Hey, calm down, tigers! I wasn't actually trying to imply anything about Linux's security, viral susceptability or anything along those lines! I was just trying to look at the situation from a business rather than holy war perspective. It's all about perception at the PHB level, not truth. Linux doesn't really have too much budget for marketing, by comparison to some (geez, I even saw a TV ad for Cisco last night!). All I was trying to do was show that here's a chance to capitalise on this, much the same as MS, Apple, Sun, Oracle etc would. Because like it or not, Linux must make more inroads into business to become really good. And I'm not thinking of a commercial hijack, just that the more people use Linux, then that's more coders, testers and documentors who can contribute. And that will translate into more freedom of choice. And isn't that what it's all about? BTW, this virus at Dell made the front page of the London Financial Times this morning. Oh yes.
"Had the European powers in the post WWI era not made the peace so unbearable for the majority of Germans" Wasn't exactly a picnic for the rest of Europe at that time, you know. Especially if you were Jewish. "Geez, we actually helped to rebuild Europe and Asia after the war! I love it when Europeans stand with their hands out" Ummm - so why the UK is STILL paying off the US for stuff you lent us during WWII? And quit lumping us all together. As a matter of fact, I'm well against the European Community (EC), I'd far rather trade with more international markets. And the EC used to be the EEC - European Economic Community - the E was dropped silently... "I wouldn't want a lot of you guys behind me in a bar fight, that's for sure..." We'd be in front of you, anyway. Unless you were being an arse...
"make my WHOLE post untrue" Nope, that's the only point I personally could verify as incorrect. And if you weren't sure of it, don't post it. Because when you do make a valid point in the middle of inaccuracies & fiction, people will ignore it. Hmmm. "Helping" during the Falklands wartime? You stood by us during the UN meetings when they were determining what to do (which was nothing). Different reaction by the UN over Kuwait, hey? Maybe that'll be the oil thing kicking in...
"ANTI-WAR movement [...] we have had no such problems since." Hmmm... Hanoi Jane? Or did you conveniently forget the peace initiatives during Vietnam?
"emboldened the animal to start becoming agressive in the first place?" Actually, it was mostly the fact that all the armies in Europe at that time had seriously tooled up their armies, and made a few strategic alliances with each other prior to WW I. After a minor international incident, all the countries were drawn into WW I. Hitler then had some serious social pressures going on in Germany leading up to WWII - if the UK hadn't gotten involved, Hitler would've invaded Poland far earlier. "Grenada, the Mideast, and Panama when we thought it was necessary." And all of those Arabic & southern American countries when it wasn't... And you gotta admit Panama was more to protect shipping than human rights.
"The FunLove virus infects both desktop computers and computer servers running Windows 95, 98 and Windows NT operating systems." Another one in the eye for Billy G! Excellent PR for Microsoft (not!)- this will surely make the financial pages of international media. PHB's don't really understand stuff like "inherently weak security model", they just believe the Redmond spin doctors advice. But £14 Million, now that's something that will get their attention. Hear that mindshare slowly deflating in your bosses brain... OTOH, it's bad news for Dell - they were doing well, last time I saw an article posted on/. about them. Maybe this will mean they push their preinstalled linux boxes a bit harder!:)
"While I generally like Europeans and Canadians, you guys would roll over for any dictator or Totalitarian lot." Yeah, just like the UK did when Hitler invaded Poland. Whilst the US stood by and did nothing until the Nazi threat became too large to ignore. Have you ever read any history? I don't mean to disrespect your country or nationalism, but please do a little reading before you post inflammatory crap like this.
"the British for beating up on poor lowly Argentina (oops, we helped them in that)" Actually, you didn't. Haig was used as a running boy by the UK to try & negotiate with the Argentinians. The only military action the USA was involved in was in the 1830's, in retaliation for something or other. There's a brief history lesson here for your education. Or just check a world map, compare the physical size of the UK vs Argentina. Woo, those bully boy Brits throwing their weight around protecting part of the UK - much as you might expect the US government to defend Hawaii, if attacked and occupied by a foreign power. "Anti-Americanism is so frequent lately on/." Might I suggest that you make things better by portraying yourself & fellow countrymen in a better light? Like by posting things that are actually true, instead of this pile of troll faeces?
