The first programmers were mostly engineers, the designers of the systems, and mightily male.
The first computers were women in World War II, who calculated artillery tables for gunners.
Before the invention of electronic computers, âoecomputerâ was a job description, not a machine. Both men and women were employed as computers, but women were more prominent in the field. This was a matter of practicality more than equality. Women were hired because there was a large pool of women with training in mathematics, but they could be hired for much less money than men with comparable training. Despite this bias, some women overcame their inferior status and contributed to the invention of the first electronic computers.
You really won't get any work as a coder unless you've done college. College however requires Calculus/Physics [...]
When I went to back to community college to learn computer programming and get my technical certifications after the dot com bust, neither calculus nor physics was ever part of a programming course. The community colleges graduates coders. The universities graduates computer scientists, who may or may not need to know more about calculus and physics.
There's also the observation that, particularly in year one, college CS seems to be a desperate attempt to get butts on seats as opposed to having any end goal.
Introduction to Computers is often a general education requirement for ALL students and the first class for students interested in a computer-related major. State funding is based on "butts on seats" per class. I found your observation to be... uninformed.
Nope. Older people will need more health care in the next 20+ years as they get older, sicker and less able to care for themselves. Young people will get encouraged to go into health care because that field will be expanding significantly, and, due to fewer workers being available, paying more money.
Did you ever consider the population had increased by 100,000,000 since the 1980s?
Please educate yourself.
IN THE 20th century the planet's population doubled twice. It will not double even once in the current century, because birth rates in much of the world have declined steeply. But the number of people over 65 is set to double within just 25 years. This shift in the structure of the population is not as momentous as the expansion that came before. But it is more than enough to reshape the world economy.
Donald Trump was a democrat until the late 80's and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clintons.
If you bothered to read your link, Donald Trump donated to both political parties. That's a smart business strategy considering the political fortunes of each party tends ebb and flow between political cycles.
Honestly, do we think we're going to need the same number of programmers or more in the next twenty years?
Yes. Baby boomers are retiring and the workforce will shrink over the next 20 years. While most young people will probably go into health care for the money, we will still need programmers and technicians.
People in sales not only need to know their product well they need to be able to answer questions on demand and often to those that know very little.
You forgot the part about sales people being pathological liars. I had a friend who sat next to me when he did a sales call. Told the other person on the phone that he was married (lie #1), had two kids (lie #2), owned a big house (lie #3), and, he then grabbed my leg, that his wife was sitting next to him (lie #4). We stopped being friends after that.
What is the life story of one author (who has his fair share of detractors when it comes to his literary prowess) meant to indicate?
Stephen King is a great writer who became wealthy through luck and circumstances. If his wife told him to put away his typewriter to get a Real Job to support his family, the literary world would be a sadder place.
By the time Lincoln stole the election (had less than 40% of the vote, the people didn't want a damn Republican ruler), that thug had no choice but to be swept away by the tidal wave created by the Democrats.
Democrats were pro-slavery and the Republicans were anti-slavery in the 1860's. That changed in the 1960's when the Democrats became pro-civil rights and the Republicans became anti-civil rights. Many white racists left the Democratic Party to become the Republicans in the 1960's. These are the same people who are rallying behind Donald Trump today. They lost in the 1860's and the 1960's, and will lose again in 2016.
Great writers don't tend to be highly intelligent (if they were, they'd get work that pays better).
Stephen King wrote several novels or so while working as a teacher during the school year and the laundromat during the summers. Most were rejected. His first published novel, "Carrie," earned him a $2,500 advance. The paperback rights got him $200,000. The rest was history.
It wouldn't be very fulfilling for someone with a brain the size of a planet to spend all their time with people who only talked about soaps and sport.
I used to put people to sleep by discussing why Adolf Hitler attacking the Russians and opening a second front during World War II led to his destruction.
Blame Bill Gates. If he built a secured operating system from the beginning, I wouldn't have the job security that comes from fixing Windows five days a week.
Seriously, how does someone break into this scene ?
Besides being extremely qualified, you need to be in the right place at the right time. That's how I got my job in government IT. Recruiter called me out of the blue. I applied for position, went through the interviews and filled out the paper work. Took six months to get everything in order. I'm finishing my second year on a prime contract that's fully funded for another three years. Although I get paid federal holidays off, 20 Paid Time Off (PTO) days per year, and a full benefit package, I'm making 40% less than I would make in a private sector job.
