doing it, and when the patrons are satisfied, the Booth Babes should turn their attentions toward each other.

    19. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Castar · · Score: 1

      For the rest of his article, I'll give you a secret about E3: the real industry insiders don't care anymore. E3 is a consumer show now, no matter how much they try to say it isn't. The industry wants schmucks to go there, gawk at the hot scantily-clad babes, and crow about the next big game. E3 years ago was a blast when it was real insider scoops and communications with industry heavyweights.

      E3 has always been the "consumer" show. It's always been about marketing your hot new property to the press, to the retailers, and indirectly to Joe Consumer. It's always been about marketing... Business deals get closed there, but it's still about strutting your stuff as a company in order to help close those deals. It's never been anything else. The "inside info" you think you're getting is intentionally released by the companies who have something to sell there.

      The real place where the "industry heavyweights" meet and talk is GDC, and that's not for the press or consumers (although it's tending a little more in that direction lately...)

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    20. Re:Conventions should move to private property by klui · · Score: 1

      That's because the politicians want the booth babes to themselves.

    21. Re:Conventions should move to private property by ZB+Mowrey · · Score: 1
      Sorry, but the first amendment only covers those things that it explicitly states: Religion, speech, press, peaceful assembly, and communication to the government. Expression is not solely defined by speech, and is thus not covered by the First Amendment.. The U.S. is not Germany, which does have a freedom of expression law.

      I love when people assume that whatever's in the First 8 amendments is all the Constitution has to say on the issue of rights. See:

      Amendment IX

      The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

      Amendment X

      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

      And yeah, the issue at hand might be whether the First Amendment deals with expression (according to SCOTUS, it does), but the argument seemed to include a tangent as to whether a right to expression exists. It does.

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    22. Re:Conventions should move to private property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how about scantily-clad men instead?

  2. I fully applaud by archeopterix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those vile practices reinforced the social trend to objectify females. I solemnly applaud the decision to ban them. Now take me to the pictures! What? No pics?!?!?!?

    1. Re:I fully applaud by davez0r · · Score: 1

      had the same damn problem two days ago, brother

      http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174808&c id=14541032

    2. Re:I fully applaud by publicworker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      from TFA: Try tapping 'E3' into Google Image Search. Out of the first eight images, six are of models. That's. Just. Great.

      That was plenty of pics for me ;)

    3. Re:I fully applaud by hritcu · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can look here and here if you are curious.

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  3. Boo! by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Games are entertainment. Cute girls are nice to look at. Is that so wrong?

    If you want things more family-friendly, why not just apply the old anime-con cosplay standard of "30% coverage minimum, inlcuding all the obvious places", instead of applying an ambiguous rule that outfits can not be "too risque"?

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    1. Re:Boo! by to_kallon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you want things more family-friendly, why not just apply the old anime-con cosplay standard of "30% coverage minimum, inlcuding all the obvious places", instead of applying an ambiguous rule that outfits can not be "too risque"?

      it's simple politics: if you don't specify what you mean, when you have to justify actions later you can use your earlier ambiguity.

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    2. Re:Boo! by AlterTick · · Score: 4, Informative
      If you want things more family-friendly

      Thing is, E3 isn't really supposed to be a "family event", is it? I mean, didn't they move it from weekend to weekday scheduling like four years ago because they thought it was getting to be too much like a "leisure time" attraction? And haven't they always required that all attendees actually be verified company employees, i.e. NO KIDS? I think the organizers want to turn it into some dignified, somber stuffed shirt convention. Not likely. GIVE US OUR BOOF BABES!

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    3. Re:Boo! by MikeFM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As someone that lived in Las Vegas for a while and went to many conventions I'll say that this change is enough to make me much less likely to go. That was half the fun of conventions. Without the girls you're left with a lot of tired sweaty people who look like they aren't enjoying themselves. Not a nice enviroment. Seriously conventions are just not very fun to go to. I'm constantly unimpressed with the 'new technology' being shown off so the shows really need something.

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    4. Re:Boo! by mikiN · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should go to an Asian convention next time, so you can have a look at babes and interesting new tech.

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    5. Re:Boo! by jchenx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously, if booth babes are the only thing you look forward to in a convention, then I'd argue you don't belong there. Let someone else from your group or team go instead. The "new technology" may not interest you, but I'm sure there's someone who has a vested interest in the product, who doesn't need a gaggle of booth babes just to be attracted to the conference.

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    6. Re:Boo! by Golias · · Score: 1

      Booth babes don't just attract attention from lonely software engineers, they also capture the attention of the media, not only on-line but also in print and even on the occasional cable show. Nobody covers E3 without a photo or two of booth babes.

      Have cute girls in front of your display == get better chance of your display being seen in the E3 coverage.

      E3 is all about promotion, after all.

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    7. Re:Boo! by jchenx · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about the benefits of booth babes to a company's display. A lot of the times when the press covers booth babes, it's just a collection of pictures in front of lots of displays, and not much talk about the actual product itself.

      If you're a mediocre product that can't get media coverage, I guess you should use anything you can to get attention. But again I'd argue, maybe you're better off making your product better or more marketable. Or maybe E3 is just not the right convention for you (save time and money and just don't go).

      I've been to E3 twice now, and while I will admit to taking pictures of the girls from time to time, I can genuinely say I was more interested in the the products. I didn't run around the convention center JUST to score pictures. I thought it was insane that some folks would stand in line for hours just to be in a picture with two scantily clad women. (If that's what you want, haven't you heard of strip clubs? Vegas is full of those) I'd rather stand in line to see the latest demo of the next hit game or an upcoming console.

      That said, I do think that banning booth babes is a bit silly. What's next ... banning the free stuff they give away? They're all cheap tactics to grabbing attention. If the organizers of E3 want less of this glitz, they're better off doing a better job screening the attendants.

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    8. Re:Boo! by Golias · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about the benefits of booth babes to a company's display. A lot of the times when the press covers booth babes, it's just a collection of pictures in front of lots of displays, and not much talk about the actual product itself.

      90% of marketing is branding. That's why Nike pays Tiger Woods a fortune to wear their dorky hats. Remining people (and in particular, potential investors) that you exist and are doing well enough to blow money on advertising, endorsements, and trade show booths will ultimately help your bottom line, or so the thinking goes.

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    9. Re:Boo! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      The problem being that damn near everything at these shows is a mediocre product. Wow so you made your frob purple this year instead of blue. Oh great now I'm excited. Getting rid of all these posers would be my first choice. Since that isn't going to happen at least we can let them avoid boring me to tears by having an interesting display with some booth babes included. I'd vote for a special section for the 1% of booths that actually have something that isn't mediocre but that'd just be to much work and the people deciding would probably be suits with no idea what is really new and exciting.

      I didn't bother going to CES this year but last year I went to pretty much every booth and of those maybe half a dozen actually had something worth looking at. The rest was just a lot of walking in tightly packed quarters and having a bunch of lame sales people that didn't know their own products trying to give you their pitch. Last time they had Comdex it was a little more interesting than CES but not by much. Really disappointing shows if you're a major techie that really is looking for something innovative. I'd like to see better stuff coming out than the hobby projects I put together in my spare time five years ago.

      C'mon people - innovate! If you can't then at least throw in some booth babes.

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    10. Re:Boo! by jchenx · · Score: 1

      I'll have to agree that there's a lot of crap at these conventions. Anyone who's been to E3 knows about Kentia Hall. It's filled with smaller companies peddling all sorts of random junk. Some of what's featured may be neat, but it's lost in a sea of useless accessories, magazine pushers, generic/bland games from no-name developers, etc. These are the companies that really need "booth babes" the most, since Kentia Hall isn't very popular. Yet they're also the least likely to be able to afford hiring them.

      In the meantime, you've got big-name developers spending money on all these women for games that are ALREADY popular, both with the media and gamers. I guess it's just a pissing contest at that point ... which company can lay claim to the flashiest/sexiest display!