"Most of us just sit and watch in amusement as the MS world infects itself." Most? I'd bet the majority of/. readers use MS at work and a Linux box at home. So quit the "I'm alright, Jack" mentality, OK? Just because you don't get affected, don't assume everybody else won't - I don't mean you getting directly infected, but having to clean up after John Luser got sent something. You've obviously never been infected by any quickly replicating virus; when that happens, you say goodbye to your next 48 hours. Fine if it's your PC, not so good if it's your office's network. "It really isn't interesting, so why post about it?" Depends on what you do. If you wear sandals, have a beard, and are horrendously condescending, then you probably run SCO or Solaris and are not interested in the machinations of MS and "the MS world", apart from some smug sort of justification of your OS. Face it, someone you know must run MS. Would you rather know about this, so you can help other people who might not be so IT savvy, or assume your granny who runs W98 (so she can play Unreal:) knows there's a threat to her PC?
"neither news for nerds?" You've obviously never read up on viruses. Get a book, read up. Plenty of nerd material there; self modifying programs, mutating code, understanding & exploiting OS features & holes. Just because you think you've got a handle on your security, doesn't mean everybody else does. Slashdot is read by all people from all walks of life; grow up a bit and start accepting not all people on Slashdot are IT gurus, and realise that/. is a far more interesting place for it.
Engineers working on the Hubble space telescope are reporting their initial findings, according to the a Reliable News Service. The first engineer on the scene is quoted as seeing: "Microslop Hubble Space Telescope OS V1.0" License has expired, please contact your Microslop representative for upgrade. Or pressurise the DoJ into getting it's teeth out of Bills' arse for continued operation of this Microslop installation." The screen is a calming shade of blue. Engineers have been equipped with a LILO boot disk and some downloaded copies of the world famous Linux Operating System; it is expected that the newly equipped Hubble telescope will now run 15% faster. "Kernel tweaks", a computer nerd term for messing with Linux's internal operation (also know by some as "make and pray") will be applied remotely by Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux to the world and "Saint Linus" to Linux users. Upon mission completion, it is expected that Torvalds will be unequivocably given a Nobel prize, and more than likely a knighthood. Following the Linux installation, resources hogged by the previous OS will be utilised to run pattern matching algorithms for new star clusters, analyse SETI-like data on the fly, solve world hunger, bring about world peace, and provide a correct answer to the question "does my bum look big in this?"
This is bad news for Linux, but not for the reasons noted in previous posts. Face it, how many of you fellow nerds out there are regularly consulted on HW/SW choices? And even if you are consulted, you will probably be overruled. Like it or not, your PHB controls the purse strings. And (s)he won't be in a position to explain why "free" is better than "corporate standard" to the Directors' Board, until more people understand what Linux is. Most non-nerds don't give a toss about what their servers are, just as long as they keep files & send mail, and let them look at web sites. This is what we need to focus on. OK, NT beat Linux in a staged test. That's fine, gives the kernel dev team somewhere to aim their efforts. But for the non-nerds, all they take away from this is "NT is better than Linux". I'm not going to go into whether the test was fair or real world representative, just that people see NT beating Linux. The problem here is the PR, getting the users & PHB's clued up a little on what goes on when they click their mouse buttons. The MS juggernaut has all of the tricks (and has been caught for a few of them:) to keep NT in the minds of those who make software policy in business. And unless RedHat starts investing some of that whacking great IPO in advertising (haven't seen _any_ in the UK), to get the message across, then this sort of thing is the only press which people see Red Hat in. And that will be bad for Red Hat and Linux in general.
It does mean that going back to NZ can mean giving the appearance of being fantastically rich : ) Yep, I can vouch for that. I work with a few Kiwis, and they all have the same plan. Work their 2 year visa, then straight back home with some serious dough to buy a house / car with. My girlfriend is South African, (and she's lovely:); you can work for 2 years here (now only 1 due to recent visa changes) and go home with a few grand. But £5,000 can buy you a lot in SA, good house & car, pay off your education debts. The exchange rate is about SAR10 to UK£1, can't wait to go on holiday:) This accounts for the unfeasible number of antipodeans living in London!
