54C Recorded In Kuwait Likely Hottest On Record In Asia (foxnews.com)

An anonymous reader writes from an Associated Press report: The UN weather agency said it suspects that the 54C temperature recorded in Kuwait has set a record for the eastern hemisphere. The World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) said Tuesday it is setting up a committee to look into whether the temperature recorded last Thursday in Mitrabah, Kuwait, was a new high for the eastern hemisphere and in Asia. WMO's Omar Baddour said it is "likely" to be an eastern hemisphere record. Last week, swathes of the Middle East and North Africa and were hit by heatwaves that have become more frequent over the last half-century, and Earth is fresh off the hottest six months on record. WMO says the world record high of 56.7C was recorded at Furnace Creek in Death Valley, California, in 1913. In the UAE, highs of 49C are expected inland on Wednesday. Last year, the mercury rose above 50C in Sweiham, near Al Ain.An article on Citylab, citing NOAA's latest analysis notes that it was the warmest June in the modern history and also the 14th consecutive month of unprecedented hotness.

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That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Phasedshift]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

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[judoguy]

But it's dry heat.

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[damn_registrars]

Still deadly, you just die a different way.

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[K. S. Kyosuke]

We can always sprinkle a bit of water on you if you want.

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[Anonymous Coward]

A dry 129.2F isn't a problem if you have water. Our biology is built with cooling systems that work very well in this scenario.

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[cayenne8]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Thanks....59C means absolutely nothing to me....I was about to have to go look this up on a google conversion....PITA.

:)

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[jfbilodeau]

I hope you realize that 129.2F means absolutely nothing to the majority of the world. ;)

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[allcoolnameswheretak]

Meanwhile, conservative America still has its head up its ass insisting that climate change is a liberal conspiracy and evolution the thing of the devil.

Now there's something Saudi Arabia and the US have in common. Love for oil, religious nutjobs and ignorance towards scientific evidence.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

More than halfway to the water boiling point, roughly twice as hot as a hot day (30C) and three times as hot as a reasonably comfortable temperature (20C). You're welcome.

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[coinreturn]

A dry 129.2F isn't a problem if you have water. Our biology is built with cooling systems that work very well in this scenario.

The only cooling system I want at that temperature is air-conditioning!

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[bev_tech_rob]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Thanks....59C means absolutely nothing to me....I was about to have to go look this up on a google conversion....PITA.

:)

'Murica! Fuck yeah! (roll eyes)

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Opportunist]

At this temperature that would be quite useless, considering your body would have taken care of that LONG before it hits the 54 degree.

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[Anonymous Coward]

This is an American site dipshit.

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[gfxguy]

Before I get slammed for this, note that I certainly don't deny global warming/climate change, but when we get record cold (which some areas got last winter), and "deniers" use that as evidence that global warming is a sham, what do you say to them?

Well... the same thing applies here.

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[GeekWithAKnife]

Reported on 129.2FM? All I get is static -why is that modded Informative?!

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[Anonymous Coward]

The funny thing is that your "better" Celsius requires a decimal place on a thermostate to be useful, where as that .9 you added was pretty much superfluous. We can measure pretty much every useful temperature for humans (no, Canada, your winter isn't useful) with a 2 digit positive number, where you need a negative for chilly, a decimal place to get adequate precision. Sure, yours is better because it's based on a fluid instead of a different fluid.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[jfdavis668]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

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[saloomy]

It depends on the wind. No, seriously. I'm from Kuwait and grew up there through high school. If the wind comes in from the west to east, the air coming from KSA or Iraq is dry. If it blows east to west, it can be very humid. I can also tell you that Kuwait has some of the most capable infrastructure to deal with that kind of weather. Your parking structures in most malls are air conditioned, and they have malls that are converted city streets with glass and construction fabric making them indoor so they can be air conditioned. People also acclimate pretty well over there. When I return for a visit from SoCal, it's incredible how much better some of my cousins can handle the heat better than I can. That wasn't the case when I lived there. I remember reading about it taking a few weeks for your blood to become thinner and more capillaries to grow in your skin which helps you cool off.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[GeekWithAKnife]

Except of course if you happen to be very young and unable to regulate your body temperature as efficiently as a fit adult...

Oh and if you're very old...because same....and if you're pregnant..and well I think it's obvious such heat is dangerous.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Just because the "liberal" party in the US stumbled in to the scientific position on many issues, that doesn't mean it isn't ready to drop the emotion bomb when science doesn't back them up. It is great to have science back you up on your political positions but don't use it as some sort of righteous defense for your political affiliation unless you will break with the party when they are clearly in the wrong.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Yes, it was a dry joke.

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[Anonymous Coward]

... America isn't the world? /s

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[Anonymous Coward]

So by using your logic next time it's unseasonably cold we can claim this is proof that the world is cooling? Fact is single data points, even if they are record breaking don't indicate anything useful. The overall trend is more important. You're not helping your argument.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[K. S. Kyosuke]

The actual funny thing is that your "2 digit positive number" has overflown into three digits for this story.

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[berj]

Saying that an extreme cold temperature is evidence that there's no climate change going on is like saying "how can there be a tsunami coming? there's no water at all on the beach!!"

With extreme highs can come extreme lows.. the whole system is going out of whack. But the overall trend is steadily upwards.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[K. S. Kyosuke]

That they're not paying attention the the record-highs/record-lows ratio?

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[stealth_finger]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Or 327.15 K if you care.

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[Anonymous Coward]

That's why they dropped the "global warming" for "climate change" terminology.

And WTF is with all the extra info when posting

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[smooth wombat]

My dad talks with a guy or two from England almost every day. They both use miles, miles per hour and other such units. Very rarely do they use metric for anything.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I hope you realize that 129.2F means absolutely nothing to the majority of the world. ;)

I hope you realize that your post added absolutely nothing to the discussion.

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[stealth_finger]

Bollocks. No decimal needed for general temperature readings. Practically all forecasts give temp in Celsius in whole numbers unless it's specialised. Also Celsius is based on something familiar to everyone. Water boils at 100 freezes at 0, easy. Anyone can tell you 7 is cold and 70 is hot. What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

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[stealth_finger]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

Because they're the only ones we do like that because reasons. Pints is only beer and milk though.

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[stealth_finger]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Thanks....59C means absolutely nothing to me....I was about to have to go look this up on a google conversion....PITA.

:)

'Murica! Fuck yeah! (roll eyes)

Oh, I assumed he was from Belize.

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[jeffb (2.718)]

"Halfway to water's boiling point" is colder than dry ice.

"Twice as hot as a hot day" is hot enough to melt lead.

"Three times as hot as a reasonably comfortable temperature" is hot enough to glow faintly red.

On the other hand, if you stubbornly refuse to learn about how temperature actually works, you could say "add up two days of that temperature and it's hot enough to boil water!"

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

How are things in Liberia these days? Or are you in Burma? Oh that's right, the USA also uses that horrid form of measurement.

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[Fly Swatter]

The actual funny thing is that your "2 digit positive number" has overflown into three digits for this story.

So hot it went over two digits. That actually makes it very obvious just how extremely hot it was.

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[Dog-Cow]

+5, Informative?

Who the fuck was informed by that statement?

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[cayenne8]

I hope you realize that 129.2F means absolutely nothing to the majority of the world. ;)

I don't really care much about the rest of the world, as far as common every day things like watching the morning news for the weather to see the temperature, etc...and know how to dress, I have little to no contact with folks outside the US.

And since Slashdot is a US centric site...most things are (and should be) in the units of measurement we are all used to.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[justthinkit]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Or 327.15 K if you care.

Or 588.9 R if you like show horses.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[cayenne8]

Also Celsius is based on something familiar to everyone. Water boils at 100 freezes at 0, easy.

Anyone can tell you 7 is cold and 70 is hot. What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

I would venture to guess that hardly any American would know how to dress really at 7C or 70C...they are meaningless in every day use here in the US.

It depends on what you are used to and have grown up with....

I instantly know what to wear and the comfort zone of a day outside with the high at 76F. AT 76C I'd have no idea what to put on....

It isn't like when I listen to the weather forecast that I think "Hmm...how close is this to the freezing or boiling point of water?". You just know from years of experience and growing up with every day normal weather and activities.

And being that Slashdot is a US centric site...most of us here are used to getting our stores with the units of measure we're used to dealing with here, and not having to stop, hit google and find a conversion site....

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[sycodon]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

You are a terrorist, apparently.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You mean 37.8 is hot

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[Anonymous Coward]

"But the overall trend is steadily upwards."

Since, like 10,000 years ago,.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

Human body temperature.

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[freeze128]

I have heard that joke since Hudson said it in "Aliens" in 1986, but I never understood why it was funny, or why Apone got so bent out of shape when Hudson said it.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Waffle Iron]

What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

0F is the temperature of a particular ice/brine mixture, and it was approximately the lowest temperature typically experienced in Fahrenheit's area. I suppose that one advantage of that is not having to use negative values very often.

100F is approximately human body temperature. That's pretty easy to relate to.

One nice property of the system is that 0F is often dangerously cold, and 100F is often dangerously hot.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Why is that such a fucking issue for you people? Fuck off. ;)

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[geekmux]

I hope you realize that 129.2F means absolutely nothing to the majority of the world. ;)

And yet ironically the US dollar means absolutely everything to the majority of the financial world.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Actually we use both.

Distance: we use miles for some car-related stuff, but meters, cm, mm for most other things. In fact, road signs are usually in miles or meters depending on context.

Volume: We use pints for milk, beer and blood. Everything else uses litres and mililitres.

Temperature: Our weather forecasts use C, although the presenter will sometimes say what that is in F for the benefit of the old folks

Mass: Some people still use stones and lbs for personal weight, some use kg. Some recipes use lbs and oz for cooking, but most newer books and TV shows use grams.

So we're a bit of a clusterfuffle really, but we can generally work out what you mean in either imperial or metric, which is nice.

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[BlackHawk-666]

AT 76C I'd have no idea what to put on....

Don't worry, at 76C you will soon be dead. It won't matter what you are wearing.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Which is why the original article cited 54C ;)
The 129.2F is a courtesy conversion for specific parties ;)
Which you are not, so he was not talking to you ;)

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[magarity]

Because water was practically pouring on them as he said it. Steamy, humid heat feels hotter than low humidity heat.

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[GLMDesigns]

While Celsius is excellent for cooking but poor for weather. I happen to think that Fahrenheit is better for environmental temperatures. Anything above 100 is very very hot. Anything below 0 is very very cold.

Now, if by environmental temperatures, you mean a space faring people then Kelvin would be the way to go. 273K equals 0C and anything in the 290s is comfortable (60-80F), (16-27C)

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[magarity]

(American isn't a language)

Ask someone from the UK about that some time.

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[Headrick]

Shut up, Hudson!

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[AvitarX]

but 7C isn't cold.

I will admit, I am partial to F for weather, as 0-100 really is essentially the coldest and hottest weather where I live (and also because I'm familiar), but otherwise, I don't really care.