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    11. Re:Boo! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      To me it makes sense to have booth babes at gaming conventions especially when they wear costumes related to the game. A Hollywood movie release would be pretty boring if it wasn't for the beautiful people around. There usually aren't real actors for games so it makes sense to dress out some people to look like the characters and such and IMO adds an element of fun and excitement. It might be a bit goofy to throw women in that have nothing to do with your product but I don't see how it really hurts anything either. Conventions, in my experience anyway, are for adults and not children so they can have nude people playing tag and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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    12. Re:Boo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, you'll be glad to hear they have these things called "strip clubs". Dancing women without all the boring video-game stuff!

  4. Not that new of a decision by F_Scentura · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The rules have always been in place, they only recently decided to start "enforcing" them.

    1. Re:Not that new of a decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG how do I get off this crazy train. E3 and booth babes is like rum and coke.
      Its not even a open to the public show, its mostly private for media and people in the industry. (or has that changed too?)

      freakn politicians, yeah the problem with our society is booth babes at a E3 show.

      damn think of all those hot girls that wont be able to get a gig next year, lost revenue for them. nice. way to contribute to the unemployment numbers, doh.

    2. Re:Not that new of a decision by F_Scentura · · Score: 1

      "OMG how do I get off this crazy train. E3 and booth babes is like rum and coke.
      Its not even a open to the public show, its mostly private for media and people in the industry. (or has that changed too?)"

      It's wink-nudge "private", they'll let in gamestop cashiers and retail servicepeople IIRC.

  5. Microsoft can dance! by millwall · · Score: 1
    It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense

    Developers, developers, developers.... ;)

    1. Re:Microsoft can dance! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      For the manufacturer of the console on which DoA plays, it's more like "Boobies, boobies, boobies!"

  6. I'm sorry... by killmenow · · Score: 1

    Did you just say GOOD riddance to booth babes?

    That ain't right.

    1. Re:I'm sorry... by Krach42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did you just say GOOD riddance to booth babes?

      That ain't right.


      I noticed that weird wording also.... I can only imagine that this is because this is slashdot. I mean, only slashdot could be UPSET about a mostly naked woman getting between them and a game...

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    2. Re:I'm sorry... by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 1

      The way I read it, the title is meant to convey the viewpoint found in the linked article (i.e., Colin Campbell's), not necessarily Zonk's or Slashdot's viewpoint.

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    3. Re:I'm sorry... by oblivionboy · · Score: 1

      Actually this is a good point. I've never really understood why geek guys get so bunched up in a knot about issues like these: booth babes, volouptous women in video games, and so on. Every other guy I've talked to that comes back from E3 is either neutral about them (like "Eh, whatever, more girls"), or rather enjoyed them ("Check out these pics of the booth babes", etc). Plus its not open to the public (it is just an industry show), and so there won't be like familes with kids running around everywhere.

      But geek guys, if we are to believe what they post online, seem to be the opposite. I have two theories:

      1) They're insecure about themselves and so a beautiful woman standing in front of them makes them feel uncomfortable. If you're an unattractive, overweight guy with bad interpersonal skills, its hard not to have that feeling inside that this is exactly who you won't be dating, and that can be a hard swallow. This runs parallel with my other theory about why American media seems to want to put hot sexy, yet strong and agressive women on TV all the time (honestly, has anyone ever actually met any girl like Laura Croft in real life?), which I'll save for another discussion (these kinds of women are relatively uncommon on European media for example, or Latin American, etc).

      2) They're trying to get in with other geek girls doing the old "Look at me I'm a sensitive guy too. You'll like me". Of course its a dishonest approach and an ingratiating one, but also a common tactic.

      But people will go, and party and drink and have meetings and do all the stuff they do just the same. And I'm sure we'll see the booth babes come back in time. As another poster pointed out, they'll still hire attractive women and put them behind the booths.

    4. Re:I'm sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, only slashdot could be UPSET about a mostly naked woman getting between them and a game...


      The woman will still be naked when I finish playing, my friends will only be online for a limited amount of time. She can wait to get the good-good.

  7. Worst. Link. Ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't bother clicking the link to TFA, there aren't any pictures of booth babes. :(

    1. Re:Worst. Link. Ever. by baadger · · Score: 1

      Google has plenty. Example

  8. It's difficult to imagine, say, Sony... by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 4, Funny

    yeah, Sony would just have guys to rape you.

    What? Too far?

    1. Re:It's difficult to imagine, say, Sony... by Null537 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, wearing and I $sys$'d your mom last night shirt while they do it.

    2. Re:It's difficult to imagine, say, Sony... by Jtheletter · · Score: 1
      yeah, Sony would just have guys to rape you.
      What? Too far?

      Not too far, just too soon. That version of Sony DRM will be coming out with Blue Ray. ;)

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    3. Re:It's difficult to imagine, say, Sony... by Castar · · Score: 1

      Obviously this is a joke, but Sony sends actual employees down to man the E3 booths. So the person explaining the game might be a tester, or in marketing, or even a programmer. It's good because it means they can send lots of employees to the show, they don't have to vet contractors, and they just pay their employees their normal salary.

      Nintendo also uses employees, but I'm not sure about MS or EA.

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  9. Oh well by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not like I was getting into the event anyways.

    This just means more booth babes for other events.

    I see this as a good thing.

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  10. More important is the press day... by Godeke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering that in reality E3 is supposed to be an industry event (I have attended the seminars wearing my game programming hat) and yet recently it has become a giant circus similar to Comdex right before the collapse, I think this is a good move. The press day in particular will be helpful (more so that the clothing requirements): the poor people in the booths are besieged by loser fan boys while the real interviewers can be recognized by the desperate looks of someone under time pressure they wait for a bunch of store clerks to stop hassling their interview target. Or they just get pushy, which I don't blame them for.

    Reducing the booth babe exposure (literally) won't prevent people from hiring pretty young women and placing them in the booths. I don't think that practice will ever end (check any other convention and see who is most prominently displayed in each booth: the best looking women of the company or some "spokeswoman" who they hired because the women at the company refused to be so exploited). It will hopefully reduce the circus like atmosphere and restore the event to something that industry actually interacts at.

    (On the flip side of the coin, the private parties are even more outlandish than the show floor. Make of that what you will.)

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    1. Re:More important is the press day... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      (On the flip side of the coin, the private parties are even more outlandish than the show floor. Make of that what you will.)
      Yes I predict an upsurge in booth-midgets on the convention hall floor and dwarf tossing during the private parties.
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  11. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if it more a case of sour grapes? There are plenty of bitchy reviews and rants about conventions and how they should do this and that but usually they've been written by somebody who can't manage to get a pass.

  12. Standards of decency by metamatic · · Score: 1
    People do not dress this way in normal life, not even in Los Angeles.

    They do in Las Vegas. Just FYI.

    (No, I'm not being paid a retainer by the Vegas tourist board. And no, I'm not talking about people paid to dress that way in casinos--I'm talking about the girls dressed in skimpy near-transparent outfits you see heading from club to club.)

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    1. Re:Standards of decency by boristdog · · Score: 1

      Which is just one of the many reasons why Las Vegas is the greatest city in the world.

    2. Re:Standards of decency by plover · · Score: 1
      I'm talking about the girls dressed in skimpy near-transparent outfits you see heading from club to club.

      Umm... those are their "working clothes." A uniform of sorts.

      Let's just say it's not the casinos paying them to dress that way.

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    3. Re:Standards of decency by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Also in the Soho neighborhood of Manhattan. Or Miami, which is (in)famous for it. Or how about Victoria's Secret commercials?

      It' very simple to me. You don't like the booth babes? Don't go to the conference. You don't want your kids to see the booth babes? Don't let them go to the conference.

      (sigh)

      Just more unwelcome intrusion into my personal life.

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    4. Re:Standards of decency by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      "Also in the Soho neighborhood of Manhattan"

      Yeah, maybe if you're Carrie Bradshaw. Most New Yorkers in the real world, happily, have better taste than that.