On stock options - check the terms & conditions. UK companies are quite savvy to this, and your exercise period (ie when you can cash them in) can be up to 5 years, on the condition that you must still be working at that company. 5 years is a _long_ time to be working for one company for in the IT industry, and you may find after 4 years your new boss is Satan's little helper...
People in London are miserable gits Not true!!! I'm as cheerful as they come:) But I do take your point - no one makes idle conversation on the Tube...:)
A quality nerd in London (in the financial sector) can make £20-50K without being a contractor. The huge range in pay is all in how much business knowledge you have - being able to correctly price a swap (and be able to code that) is worth a lot to these people... But be warned, traders are a fiery lot, and jobs are quite hire & fire...
"It seems to me that the British missed a chance to be the dominate power in the world of computing. "
Actually, I think we were too busy rebuilding our cities and grieving for our dead to be too worried about what was then an abstract concept. Rationing (of food, petrol, heating oil etc) in the UK continued way after the end of WWII; the economy was shot to bits (all the skilled workers were either still being demobilised or were dead), there was a whole load of social issues to deal with (repatriation of evacuees to their parents, broken homes because fathers were buried on French soil, although many positive things such as increased emancipation of women). And none of this economic & social turmoil was helped by the USA demanding payment for equipment loans, based solely on the fact that Churchill's Conservatives lost to (Chamberlain's? Might be wrong - correct me pls!) the Labour party, whose socialist policies offended the sensibilities of the president even before any were enacted.
On another note, which is timely and relevant - after WW II, Germany (a monopoly) was divided into East and West by what was effectively the Department of World Justice. West Germany went on to become a great economic power in Europe. And not more than 10 years ago they merged back again! US DoJ, read your history!
I'd love to know what _really_ happened with the Philadelphia Experiment... Was Einstein's Unified Field Theory full of it, or did the great man foresee an application that he could not live with?
ULTRA was a combination of US and British technological superiority over Germany and Japan. Ummm, I think you're way off here. Sentence should read "British and US", IMHO. Originally, most nations believed the US had developed some sort of "advanced RADAR" Actually, the development of RADAR was never attributed to any one individual. The UK was the first to use it effectively, however, see here for more details.
The whole tone of your essay seemed to overplay the US's part in this. I love the way everybody (including our supposed partners in the EU) seems to have forgotten that the UK is still paying the US back for equipment loans during WWII.
Tomorrow will be 11/11/1999. Wear your poppy with pride. Without the selfless acts of our forebears, there'd sure as hell be no Linux, and you'd probably all be running MikroWeiche Windows.
Yep, me too. I've got a set and they are amazing playing Unreal!!! The whole floor shakes if you give the bass a little tweak... You get cute little tripods to mount the speakers on, as well.
Yeah, I agree. I hate spanking hard earnt moderator (tu-wisted moderat-ah... Cooooo-me maaaaaark myyyy po--sts, slashdot surfing addict insane! - need to lay off the Prodigy, I think:) points on useless first posts. I've noticed recently with provocative issues (Roblimos' lovers guide, MS's legal troubles etc) that comments run to 375+ in number. Is there a constant calculated along the lines of
Arbitrary constant = Total number of comments today / Total Moderator points available
In these big discussions, I've found that the first 100 or so comments are moderated, the rest seem to be ignored. I've lost count of posts which I thought were worthy of a high score, only they have not been moderated up because they weren't posted in the first 100... So I think the proposal for M3 should include something like forcing nested or flat mode for moderators when browsing, and maybe prevent the average number of moderator points expended in any quartile (by timestamp) of comments exceed that of any other quartile by an arbitrary constant (50% maybe?). I'd also like to see two additional moderation classes - "Lame First Post" (you should get your moderation point back for this - but abuse of it should put you on a moderator black list) and "Offtopic But Interesting"...
What do you guys think? How is the moderator system working for you?