The feel of boiling water is not familiar to the typical person either.

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[BlackHawk-666]

Enjoy your life in the data ghetto that is the USA. If you want to talk to anyone from the other 95.6% of the world then it's time to get that 8th grade education you should already have.

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[AvitarX]

As to the summary, the editor should have included F (and the opposite if the original source was in F).

The site is diverse enough that it really should include both.

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[Longjmp]

Well, maybe the temperatures of an ice/brine mix and your anus is more relevant to you (although I don't want to know any details), for me, however, the freezing and boiling points of water make a lot more sense ;)

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[Dantoo]

It's approximately one sixth of the circumference on the 360 degrees circle of hotness.

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[aristotle-dude]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

You are a terrorist, apparently.

Kerry is an asshat and not to be taken seriously. Why do you Americans keep on voting is morons from the Democratic party? They have no clue what they are doing.

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[AmiMoJo]

One nice property of the system is that 0F is often dangerously cold, and 100F is often dangerously hot.

Surely that's more applicable to Celsius. 0C is the point at which water freezes most places, forming dangerous ice. It's also close to the point where you can start to experience severe health problems due to the cold if you don't take care.

100C is the boiling point of water. the point at which it starts to become steam that can burn you and at which contact can do severe, lasting damage to your skin. Well, okay, 80C+ is pretty bad too.

The other big advantages of the 0C and 100C points are that you can use water to calibrate your sensor reasonably well, by simply freezing or boiling it.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

because the wrong lizard might get in.

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[Cro Magnon]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

You are a terrorist, apparently.

Kerry is an asshat and not to be taken seriously. Why do you Americans keep on voting is morons from the Democratic party? They have no clue what they are doing.

Because they like them better than the morons from the Republican party.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly.

Climate change: Science! If you deny climate change you are denying science! You are an idiot simpleton religious nutjob!

Nuclear power: It's dangerous and we have no solution for the waste! I'll just hand-wave away the last 50 years of reprocessing technology and latest designs that are far safer and based on research and science, and are our best bet for maintaining progress of civilization without adding to climate change, because emotion! Fuck the science!

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[Cro Magnon]

I'm not interested in the freezing/boiling point of water. I know that I freeze at 0F and boil at 100F.

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[lbmouse]

So is a flame torch.

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[dunkelfalke]

If you don't care much about the rest of the world, why the fuck are you reading news about temperature in Kuwait in first place?

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[MMC Monster]

Any heat is dry once it causes your blood to boil off.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, it's 129. You can't increase precision that way. 54C could be anywhere between 53.5C and 54.5C, so 128.2F-130.1F

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[mlw4428]

But the units of measure that we use for our bombs matter.

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[OakDragon]

But it's dry heat.

Knock it off, Hudson!

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[Qzukk]

My mother spent most of my childhood while I was learning metric ranting against the metric system. She was absolutely convinced it was a plot to rip her off: that a gallon of milk would be rounded down to 3 liters and still cost as much, that a 5 pound bag of sugar would be rounded down to 2kg and cost as much, and so on.

The "shrink ray" effect of inflation proved that switching to metric was not necessary to rip everyone off, but I suspect that at the time, enough housewives felt the same as her that attempts to switch America to the metric system went nowhere.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks for speak'n 'merican!

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[xevioso]

It's still pretty fucking hot though.

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[myowntrueself]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

You are a terrorist, apparently.

Well I'm terrified so yeah.

This conversation does not make me feel safe!!!!11111oneoneone

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[Anonymous Coward]

Silly Foreigners. American thermometers use hexidecimal.

C9 F is only 2 digits.

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[Anonymous Coward]

My mother spent most of my childhood while I was learning metric ranting against the metric system. She was absolutely convinced it was a plot to rip her off: that a gallon of milk would be rounded down to 3 liters and still cost as much, that a 5 pound bag of sugar would be rounded down to 2kg and cost as much, and so on.

The "shrink ray" effect of inflation proved that switching to metric was not necessary to rip everyone off, but I suspect that at the time, enough housewives felt the same as her that attempts to switch America to the metric system went nowhere.

You're a Canadian?

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[myowntrueself]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

Yeah they call a large glass of beer 'a pint' but its not literally a pint of liquid, its just a euphemism. If you empty your glass and get a measuring jug, fill it to 1 pint of water then pour it into the glass it'll overflow. I've done this.

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[XxtraLarGe]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

If John Kerry is so worried about AC, there's always this: Remove air conditioning from all US State Department property. I'm tempted to sign it, but don't want to be added to the enemies list when Clinton/Trump gets elected.

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[allcoolnameswheretak]

I'm not basing my post on the "single data point", but on these:

were hit by heatwaves that have become more frequent over the last half-century

Earth is fresh off the hottest six months on record

the warmest June in the modern history and also the 14th consecutive month of unprecedented hotness

Gee, did you not even read the freaking summary?

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[Anonymous Coward]

That's 183.71 K if you're interested.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Since when did the rest of the world matter on this US site?

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[AthanasiusKircher]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

Well, basically it's a complete myth that everywhere but the U.S. converted to metric in everyday life. The UK has "officially" been using metric for 50 years, but imperial units are EVERYWHERE in common circumstances if you bother to look for them. (For a full explanation, you might look at this report from the UK Metric Association which seeks to promote literacy in metric.

There are obvious situations from everyday life where UK folks still use imperial units -- most prefer "stone" (or "pounds/ounces" for babies) for human weight, for example. But other units crop up all the time. Celsius is standard for weather forecasts, except when it gets really hot, in which case broadcasters love to point out it might get to "100 degrees!" Watts are the SI unit, but you get engines measured in HP and heating systems measured in BTUs. Clothing sizes are still commonly in inches. Road signs still commonly give distances in miles (or yards, for shorter distances and feet and inches for height restrictions). Paper is mostly metric, but photos are still standard 4"x6". Refrigerators are often still sold with volume given in cu. ft. House/apartment sizes are often still described by agents in sq. ft. Small grocers often still advertise in imperial units of weight or volume.

Etc., etc. There are also plenty of cases where more obscure units are still used in various skilled trades.

Most countries that claim to be "fully metric" have similar issues. This list is a bit old, but it shows how old non-metric units continue to be used in random places throughout Europe, even in countries that "converted" more than a century ago.

After reading a lot about this, my conclusion was that the most successful countries that really made a break with older measures did so by simply redefining their older units. Hence, the French still order a "pound loaf" of bread, but it's actually 500 grams -- they simply redefined the livre (pound) in the 1800s to be exactly half a kilo. Given the way that all the old imperial units have now been so precisely defined, it's no longer really feasible to do that anymore.

So most countries are stuck with weird hybrids, where officially everyone is supposed to use metric, but you get old units cropping up in all sorts of everyday places where they are useful.

I'm a big fan of the metric system and wish that everyone would adopt a standard measurement system -- but these residual units in most countries go to show how little utility the supposed "simplicity" of the metric system actually has for everyday life. People have a sense of how big a "X cu. ft." refrigerator is, and they can use it to compare when they buy a new one. The average person never really cares about the conversion of that unit to anything else -- they don't care that there are 1728 cu. in. in a cu. ft. and they'll basically never need to know that or do such a conversion. They just want to know how big their refrigerator is and how it compares to the new one they might buy. The units might as well be "7.2 standard refrigerator units" for all people care... and that's why these old units stick around. Very few circumstances demand conversion of units for everyday people in everyday life, so the "easiness" of the metric system means nothing to them. If they want to buy pants, they know the number that fits them -- it doesn't matter is it is centimeters or inches or cubits or furlongs.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I visited Ireland a couple of years back and got a kick out of the low bridge warning sign: "Low bridge 10'2" 1KM ahead".

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[Anonymous Coward]

Volume: We use pints for milk, beer and blood. Everything else uses litres and mililitres.

Look closely. Quite often that will be 568ml, or 454g, or 25.4mm Is that really 19mm pipe? Or just 3/4" in new measures?

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[istartedi]

100 is very close to average human body temperature of 98.6. If the temp is near 100 or above, you will have a harder time cooling off, especially if it's humid and you don't get cooling from your sweat evaporating. In Celcius it's 37 which is the 12th prime number, so you've got that going for you. /s.

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[Anonymous Coward]

And they'll tell you American is a premium brand of moron.

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[MiniMike]

That's why my thermostat reads out as a signed 8-bit integer. If it ever goes out of range (I don't live in or near Kuwait), I'm not going to be there to read it anyway.

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[cayenne8]

Enjoy your life in the data ghetto that is the USA. If you want to talk to anyone from the other 95.6% of the world

Not having the metric system here, has never affected my life, nor anyone I know really.

And for the most part, most Americans have no contact with anyone else in the world, there's really not much need for it as that the US is pretty vast and populated enough, with many diverse regions of temperament, terrain, etc.....

So, we don't really care about what your 95.6% of the world does or thinks, as that we rarely have to interact with you, and have virtually no reason to do so in every day life.

You can get off your high horse now....we don't give a shit what you do, so, why do you get so all in a huff about what we do and what units we use?

It seems YOU have more a problem with this than we do...

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[PCM2]

Meanwhile, conservative America still has its head up its ass insisting that climate change is a liberal conspiracy and evolution the thing of the devil.

Not here to refute climate change, just to point out that this particular data point doesn't necessarily support it. The fact that the record in the western hemisphere was set in 1913 and has yet to be exceeded suggests that record temperatures are just, you know, kinda rare.

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[Brett Buck]

I hope you realize that no one gives a shit about Euro-centrism.

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[cayenne8]

If you don't care much about the rest of the world, why the fuck are you reading news about temperature in Kuwait in first place?

I'm browsing through the headlines on a US Centric website, and was somewhat questioning why US Centric units of measurement weren't being used, and saying I was appreciative that someone provide the translation before I had to...

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[Bender Unit 22]

I am wondering at which temperature the AC stops working.

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[Tyler Durden]

I thought it was more like 130. The 54 gives you two significant digits, so if you round 129.2 to another number with two significant digits it goes to 130 F. Unless I'm missing something.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Americans. They can't actually read numbers beyond 3 so rather than improving numeracy, they devise a system that goes:
1 for fucking cold.
3 digits for fucking hot.
2 digits for, umm... Piss off you Brit.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gtall]

Yeah, well, looking at Trump it is hard to argue that humans evolved...then again he's also an argument against intelligent design.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Penguinisto]

It's dependent on how big of an AC unit you have (BTU rating).

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

I've suggested a similar solution for years. Washington didn't really messed up until the politicians didn't want to leave. AC have us year long schedules in Congress. DC is a swamp. Let it revert back to its normal state and we'd be better off as a country.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[TangoMargarine]

0C is the point at which water freezes most places, forming dangerous ice. It's also close to the point where you can start to experience severe health problems due to the cold if you don't take care.