The same reason why my community college couldn't teach C++ and taught all flavors of Java: they didn't have the money to renew the Microsoft site license for Visual Studios (a requirement that local employers demanded). When the site license got renewed, they had to upgrade the computers to run Visual Studios.NET. That took another few years to fix. Your tax dollars at work.
When I did a PC refresh project at a Fortune 500 to replace older Dell workstations with newer Dell workstations, the engineers didn't want a Dell workstation and asked for a MacBook Pro instead. Drove the project manager from Dell up the wall whenever someone made that request.
Coddling server owners is a big part of the problem: six months to update, six-month extension to update, three-month extension to update, another three-month extension to update, 30-day notice to update, and, finally, server hardware placed on owner's desk to update.
My job has no intentions to moving to Win10 on the desktop. The priority in the data center is to migrate away from Windows Server 2003 to Windows Server 2008, 2012 or 2016, depending on the application-compatibility requirements.
Uh, seriously? Vista required new hardware to run and annoyed the hell out of users with its security features to protect users from the Internet. Win10 runs fine on the Vista-compatible hardware that I bought in 2007 and it's business as usual with desktop applications.
I'm pretty sure I can install Windows 98 even on the newest hardware sold today, so what would prevent me from using Windows 7/8 with a skylake CPU.
It's not worth the trouble. Internet Explorer and Windows Update will be broken after installation. Unless you have a Win98-compatible web browser on a USB stick, you're not going to update to the last service pack and download other software.
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The first programmers were mostly engineers, the designers of the systems, and mightily male.
The first computers were women in World War II, who calculated artillery tables for gunners.
Before the invention of electronic computers, âoecomputerâ was a job description, not a machine. Both men and women were employed as computers, but women were more prominent in the field. This was a matter of practicality more than equality. Women were hired because there was a large pool of women with training in mathematics, but they could be hired for much less money than men with comparable training. Despite this bias, some women overcame their inferior status and contributed to the invention of the first electronic computers.
http://ethw.org/Women_Computers_in_World_War_II
You really won't get any work as a coder unless you've done college. College however requires Calculus/Physics [...]
When I went to back to community college to learn computer programming and get my technical certifications after the dot com bust, neither calculus nor physics was ever part of a programming course. The community colleges graduates coders. The universities graduates computer scientists, who may or may not need to know more about calculus and physics.
There's also the observation that, particularly in year one, college CS seems to be a desperate attempt to get butts on seats as opposed to having any end goal.
Introduction to Computers is often a general education requirement for ALL students and the first class for students interested in a computer-related major. State funding is based on "butts on seats" per class. I found your observation to be... uninformed.
Were you trying to be funny?
Nope. Older people will need more health care in the next 20+ years as they get older, sicker and less able to care for themselves. Young people will get encouraged to go into health care because that field will be expanding significantly, and, due to fewer workers being available, paying more money.
Did you ever consider the population had increased by 100,000,000 since the 1980s?
Please educate yourself.
IN THE 20th century the planet's population doubled twice. It will not double even once in the current century, because birth rates in much of the world have declined steeply. But the number of people over 65 is set to double within just 25 years. This shift in the structure of the population is not as momentous as the expansion that came before. But it is more than enough to reshape the world economy.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21601248-generation-old-people-about-change-global-economy-they-will-not-all-do-so
Donald Trump was a democrat until the late 80's and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clintons.
If you bothered to read your link, Donald Trump donated to both political parties. That's a smart business strategy considering the political fortunes of each party tends ebb and flow between political cycles.
Honestly, do we think we're going to need the same number of programmers or more in the next twenty years?
Yes. Baby boomers are retiring and the workforce will shrink over the next 20 years. While most young people will probably go into health care for the money, we will still need programmers and technicians.
You essentially just described WWII in a sentence.
If I explain that one sentence to you for three hours, you will be falling asleep.
People in sales not only need to know their product well they need to be able to answer questions on demand and often to those that know very little.