How much of the criticism you have received at the hands of the online community do you think is deserved? Do you feel you have been hard done by? Or did you intentionally start stirring up a community that can sometimes disappear up it's own arse? How real is your fear of reprisals? I mean, everything from fearing a wannabe scriptkiddie waiting in your alleyway with a stolen.45 magnum, all the way through to a cracker breaking into AntiOnline? Do you feel that the fact that AntiOnlines "uncracked" status proves your worth as a security expert? I love reading the "hack attempts on this site" section, BTW...
"a landmark judicial effort to begin writing Net law." Just what part of this case really has to do with the Net? This is about business and industry, not IP stacks and HTML tags. Yes, MS did have an underhand strategy wrt the Net with Internet Destroyer, but that's not where JJ is aiming at. It's the predatory practices MS have used in the marketplace, not cyberspace - it's the fact they were aiming the gun, not what bullet they used. The effect would be the same if MS were in the market of toilet roll holders; holding down your competitors whilst screwing your customers.
"Microsoft will be preoccupied for a bit. The Judge's findings were not a final decision in the case." Finally, some sense. A pity that few on the Net seem to have realised this, and far fewer on/. . MS are far too entrenched in the IT world; they still have the minds of our PHB's whose last objective memory of MS (ie before they were promoted to PHB's) was when MS put out reasonable software at a reasonable price. There is no cause for celebration until management stop thinking "Well, nobody got fired for buying MicroSoft". MS must be seen for what it truly is - a massive risk in enterprise wide deployment. This risk is perceived as a lower risk, as all project management projections have "MS time" built in - the 2 week contingency you need on rollout dates for when NT servers refuse to talk to each other for no identifiable reason. This is a time when high-profile deployments of stable systems will have the most positive net effect - "hey - we just did the whole office out with new PC's and we've still got 2 weeks left on the project!!! We'll use the time to fine tune the network - by profiling it with multi-player Quake!".
"[This is]... the demarcation between one period and, suddenly, another." No, it isn't. I still arrived at work this morning, booted my NT4.0 workstation, fired up MS Exchange, and connected to my NT Server. Where's the difference? And according to my trader associates, the stock price shuffle on MSFT is just "noise" at the minute (although they are expecting some profitablility in convertible bonds if MS are broken up in the future). After this morning's Y2K strategy meeting, I had a hard time putting a Linux and Apache Webserver (powered by Cobalt!) business case together for my clients who wish for a Web presence - "but we already run NT - it will cost too much to switch operating systems". Other OS's need to up their marketing games in a big way for the next couple of months.
What Katzs' article neatly sidesteps (in spite of it's title) is an attempt to predict what will happen over the next 6 months. Seeing as he doesn't appear have the balls, here's my musings:
MS will be given a severe beating on their corporate bottoms. On bare skin. I don't think they will be forced to split up, but an enforced code of practice will be placed on them. And rigourously applied - non conformance may result in an order to cease trading.
*BSD will fail to capitalise on this.
RedHat, Caldera and Be should gear up their publicity machines if they want to make any inroads into MS territory. Now is the time to get those prime time ads into corporate consciousness.
MS will essentially be in hiatus until settlement is reached. Expect a lot of noise in the boardroom, sackings et al.
Apple still have Bill lodged firmly up them. Steve Jobs can either play nice with MS, and "help" them just like MS "helped" Apple. Or they can try to sever most ties with MS, and sink or swim on their own merit.
It will be at least 3 years before any effect of the DOJ's ruling will be felt.
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Hey, calm down, tigers!
I wasn't actually trying to imply anything about Linux's security, viral susceptability or anything along those lines!
I was just trying to look at the situation from a business rather than holy war perspective. It's all about perception at the PHB level, not truth. Linux doesn't really have too much budget for marketing, by comparison to some (geez, I even saw a TV ad for Cisco last night!). All I was trying to do was show that here's a chance to capitalise on this, much the same as MS, Apple, Sun, Oracle etc would. Because like it or not, Linux must make more inroads into business to become really good. And I'm not thinking of a commercial hijack, just that the more people use Linux, then that's more coders, testers and documentors who can contribute. And that will translate into more freedom of choice. And isn't that what it's all about?