Spoken like a true wuss. Try living in Wisconsin sometime: 32F is nothing. Try going out at -20F in the morning and hoping your car will start. Yes, that actually happened to me TWICE last winter.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Data ghetto? The country that created the internet, leads in technology, science, and education is a "data ghetto".

Pull the other one.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[TangoMargarine]

Plus that whole crazy thing they have instead of miles per gallon, something like "how far I can drive on x liters of gas on a sunny Tuesday." It's beyond me how anyone thinks that's easier to use than miles over gallons.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh god now I"m having flashbacks to high school science. I swear we spent that entire course just doing scientific notation over and over.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

And I'd be quite sure that the 1913 temperature at Furnace Creek was not written down as 56.7C. They had to have written 134 ('F' suffix assumed) because they were red-blooded Americans.

Captcha: deadly

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

If that were true, I would expect normal body temperature to be 100 F, not 98.6 F.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[dunkelfalke]

So basically your only reason to write here was misplaced nationalism and being too stupid to cope with Celsius. Are you drunk again?

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Water does not boil at 100C where I live, thats at sea-level.. and I see no reason why freezing water to calibrate your thermometer would not work just as well for imperial units, as long as you know the freezing point..

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Not having the metric system here, has never affected my life, nor anyone I know really.

And for the most part, most Americans have no contact with anyone else in the world, there's really not much need for it as that the US is pretty vast and populated enough, with many diverse regions of temperament, terrain, etc.....

So, we don't really care about what your 95.6% of the world does or thinks, as that we rarely have to interact with you, and have virtually no reason to do so in every day life.

You can get off your high horse now....we don't give a shit what you do, so, why do you get so all in a huff about what we do and what units we use?

It seems YOU have more a problem with this than we do...

You're actually wrong, because your premise is flawed. You do have the metric system, and you and many others have been using it.

If you had no understanding whatsoever of it, you'd be screwed, your computer would stop working, and a lot more would go wrong in your life.

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[jbengt]

Is that really 19mm pipe? Or just 3/4" in new measures?

Silly AC. A 3/4" NPS standard weight steel pipe is 20mm DN, not 19mm. And both are nominal sizes - it actually has a 0.824"(20.9296mm) Inside Diameter and a 1.05" (26.67mm) Outside Diameter.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

The site is targeted at nerds and scientists. Not using metric to appease Americans is just catering to the lowest common intelligence.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[jbengt]

Most air-cooled AC condensing units in the US are rated at 95F outside temperature. If it gets much above 105F outside, you better double check how it will actually work (or not), or maybe special order something that can work at those temperatures.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[thegarbz]

Actually the truly nice thing about Celsius is that it is just a form of measurement. People take to the form of measurement they grow up with. They equate things in ways that make sense to them. Celsius is no better than Fahrenheit in that regard (I'm waiting for the person who last time came out to say that the nice thing about Fahrenheit is that you change your cloths only on factors of 10 so you can wear the same cloths from 70F-79F)

I can draw comparisons to the length of a meter but not for yards. I can tell you the wonderful things about Celsius, and kPa, but ultimately it won't matter for someone who once figured out that a good metric for a foot is the length of a subway sandwich and will always continue to think of it like that.

The only truly superior part about the metric system is dead simple unit conversions. But saying one measurement equates better with the environment than another only shows to the world which measurement you grew up with.

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[luis_a_espinal]

The site is owned and operated by Americans, that makes it an American site, dipshit. Also, most people in the world speak more than one language, so language has SFA to do with country of origin except to rubes.

I'm sure the Americans how operate the site never had the intention to see their site considered as such. But hey, beat your chest in jingoistic bravado if it gets you into an e-raged filled patriotgasm.

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[luis_a_espinal]

The actual funny thing is that your "2 digit positive number" has overflown into three digits for this story.

Thermobaric Y2K!

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[jbengt]

Not having the metric system here, has never affected my life, nor anyone I know really

Well, you've never met me.
Though by no means a showstopper, it is definitely a pain to work using feet, inches, fraction of inches; square feet, square inches; cubic inches, gallons, cubic feet, acre-feet; pounds force, pounds mass; pounds per square inch, pounds per square foot, inches mercury, inches water, feet water, atmospheres; pounds per cubic inch, pounds per cubic foot, pounds per gallon; miles per hour, feet per minute, feet per second; etc. (Don't even let me get started about the various units for viscosity which don't have linear conversions).

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

But it's dry heat.

I'm sure this is just a joke, but anyone who has ever been to Kuwait can assure you it is anything but dry. Sure the sand and dust are dry, but it's nearly as humid as Atlanta Georgia.

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[luis_a_espinal]

AT 76C I'd have no idea what to put on....

Don't worry, at 76C you will soon be dead. It won't matter what you are wearing.

That kinda shows how little we in the US know about the Celsius system. Honestly, I've been living here for close to three decades, and I still have to convert to Celsius from time to time to truly understand cold weather reports in the Fahrenheit scale. Something to do with Celsius zero being the freezing point of water (a good reference point). Heat descriptions in F scale are easier for me to interpret, but still, I'm always like "what's water boiling point in F?" (100C is so much easier to reason.)

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[jbengt]

You do know that 98.6F is just the conversion (using an unnecessarily precise decimal place) of the nice, round 37C, and that normal body temperature varies from time-to-time and from place-to-place in the body a lot more than that "98.6" implies?

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, that's 327.15 Kelvins.

(I swear to gods if you say degrees Kelvin you deserve to be boiled alive in elephant snot)

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[luis_a_espinal]

What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

0F is the temperature of a particular ice/brine mixture, and it was approximately the lowest temperature typically experienced in Fahrenheit's area. I suppose that one advantage of that is not having to use negative values very often.

100F is approximately human body temperature. That's pretty easy to relate to.

One nice property of the system is that 0F is often dangerously cold, and 100F is often dangerously hot.

Nice, didn't know that (having grown in a Celsius-driven country.)

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[stealth_finger]

Might be owned and operated in America maybe. Do you know for sure that all the owners and operators are American, for this and all other 'American websites'. Nope, a website is a website and it's on the web. Physical location is ultimately meaningless online except to the media companies who believe in region locking and as this site isn't region locked it's just a website in English.

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[lgw]

Looking forward to the post-Brexit return to Fahrenheit, are you?

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[lgw]

Why? Is your Wolfram Alpha broken?

I mean, obviously it would be better if everyone used the One True System of Measurement, but people just don't have intuitions for millifurlongs per microfortnight yet. Still, the "go F yourself" system will inevitably triumph over its inferior competitors.

Furlong Firkin Fortnight Fahrenheit Faraday - all else is heresy (well, Foot is fine, obviously, but it's a derived unit).

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

If that were true, I would expect normal body temperature to be 100 F, not 98.6 F.

Actually, Fahrenheit picked 96(based off 12), but was slightly off in his measuring, not to mention the basic principle is unsound, as human body temperature varies considerably, even 98.6 or 99.2 are really within ranges.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Slashdot is so high on CIA cock they forgot that maybe somebody in the US would read this. Thanks. I was about to post the same thing.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

however, the freezing and boiling points of water make a lot more sense ;)

At what pressure? Both F and C are completely arbitrary units.

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[TechyImmigrant]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Please don't build any satellites. They're likely to fall out of the sky when a poor unit conversion is performed.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[angel'o'sphere]

Then you are either in the wrong pub or should read the menu better.

My irish pub around the corner does not sell pints, but 500ml glasses.

The only pints they sell are Pear Cider, a true pint of 625ml, but it comes in bottles :)

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[angel'o'sphere]

Actually it does not. Euro or CHF or Yen are more important. I believe most of the world trade is done in Euro since decades.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[angel'o'sphere]

Well,
actually that is easy, 100F is average human body temperature, apr. 37 degrees.
Zero is weird, but also easy to memorize: the minimum temperature you can create with an ice, water and salt mixture.

However I forgot how the Remour scale works :)

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[myowntrueself]

Then you are either in the wrong pub or should read the menu better.

My irish pub around the corner does not sell pints, but 500ml glasses.

The only pints they sell are Pear Cider, a true pint of 625ml, but it comes in bottles :)

This was in New Zealand. The bar staff refer to them as a 'pint' but they are 500ml.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Gavagai80]

But I'm Californian. To me, anything below 40 F is very very cold and 100 F is pretty routine.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[angel'o'sphere]

Well,
The meaning of the word changes.
In France a pint is 500ml, no idea what their original pint once was.
In Europe you can sell pints, obviously, nut you have to mention on the menu if it is a 500ml or any other size.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Miles would make me think twice, but I have some vague feel for what mph means (double it and you get an approximation of the speed in more standard kph). Horsepower? Meaningless, but I have zero feel for measures of power in cars, so meh. And as for pints: if I want a small drink to go with dinner I'll get a pot, if I want to enjoy a drink with friends I'll get a pint, and if I want to get truly hammered I'll get a yard glass. Apparently one of those refers to a measure of volume, or so I'm told :).

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anne Thwacks]

And for the most part, most Americans have no contact with reality

FTFY

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Blaskowicz]

7C is cold enough. It's even a bit too cold for good beer.

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[Kidbro]

Actually it does not. Euro or CHF or Yen are more important. I believe most of the world trade is done in Euro since decades.

Since the Euro hasn't been around for decades, that's unlikely.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[GLMDesigns]

Very good point. :-)

Still, I'm not a fan for generic environmental description.

And, if we're going to plot all the temperatures on the planet. Lows and highs from the arctic to the equator we will see the bulk of the datapoints (I would guess that 95%+) would be within the 0-100F range.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[stealth_finger]

As I am from the UK, yeah. American English is just a few different spellings. Hardly it's own language.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[magarity]

"I have a lot of stuff in my fanny pack"
"Hi, I'm Randy"
Are just the ones off the top of my head. There are plenty more.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought it was more like 130. The 54 gives you two significant digits, so if you round 129.2 to another number with two significant digits it goes to 130 F. Unless I'm missing something.

You accommodated significant digits at the end of the operation. You should have done it after the multiplication. 54 * 9 / 5 = 97.2 = 97 @ 2 significant digits + 32 = 129.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Really the thing with metric is that being base 10 isn't actually useful in the real world, and too often the adherence to that standard combined with poorly chosen arbitrary 0 point and base unit size results in inconvinent units.

A better system of mesures could probably be created by making it universally base 12 (easily divides by 2, 3, 4, and 6), using the metric prefix philosophy for naming, and making an effort to make the base unit closely match a useful existing unit.

It'd of coarse be a ton of work, and probably isn't actually going to make anyone's life discernibly better so, I won't hold my breath.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

it's based on human blood tempurature. 100 F was supposed tovbe human blood temp, but they screwed up

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[Rakarra]

You realize that it's not Euro-centrism, but it's "EVERYONE except for the US, Ghana, and Liberia"-centrism?

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Rakarra]

Most climate scientists will also warn you against taking of one temperature sample and claiming it's because of climate change. That's not how it works.
And they should doubly know because the anti-climate-change crowd takes individual weather events all the time and try to claim it's evidence against climate change.