You forgot the part about sales people being pathological liars. I had a friend who sat next to me when he did a sales call. Told the other person on the phone that he was married (lie #1), had two kids (lie #2), owned a big house (lie #3), and, he then grabbed my leg, that his wife was sitting next to him (lie #4). We stopped being friends after that.
Democrats were not pro-slavery you pukianz azzhole.
You must have fallen asleep in social studies class when the Civil War was being discussed.
What is the life story of one author (who has his fair share of detractors when it comes to his literary prowess) meant to indicate?
Stephen King is a great writer who became wealthy through luck and circumstances. If his wife told him to put away his typewriter to get a Real Job to support his family, the literary world would be a sadder place.
By the time Lincoln stole the election (had less than 40% of the vote, the people didn't want a damn Republican ruler), that thug had no choice but to be swept away by the tidal wave created by the Democrats.
Democrats were pro-slavery and the Republicans were anti-slavery in the 1860's. That changed in the 1960's when the Democrats became pro-civil rights and the Republicans became anti-civil rights. Many white racists left the Democratic Party to become the Republicans in the 1960's. These are the same people who are rallying behind Donald Trump today. They lost in the 1860's and the 1960's, and will lose again in 2016.
As a smart person, I post on Slashdot to annoy the idiots and assholes.
Great writers don't tend to be highly intelligent (if they were, they'd get work that pays better).
Stephen King wrote several novels or so while working as a teacher during the school year and the laundromat during the summers. Most were rejected. His first published novel, "Carrie," earned him a $2,500 advance. The paperback rights got him $200,000. The rest was history.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/53235/how-stephen-kings-wife-saved-carrie-and-launched-his-career
It wouldn't be very fulfilling for someone with a brain the size of a planet to spend all their time with people who only talked about soaps and sport.
I used to put people to sleep by discussing why Adolf Hitler attacking the Russians and opening a second front during World War II led to his destruction.
Blame Bill Gates. If he built a secured operating system from the beginning, I wouldn't have the job security that comes from fixing Windows five days a week.
Nah, it just shows how popular I'm on Slashdot.
I love my critics in the peanut gallery.
Seriously, how does someone break into this scene ?
Besides being extremely qualified, you need to be in the right place at the right time. That's how I got my job in government IT. Recruiter called me out of the blue. I applied for position, went through the interviews and filled out the paper work. Took six months to get everything in order. I'm finishing my second year on a prime contract that's fully funded for another three years. Although I get paid federal holidays off, 20 Paid Time Off (PTO) days per year, and a full benefit package, I'm making 40% less than I would make in a private sector job.
The same reason why my community college couldn't teach C++ and taught all flavors of Java: they didn't have the money to renew the Microsoft site license for Visual Studios (a requirement that local employers demanded). When the site license got renewed, they had to upgrade the computers to run Visual Studios .NET. That took another few years to fix. Your tax dollars at work.
When I did a PC refresh project at a Fortune 500 to replace older Dell workstations with newer Dell workstations, the engineers didn't want a Dell workstation and asked for a MacBook Pro instead. Drove the project manager from Dell up the wall whenever someone made that request.
Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me.
FTFY - No one wants to screw you. Not even your mother.
You're almost a year late on the 2003 transition.
Coddling server owners is a big part of the problem: six months to update, six-month extension to update, three-month extension to update, another three-month extension to update, 30-day notice to update, and, finally, server hardware placed on owner's desk to update.
My job has no intentions to moving to Win10 on the desktop. The priority in the data center is to migrate away from Windows Server 2003 to Windows Server 2008, 2012 or 2016, depending on the application-compatibility requirements.
Windows 10 is the new Vista [...]
Uh, seriously? Vista required new hardware to run and annoyed the hell out of users with its security features to protect users from the Internet. Win10 runs fine on the Vista-compatible hardware that I bought in 2007 and it's business as usual with desktop applications.
I'm pretty sure I can install Windows 98 even on the newest hardware sold today, so what would prevent me from using Windows 7/8 with a skylake CPU.
It's not worth the trouble. Internet Explorer and Windows Update will be broken after installation. Unless you have a Win98-compatible web browser on a USB stick, you're not going to update to the last service pack and download other software.
Windows 7 is Windows XP of the enterprise environment. No one upgrading to another version of Windows any time soon.