BTW, this virus at Dell made the front page of the London Financial Times this morning. Oh yes.
"Had the European powers in the post WWI era not made the peace so unbearable for the majority of Germans"
Wasn't exactly a picnic for the rest of Europe at that time, you know. Especially if you were Jewish.
"Geez, we actually helped to rebuild Europe and Asia after the war! I love it when Europeans stand with their hands out"
Ummm - so why the UK is STILL paying off the US for stuff you lent us during WWII? And quit lumping us all together. As a matter of fact, I'm well against the European Community (EC), I'd far rather trade with more international markets. And the EC used to be the EEC - European Economic Community - the E was dropped silently...
"I wouldn't want a lot of you guys behind me in a bar fight, that's for sure..."
We'd be in front of you, anyway. Unless you were being an arse...
"make my WHOLE post untrue"
Nope, that's the only point I personally could verify as incorrect. And if you weren't sure of it, don't post it. Because when you do make a valid point in the middle of inaccuracies & fiction, people will ignore it.
Hmmm. "Helping" during the Falklands wartime? You stood by us during the UN meetings when they were determining what to do (which was nothing). Different reaction by the UN over Kuwait, hey?
Maybe that'll be the oil thing kicking in...
"ANTI-WAR movement [...] we have had no such problems since."
Hmmm... Hanoi Jane? Or did you conveniently forget the peace initiatives during Vietnam?
"emboldened the animal to start becoming agressive in the first place?"
Actually, it was mostly the fact that all the armies in Europe at that time had seriously tooled up their armies, and made a few strategic alliances with each other prior to WW I. After a minor international incident, all the countries were drawn into WW I. Hitler then had some serious social pressures going on in Germany leading up to WWII - if the UK hadn't gotten involved, Hitler would've invaded Poland far earlier.
"Grenada, the Mideast, and Panama when we thought it was necessary."
And all of those Arabic & southern American countries when it wasn't... And you gotta admit Panama was more to protect shipping than human rights.
"The FunLove virus infects both desktop computers and computer servers running Windows 95, 98 and Windows NT operating systems." /. about them. Maybe this will mean they push their preinstalled linux boxes a bit harder! :)
Another one in the eye for Billy G! Excellent PR for Microsoft (not!)- this will surely make the financial pages of international media. PHB's don't really understand stuff like "inherently weak security model", they just believe the Redmond spin doctors advice. But £14 Million, now that's something that will get their attention. Hear that mindshare slowly deflating in your bosses brain...
OTOH, it's bad news for Dell - they were doing well, last time I saw an article posted on
"While I generally like Europeans and Canadians, you guys would roll over for any dictator or Totalitarian lot."
Yeah, just like the UK did when Hitler invaded Poland. Whilst the US stood by and did nothing until the Nazi threat became too large to ignore. Have you ever read any history?
I don't mean to disrespect your country or nationalism, but please do a little reading before you post inflammatory crap like this.
"the British for beating up on poor lowly Argentina (oops, we helped them in that)" /."
Actually, you didn't. Haig was used as a running boy by the UK to try & negotiate with the Argentinians. The only military action the USA was involved in was in the 1830's, in retaliation for something or other. There's a brief history lesson here for your education. Or just check a world map, compare the physical size of the UK vs Argentina. Woo, those bully boy Brits throwing their weight around protecting part of the UK - much as you might expect the US government to defend Hawaii, if attacked and occupied by a foreign power.
"Anti-Americanism is so frequent lately on
Might I suggest that you make things better by portraying yourself & fellow countrymen in a better light? Like by posting things that are actually true, instead of this pile of troll faeces?
So if the Kama sutra is for what you pleasing the wife, is the Diamond sutra what you need to read to get her to be your wife? :)
"Most of us just sit and watch in amusement as the MS world infects itself." /. readers use MS at work and a Linux box at home. So quit the "I'm alright, Jack" mentality, OK? Just because you don't get affected, don't assume everybody else won't - I don't mean you getting directly infected, but having to clean up after John Luser got sent something. You've obviously never been infected by any quickly replicating virus; when that happens, you say goodbye to your next 48 hours. Fine if it's your PC, not so good if it's your office's network. :) knows there's a threat to her PC?
