IT is a shitty career choice, always has been and always will be.
That's what my friends told me 20+ years ago. They went into healthcare to make money. Flash forward to now, I'm enjoying my "shitty career" in IT while my friends hate their jobs because they're cleaning up someone else's shit. Ironically, hospitals have been my best paying IT jobs.
People I know who insisted in staying with IT ended up making ends meet by moonlighting as "troubleshooters" but modern OSs, smartphones and tablets means they're not needed anymore.
I work full-time in government IT, make $50K per year and save 20% of what I earned. I also live in Silicon Valley. I have no need to moonlight to make extra money.
Please explain. As I pointed out in my previous comment, I haven't stepped inside an HR office in 20+ years. I don't understand why I would have to wipe off my chin from stepping out of the HR office.
So, when you are talking to a non-IT / non-IT savvy network user who has to "remember" 20 (and that's not a high number for some folks) different UID/PAS combos, what exactly is your suggestion beyond writing it down and securing the written source?
That's an extremely high number of combos. Most jobs that I had only required a single password. My current job has two-factor authentication: Windows login is a PIV card with a PIN, and administrator account has a security login with a complex passwords.
What about when you forget to finish wiping your chin whenever you walk out of HR? Do they get mad then?
Your question makes no sense whatsoever. I haven't stepped inside an HR department in 20+ years, as most Fortune 500 companies have outsourced HR to outside agencies.
I've worked at many Fortune 500 companies in Silicon Valley. Each one has the same policy that users aren't supposed to share or write down their passwords. As an IT support technician, I had to prevent people from telling me their passwords. It never fails that find someone's password written on a Post-It note on their monitor or underneath their keyboard. Whenever a user compromises their password, I set their AD account to change password on next login. They always get mad at me when they have to change their password.
Vice President of the United States isn't your garden variety job. If this was an ordinary job that demanded my social media passwords, I would say, "Oh, hell no!"
On a related note, I'm still waiting for Donald Trump to release his tax returns.
There's quite a few cities and oil terminals that sit on the Persian Gulf. From what I read elsewhere, the daily temperatures will be so hot that people will just drop dead without an environmental suit.
I worked for three different contracting agencies during that time. One provided the daily job. The other two provided multiple assignments for the weekends. The investigator insisted that I list each assignment..
If you worked for a agency (development, advertising, marketing, etc), any non-compete clause could essentially be anti-moonlighting clause.
I've worked for a East Coast firm with an employment contract so restrictive that I laughed out aloud, signed the contract, and returned it to HR. When I pushed back against a micro-managing manager who got on my nerve, he threatened me with the contract. I told him to review the contract with a CA labor attorney. The manager backed off in a hurry and I finished the contract without further incident. That contract was unenforceable in CA.
I find it easier to check around bus stops and parking lots for discarded lottery scratchers to enter into the second chance drawing website. Never won anything online over the last eight years, but I did find an unused scratcher stuck to another scratcher that was a $20 winner. After the Great Recession, I found and entered 500+ scratchers over a two year period (2009-10). These days I'm lucky to find a half-dozen or so scratchers each month.
I'll add to my comment that I've *NEVER* heard this called a hustle, and it seems like a terrible term to use because classically "hustle" has been a term for a scam, con, or some other way of shady way of making cash.
Also known as multi-level marketing. I used to have a roommate who was really big into being an entrepreneur that he was a member of four or five MLM programs. Coming up with the rent every month was a major hustle for him. He barely got by as it was it. He blew off anyone who suggested that he get a regular job and focus on one MLM program. I don't know what happened to him after the dot com bust. It wouldn't surprise me if he was working on another hustle or two.
Now jobs have employment contracts with anti-moonlighting clauses.
With 20+ years of experience in IT support, I've never seen an employment contract that prohibits me from moonlighting. Especially since all my contracts also prohibits me from working more than 40 hours per week.
My IT support contracts for the last 10+ years prohibits me from working more than 40 hours per week. Since my day job pays the bills and I got the time, I'm free to hustle after work and on the weekends.
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IT is a shitty career choice, always has been and always will be.
That's what my friends told me 20+ years ago. They went into healthcare to make money. Flash forward to now, I'm enjoying my "shitty career" in IT while my friends hate their jobs because they're cleaning up someone else's shit. Ironically, hospitals have been my best paying IT jobs.
People I know who insisted in staying with IT ended up making ends meet by moonlighting as "troubleshooters" but modern OSs, smartphones and tablets means they're not needed anymore.
I work full-time in government IT, make $50K per year and save 20% of what I earned. I also live in Silicon Valley. I have no need to moonlight to make extra money.
A high-flying stock missed the quarterly earnings by a penny per share and the share price plunged 50% in after market trading.
Translation: Stock analysts are dicks.