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[Rakarra]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Slashdot is so high on CIA cock they forgot that maybe somebody in the US would read this. Thanks. I was about to post the same thing.

Is the CIA responsible for the metric system too? So hard to remember with this cock in my mouth.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, I find it incredibly difficult to remember that my house is too cold if it is below 18C and a bit warm above 25C.

Seriously, these things aren't hard to remember. Celsius beats Farenheit because 95% of the world uses it, not because one is harder than the other.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh dear, I can see you didn't do highschool physics. Absolute Zero (or 0K) is -273C.

A 54C day is most certainly not roughly twice as hot as a 30C day, nor three thimes as hot as a 20C day.

You're welcome.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Layzej]

when we get record cold (which some areas got last winter), and "deniers" use that as evidence that global warming is a sham, what do you say to them?

Any recent cold records were records at that particular station. This is a record for the entire eastern hemisphere. It's quite a difference.

Also, if people are using the temperature at one station at one particular time to dismiss the trend over the last few decades they are probably not the brightest bulbs.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[stealth_finger]

I'm not sure what your point is. So you call a bum bag a fanny pack and autumn fall. It's still the same language, hence we understand each other.

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[BKX]

You should come over to West Michigan. We're just like Wisconsin except we rarely go above 100F and rarely go below 0F (although, we did get to -10 or so last winter. That was weird.). The only problem with Grand Rapids is that we get the most snow for a sizable city in the US (according to Wikipedia). A couple of years ago we got more that 80 inches, although 30-40 is more normal. Northern Michgan and the UP are much snowier. East Michigan may as well be Wisconsin as far as snow is concerned. Also, our politicians are less crazy.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[BKX]

Fahrenheit relates to things you're likely to experience in life. 0F is the temperature at which saltwater freezes. In other words, above 0, you probably won't die or get frostbite; below 0, you will get frostbite and could die. 0F is tits cold. 100F is approximately body temperature (it's actually roughly 98.6F, but 100 is close enough). It was actually the body temperature of Fahrenheit, I believe. Below 100F, you're totally fine as long as you're reasonably healthy. Above 100F, with normal levels of humidity for non-desert areas, you could die from hyperthermia. 100F is ass hot.

To summarize (to the nearest 10 degrees):
0F dangerously cold
30F freezing cold
70F room temp
100F dangerously hot

That's why Fahrenheit is good. All of the normally experienced temperatures are 2 digits. If you go to 3 digits or 1 digit (or negative), you're in the danger zone. If I, as an engineer, had to design a temperature scale for daily use, I'd design Fahrenheit.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[NoMaster]

Not even that. Ghana uses metric.

(You probably meant Myanmar, aka Burma. And they're in the process of adopting metric.)

And that's without even considering the fact that the US doesn't use "Imperial" measurements anyway. It uses "US Customary", which is mostly based on pre-imperial measurements. Fluid measures particularly are different, which makes the old saying "a pint's a pound the world around" a lie...

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[BarbaraHudson]

Guess you missed all the early stuff (from back when I had a 40k UID before my name change), when it was unabashedly American.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[BarbaraHudson]

The site was not "targeted to scientists." Where the hell did anyone get that idea from? Mentos bottle rocket videos was not "targeted to scientists" any more than OMG PINK PONIES.

It was never "News for scientists, stuff that matters." Sheesh.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[BarbaraHudson]

Go visit archive.org and look at the history - all the way to 1998 - if you weren't around then. Definitely USA-centric.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[stealth_finger]

Definitely USA centric for sure, still is but then just as now it's accessible the world over and is just a website.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[BarbaraHudson]

The same can be said of every website, even ones that have 1 visitor a week.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

As an AC I can assure you we work at all temperatures.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Tyler Durden]

Yup, I think you're right. Keeping an answer which matches the number with the least significant digits is used when multiplication and division, giving us the 97. (Technically speaking the 9/5 has infinite significant digits since it comes from the defined boiling and freezing points of water at STP in degrees Fahrenheit and Celsius).

For addition the rules is to round to least precise number being added. Both 97 and 32 are precise to the "ones" place, and so the answer is 129. Just like you and the AC stated. My bad. :(

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[riverat1]

"But the overall trend is steadily upwards."

Since, like 10,000 years ago,.

Since like not 10,000 years ago. The warming coming out of the last glaciation (ice age) started ~25,000 years ago and reached a peak during the Holocene Climatic Optimum about 8,000 years ago. The temperature trend since then has been slightly downward as would be expected from an analysis of Milankovitch Cycles. It's only in the last ~100 years that a new upward trend got started due to the increase in greenhouse gases (mostly CO2) in the atmosphere.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[riverat1]

Before I get slammed for this, note that I certainly don't deny global warming/climate change, but when we get record cold (which some areas got last winter), and "deniers" use that as evidence that global warming is a sham, what do you say to them?

Well... the same thing applies here.

If you're talking about climate any individual record such as this one in Kuwait or individual records don't have much meaning. It's only when you analyze the changing trend in temperature over a climatically valid period of time that they have meaning in the context of climate.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[tacarat]

I thought ACs were known for avoiding heat and starting flame ups.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[riverat1]

Even the Earth having the hottest six months on record or the 14th consecutive month of unprecedented hotness is not particularly meaningful in the context of climate. It could be just a statistical fluke. But when you plot the trend of El Nino temperature trends over the last 50 years you find a steadily increasing temperature for El Ninos (as well as La Ninas and ENSO neutral years) which is meaningful in the context of climate.

Here's the graph.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Fahrenheit is easy to calibrate too with water, ice, and your own ass! (Remember that the salt goes in the water and neither go in your ass)

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[Anonymous Coward]

What's so hard about three digits? Most people seem ok with a bank account with more than three digits. So you could just use Kelvin.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[istartedi]

That's why I used the word "average" in reference to body temperature. I didn't think an explanation of that was necessary; but thanks for filling in those who might not be aware of it. I'm not sure exactly what the healthy variation is for human body temperature; but I know it exists.

An *average* of 98.6 or 37 literally implies nothing about the healthy range. If you didn't know anything else about humans, telling them the average wouldn't tell you if 70F was a healthy body temperature or not.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Most people over 40 don't use cm for anything in the UK

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Doubling is very rough

Closer is 100kph is 60mph (default UK extra urban limit) 50kph is 30mph (defaukt UK urban limit)

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Brexit means leaving the EU not our senses! Er, ok, I retract that.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

It's been around for more than one, hence decades. Even rounded to the nearest decade it's plural decades.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

An average that is only true for some people sometimes is a dismal calibration point. As is a temperature seen only rarely in most places. And Fahrenheit is no more American than Celsius.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

Climate change was the original terminology from the 1950s and has been in continuous use since. Global warming wasn't a popular term until the 1970s

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

"Yo mama so fat her local weather is global."

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[dave420]

Flynn's? :-P

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[dunkelfalke]

Well, since a "metric" pint is usually defined as 500ml, and a "metric" pound is usually defined as 500g, it actually works - for water, that is.

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[Anonymous Coward]

76C is what we call a swedish sauna. In such case, people usually try to cope with the underheating by throwing copious amounts of water on the stove.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[dave420]

"They"? No, "they" didn't. Global warming and climate change are two distinct things. The increase in average global temperature is called "global warming", and the changes to the climate this causes are called "climate change". I can see how you are having problems, seeing as both terms explain precisely what they mean.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[dave420]

You are making massive, sweeping generalisations of millions of opinions and concluding they are all identical. That would explain why you crafted such an adept strawman. Let me help you:

Climate change: Science! You can challenge the data all you want, but if you can't use the scientific method to do so, don't be upset if you are rightfully ignored! This is how science works.

Nuclear power: It's expensive as all hell, many people don't want them around, and they can't be placed in areas of high tectonic activity. Dealing with waste in an efficient manner requires massive expenditure, either on approving designs for breeder reactors (which takes a long, long time), or on creating a waste storage site in a location people are happy with. Some greens/left-wingers/liberals/people-you-seem-to-hate are scared of it, but not everyone.

It might help for you to understand the world you live in as opposed to simply guessing how you assume your phantom opponents think and behave, and getting it woefully wrong for all to see.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[guacamole]

Wow. That's 19 degrees higher than the "Texas normal" 110F in August.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

that list says the netherlands uses hectograms, i dont know about anywhere else but ive never seen a hectogram in my life. Ive never seen anything but metric anywhere but the US and the UK during vacations either and ive seen most of europe now.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[TangoMargarine]

Also, our politicians are less crazy.

Heh. I imagine that wouldn't take much.

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[angel'o'sphere]

Indeed :) the world is small :)
But I'm more often at Scruffy's!

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[Megane]

Nice math there, it's actually 327.15 kelvins.

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[BKX]

There's nothing hard about 3 digits. It's just a convenient marker for the danger zone. You see a third digit, you know it's too hot to stay outside without taking precautions.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

But it's dry heat.

that's a dry humor.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

Kerry says AC is worse than ISIS.

You are a terrorist, apparently.

""Yesterday, I met in Washington with 45 nations — defense ministers and foreign ministers — as we were working together on the challenge of [the Islamic State], and terrorism," he said. "It's hard for some people to grasp it, but what we — you — are doing here right now [amending the Montreal Protocol] is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself."" http://www.washingtonexaminer....
remedial reading for rightwingers. http://www.teacher-of-english....
goes along with that remedial science course they need.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[istartedi]

According to WebMD an individual normal varies just 1F (0.6C) from 98.6F (37C), and it may vary the same throughout the day. So. +|- 2F or 1.2C. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

Meanwhile, conservative America still has its head up its ass insisting that climate change is a liberal conspiracy and evolution the thing of the devil.

Not here to refute climate change, just to point out that this particular data point doesn't necessarily support it. The fact that the record in the western hemisphere was set in 1913 and has yet to be exceeded suggests that record temperatures are just, you know, kinda rare.

well, as this current flurry of high temp has brought up in the media, there is some disagreement that the 1913 Death Valley record was not an artifact of some sort of measurement error, in that none of the surrounding weather stations recorded a temperature remotely like that on that date, and in that region it is unusual for one station to have an isolated reading different from the neighbors.
at very minimum, though, this indicates that even if the Death Valley record is accurate, it was limited to a single weather station, whereas the current records represent record and near record heat throughout the entire Middle East.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

Before I get slammed for this, note that I certainly don't deny global warming/climate change, but when we get record cold (which some areas got last winter), and "deniers" use that as evidence that global warming is a sham, what do you say to them?

Well... the same thing applies here.