    5. Re:Standards of decency by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Stand on the corner of Broadway and Prince on a Friday afternoon in the summer. 'Carrie Bradshaw' is tame and well-covered in comparison.

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    6. Re:Standards of decency by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Having done IT work in Las Vegas for several years, I can tell you that the bulk of the ladies are on vacation and not wearing a 'uniform' as you so delicately put it.

      Las Vegas does not look kindly on the working girls within city limits, and the laws are strictly enforced.

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  13. political correctness gone bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but thats ok, I'm sure this makes somebody happy.

  14. Uh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one enjoy the booth babes, thank you very much.

  15. I think they should be regulated... by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Funny
    ... skimpy costumes worn by booth chix0rz should only be permitted if they're replicas of those worn by characters in the game, movie or anime in question.

    I've nothing against it, as long as it's geekily appropriate :)

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  16. well this will come as quite a shock to you by Matt+Ownby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, dada21,

    This will come as a shock to you, but I agree with Colin Campbell's take on the booth babes. I do think that they are silly.

    My problem with booth babes is that while hiding behind 'free expression', these companies are trying to push their moral standards upon me trying to tell me what I should be looking at while going to a game show. I don't associate games with scantily clad women at all and resent these companies trying to merge the two. I say, get rid of the booth babes and make a product that can stand on its own feet. If people want to see scantily clad women, they can go to places that specialize in that.

    1. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by dada21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, I agree with you that I don't care much for booth babes. I don't go to conventions so that I can get a sneak peak of something along with 100,000 other people. The market already provides for guys like us -- it is called alpha testing, private screening and buyer tours.

      When it comes to the industries that I am in, I expect my sales people to give me a preview of items before the masses get to see them. I don't go to industry conventions, and I buy first from the sales people who give me dibs on seeing a new product. Girlies in bikinis do nothing for me (if you want nudity, just go to European beaches).

      Yet my problem with Campbell is his desire to enforce morality by LAW. If a private convention center said "we don't allow bikinis in our center" I have no problem with it. I have a problem with giving someone the right to use force against another. Voluntary cooperation is fine, force by mandate of the law is not.

    2. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a private function so they should be able to do what they want. They are catering to preferences of the majority. I would bet you are in the minority when you say you don't want to see scantily clad women. If they alienate a large part of their customer base and enough people stop going and purchasing their products then they will change.
      Sounds to me like your the one trying to push moral standards. If scantily clad women bother you then don't go.

    3. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      these companies are trying to push their moral standards upon me trying to tell me what I should be looking at

      And how is banning them no imposing your moral standards on people?
      Just because you don'y think it's fitting, doesn't mean to say that everyone else agrees with that.

    4. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, so you're OK with pushing YOUR moral standards on others then?

      Hypocrite.

      Many people do consider such things "part of the event."

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    5. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by jovetoo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Then express your opinion in a suitable manner. Don't buy their products.

      Forbidding something has never made it go away. If the marketing guys think near-naked women makes things sell, then they will find a way to use near-naked women. Video, pictures, sexy voices, whatever,... you can't forbid everything. If necessary they'll put a booth babe in the game and have a "game-character" show up. Then what?

      However, if they notice that too many people find their ways undignified and take their shopping and attention elsewhere, the booth babes will magically disappear.

    6. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well said

    7. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "My problem with booth babes is that while hiding behind 'free expression', these companies are trying to push their moral standards upon me trying to tell me what I should be looking at while going to a game show."

      Thanks for that - I needed a good laugh this morning. By that definition, anything anyone does in a public space is "pushing their moral standards" on everyone else in the area. Settle down, already! If you think you're going to turn into a pillar of salt for looking at a booth babe, just don't look!

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    8. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by rholliday · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My problem with booth babes is that while hiding behind 'free expression', these companies are trying to push their moral standards upon me trying to tell me what I should be looking at while going to a game show.

      Oddly enough, that sounds like exactly the opposite of what's happening. "Moral" standards are being forced upon the companies who make up this game show.

      I don't associate games with scantily clad women at all and resent these companies trying to merge the two.

      I don't associate cars with scantily clad women. I don't associate football with scantily clad women. I don't associate beer with scantily clad women. It's advertising. Most companies do associate the male demographic with scantily clad women.

      I say, get rid of the booth babes and make a product that can stand on its own feet.

      I can agree with half of that.

      If people want to see scantily clad women, they can go to places that specialize in that.

      Yes, if all you wanted was to see scantily clad women, you could go to a strip club or some such establishment. What's next? If you want beer, don't go to a game, go to a bar? I don't want to sound like I'm making a slippery slope argument, but saying that because some people don't think two items have a strong and appropriate bond they should not be used jointly is kind of ridiculous.

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    9. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

      It's called freedom of association. He has no obligation to associate with people he doesn't want to. And if you claim that he has to because it's a public space, then why can E3 keep out anyone at all? This isn't about morality; it's about improving the image of the convention, and trying to focus on what it is really about.

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    10. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by jcr · · Score: 1

      This will come as a shock to you, but I agree with Colin Campbell's take on the booth babes. I do think that they are silly.

      Silly or not, prohibiting them is ill-advised.

      -jcr

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    11. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they are trying to push their moral standard on you?

      what in the hell are you talkingabout.

      they are trying to use hot women to grab your attention for 6 seconds to check out their products.

      i dont know about you, but I like most of the target audience of those games simply like hot women in skimpy outfits. maybe you dont, tough luck cause you are in the extreme minority.

      who would have ever though that the largest demographic, aka 18-28 year old males would enjoy that stuff.

    12. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If a private convention center said 'we don't allow bikinis in our center' I have no problem with it."

      From skimming the article, that is exactly what E3 is doing. They are saying "we don't allow scantily-clad models in our show" and then enforcing it. You are presumably upset about the fines, but if they don't give some sort of penalty or enforcement, then nobody will bother about the rule.

      It is funny, however, because probably the companies that really want to have booth babes will just pay the fines, so it is really accomplishing nothing. They might as well just charge the companies extra to have booth babes.

    13. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You and your christian conservative buddies are (agressively) pushing your moral agenda: you don't want other people to look at things you disapprove of so you try to get them banned. I don't mind you disapproving of things in private, I do mind you imposing your morality onto me and other less narrow minded people. You don't have to go to e3, nobody's forcing you. If you go there, you know what to expect. E3 boothbabes are a hugely popular attraction of the event (for obvious reasons). Trust me, most guys there don't mind them at all (including most of those who say they do take offense).

      I'd be much more understanding if you were critical of minors playing with ultra violent games at such conventions. Boothbabes no (no nipple in sight, just the odd cameltoe) , ultra realistic headshots (highly detailed gore) yes. The same people taking offense at a nipple on tv buy their 10 year old kid highly violent games. IMHO conservative America is full of shit.

    14. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by iocat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a private show, run by an industry association that can form its own rules. Given that the industry association is trying to improve the image for games, banning booth babes is entirely within its rights. If you don't like it, don't exhibit, or don't attend. So what's your problem with it?

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    15. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      No, if a woman is found in violation she has to leave and can't come back until her clothes fulfill the standards. Of course it's not going to be "hand me the fine and we'll forget about all this", continuing even after a fine was handed out will most likely get a more severe reaction.

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    16. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And so you're calling a man a hypocrite for expressing his opinion that it's wrong to force a particular view on someone?

      Hypocrite. You're doing the same thing.

      Tool.

    17. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

      I remember like 1998 with Mortal Kombat booth having booth babes. I found it interesting the first time I saw it. But now I'm thinking this sounds like "Moral Kombat" which it is.

    18. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      By that definition, anything anyone does in a public space is "pushing their moral standards" on everyone else in the area.

      E3 is not a public venue.

      If the organizers of E3 want to clean up the image of the event, they can impose whatever restrictions they want. I applaud them for ruling out the least-common-denominator approach that advertising has resorted to.

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    19. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Traiklin · · Score: 1

      If they alienate a large part of their customer base and enough people stop going and purchasing their products then they will change.

      so thaty would mean an end to shitty games that rely souly on sex appeal to sell?