Please explain. As I pointed out in my previous comment, I haven't stepped inside an HR office in 20+ years. I don't understand why I would have to wipe off my chin from stepping out of the HR office.
Small business doesn't get someone to do each job, those are all on my list :(
How does this relate to my comment about Fortune 500 companies where the average worker typically has a single login credential?
People who work at companies follow company policy - or their job is in danger.
I never heard of anyone getting fired for abusing the password policy.
So, when you are talking to a non-IT / non-IT savvy network user who has to "remember" 20 (and that's not a high number for some folks) different UID/PAS combos, what exactly is your suggestion beyond writing it down and securing the written source?
That's an extremely high number of combos. Most jobs that I had only required a single password. My current job has two-factor authentication: Windows login is a PIV card with a PIN, and administrator account has a security login with a complex passwords.
What about when you forget to finish wiping your chin whenever you walk out of HR? Do they get mad then?
Your question makes no sense whatsoever. I haven't stepped inside an HR department in 20+ years, as most Fortune 500 companies have outsourced HR to outside agencies.
And I'm still waiting for Hillary to reveal who's all donated to the "Clinton Foundation", her secondary bank account she pretends is a charity.
Under the law, the Clinton Foundation is a charity.
https://www.501c3.org/what-is-a-501c3/
I've worked at many Fortune 500 companies in Silicon Valley. Each one has the same policy that users aren't supposed to share or write down their passwords. As an IT support technician, I had to prevent people from telling me their passwords. It never fails that find someone's password written on a Post-It note on their monitor or underneath their keyboard. Whenever a user compromises their password, I set their AD account to change password on next login. They always get mad at me when they have to change their password.
Vice President of the United States isn't your garden variety job. If this was an ordinary job that demanded my social media passwords, I would say, "Oh, hell no!"
On a related note, I'm still waiting for Donald Trump to release his tax returns.
Is that a bad thing?
Only for the Europeans when the climate refugees show up on their borders.
Please by all means post your dire predictions, but shut up when you're wrong.
I stand corrected. The Persian Gulf will become uninhabitable at the end of this century.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/10/26/climate-change-could-soon-push-persian-gulf-temperatures-to-lethal-extremes-report-warns/
Dude, I don't care where you drink your piss. :P
Don't act like you're some special snowflake.
Your opinion, not mine.
[...] not because they're passing some oppressive judgment on your lifestyle.
Seems like you have a very bad habit of projecting your opinions on to other people.
It's uninhabitable already.
There's quite a few cities and oil terminals that sit on the Persian Gulf. From what I read elsewhere, the daily temperatures will be so hot that people will just drop dead without an environmental suit.
The land surrounding the Persian Gulf will be uninhabitable by mid-century. The daily heat will be too hot for everyone's grandmother and camel.
daemon possession
Who DOES that???
Scavengers.
Fortunately the government IT is full of nutjobs.
But I'm not ex-military like so many of my coworkers.
I worked for three different contracting agencies during that time. One provided the daily job. The other two provided multiple assignments for the weekends. The investigator insisted that I list each assignment..
If you worked for a agency (development, advertising, marketing, etc), any non-compete clause could essentially be anti-moonlighting clause.
I've worked for a East Coast firm with an employment contract so restrictive that I laughed out aloud, signed the contract, and returned it to HR. When I pushed back against a micro-managing manager who got on my nerve, he threatened me with the contract. I told him to review the contract with a CA labor attorney. The manager backed off in a hurry and I finished the contract without further incident. That contract was unenforceable in CA.
I find it easier to check around bus stops and parking lots for discarded lottery scratchers to enter into the second chance drawing website. Never won anything online over the last eight years, but I did find an unused scratcher stuck to another scratcher that was a $20 winner. After the Great Recession, I found and entered 500+ scratchers over a two year period (2009-10). These days I'm lucky to find a half-dozen or so scratchers each month.
I'll add to my comment that I've *NEVER* heard this called a hustle, and it seems like a terrible term to use because classically "hustle" has been a term for a scam, con, or some other way of shady way of making cash.
Also known as multi-level marketing. I used to have a roommate who was really big into being an entrepreneur that he was a member of four or five MLM programs. Coming up with the rent every month was a major hustle for him. He barely got by as it was it. He blew off anyone who suggested that he get a regular job and focus on one MLM program. I don't know what happened to him after the dot com bust. It wouldn't surprise me if he was working on another hustle or two.
Now jobs have employment contracts with anti-moonlighting clauses.
With 20+ years of experience in IT support, I've never seen an employment contract that prohibits me from moonlighting. Especially since all my contracts also prohibits me from working more than 40 hours per week.
My IT support contracts for the last 10+ years prohibits me from working more than 40 hours per week. Since my day job pays the bills and I got the time, I'm free to hustle after work and on the weekends.