Yes, but frequency of new record highs vs frequency of new record lows is also a statistic, which can be analyzed mathematically. look up nonparametric statistics if anyone's interested.
the basic principle here is not that record highs and lows are useless for making conclusions; rather that an N of 1 is of course unreliable, but when your N is like 20 or so you can make some meaningful deductions from the distribution of the record highs and lows.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

I'm not basing my post on the "single data point", but on these:

were hit by heatwaves that have become more frequent over the last half-century

Earth is fresh off the hottest six months on record

the warmest June in the modern history and also the 14th consecutive month of unprecedented hotness

Gee, did you not even read the freaking summary?

but but but... it hadn't gotten warmer since 1998! that proves there's no warming, now and forever, right?
gotta hand it to the openmindness of denialists; to hold at the same time the beliefs that 1) there is no warming and 2) the warming is not manmade is evidence of a really flexible hold on logic.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

We can always sprinkle a bit of water on you if you want.

"Domini Domini Domini, you're all Catholics now."

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

I hope you realize that 129.2F means absolutely nothing to the majority of the world. ;)

No, that would be -459.67F.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

Yeah they call a large glass of beer 'a pint' but its not literally a pint of liquid, its just a euphemism. If you empty your glass and get a measuring jug, fill it to 1 pint of water then pour it into the glass it'll overflow. I've done this.

Even weirder: the old saying, "a pint's a pound, the world around", when that's only true in the US.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

Enjoy your life in the data ghetto that is the USA. If you want to talk to anyone from the other 95.6% of the world then it's time to get that 8th grade education you should already have.

according to my hypermetric measurement system (all rights reserved) the 95.6% is OK, but you need to refer to an educational level of 6.67 decigradeschool units. http://snltranscripts.jt.org/7...

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[gzuckier]

The actual funny thing is that your "2 digit positive number" has overflown into three digits for this story.

So hot it went over two digits. That actually makes it very obvious just how extremely hot it was.

right. 100 degrees F and 129 degrees F, same thing. also, 750 degrees F.

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[gzuckier]

Also Celsius is based on something familiar to everyone. Water boils at 100 freezes at 0, easy.

Anyone can tell you 7 is cold and 70 is hot. What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

I would venture to guess that hardly any American would know how to dress really at 7C or 70C...they are meaningless in every day use here in the US.

It depends on what you are used to and have grown up with....

I instantly know what to wear and the comfort zone of a day outside with the high at 76F. AT 76C I'd have no idea what to put on....

It isn't like when I listen to the weather forecast that I think "Hmm...how close is this to the freezing or boiling point of water?". You just know from years of experience and growing up with every day normal weather and activities.

And being that Slashdot is a US centric site...most of us here are used to getting our stores with the units of measure we're used to dealing with here, and not having to stop, hit google and find a conversion site....

obviously you're both incorrect. any temperature measurement system which does not start with absolute zero is just making things difficult for no reason, since temperature is directly dependent on molecular kinetic energy, which can never be negative. you can calculate black body radiation directly from absolute temp, for instance, but you need to convert either Fahrenheit or Celsius before using them, a totally unnecessary step.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[gzuckier]

I'm not interested in the freezing/boiling point of water. I know that I freeze at 0F and boil at 100F.

try calibrating your thermometer on that basis.

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[myowntrueself]

I always wondered how everyone understood measurements given by the UK show Top Gear when they talk about miles, miles per hour and horsepower. Not to mention pints.

Yeah they call a large glass of beer 'a pint' but its not literally a pint of liquid, its just a euphemism. If you empty your glass and get a measuring jug, fill it to 1 pint of water then pour it into the glass it'll overflow. I've done this.

Even weirder: the old saying, "a pint's a pound, the world around", when that's only true in the US.

Wait I thought the USA used dollars?!?!?

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[gzuckier]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

Thanks....59C means absolutely nothing to me....I was about to have to go look this up on a google conversion....PITA.

:)

'Murica! Fuck yeah! (roll eyes)

As everyone knows, temperature is best expressed in degrees Q. so, the freezing point of water is 57 degrees Q, obviously the most easily understood and most useful numerical range for this measurement.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[elrous0]

Hate to break it to you, but Fahrenheit is a much better metric for measuring environmental temperature relative to human norms than Celsius. 0 degrees F is very cold for a human and 100 degrees F is very hot for a human. Celsius is great for the lab, not so great for weather reports.

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Anonymous Coward]

> majority of the world

That's other countries outside America if you're interested.

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[AthanasiusKircher]

No , the link says the Netherlands uses ounces (I.e. "ons" in Dutch) instead of the proper metric term of hectogram. The term "pond" (pound) is still around for half a kilo too in casual contexts, which approximates the size of the historical pound. The point is that even when the sizes of metric units have been adopted, people frequently keep using the old terms, which obscures the "simple" conversions that are the whole point of metric.

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[hackertourist]

Your "ow, it's hot" reflex is triggered at 54 C, skin burns develop far below 80 C.

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[Milharis]

The use of pounds in France is greatly exaggerated, it's not used at all, or only by really old people.
The use of non-metric units still exists in some corner cases (like for horses as the article says), and when following "international" standards, which mostly have roots in the US.

A rather striking example is in aeronautics, where planes use feet and knots, while gliders user meters and km/h or m/s. Planes were mostly developed in the US, while gliders were an European thing (German really, due to restrictions on planes after WW1).

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Applehu Akbar]

"Most air-cooled AC condensing units in the US are rated at 95F outside temperature."

In Arizona we call that "April."

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[Applehu Akbar]

Looking forward to the post-Brexit return to Fahrenheit, are you?

No, the British will stay with the current bizarre mixture of imperial and metric units in common use.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You are either lying or lack comprehension yourself. He did say that AC was as dangerous as ISIL. Read the transcript of his speech.

Here is the relevant portion:

And the use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing. Already, the HFCs used in refrigerators, air conditioners, inhalers, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually

Now, you could ague that the above passage comes a few paragraphs after the one you are disingenuously quoting, but its the context that matters. His speech is on the whole AGW argument that seems to be going on forever around these parts. His claim, if you missed it is:

1. ISIL is a global threat
2. AGW is a global threat
3. AC systems release GHGs
Therefore, AC is an equivalent threat to ISIL

Its pretty clear from the context of the speech what he means and what conclusion he intended for his listeners to draw. The only thing you could claim at this point is that this is just political rhetoric, meant for shock value to give his speech emotional impact. Maybe so. Nonetheless, he said it and it was a foolish comparison to make by a n abundantly foolish politician (but I repeat myself :-) ).

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[Anonymous Coward]

It was definitely East to West that day if anyone is wondering.

Re: That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[cthulhu11]

Look into my eye!

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[Anonymous Coward]

That's 129.2F if you're interested.

That's 54C in real units, if you're interested!

Re:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[Plumpaquatsch]

"I have a lot of stuff in my fanny pack" "Hi, I'm Randy" Are just the ones off the top of my head. There are plenty more.

So do different cities in the US also gave their own distinct language?

This is good

[Anonymous Coward]

We are becoming acclimatized to colonizing Venus, the Space Nutters will be pleased. Next step, breathing CO2 at 90 times Earth pressure.

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[stealth_finger]

We are becoming acclimatized to colonizing Venus, the Space Nutters will be pleased. Next step, breathing CO2 at 90 times Earth pressure.

Wanna move to Venus? Cloud cities!

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[Anonymous Coward]

Next step, breathing CO2 at 90 times Earth pressure.

I'd fail the fizzycal.

more ACs needed

[Anonymous Coward]

cool buildings down 10 degrees and everybody is happy again

You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[140Mandak262Jamuna]

You sold all the crude oil to the world. Now suffer the consequences of global warming.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[fahrbot-bot]

You sold all the crude oil to the world. Now suffer the consequences of global warming.

They were selling, we didn't have to buy, so I think the responsibility rests more with those that bought and burned all that oil.

In related news, oil also comes from other areas of the Earth.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's ok, they already have all our money and have used it to buy up all the high tech companies.
$3.5B to Uber
$3B to GE
pretty soon you are talking real money.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Uh, I would have thought that most of the cumulative CO2 is due to coal, civil engineering and metallurgy, agriculture and land use change.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[someone1234]

You please shut up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Viol8]

Causes aside, what would you call an increasing trend in temperatures if not global warming? Or did you think global warming suddenly meant all cold weather would disappear overnight?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dave420]

If all it takes for you to disregard the massive body of evidence behind AGW is someone saying something you don't like, you are terrible at this. I bet your post sounded awesome in your head, but on the screen it is laughably naive.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, we don't wonder. We just shrug and say, "another FOX news listener".

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Joce640k]

They've spent the last 20 years building artificial islands for rich people. They'll be fine.

The USA with its coastal cities? Not so much.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[gfxguy]

The problem is that areas had record cold this past winter, and "deniers" get slammed for correlating a weather event to global climate change - but when "alarmists" do the same thing, most people just nod. It is a double standard. For the record, again, before anyone gets all irate about it, I do not deny global climate change - I'm just not biased enough to be blind to the double standard.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Didn't you know?

CO2 does everything!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vdl3TRxv0c

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[Archangel Michael]

Actually, you can't point to any actual numbers that indicate it is a problem. All the predictions of disaster have failed to materialize. And things NOT predicted (like the Greening of Africa) that may actually be a benefit to the planet are ignored. CO2 is a natural gas, one that Plants love. Increasing CO2 increases plant biology, which will increase food production and continue the Greening of large areas as plants and increased rainfall mix to create new forests and jungles.

The only thing you can do is say that CO2 is slightly higher than before. You cannot say that CO2 / Global Warming / Climate Change is bad, because that is simply a subjective claim.

So, keep up with the hysterics.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, we know you dont believe in climate change, you retarded old irrelevant fart Mike.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Archangel Michael]

Says the guy glued to the disaster that is the DNC news outlets.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Archangel Michael]

Name calling, the last bastion of people who can't make an intelligent argument. And AC to boot. Color me surprised.

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[Anonymous Coward]

And people wonder why we don't believe Global Warming.

Most intelligent folks know that the people who don't believe Global Warming is real
are simply not very smart and lack a basic understanding of the scientific method.

So no, we don't wonder why you don't believe it. We just hope you don't breed, because
robots are going to do all the jobs your offspring are qualified to do, and that means they
will be sucking the productive members of society down with their cretinism.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, you can't point to any actual numbers that indicate it is a problem.

Define it. Seriously, what is it? You're just saying a generic pronoun here. Oh, you mean AGW?

Well, actually, yes, there are actual numbers that indicate problem points.

You'd know this if you had read any of the reports.

All the predictions of disaster have failed to materialize.

Well, yes, because they have yet to occur, at the levels indicated.

And things NOT predicted (like the Greening of Africa) that may actually be a benefit to the planet are ignored.

Not at all, that's a factor that has been considered. You'd know this, if you had read the reports.

CO2 is a natural gas, one that Plants love.

Plants do not have sapience, claiming they experience love is a falsehood.

Increasing CO2 increases plant biology, which will increase food production and continue the Greening of large areas as plants and increased rainfall mix to create new forests and jungles.

Except for the consideration of too much CO2 and too much heat. Not to mention the disruptive effects on human infrastructure.

The only thing you can do is say that CO2 is slightly higher than before. You cannot say that CO2 / Global Warming / Climate Change is bad, because that is simply a subjective claim.