      Then hell yes, get rid of the scantily clad women for good so these games can stop being made.

    20. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Very well said.

      I personally don't mind the 'booth babes', and think that people who don't like them should either turn their head or not go. They ARE wearing clothes, after all, and while people would definitely stare, they'd not be breaking indecency laws (at least near me, your milage may vary) if they were in a public place. I simply look at them as a pleasant distraction.

      Not purchasing the product is certainly one way to go, but I don't think it packs much punch. As a distributor, and based on some booth babes I don't stock said items(s), my customers will simply purchase them elsewhere.

      I wonder what it is about the 'booth babes' that is getting folks all riled up? If I go into an office building and they have artwork on the wall, I don't protest that the non sterile nature of the office environment disturbs me. Would these same people request that the local mall have a specific dress-length requirement? Would these same people boycott a football game due to the cheerleaders?

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    21. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by node+3 · · Score: 1

      I have a problem with giving someone the right to use force against another. Voluntary cooperation is fine, force by mandate of the law is not.

      Will you quit being so simple-minded that you overlook the impossibility of your beliefs?

      Ayn Rand, with whom your beliefs mesh quite well, if not outright descended from, believed that there could be no conflict between two rational men. That is a necessary axiom for you to be able to maintain your belief. It's also so fundamentally wrong that it's embarrassing that someone could believe it so strongly.

      Another required, but flawed, axiom is that of private property. How do you propose to divvy up property? There's no fully rational, moral, and objective way to do it. *ALL* land is taken and kept by force, and someone far back in the chain of *ALL* property deeds initiated that force.

      Those two false axioms are your achilles heel. Have the intellectual honesty to confront them and not merely wave them off in a sort of fundamentalist "blank-out"--in an Orwellian act of double-think.

      You *CAN'T* have a society empty of the right of one person to force their will on another. It's absolutely impossible so long as the realms of existence of two or more people overlap and contradict.

      Be honest. Think.

      If you have a house, and I buy all the land around it, and build a 200-story skyscraper around it, can you force me to tear it down? Can you force me to let you walk through my skyscraper to leave your small lot? Can you force me to let people come to you to deliver food and water?

      Conversely, what have I forced on you? Your way of thinking believes that since I voluntarily did whatever I did on my own land, and it does not physically happen on your land, that I've not forced anything on you. But I have. I've essentially forced you into a box.

      But I've not initiated force against you, by your measure.

      Now, let's scale back the extremes. You have a house in a small neighborhood. I build a skyscraper right next door. Now traffic and utilities to your house are devastated by the extremely gigantic needs of my skyscraper. But it's all voluntary, isn't it? My skyscraper makes the local, privately held, utility companies many orders of magnitude more money than your little house does, so they cut service to your house to meet my needs. Completely voluntary.

      Or the other direction. You have a respectable home in a respectable neighborhood. Someone moves in next door and opens a meth lab. By what right do you have to stop them? As the property value in your neighborhood drops, as the safety of your neighborhood drops, as the crime-rate increases, what right do you have to prevent the voluntary actions of your neighbors?

      Your beliefs directly contradict reality, yet you wish to enforce them on me? You want me to live a fraud of an existence?

      Think. Be honest. Accept the dictates of reality. When you contradict reality, someone always loses.

      Your beliefs:
      "I have a problem with giving someone the right to use force against another. Voluntary cooperation is fine, force by mandate of the law is not."
      Completely contradict reality.

      Be honest and think.

    22. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody is making you look. No body. Now if you cannot control yourself, then perhaps you shouldn't be trying to push your "moral" standards on others. Hmm.

    23. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Forbidding something has never made it go away.

      That is obviously false. E3 is banning the "booth babe" from their show, and they will go away as long as E3 enforces that ban.

      Your whole post conflates the two issues. E3 is not banning "sexuality" as a whole. It's not banning them from games. It's not banning pictures and videos of scantily-clad women. It's banning the "booth babe" from their show, and it's a ban that is likely to succeed.

      If such bans were impossible, Go Daddy wouldn't be having such a hard time getting their Super Bowl ads approved.

      Or your example:
      If necessary they'll put a booth babe in the game and have a "game-character" show up. Then what?

      The E3 organizers can decide whether the game character is a thinly veiled booth babe, or a legitimate part of the exhibition. They can kick the character out if they so decide. In other words: they can enforce their ban.

      Personally, I wouldn't ban the booth babes. I think the level of prudishness in America is utter nonsense, but that doesn't mean I'm going to lie to make my case. When you do make your case on a lie, one merely has to expose your lie in order to "win" the argument much of the time.

    24. Re:well this will come as quite a shock to you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your still purchasing the shitty games then apparently they havent alienated you enough yet.

  17. No Sleep in Tokyo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We'll always have the Tokyo Gameshow sweet heart

  18. Difficult to imagince? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense."

    Really? I just imagined it with no difficulty.

  19. My $2 says the next game heroine will by jurgenaut · · Score: 1

    be wearing a shiny latex suit from the neck and down which doesn't show any skin at all. Got to please the E3 visitors, right?

  20. Hear, hear, good riddance to booth babes by Tedium+Unleased · · Score: 1

    Now would someone kindly post some links to pictures of "booth babes" so those who don't frequent conventions know what you are talking about? Thanks!

  21. Bah. It's part of society. by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 1

    It's a private function, so they can of course, but sexuality has become such a common advertising practice (sick) that it seems unusual that this has been done. What's next, the Dallas cheerleaders having to wear sweatpants and full shirts to football games?

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  22. Additional bans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (AP) In a move designed to attract more men o its annual event, E3 organizers have declared a ban on:

    - Great haircuts
    - Alcoholic beverages sold on site
    - Turtlenecks
    - PDAs and cell phones, as they can be used to steal company secrets
    - Glasses, as they pose a fire hazard when combined with the light from a HD-DVD unit

    Event organizers claim these measures will not only improve attendance, but usher E3 into an era of moppy-haired, sober, tie-and-contact-lens wearing yuppies.

  23. The answer is clear... by lpangelrob · · Score: 1
    Farewell booth babes...

    ...hello entertainment and gaming costumes instead!*

    *Stormtrooper outfits not permitted on account of "been there done that".

    1. Re:The answer is clear... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      That mustache just screams porno!

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  24. What! No Pics!? by Blahbooboo3 · · Score: 1

    I went to the article expecting to see some example booth babe pics, and damn it, there are none! :( I want to see some booth babe pics in this article! :)

  25. Nooooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, Colin Cambell is an idiot. The man is obviously gay and hates anyone who is not like him. Ironic, but sad.

  26. The photos are here by kill-1 · · Score: 5, Informative
    For everyone complaining about the lack of pics, you find them here.

    3840 entries... That's what I call comprehensive media coverage.

    1. Re:The photos are here by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      That's what I call comprehensive media coverage.

      No. Adding a "hot or not"-style rating system and a "top 100" link would be comprehensive. The current site is just a way to trick young Slashdotters into viewing banner and Google ads on 400 consecutive pages.

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    2. Re:The photos are here by kill-1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and on page 400 they might actually click a banner ;)

  27. oh come on.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a win-win situation, isn't it? All those who can afford it/are lucky enough/know a guy who knows a guy get the important folks in their booth, and the sad bastards who wish they could afford/were lucky/knew someone who knew someone provide some eyecandy for all the horny gamers. In the interest of womens liberation, maybe someone should have the chippendales in their boot or something.. allthough that could swing both ways. Actually, that would be rather risky if you want to attract any male geeks/gamers..

  28. Tomb Raider by JavaTHut · · Score: 1

    How, exactly, does this work for the booth trying to sell Tomb Raider?

  29. Good thing. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1
    these folks aren't in Japan. If they think the booth babes at this convention are bad you should see what the babes wear at the Tokyo Auto Salon or the Tokyo Motor Show and most certainly the Queens of Rally Japan.

    The censors in this country would assplode if they had to deal with those women.

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    1. Re:Good thing. . . by masklinn · · Score: 1

      That's why Japanese Culture is Superior

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    2. Re:Good thing. . . by csirac · · Score: 1

      The censors in this country would assplode if they had to deal with those women.

      Did you visit those sites you linked? I was expecting something obscene, or at least bikini swimwear level exposure or something.

      The people in all these photos (except 2 or 3), however, are fully clothed... I don't get it?

    3. Re:Good thing. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the Rally Japan photos didn't show much due to the weather. As a rule the Rally Queens wear hot pants, sports bras and boots. Exactly what the original article was talking about.

      As far as the auot show ones, the previous years booth babes had skimpier outfits (on the whole) but I couldn't find a link for them. The usual rule for the auto show is short skirt, form fitting, low-cut top and either boots or heels.

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    4. Re:Good thing. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a rule the Rally Queens wear hot pants, sports bras and boots.

      big deal. when i want to see some of that, i can just head on down to The Castro. no need to go to japan.

  30. Oh well by thaerin · · Score: 1

    It's not like it's that big of a loss, you can still find women who are just as scantily clad, if not more-so, in the games that the booth babes were often there to promote in the first place. On the plus side, instead of a deluge of sites offering their daily booth babe shots, maybe we can actually get a picture or two of some actual products.

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  31. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no idea what you are talking about. please upload several high-res pictures to illustrate.

  32. booth babes by peteyp666 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Where are the pics of the booth babes?

  33. Why do they do it? by squoozer · · Score: 1

    A while ago I went to my first trade event as a potential buyer and for the most part the show was professional and well run. The stands were tidy and the people running them helpful and polite. There is, however, one stand that has really stuck in my mind and that was the one with the "booth babe". Maybe I'm naive but I didn't expect it at all as this was a professional event. My first response was shock my first thought was "I wouldn't deal with them if you paid me". After talking to the other suppliers I wandered over to this stand simply because I felt I might as well do the lot. I was expecting their offerings to be poor and guess what I wasn't disapointed - even their sales guy was a prat. I wonder how much that event has cost them in terms of lost sales?

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    1. Re:Why do they do it? by dingirfecho · · Score: 1

      Yes, how evil of them. To feature gorgeous women on their stands...they should be advertising the last Grand Theft Auto, that allows you to exploit and rape women instead! That would be professional!

  34. companies, not people by limber · · Score: 1

    "People do not dress this way in normal life, not even in Los Angeles. There are some companies that seem more susceptible to this kind of technique than others."

    This could also have read, "there are some PEOPLE that seem more susceptible to this kind of technique"...

    Me being one of those people. Ahem.

  35. Just Get Around It by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sure the more creative types will find a way around the booth babe restrictions. There are plenty of ways to be sexy without showing a lot of skin or behaving in obviously lewd manners. But if E3 is hoping to somehow clean up the image of the games industry by "cleaning" up the trade show, forget it! As long as violent games like the GTA series and others grab the spotlight, what happens at the trade show really doesn't matter. And it certainly doesn't matter how people are dressed. I mean really, if the adult film industry held high class swanky industry events where everyone was impeccably dressed and behaved with the highest manners, would that gain adult films any more respect than they get now? I doubt it. Window dressing is nice, but ultimately it's the product that matters the most.

    1. Re:Just Get Around It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there may be other ways, but showing lots of skin and acting lewdly are still the best ways...

    2. Re:Just Get Around It by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      If I were making GTA, I'd simply put MORE of them in, and use a projector to display a 15 foot image. I mean, they're not complaining about the games, they're complaining about the people. So exploit the game.

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  36. how can I make an informed opinion?!! by Thud457 · · Score: 0

    This article is worthless without pictures.

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    1. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by d3ac0n · · Score: 3, Informative

      WARNING! Above link is NOT WORK SAFE!

      I really wish people would think to add that before posting links. It doesn't affect me, I'm the admin. What am I gonna do, write myself up? But others may not be so lucky. Please be considerate when posting links, mark them as NWS or not!

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    2. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be safe for work if you had not disabled "safe search" for your Google settings.

    3. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait a minute -- you clicked on a link promising relevant pictures for an article about inappropriately-attired women acting in sexually provocative ways, and were surprised to find results that were Not Safe for Work? What on earth did you expect to see when you clicked that link?

      I mean, I agree as a rule with the concept of labelling NSFW links, but this seems like a fairly slender thread on which to hang your response.

    4. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by jackbarnett · · Score: 1

      Yea no crap. That's the first article on slashdot I tried to "read" just cause I thought there was going to be pictures of what isn't going to be allowed. But it's all text, wtf is that about. That'll text me for trying to read the article. Back to emotional ranting about censor that may or not be related to the article.

    5. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by Victor+Antolini · · Score: 0

      Not everyone has a job

    6. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, here in European countries that would be considered work-safe.

    7. Re:how can I make an informed opinion?!! by angelo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where do you work? The Vatican? In Utah, I hear those pictures are considered violence. Wait I got that backwards. Maybe.

  37. Sorry but... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ...there are very few reasons most guys do ANYTHING at all except to "get chicks". It's the truth as mush as it might be unpleasant for people to accept. The whole concept of the "booth babe" isn't only to sell the product but to also attract males to the industry as a whole. If you're a guy, put some thought into it. Why did you work hard at a particular interest? I mean at the core... You did it because at some very core point you really wanted to attract female attention. This is why I got into music and then later computers. I won't lie and say I had some noble interest in music and the arts or technology. When I was a five year old boy, I enjoyed playing music and was given music lessons. But when I was fifteen, I REALLy got interested because I was hoping I could be a new wave star and get a girlfriend through that. Then when I moved on to post-college life and saw that a career in music was going to be difficult and possibly fruitless, I took my innate interest in electronics and computers and lucked into an admin job. But what was at the core? I had a girlfriend who I wanted to eventually have as my wife and I knew that if I had a stable job with a secure income, I'd get what I wanted. And in the end, I did. Everything I've ever done (learning to cook really well, photography, composing my own music, home repair) has all gone back to one core thing: sex with women. So I think this article isn't being genuine about reality. The only reason men do anything is to get sex. Period. Or I could be trolling... ;P Or maybe not. You decide.

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    1. Re:Sorry but... by Phisbut · · Score: 1
      Why did you work hard at a particular interest? I mean at the core... You did it because at some very core point you really wanted to attract female attention. This is why I got into music and then later computers.

      You mean you got into computers in order to attract women?!? What the hell were you thinking? One needs to get away from computers to get women.

      Most of those booth babes don't care one bit about the geeky gamer that takes a picture with them. They really don't. And geeky gamers know that (at least I hope so).

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  38. (Strongbad Voice) by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come back booth bunny....

    Come back booth bunny's sister!

  39. Slight correction by IPFreely · · Score: 1
    Government loves to try to control morality.

    Almost. People love to try to control morality. They try to use government as the tool of their control.
    Don't lay all your problems on the "government". That just disguises the problem and confuses the solution.

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  40. Everybody uses booth babes by Jeff85 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "There are some companies that seem more susceptible to this kind of technique than others. It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense."

    It would appear at least Microsoft is no stranger to booth babes. A quick glance at e3girls.com easily reveals one of many pages of Microsoft using so-called "booth babes" to promote products.
    http://www.e3girls.com/display.cfm?startrow=1909&p agenum=213&type=full&query=full

    What? I was only visiting that site for uh... proof to refute the summary's claim... yeah...

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  41. GUComics take on the issue by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1
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  42. personally I'd find it more attractive if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    booth-babes'often behaving in ways that at least mimic the lowest sort of strip joint.

    Personally I'd find it more stimulating if they were wearing business suits and were "behaving in ways that at least mimic the lowest sort of strip joint." Kudos for the change!

  43. Do the editors ever proof? by Peldor · · Score: 1
    'booth-babes', often behaving in ways that at least mimic the lowest sort of strip joint.

    I mean right there, a clear typo. I don't know how someone could hit the L O and W keys when the word is best.