You're right, that's why they actually tend to parse things as "Levels of CO2 that exceed ranges of..." and "Temperature increases that..." and "Climate that" and other particular references, rather than your over-simplified portrayal.

Yeah, that MIGHT be what you hear on the news, but what the fuck man, they're the same people that report a crime wave when 3 people get drunk and smash car windows.

Look, if you want to go to the IPCC, go ahead, but your criticism is moot outside it, it just makes you look like an ass.

So, keep up with the hysterics.

LOL, that's rich, coming from you.

Do you actually think you're calm and rational, that you demonstrate logic and reason?

No, Mr. Spock, you're an emotional wreck.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[CaptainLard]

No the problem is both deniers and "alarmists" can both pick temperature extremes in a given year but the global average continues stair stepping upwards likely resulting in ~4B people trying to migrate in the next century or so. But hey, the venn diagram of AGW deniers and friends of immigrants has a huge overlap right?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[mrchaotica]

The problem is that areas had record cold this past winter, and "deniers" get slammed for correlating a weather event to global climate change

Record cold can be evidence for global warming. The key is to understand what "warming" actually is: adding energy to the system. Consider a glass of water. What happens when you add energy to it by shaking it? The answer is, it sloshes around -- the maximum height of the water surface gets higher, and the minimum height gets lower. Or consider the refrigeration thermodynamic cycle: one part of the system gets colder even though the total energy of the system is increasing.

That's not to say that record cold is always evidence of global warming, or indeed that it could never be evidence of an oncoming ice age. I'm just pointing out that the issue is more complicated than "record cold = cooling" or "record heat = heating" considered in isolation. We only know that record heat actually is evidence for heating because it's been observed as part of a larger pattern and was predicted by climate models and such (i.e., all the actual science that climatologists do that a Fox News sound bite is inadequate to explain).

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Not sure why you would consider GE to be a "high-tech" company...

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[AmiMoJo]

I don't think anyone serious is pointing to this as proof of climate change though. At most they might claim it is a symptom of it. It's an important distinction, because one side is saying "this is likely to be the result of climate change" and the other is saying "this one event proves that climate change isn't happening".

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[MachineShedFred]

I had no idea that Uber was a "high tech" company.

A fantastic service and good idea? Sure. High tech? Not so much.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[micahraleigh]

People stop believing in Global Warming when its proponents advocate using the US Congress as an instrument of ramming their opinions down people's throats.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[CaptainLard]

And people wonder why we don't believe Global Warming.

I don't wonder. I see it as one of the human brain's greatest weaknesses. More and more research shows that once people pick a side, they are highly likely to dig in and contrary evidence actually reinforces their incorrect position. Perhaps this served some evolutionary purpose (you only need to learn fire is hot once) but in today's world where humans have the capability to drastically alter the environment we need to listen to the fucking facts.

Lead is bad for the brain even if the lead industry spends 50 years and $millions trying to prove otherwise. Smoking causes cancer even if the cigarette industry spends 50 years and $millions trying to prove otherwise. The average global temperature is rising due to human emissions of a known greenhouse gas into the atmosphere at a rate that does indeed match most models even if the fossil fuel industry spends 50 years and $millions trying to prove otherwise. Not exactly sure what industry is against vaccinations (maybe religion) but apparently you might not even need a shadowy group to cause trouble (see recent measles outbreaks).

For an especially hilarious example, see the John Oliver clip where newt ginrich repeatedly basically says "my feelings are more important than your facts for making policy". If humanity as a whole can evolve past that bullshit maybe we have a shot at colonizing space...or at least finding out if the physics of the universe allow it. If not, then I guess we don't deserve to and we'll get wiped out and the earth will try again in a few hundred million years.

Anyway, hopefully the deniers are right cause if not, we're fucked.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Please explain how the Scientific Method applies to something that can only be theorized and not experimented upon to prove or disprove, as that is what the Scientific Method is all about.

Don't use terms you don't understand.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Record cold is evidence that it has never been colder in the time span of the record keeping. Record cold combined with other evidence can be indicators of other things, but record cold by itself is nothing more than "the lowest measurement in the dataset."

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

I think what he meant to say is that most people don't believe in the climate hysteria surrounding catastrophic anthropogenic global warming nor that CO2 is the control knob to everything. You'd have to be braindead to not see that none of the modeled predictions have ever come anywhere close to accurately predicting the climate and that the trillions being pushed into so-called 'clean energies' is nothing more than a hustle being peddled by pseudoliberal cronies such as Hillary et al and the Rockefellers (the creators of the oil industry mind you). FFS, the manufacturing of solar panels is an extremely toxic process that far outweighs the burning of fossil fuels and idiots like yourself are pushing for an all solar world:

"The extremely potent greenhouse gas sulfur hexafluoride is used to clean the reactors used in silicon production. The Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change considers sulfur hexafluoride to be the most potent greenhouse gas per molecule; one ton of sulfur hexafluoride has a greenhouse effect equivalent to that of 25,000 tons of CO2. It can react with silicon to make silicon tetrafluoride and sulfur difluoride, or be reduced to tetrafluorosilane and sulfur dioxide. Sulfur dioxide releases can cause acid rain, so scrubbers are required to limit air emissions in facilities that use it."

http://www.solarindustrymag.com/online/issues/SI1309/FEAT_05_Hazardous_Materials_Used_In_Silicon_PV_Cell_Production_A_Primer.html

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[Anonymous Coward]

I guess you didn't check the tidal gauges since sea level rise has held seedy for past 1000 years...

http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/

But you can go on believing in the climate apocalypses if you want, just don't expect it to ever happen.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

"Name calling,"

" And AC to boot. Color me surprised."

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, jet engines, nuclear reactors and MRI machines just SUCK compared to a taxi dispatch algorithm that runs on a cell phone. Fuck me, what kind of parallel dimension of idiots did I cross into this afternoon?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

If humanity as a whole can evolve past that bullshit maybe we have a shot at colonizing space...or at least finding out if the physics of the universe allow it.

Indeed. Let's start a process for correcting this gene pool. In school anyone who wants to be a politician, into the incinerator. Lawyers, incinerator. People who think arts is a major worthy of going to university, incinerator. People who believe a thousand year old work of fiction about some dude walking on water instead of what science is showing them, incinerator.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Archangel Michael]

You point to an article titled "Scientific Opinion" and want me to believe it is science? Science isn't opinion. And Opinion isn't science. You might want to recall that Piltdown Man was once Science Opinion.

Except for the consideration of too much CO2 and too much heat. Not to mention the disruptive effects on human infrastructure.

Pure speculation (Subjective). .

Look, if you want to go to the IPCC

IPCC has been caught fudging numbers. Pointing to made up data to support claims isn't really all the productive.

But since you like using Opinion as science here:

http://www.climatedepot.com/20...

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Archangel Michael]

AC = Anonymous Coward, it is how s/he chose to post. Not really a name calling ... but if that is the best you can do, that's awesome!

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dywolf]

oh stfu.
you've had this explained to you countless times.
the fact you ignore it every time simply makes you a committed troll.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dywolf]

actually the greening was predicted.
and its also known, proven experimentally, that the drawbacks of higher heat and CO2 outweigh the benefits.

drawbacks that include:
-changing plant biochemistry, turning some crops toxic, reducing insect resistance, attracting additional insects, or other various effects
-plants that don't produce their crop in the higher heat, or simply don't grow in it

but then, as I said: the fact its more complex than your naïve "well plants like CO2, so much be better" viewpoint has been explained to you before.

and you've ignored it...again.
hence youre a willfully ignorant troll, or possibly a paid one.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dywolf]

assumptions ftl

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[Anonymous Coward]

> Not exactly sure what industry is against vaccinations

Guess which industry loses when an illness is eradicated so that the next generations do not need to be vaccinated...

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

So in other words you're a hyper emotional alarmist who sits there and laps up all of the disinformation being peddled by politically motivated pseudoscientists?

If you want to believe in the climate hysteria and run around with the far left regressive nut jobs screaming 'the end is neigh!' then don't be surprised when people call you out for acting like a total tool.

Global warming is real and has been since the end of the last ice age, there's just zero evidence that humans are the main drivers of it and you'd have to be a total nitwit to 'believe' that co2, a trace gas, is the control knob to anything and everything.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

"...and was predicted by climate models"

Which model?

Fucking liar.

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[Dr. Evil]

"politically motivated pseudoscientists"

What's your local university, the Exxon information center?

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[angel'o'sphere]

What should land use and agriculture have to do with 'accumulated CO2'?
Metallurgy obviously involves coal ...

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[Anonymous Coward]

And these datasets are no where near long enough to contribute any meaningful data to any of the climate models. People seem to forget that the climate operates on a geological timescale, not decadal.

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[Kjella]

I don't wonder. I see it as one of the human brain's greatest weaknesses. More and more research shows that once people pick a side, they are highly likely to dig in and contrary evidence actually reinforces their incorrect position. Perhaps this served some evolutionary purpose (you only need to learn fire is hot once)

Probably more local diversity so we don't get wiped out by spurious reasoning, mono-culture or get stuck on some local maximum. Instead of risking the whole tribe jumping on what they think is a good thing we'll divide into camps with the old ways and the new ways like a primitive scientific experiment. Today we don't have that strong evolutionary pressure but back when people would starve and freeze and die from all sorts of injuries and diseases I imagine this could be rather important in a shifting environment with droughts and floods and heat waves and cold waves and packs of animals coming and going could change the optimal choice quite often. Perhaps we had an evolutionary need to have people stick with what's worked in the past even if it doesn't seem to be working right now.

The other part might be that we're used to people having an agenda. The more persistent people are to convince you something is true, the more skeptical we get. There might be a value to having made up your own opinion rather than to take someone else's, even if it's wrong. That one seems even more relevant today, since more and more of what we do is make ourselves familiar with second hand knowledge, things others have found out and put to paper. There's so many tons of it you just have to accept you barely have time to get a tiny glimpse of our collective knowledge. And let's face it, a lot of that has been fantasy and fiction. You can't see AGW, but people say it exists like they used to say dragons exist. It's hard to know what is actually facts.

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[Anonymous Coward]

"...maybe we have a shot at colonizing space..." ....
"Anyway, hopefully the deniers are right cause if not, we're fucked."

As a long time Space Junkie, since watching the Mercury launches, reading all of the Golden Age SF, and actually working with NASA for many years on and off, I've come to the conclusion that Space Is Not For Us, unless we train long and hard, and make some progress in selective Evolution, so that our physical bodies have a better chance of survival there. Nah, let our Robots have Space for the next millennium or so.

And there is still so much left to do down here. The Oceans haven't been colonized, and neither has Antarctica. (I'm doing my little bit- I spend half of my time on a fairly self-contained, and old but not yet landfill, Sailboat.)
Dyson is right, although the Deniers have him all wrong. We just have to learn to live with the gradual to us, but very rapidly disruptive to the surface of the Earth, Climate Change. It's too late to fix it.