    1. Re:Do the editors ever proof? by kalpol · · Score: 1

      Yeah I an see how that happened, the keys are like right next to each other.

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  44. What about the other new regulations? by wedgewu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've had about 20 people link me about the new booth babe regulations, but no one seems to be talking about the other changes that have happened to E3 this year. To me, it doesn't seem like this is some arbitrary regulation that they just happened to start, but rather just a part of an overall restructuring of the event. For example, one of the other rules that I know which has changed is that retail folks can no longer get in just by being your regular Joe working at a game store. They are only distributing a certain number of passes for those involved in retail companies, and the upper management in said companies gets to choose whom they would like to attend. This will hopefully limit the number of gawkers and people who have a very loose connection to the industry, and keep the place less crowded. There are probably other changed rules, how come we never hear about them? Oh, because... sex sells. ;-) Or the lack of it, in this case.

  45. normal life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm confused. looking at the images, i would have to say that the amount of flesh showing is in line with what i see in LA. ok, not in the office, but on the street. the women in the pictures are certainly better than the average woman on the street. but, the complaint in the article is not that the women are good looking but rather that they are dressed inappropriately.

  46. not like microsoft would.. by myspys · · Score: 1
  47. Microsoft booth babes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense.

    It's really not that difficult. You just need to open your eyes the next time you are at the Tokyo Game Show to see some.

  48. Re:Bah. It's part of society. by un.sined · · Score: 1

    You mean like the Seagals do? Hell, the last time I saw them, they were wearing coats too... Coulda been because it was cold and raining though...

  49. Booth Babes don't work by ka9dgx · · Score: 1
    The purpose of a tradeshow exhibit is to communicate a message about your company and your products. Using booth babes and attracting a pool of excess testosterone could concievably help deliver that message, but in reality all it does is squander on of the best sales opprotunities available.

    Companies that repeatedly use this tactic eventually get weeded out by Adam Smith's invisible hand.

    --Mike--

  50. The games themselves by phorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given the turn in many of the games I've seen lately to produce "larger" more realistic (visually if not dimenensionally) boobies, I'd say that booth babes are rather representative in ways of the games being advertised.

    For that very reason, FFX-2 sits uncompleted on my shelves to this day...

  51. Balance the booth babes with booth hunks by Morgaine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's nothing inherently unethical about booth babes. It's their chosen profession and they're being paid for their looks and their "marketting skills", ie. bringing the customers to the stand. It takes a lot of effort to stay looking that way, and courage to do it.

    Where is might be said to be on shakey ground is if both sexes aren't fairly represented, because then the do-gooders start talking about "objectifying women". Bring on the booth hunks, too ... I'm sure it won't be just the girls who check out their assets.

    Post up directional signs for "Booth Babes here" and "Booth Hunks there" and increase the merriment and general fun by clearly laughing at ourselves for doing it.

    Vive la diference!

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    1. Re:Balance the booth babes with booth hunks by iocat · · Score: 1

      E3 is full of buff dudes in loin clothes. It's just that no one looks at them, because they're dudes, and thus, not attractive to the bulk of the E3 audience.

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  52. The Greeks Had a Word for It ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Colin Campbell has hit the nail on the head. Computer and video games are known for only appealing to the intellectual elite and morally pure. The range of products is staggering, ranging from shooting something to err, shooting everything, killing someone, and sometimes even driving. "Booth babes" must play no part in this industry.

    I also agree that the role of women in the industry is complex. In real life women daub their faces with make-up, wear high heels to alter their height and posture, select clothes to accentuate different parts of their body, ask surgeons to carry out significant cosmetic procedures under general anaesthetic. - and despite what you might like to believe this is a choice made by an adult with free will, and reflects a "beauty" industry supported and guided by, erm, _women_. But obviously that's real life, and asking a professional model to do something in the same vein, for money, is totally off the wall and disgusting ...

    If Colin is bothered by professional _female_ (which I think is the actual issue for him, together with the rather pathetic cliched traits of a man self-consciously trying to show himself as a pseudo feminist because he thinks women will admire him) models he should not spend so much time looking at them and obsessing.

    I can think of areas where the use of sex appeal is _totally_ inappropriate - for example TV newreaders who are chosen for physical attractiveness; because that's very important when you're reporting the latest disaster or brutal murder, isn't it ? Now that really is _disgusting_ .

  53. Who did... by Tom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...put a stick up that guy's ass? I've locked at the article, I've locked a a few pages of booth babes pictures - and I wonder if "risque outfit" has the same definition in american dictionaries as in mine.

    All of these girls are fully and appropriately dressed. Aside from the fact that they have logos all over and some of them are wearing obvious custumes, the only reason any of them would be looked at even twice if they were to, say, go shopping in the center of my city tomorrow was because it doesn't fit to the damn cold.

    I've seen much more revealing outfits at pretty much every party and not few during normal summer shopping.

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    1. Re:Who did... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      I guess he's never been to the beach before. He's probably a tad sexually repressed, too.

  54. Oh, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense."

    Look at the last post on this blog: http://techbabeasia.blogspot.com/2001_10_01_techba beasia_archive.html

    Sure, they're not "scantily" clad, but it is still a hot girl being used to attract attention to a booth. I feel bad that she had to wear that awful outfit...

  55. Thank goodness by drunkensmiter · · Score: 1

    Now we can finally get these poor gorgeous women back out to their old jobs, working the street corners.

  56. Illegal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when are the organizers of E3 also state and/or federal legislators? RTFA

  57. -1 OFFTOPIC by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Government loves to try to control morality."

    No government intervention involved or called for. RTFA.

    You have your own blog in which you can bemoan government as much and as often as you want. This isn't it. Fight the power somewhere else please.

    1. Re:-1 OFFTOPIC by bcattwoo · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I think he must have a band of groupies that follow him around modding all his comments insightful. He's totally off the mark with the govt intervention angle, yet he still gets modded +5.

    2. Re:-1 OFFTOPIC by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      You, sir, rock. With your permission, I'd like to use that in one of my staff meetings.

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    3. Re:-1 OFFTOPIC by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "With your permission, I'd like to use that in one of my staff meetings."

      It's not really mine, I stole it from elsewhere on the internet.

    4. Re:-1 OFFTOPIC by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Sweet. You still rock.

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  58. Question to Men by mrm677 · · Score: 1

    Would you feel comfortable at a game conference surrounded by scantily clad men flexing their muscles?

    1. Re:Question to Men by xtieburn · · Score: 1

      Well no, but I wouldnt feel uncomfortable either.

      Youd have to be a fairly insecure person for it to be an issue.

    2. Re:Question to Men by Cybrex · · Score: 1

      Honestly, after maybe 30 seconds of "that's not what I normally find here" I don't imagine I'd give it another thought.

      Contrary to common opinion, there are geek girls out there, (and for that matter not all of the geek guys are straight). I see no reason why there shouldn't be eye candy for everyone.

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    3. Re:Question to Men by CaptKilljoy · · Score: 1

      >Would you feel comfortable at a game conference surrounded by scantily clad men flexing their muscles?
       
      Sure.

      In all seriousness, please tell me why I shouldn't.

    4. Re:Question to Men by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Sure. Unless they were the she-men body builder types and they looked like they wanted to kick my ass.

      Other than that, no problem.

      I'm comfortable enough with my manhood to have scantily clad MEN there. I mean, why not have something for everybody?

      I think these restrictions are kinda dumb, personally. If people don't like it, look away or don't go. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, none of the girls that I've seen at E3 or CES are wearing anything that is truly indecent, i.e. showing any skin that isn't already on display at the local mall.

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  59. Maybe Colin Campbell is Gay?? by Black-Man · · Score: 1

    And he's just pissed they don't have guys in black leather chaps in the booths.

  60. Bullshit by 1WingedAngel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense."

    You mean like when Microsoft brought in the Laker Girls? Or when Sony got Denise Harris to dress up as that half-nekkid elf chick? Please.