I'm not sure what can be done with the Desert Belt that will slowly encircle the World. It will be even less inhabitable than it is now, and unfortunately, this is where the highest birthrates currently are. But Canada and Siberia will have a lot of land freed up for growing grains and resettlement...

Captcha: optimize

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[Anonymous Coward]

What's yours?

The Rockefellers (the creators of the oil industry and Exxon) who funded ExxonKnew and are pushing all of their resources into the so-called 'clean energy' movement?

http://energyindepth.org/national/rockefellers-admit-paying-for-exxonknew-media-coverage/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29310475

Get your head out of your asses, the pseudoliberal cronies like Hillary and Obama are in bed with the same people who you think you're fighting against...morons, all of you.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Rakarra]

Sea levels rose at around 0.0 to 0.2mm per year for the last two thousand years. They rose a total of 6 cm during the 19th century, and 19cm in the 20th century.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Uhm, plant matter is a CO2 sink. When you cut shit down and dig up the ground that releases metric tons of CO2. Just mowing the lawn can drive co2 concentration upwards to around 10000 ppm for a short time around your house before it's sequestered back into the surrounding environment.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[riverat1]

The temperature datasets don't contribute anything to climate models except as something to compare the climate model output to in the first place. Climate models a physical models that use the physics involved to determine their output. You could start them anywhere and they would eventually converge on a realistic representation of climate.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dave420]

So you think it's acceptable for people do stop believing in scientific findings because of what people do with them? Why not try to change the system which allegedly perverts scientific findings? Or is that too difficult, so "fuck science"?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[dave420]

It hasn't been steady, and that evidence shows that AGW is indeed something troubling. Your ignorance is not evidence.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

False.

The anthropogenic global warming (AGW) question is whether SLR will accelerate into catastrophic AGW (CAGW) requiring urgent mitigation? Warmunists argue yes, with many alarming images such as National Geographic’s photoshopped Statue of Liberty half submerged (which would require that all of Greenland and Antarctica melts before the next glaciation sets in). We know that in the last interglacial, the Eemian, the sea level highstand was about 6.6 meters above present sea level, so the ice sheets did melt more with global temperature about 2C higher (perhaps 8C higher in Greenland). This took about 3000 years to achieve. That is (660cm/30 centuries) ~22 cm/century, or roughly 2.2mm/year. That rate is no different than the best estimate of present ‘true’ SLR found in what follows.

There are two parts to the SLR alarm meme. 1. SLR is accelerating because of AGW. 2. SLR will therefore become a big problem even if not one today. Ergo, future CAGW requires urgent mitigation. Hansen says up to 1 meter SLR by 2060 (and maybe more with tipping), so goodbye Miami Beach. The Obama administration uses occasional recent high tide flooding there to support his climate urgency– without revealing that Miami Beach is 2/3 fill dredged from Biscayne Bay, and is subsiding as the fill compacts and as the underlying Biscayne Aquifer subsides as it is drained to provide Miami’s fresh water.

The actual rate of sea level rise is uncertain, let alone possibly detectable AGW acceleration. There are two basic uncertainties.

(1) SLR is inconstant because of multiannual changes in lunar tides (~18 year periodicy) and ocean currents/oscillations (~30-60 year periodicy). Tide gauges show this natural decadal variability almost everywhere. So fluctuations over just a decade or so should be discounted.

(2) SLR is locational because of geographic inhomogeneity. Land does not stand still thanks to plate tectonics, glacial isostatic adjustment (GIA), ground resource extraction (Miami water), and river delta sediment compaction (as in Bangkok). The NH is much better represented than the SH. One paper even said NH SLR is 2.0mm/yr, while SH SLR is only 1.1mm/yr. This peer-reviewed paper would be logically implausible to any 2 year old familiar with bathtubs and water.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Megane]

I call it normal statistics.

There are 365 days in a year (sometimes 366), and many places in the world have only had proper temperature records kept for only 100-150 years. Thus the chance of any random day having a record temperature (among recorded temperatures) is not bad at all.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

So where's your evidence?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yet they never do:

https://ktwop.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/73-climate-models_reality.gif

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[riverat1]

That graph would be more real if the "reality" was extended through 2015. You would find the observational data very close to the average of the climate models.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Which climate model(s)?

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[micahraleigh]

My ancestors risked their lives to cross the Atlantic because the system wanted them to "stop believing in" X.

If global warming is real, people will believe it. Nobody is forced to believe the oil companies.

When people start getting nervous that ordinary people will decide on their own what to believe, it is a sign of desperation in themselves and weakness in their cause.

Look at the fraud committed by the East Anglia Institute to cover up their AGW fabrications. A lot of other universities were in on it also. Look at how Nazis Germany told people to believe the earth formed out of ice. Look at how the USSR told their citizens families are inherently economic and therefore evil entities.

You're going to tell me centralized, government intelligence knows better than ordinary people? No way! Look at all the corruption going on in the federal government. Well over 53% of the US believe federal corruption is their #1 concern about government. That means a lot of democrats feel this way also.

If you want to take away the right of ordinary people to believe what they wish, you deserve to have your right right to believe as you wish taken away.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[gzuckier]

Uh, I would have thought that most of the cumulative CO2 is due to coal, civil engineering and metallurgy, agriculture and land use change.

"the country-level contributions to climate change are extremely sensitive to two factors: (1) the time period chosen and (2) inclusion of LUCF [land use change] (and non-CO2) emissions. Even if countries could agree on which time period to adopt, no official country-level data exists prior to 1990. Unofficial data for CO2 from fossil fuels extends back to the 1800s.However, the certainty of data covering such distant time periods is likely to be disputed. Historical data is also geographically biased, as earlier data is more likely to be available for European countries. Equally significant is the absence of virtually any country-level data for non-CO2 gases and LUCF prior to 1990." http://pdf.wri.org/navigating_...

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[gzuckier]

The problem is that areas had record cold this past winter, and "deniers" get slammed for correlating a weather event to global climate change - but when "alarmists" do the same thing, most people just nod. It is a double standard. For the record, again, before anyone gets all irate about it, I do not deny global climate change - I'm just not biased enough to be blind to the double standard.

again, both the frequency of records, high and low, and the area having such records can be quantized, and are quite amenable to rigorous statistical analysis, complete with calculations of confidence intervals, etc. It is intuitively obvious that calling out an individual record in either direction is of no value statistically, but noting that some hypothetical measure has had 253 new record highs as opposed to 1 record low in the past week is indicative of a certain shift.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[gzuckier]

The problem is that areas had record cold this past winter, and "deniers" get slammed for correlating a weather event to global climate change

Record cold can be evidence for global warming. The key is to understand what "warming" actually is: adding energy to the system. Consider a glass of water. What happens when you add energy to it by shaking it? The answer is, it sloshes around -- the maximum height of the water surface gets higher, and the minimum height gets lower. Or consider the refrigeration thermodynamic cycle: one part of the system gets colder even though the total energy of the system is increasing.

That's not to say that record cold is always evidence of global warming, or indeed that it could never be evidence of an oncoming ice age. I'm just pointing out that the issue is more complicated than "record cold = cooling" or "record heat = heating" considered in isolation. We only know that record heat actually is evidence for heating because it's been observed as part of a larger pattern and was predicted by climate models and such (i.e., all the actual science that climatologists do that a Fox News sound bite is inadequate to explain).

indeed. for an analogy; high summer temperatures in my house are correlated with very low temperatures; directly in front of my air conditioner.
in a vaguely analogous way, the shut down of the Gulf Stream observed with increased oceanic warming is going to lead to colder winters for Europe, most of which is north of NYC.
and, weirdly enough, to increased rate of sea level rise on the US east coast, since the old Gulf Stream was powerful enough to actually lower the water level there.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[gzuckier]

Okay, so when it is very cold, unseasonably it is "weather" but when it is hot, it is Global Warming. Got it.

And people wonder why we don't believe Global Warming.

No to your first paragraph, definite yes to the second.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[riverat1]

No climate model is perfect. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The lack of strong agreement between climate models and observations in the 2000s is as much a reflection of natural variability that no climate model can predict ahead of time as it is due to any problem with the climate models themselves.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Keep telling yourself that, you're not convincing anyone except yourself.

As the saying goes: Garbage in, garbage out.

Re:You made the bed. Now sleep in it.

[Anonymous Coward]

Perhaps, but it's only alarmists who are using fictional climate models to back up their hypothesis while skeptics stick to the facts, the observational data.

Re:Austrailia torturing kids Gitmo-style --

[OzPeter]

Suppressed by mainstream media --

That's funny I swore that I first read about it in the Age, which talked about a 4 corners report. And now there are calls for a royal commission. That's one hell of a suppression.

Overlooking a larger trend...

[__aaclcg7560]

The land surrounding the Persian Gulf will be uninhabitable by mid-century. The daily heat will be too hot for everyone's grandmother and camel.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[K. S. Kyosuke]

It's uninhabitable already.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[__aaclcg7560]

It's uninhabitable already.

There's quite a few cities and oil terminals that sit on the Persian Gulf. From what I read elsewhere, the daily temperatures will be so hot that people will just drop dead without an environmental suit.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[K. S. Kyosuke]

What if I drink pilsner, not oil? I demand pilsner terminals in habitable areas.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[slashkitty]

Look at the Global Warming predictions from 20 years ago. They are way over the mark. Please by all means post your dire predictions, but shut up when you're wrong. http://www.dailytech.com/After...

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[__aaclcg7560]

Dude, I don't care where you drink your piss. :P

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[Cro Magnon]

Is that a bad thing?

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[__aaclcg7560]

Please by all means post your dire predictions, but shut up when you're wrong.

I stand corrected. The Persian Gulf will become uninhabitable at the end of this century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/10/26/climate-change-could-soon-push-persian-gulf-temperatures-to-lethal-extremes-report-warns/

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[K. S. Kyosuke]

I said pilsner, not "Budweiser".

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[__aaclcg7560]

Is that a bad thing?

Only for the Europeans when the climate refugees show up on their borders.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[Anonymous Coward]

So how accurate are the deniers predictions?
So the IPCC's predictions arent perfect. The only things i ever hear from the deniers side, is that everything is normal but no actual long term forecasts.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[myowntrueself]

It's uninhabitable already.

because no beer.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[myowntrueself]

I said pilsner, not "Budweiser".

Bud would probably be better because its very close to water.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[Anonymous Coward]

The daily average temperatures of Kuwait are 42-48c and the temperature record doesn't go back to more than 70 years. So it's very likely they've had hotter than 52c several times over the past 1000 years.

So no, it's not going to become 'uninhabitable' this century nor the next nor the one after that.

I swear, this climate hysteria is making people lose their grips on reality.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[jewens]

Also know to my British friends as sex in a canoe.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[Anonymous Coward]

The people who are making those predictions aren't even climate scientists:

http://climateprospectus.org/

They appear to be a group of insurance fraudsters generating bogus models.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[Anonymous Coward]

Because we skeptics know it's impossible to make long term predictions since there's no telling what kind of events we will face in the future that will completely alter the trend.