  61. Realistic physics in games will never catch on by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 2, Funny
    Given the turn in many of the games I've seen lately to produce "larger" more realistic (visually if not dimenensionally) boobies, I'd say that booth babes are rather representative in ways of the games being advertised.

    "Realistic physics in games will never catch on. Lara Croft would keep falling over forwards." - Stephen Turner

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  62. Brokeback E3 by Ranger · · Score: 1

    Good Riddance To Booth Babes

    Noooooooo!I guess I won't be attending any more expos. The only thing that'll make me stop (or slow down) at a booth is a booth babe or they have something really cool.

    Colin Campbell has an editorial at Next Generation in which he applauds the decision to fine risque outfits worn by the traditional 'booth babes'.

    Is Colin gay? Would he prefer Booth Stud Muffins?

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  63. Colin Campbell by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
    Researcher: "So what did you kids think of the Colin Campbell article?"

    Stan: "Gay"
    Cartman: "Gay"
    Kenny: "Mphy"
    Kyle: "Liberace gay"

  64. Don't quit your day job... by NixLuver · · Score: 1

    ... since "Constitutional Lawyer" is probably not in your future. :D

    Let's see, by your measure, a person who is physically mute doesn't have first amendment rights to express him/herself? Sounds like a flawed interpretation to me.

    I would also point out that the Supreme Court disagrees with your constitutional analysis. They have upheld quite a few activities not specifically defined in the first amendment as protected under its auspices - things like flag burning, performance art, hand gestures, and other 'non-speech' expressions.

    1. Re:Don't quit your day job... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      They are on a case-by-case basis, then. This is why public nudity is against the law, and no law governing it will ever be struck down on terms of constitutionality.

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    2. Re:Don't quit your day job... by NixLuver · · Score: 1

      First, I would like to point out that *all* legal cases are decided on a case-by-case basis. I would add that the precedent in first amendment cases discusses a 'freedom of expression' under the Constitution - you can go to the SCUSA website and read the decisions yourself if you're so inclined. The case-by-case part has been, historically, to decide if a given action was indeed a protected form of first amendment expression.

      Whoah... "never" is a long, long time, my friend. But just to show you how far we have progressed towards your 'never', here's a fun link:

      http://www.globalideasbank.org/site/bank/idea.php? ideaId=1695

      quote from above article:

      "This is partly because they have only recently discovered that it is perfectly legal for them to do so. In a decision in People vs Ramona Santorelli and Mary Lou Schloss, two activists in another movement, called the Coalition for Topfree Equality, the New York State court of appeals ruled last summer that women had the right to go barechested wherever men were allowed to. This meant, in effect, that they could do so not only when sunbathing in parks or on beaches, but also on the streets or in the subway."

      New York thinks that discrimination between the sexes is unconstitutional. Furthermore, spend a little quality time with google and you can find precedent where indecent exposure charges were dismissed based on First Amendment right to expression. I think it's only a matter of time before public nudity falls under that aegis.

    3. Re:Don't quit your day job... by Peter+La+Casse · · Score: 1
      This is why public nudity is against the law, and no law governing it will ever be struck down on terms of constitutionality.

      Or if not never, then at least not this month... d'oh!

    4. Re:Don't quit your day job... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      You can look here for the U.S. review of just what "expression" and "speech" are. There is no stated freedom of expression, nor is it safe to assume that there is. Sure, you can bring it before the SC, however, the ruling will depend upon how liberal with the amendment that the judges are.

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    5. Re:Don't quit your day job... by NixLuver · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'm confused. Are we arguing the same side of the question? Your link seems to indicate so, because the documentation states exactly what I did, above. To wit:

      "Freedom of "Expression"

      **In China, as in the United States, there is no constitutional right to freedom of "expression." Rather, both countries' constitutions specify that citizens enjoy the rights to freedom of "speech" and freedom of "publication/the press." ** This website uses the term "freedom of expression" as an umbrella term to encompass both of these rights.

      "Freedom of "Speech"

      "Freedom of speech" is often used in ** U.S. jurisprudence to refer to non-verbal "expression" (such as flag burning).** However, in the interests of clarity, in the Virtual Academy the term "freedom of speech" refers only to spoken and written expression.'

      The two points of emphasis I include here are exactly the point I was attempting to make; to claim there is no constitutional right to 'freedom of expression' is semantically accurate but connotatively misleading, since expressive non-speech activities such as flag burning and flipping people the bird are included by the courts (American Jurisprudence) under the canopy of freedom of speech. I never implied, nor intended to convey, that *every* expressive activity was protected; I agreed that each one would be addressed on a case-by-case basis. Just as some literal forms of speech have been ruled 'unprotected under the first amendment', one must expect that some forms of non-speech expression will not be protected under the first amendment. I merely pointed out that 'freedom of expression' is a term used in American Jurisprudence to describe the protections of the First Amendment, and I see nothing here that contradicts that.

      Thanks.

  65. I dunno, man by lorcha · · Score: 1
    the only reason any of them would be looked at even twice if they were to, say, go shopping in the center of my city tomorrow was because it doesn't fit to the damn cold.
    I dunno, man. The last time I was in Hamburg, there were naked people walking around in public, all right. Too bad they were all 90-year-old men.

    <shudder>

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    1. Re:I dunno, man by Tom · · Score: 1

      Next time, turn left from when you enter main station, that's the shopping area.

      To the right is the seedier of our two red-light districts. I'd advise avoiding it, but I see you no longer need that advise. ;)

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  66. Meh! by dud83 · · Score: 1

    An act of rampant homosexuality and/or zealous religious non-sense! ;o

  67. Rather selective, aren't we by Hans+Lehmann · · Score: 1
    The ones who attract the largest crowds are either celebrities (fair enough),...

    Why do you also not have a problem with celebrities being used to draw people to the booths? Some B-list actor is no more relevant to the products being sold than some chick in hot pants is. They're placed there for only one reason, to make people gawk and hopefully notice the products being pitched. While you're at it, how about regulating the rampant appearance of celebrities in public; the world would truly be a better place if you did.

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  68. Longer lines by mackman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Booth babes had the wonderful effect of attracting lines of single guys wanting a photo or autograph. That means shorter lines for the game and hardware demos the rest of us want to see. Without booth babes, everyone will look at the games, which ruins it for the rest of us.

  69. Normal life by Xemu · · Score: 1

    People do not dress this way in normal life, not even in Los Angeles.

    Boy, you really do need to get out more! Here in Norway, girls dress like this any summer day.

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  70. Ah, a kindred spirit by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yeah I agree, this stuff is pretty tame. I helped with the rigging off several erotica conventions in europe and this guy would have a heart attack if he saw what went on there.

    Then again it is hard to imagine an area of public sales where a pretty girl won't do the trick. Wether it is the stewardes or the receptionist a pretty face works better.

    As for it being sexist. Advertising aimed at women either uses the most perfect male or a mental retard. "Normal" men need not apply to sell products to women.

    Hell a lot of ads aimed at females use pretty females themselves so what is wrong with ads aimed at men using sexy females.

    This guy probably got a serious case of the right wing nutter disease and starts enforcing his own impotentency on the rest of us. Just because he can not longer enjoy looking at a pretty girl he must ruin it for the rest of us as well.

    Booth babes are a way to dress up your booth, to get eyeballs on your stand and then once you got them there you can make your sale. It is very old, it happens in every industry and it won't go away. I seen these kinds of restrictions being proposed before and they are always worked around. When you are selling the next DOA game you can hardly have it being advertised by a couple of guys in suits.

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  71. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    This sounds like some newbie geekboy's plan to "go legit"


    I think one year at E3, it was in the same building as a real porn, err excuse me, adult entertainment, conference
    It's kind of fresh, e3 knows who they are selling to and don't hide from it.