We follow the empirical data, we don't create fictional models to push the Establishments agenda in polarizing the masses.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[gzuckier]

It's uninhabitable already.

There's quite a few cities and oil terminals that sit on the Persian Gulf. From what I read elsewhere, the daily temperatures will be so hot that people will just drop dead without an environmental suit.

and rightwingers will still be insisting that the earth is not warming, it is just a conspiracy by the liberals and those egghead climatologists, led by Al Gore.

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[gzuckier]

I said pilsner, not "Budweiser".

Bud would probably be better because its very close to water.

"but why do i have to take out flood insurance before i buy a case of Budweiser?"
"Because it's so close to water, duh"

Re:Overlooking a larger trend...

[gzuckier]

Is that a bad thing?

Only for the Europeans when the climate refugees show up on their borders.

The Danes can relocate them to Greenland.

Not even close

[Anonymous Coward]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records#Highest_temperature_ever_recorded

I am worried about falling temperatures in the Arabian desert.

"Unprecedented"

[Anonymous Coward]

Unprecedented over the last few hundred years. Coincidentally that's also the coldest part of our whole interglacial.

Not warmer than 1000, 2000 or 3000 years ago. 8000 years ago that whole region was a lush savannah.

The last interglacial was warmer still.

Tagline: Natural variability.

Re:"Unprecedented"

[Anonymous Coward]

The sequence is the problem, you fucking retard.

Re:"Unprecedented"

[Anonymous Coward]

You do realize all time points mentioned had such sequences I hope?

Re:"Unprecedented"

[K. S. Kyosuke]

What kind of lush savanna reaches 54 degrees? Not to mention that conflating local extrema with global climate is inadvisable.

Re:"Unprecedented"

[Brett Buck]

OOOH, you'll get done for heresy for that sort of comment. Never, ever, tell the emperor he has no clothes, all those praising him for decades will get very mad.

        BTW, the mean sea level was about 100 feet higher for most of Phanerozoic time until an enormous drop in fairly recent (on this scale) times.

Re:"Unprecedented"

[Troed]

I'm not sure what you reacted to in the parent post, but Sahara indeed used to be a Savannah just a few thousand years ago: http://www.livescience.com/418...

Unprecedented stuff happens all the time.

Re:"Unprecedented"

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Thank you, I had known that since I was ten. And you think that the temperature range was the the same when the area was vastly different?

Re:"Unprecedented"

[Troed]

I don't know what the OP thinks, but I don't read the post that way.

Why worry?

[GeekWithAKnife]

They have burkinis.

Re:Austrailia torturing kids Gitmo-style --

[stealth_finger]

BBC to underground for you? www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-36880860

So how long before we pass the tipping point

[Anonymous Coward]

Into a feedback loop that we can't undo?

Re:So how long before we pass the tipping point

[Anonymous Coward]

There is no such thing as a global feedback loop we can undo.

People crying over it being hot in the desert

[Anonymous Coward]

Pure LOLZ

Re:People crying over it being hot in the desert

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, it makes the penguins cry when their desert gets too hot.

For now....

[Nidi62]

And tomorrow we will see a news release from the North Korean government stating that the highest temperature ever recorded in Asia was during Dear Leader's birth, and the coldest ever recorded was at his death. Which also means they can add solving global warming to the list of his many accomplishments.

Geologically speaking

[Anonymous Coward]

We are in a cold spell for the Earth and it is warming up. Go read something other than /.

This makes voting easy

[fustakrakich]

If you're dead, or going to die soon, vote the republican (he who shall not be named) for president. If you prefer to to kick the can down to your grandkids or great grandkids, vote democrat. You will get destruction either way. One is just faster than the other.

We have a choice, people. Choose wisely.

So is the earth cooling?

[Anonymous Coward]

If the record temp was 56.7C in 1913 does that mean the earth is cooling?

Re:So is the earth cooling?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, it means California has since been moved out of Asia.

Sigh...

[Anonymous Coward]

129.2 Deg F. We don't use that crappy C. Here.

Is Slashdot the new Weather.com?

[Anonymous Coward]

Nope. Didn't think so. Best stick to technology stories.

Thanks for all the oil, here is the leftovers.....

[TiggertheMad]

it's incredible how much better some of my cousins can handle the heat better than I can. That wasn't the case when I lived there. I remember reading about it taking a few weeks for your blood to become thinner and more capillaries to grow in your skin which helps you cool off.

I am so very glad to hear that the people over there have the infrastructure and acclimation to handle it so well. They won't mind then if I crank up the thermostat another 10 degrees Fahrenheit, because it can get a little chilly up here in the north during the winters....

Ok now to maintain that temperature...

[Anonymous Coward]

The middle-east problem might solve itself... Just need containment measures to stop the nutters from migrating.

Re:Ok now to maintain that temperature...

[Anonymous Coward]

Just need containment measures to stop the nutters from migrating.

Have you been reading ANY news lately?

No wonder Muslims are so angry

[Anonymous Coward]

They spent centuries conquering the most miserable place on the planet to live.

I just might be pissed enough to invent a false homosexual child-molesting prophet and use that as a basis to go around the world killing innocent people, too.

Re:Thanks for all the oil, here is the leftovers..

[saloomy]

Not at all. Though on the same coin, being in colder climate I'm guessing causes you to acclimate in the opposite way.

So let me understand...

[argStyopa]

...in this case "weather" IS climate?

I'm never sure when it is, or when it isn't.

Because I don't recall it getting a lot of play when:
14 June 2016 -- In Vostok, temperature of -80.3 degrees was recorded.Coldest since observations began.
(http://iceagenow.info/record-cold-antarctica/)

Curious, isn't it?

Re:So let me understand...

[angel'o'sphere]

Erm are you an idiot or do you try to make an obscure joke?

Perhaps look on a map where Vostok is? And what season there is right now ... and well, what kind of 'special' season it is.

(*facepalm*)

Re:So let me understand...

[Anonymous Coward]

You damn lying turd.
The coldest _reliably_ recorded temperature record for Vostok was on 21 July 1983: -89.2C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Antarctica

You can take that crackpot website of yours and stuff it as far up where the Sun doesn't shine nearly hot enough.

Re:So let me understand...

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, these tools have been conditioned to believe that LOCAL weather anomalies are signs of climate change. They fail to realize that in order for it be to be one, it has to happen at a GLOBAL scale for an extended period of time.

Wonderful Dubai climate

[Anonymous Coward]

The most wonderful climate in the world is in Dubai, in November.

Your Sig

[vikingpower]

Youre sig has jumped to my attention before. Today, I dedided to look it up - and was confronted with a Texture.cs class. There is **so much** wrong with that code, I can't even begin to think of how to fix it. Is that fucking production code ???

Re:Your Sig

[AmiMoJo]

A "fixed" version was used in production code. Some people I know found that Silverlight was broken on Windows Embedded Compact 7, so I found that for them and they turned it into something that sort of works.

It's sold in high end industrial equipment, £10k+ per unit. It even works.

To misquote Mr. T:.

[Anonymous Coward]

I pity da space that gets filled with Earthlings!

Committee?

[slapout]

Wait. They have to set up a committee in order to check a record?

Terraforming

[angel'o'sphere]

What I don't get is why those Kingdoms don't use their wealth for something useful.

When the Roman empire broke down the Iberian peninsula was half a desert, because the romans chopped off most of the oak woods for ship building.

When the Arabs conquered it, the first thing they did was building up irrigation systems, reforming agriculture and reforesting the woods.

Can't be so hard in our times to build salt water based, evaporating channels, lakes and perhaps cataracts on which the water can evaporate, or simply build desalination plants and irrigate the land into fertility.

Cities could be like Semiramis' garden, full with green. Skyscrapers could be covered in green. If a city is basically a concrete structure with green on top, it is minimum 10C colder than it is right now.

And considering how everything there needs to be imported anyway, I can't imagine that building a 'green city' is significantly more expensive than having a copy of an american city that simply does not work in that climate.

Building a concrete desert inside of a sand desert ...

So what are they doing with their money?

49C in UAE my ass...

[Anonymous Coward]

My co-workers went to UAE and experienced temps higher than 50C based on the thermocouples they had with them... But officially, the temperature never gets higher than 49C because allegedly there's legislation that says if the temp gets >49C, businesses need to shut down and shuttle their workers home in air-conditioned buses.

All you need to know

[Geoffrey.landis]

Anyone can tell you 7 is cold and 70 is hot. What does Fahrenheit relate to? Who knows?

I would venture to guess that hardly any American would know how to dress really at 7C or 70C...they are meaningless in every day use here in the US.

30 is warm
20 is nice
10 is cool
0 is ice.

That's really all you need to know.

wow

[Anonymous Coward]

Didn't know checking a temperature was so complicated it took a committee !

"The World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) said Tuesday it is setting up a committee to look into whether the temperature recorded last Thursday in Mitrabah, Kuwait, was a new high for the eastern hemisphere and in Asia."

Can't for the life of me figure out what such a committee actually does.

Re:Austrailia torturing kids Gitmo-style --

[Rakarra]

Here's another story from the non-mainstream-media underground reporting outfit, the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...

54 c is rather hot.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's hotter than my CPU gets while compiling gentoo.

It's not dry heat

[Anonymous Coward]

The real problem is that it's not a dry heat. In the gulf states, it's not unusual for the dew point to be above 37C (body temperature) so you can get heat stroke or drown by breathing.
Sweat doesn't evaporate, etc.

Today, the temperature in Dhahran when I looked at noon PDT was about 95F, and the dewpoint was 85F. that is truly miserable.

Weights and measures in the UK

[Anonymous Coward]

It damn well is a pint.

https://www.gov.uk/weights-measures-and-packaging-the-law/specified-quantities

It's the law in the UK, enforced by Trading Standards, that if you buy a pint of beer you are actually served a pint of beer. Anything else would be fraud. If you're pouring beer in your own home then you can call it what you like, but most bottled beer in the UK is sold in pint or half-pint quantities anyway (but labelled in metric). Occasionally craft beers will come in 330ml cans.

The only goods allowed to be sold in pints or fractions thereof are draught beer and cider, and milk in returnable containers.

First of aRe:That's 129.2F if you're interested.

[angel'o'sphere]

First of all the Euro is older than a decade and secondly the Euro is the successor of the Ecu, 'European Currency Unit' which is quite old and used since the early eighties as currency for oil e.g. in international trade, and ofc in EU internal trade.

awesome!

[Gravis Zero]

It looks like FIFA found the next place to hold the World Cup! ;)

Only 54C?

[Anonymous Coward]

I know people stationed in the Persian Gulf region in the 1990's and 2000's who regularly saw temperatures above 60C. But work rules for US and UK military prohibit most work from getting done at above 135F, so they would fudge the records.