    I've worked from some of the legitest, straight shootingest big companies in the world and it's just a fact of life, looks matter. Our presidents are picked in part based on looks, you think there have been many short presidents? You think Ms. Zeta-Jones is hocking T-Mobile services because of her mad GSM skillz or because she is one of the sexiest women in the world? Go to any conference or convention you want and you'll see companies with mostly men in their engineering groups and an incredibly disproportionate number of women representing their work. Not always overtly sexual but generally attractive women. Never big fat ugly women, almost 100% nice looking, fit, attractive ladies.


    You think Lara Croft is a real female role model? With her oh so realistic and common anime like proportions? Come on. Men and boys like big tits, hot chicks, long legs,all that stuff. We will buy products if you have that.

  72. Have you been to LA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "People do not dress this way in normal life, not even in Los Angeles."

      Obviously you haven't been on the streets of LA. Check out Hollywood Blvd.

  73. Nice troll.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Now that is a funny one Mr. Troll, a non-work-safe one shows up even if the "safe search" filter is on.

    And no, the link does not contain a "safe-search=off" as far as I can tell and yes my settings are on the default filter.

    Then again I am not the warning grandparent poster, I know better and that GIS tends to have non-work-safe images even with the filter in place.

    1. Re:Nice troll.... by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 1

      In all seriousness- I am a technical writer and illustrator, and I needed to see diiferent threads on valve nipples. So of course, I ask my boss where to find pics, and she comes into my office, and tells me to search google images for nipples, but to make sure that safe search was on. 7 letters and one enter later, we were both red faced.
      I am not AT ALL for censorship, however I wouldn't mind a truely safe for work search engine...

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    2. Re:Nice troll.... by MorderVonAllem · · Score: 1

      There is an option for strict safe search, which yeilds very few results with actual female nipples. there are a few male nipples and a couple paintings. The weirdest however is the kittens that get returned.

  74. The least they could have done... by UncleGizmo · · Score: 1

    is provided a few of the more egregious examples for us to downl^^^ view so we can see how bad it really is!

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  75. Yes you're right about violence, but by ChocoBean · · Score: 1

    Woah there cowboy. Whoever said anything about the parent or the article being Christian?

    Besides, let's attack the message one at a time. Today's topic is "booth babes"; we can talk about violence and Christians tomorrow.

  76. Nintendo? by Scraven · · Score: 1

    It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense.
    Apparently they didn't go to GDC last year, or they would have seen that Nintendo had their own booth-babes to really push their new tagline: "Touching is Good"

  77. What happened to make this come about? by Wingfat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    One thing makes me wonder why? and really why did they do this? dod some kid complain that he saw too many "nice looking" (American style) girls. This type of thing would only happen in America.any other country wouldnt care about girls that actually have cloths on that dont show private parts. Are they now going to make the "family restraunt" HOOTERS girls dress different now too? WTF? We have gone past being PC with this. There has to be a way to shelter kids from girls with big racks with out affecting us people that dont care.. oh yeah pock their eyes out... that might work. or provide blind folds for people when they come into the expo.

  78. What?! NO! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 1

    This is just horrible! What is so wrong about a bunch of hot women hanging out with a bunch of computer nerds?! Who was the whiner? Who ratted them out? Some Neo-feminist group? Some Irresponsible Parents group? (TV and video games are NOT Babysitters!) Senators Hillary Clinton and Joseph Lieberman?

    The "Family Entertainment Protection Act" is what to videogames what the Patriot Act is to the rest of our freedoms! I suppose all the booth babes should just show up next year in burkas!

    I don't give a damn what these up tight hippocrites say! I want my Booth Babes at E3!

    KMFDM&HC&JL&FEPA!

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  79. Where are we?! by peter1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are these shows in Las Vegas (aka the USA for those that forgot it) or somewhere in the Middle East? Last time I checked we had Freedom of Expression and Speech in this country and we do not dictate what our women can or cannot wear!

    If somebody is willing to pay a beautiful woman to wear a skimpy outfit, and she is willing, then hey so be it! As for those that do not like it, do not look at them or go to these shows! Remember freedom of choice applies to you as well!

  80. Good grief... by Lord_Pain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's difficult to imagine, say, EA or Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo bothering with this nonsense.

    Has this fool played any games from the last 15 years? How many of those games have women in skimpy outfits? How many of those game women are horny developers' wet dreams?

    Please! These booth babes are just a reflection of what's in the bloody games!

    Pretentious fool.

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  81. Coming out article by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess this is Colin Campbell's coming out article as any warm blooded hetero male (i.e. the audience many of these companies often target) are drawn to the booth babes like flies on crap.

    This guy also knows nothing about trade show exhibits. Its about getting the audience to your booth so they can see your wares. Offer some gimmick (free something), contests, flashing lights and babes in tight clothing and your going to attract the crowds. Attract enough of a crowd and the audience is perpetual, more are drawn to the congregation to find out what is going on which draws more people. Eventually, some of them are going to look at your product as opposed to your competitor's who are sitting alone in the corner with their bow ties and morals intact.

    It may be garish or immoral, but its marketing at its finest!

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  82. tech weenies != psychologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the real issue at steak is a greater cultural understanding of our own sexuality, which america has been struggling with ever since they evolved from their original puritanical roots. I'm not sure that a tech weenie is really qualified to get into that discussion--I know I am not.

  83. Re:Bah. It's part of society. by Schmedley53 · · Score: 1

    Errr, if you do a little research you will find that sex has been selling products from about 150 years ago. True, overt sexuality is a fairly recent (circa 1960) phenomenon, but the underlying message has been there for quite some time.

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  84. I think your boss was giving you a come-on... by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yet strangely, valve nipples will give you fourteen pages of mostly-relevant images, with no spurious mammalian protuberances to be found.

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  85. Colin Campbell by payndz · · Score: 1

    If he's the same Colin Campbell who once dissed me in (now defunct) UK videogames trade weekly CTW, then I can say with authority that all his opinions are 100% wrong. Go booth babes! :p

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  86. The Real "Problem" by TERAT0GEN · · Score: 1

    If only we good get rid off religious zealot then so many "problems" won't be "problems" any more and our lives would be so much happier and simple.

    1. Re:The Real "Problem" by TERAT0GEN · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I'm too tired. Had a long day. What I meant is: If only we could get rid off religious zealots then so many "problems" won't be "problems" any more and our lives would be so much happier and simple.

  87. What is the I.T. NSFW response? by el+americano · · Score: 1

    Would it really be worth a write up if someone did a google image search on booth babes and got one image that shouldn't be included? I had moderate safe search on. Sometimes you just get a result you don't expect. As long as the employee closes the browser right away and isn't spending too much time on Slashdot...

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  88. What's a "booth babe"? by n6kuy · · Score: 1

    I was REALLY hoping TFA would have some pictures as examples...

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  89. Enough of these demeaning labels! by serutan · · Score: 1

    As a code monkey I find the term "booth babe" degrading to con chicks.

  90. BB's entirely appropriate by MacDork · · Score: 1

    I think someone has tightened the belt on their hat too much. Check pages 58 and 195. How is that inappropriate in the least?

  91. -1 OFFTOPIC (again) by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    "Yet my problem with Campbell is his desire to enforce morality by LAW."

    TFA makes no such assertions. If you are getting this from some other source, post a link. Otherwise this is the biggest strawman I have ever seen, all in an attempt to justify posting your diatribes in a more popular medium than your own blog.

  92. Re:Bah. It's part of society. by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 1

    True. I should have stated this was from a cultural perspective too. Compared to Japan (I'm not sure about other countries), our use of strong sexuality to sell products and advertise things is somewhat grotesque.

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  93. Save the Man! by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    Scantily clad men flexing muscles?

    PSHAW!!!

    They could have been partially nude transvestite furries in 50,000 watt blinken' LED jock straps, fire coming out of the asses shooting 200 feet in the air, grinding each other while dancin' to hippy-trippin' house music stoked on E, all the while a huge-ass Tesla coil shoots off crackling 20 foot bolts of lighting - and maybe, just maybe...

    I would look and smile, and think "Hell, that's nothing - wait until Saturday, when the Man burns..." - and still be disapointed because last year was just "so much bettah"...

    Meh - Save the Man!

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