/. is a far more interesting place for it.
Most? I'd bet the majority of
"It really isn't interesting, so why post about it?"
Depends on what you do. If you wear sandals, have a beard, and are horrendously condescending, then you probably run SCO or Solaris and are not interested in the machinations of MS and "the MS world", apart from some smug sort of justification of your OS. Face it, someone you know must run MS. Would you rather know about this, so you can help other people who might not be so IT savvy, or assume your granny who runs W98 (so she can play Unreal
"neither news for nerds?"
You've obviously never read up on viruses. Get a book, read up. Plenty of nerd material there; self modifying programs, mutating code, understanding & exploiting OS features & holes.
Just because you think you've got a handle on your security, doesn't mean everybody else does. Slashdot is read by all people from all walks of life; grow up a bit and start accepting not all people on Slashdot are IT gurus, and realise that
And yes, I did preview it!
Engineers working on the Hubble space telescope are reporting their initial findings, according to the a Reliable News Service. The first engineer on the scene is quoted as seeing: "Microslop Hubble Space Telescope OS V1.0" License has expired, please contact your Microslop representative for upgrade. Or pressurise the DoJ into getting it's teeth out of Bills' arse for continued operation of this Microslop installation." The screen is a calming shade of blue. Engineers have been equipped with a LILO boot disk and some downloaded copies of the world famous Linux Operating System; it is expected that the newly equipped Hubble telescope will now run 15% faster. "Kernel tweaks", a computer nerd term for messing with Linux's internal operation (also know by some as "make and pray") will be applied remotely by Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux to the world and "Saint Linus" to Linux users. Upon mission completion, it is expected that Torvalds will be unequivocably given a Nobel prize, and more than likely a knighthood. Following the Linux installation, resources hogged by the previous OS will be utilised to run pattern matching algorithms for new star clusters, analyse SETI-like data on the fly, solve world hunger, bring about world peace, and provide a correct answer to the question "does my bum look big in this?"
This is bad news for Linux, but not for the reasons noted in previous posts. :) to keep NT in the minds of those who make software policy in business. And unless RedHat starts investing some of that whacking great IPO in advertising (haven't seen _any_ in the UK), to get the message across, then this sort of thing is the only press which people see Red Hat in. And that will be bad for Red Hat and Linux in general.
Face it, how many of you fellow nerds out there are regularly consulted on HW/SW choices? And even if you are consulted, you will probably be overruled. Like it or not, your PHB controls the purse strings. And (s)he won't be in a position to explain why "free" is better than "corporate standard" to the Directors' Board, until more people understand what Linux is. Most non-nerds don't give a toss about what their servers are, just as long as they keep files & send mail, and let them look at web sites. This is what we need to focus on.
OK, NT beat Linux in a staged test. That's fine, gives the kernel dev team somewhere to aim their efforts. But for the non-nerds, all they take away from this is "NT is better than Linux". I'm not going to go into whether the test was fair or real world representative, just that people see NT beating Linux.
The problem here is the PR, getting the users & PHB's clued up a little on what goes on when they click their mouse buttons. The MS juggernaut has all of the tricks (and has been caught for a few of them
It does mean that going back to NZ can mean giving the appearance of being fantastically rich : ) :); you can work for 2 years here (now only 1 due to recent visa changes) and go home with a few grand. But £5,000 can buy you a lot in SA, good house & car, pay off your education debts. :)
Yep, I can vouch for that. I work with a few Kiwis, and they all have the same plan. Work their 2 year visa, then straight back home with some serious dough to buy a house / car with.
My girlfriend is South African, (and she's lovely
The exchange rate is about SAR10 to UK£1, can't wait to go on holiday
This accounts for the unfeasible number of antipodeans living in London!
How did you manage to swing a work permit, though?
On stock options - check the terms & conditions. UK companies are quite savvy to this, and your exercise period (ie when you can cash them in) can be up to 5 years, on the condition that you must still be working at that company. 5 years is a _long_ time to be working for one company for in the IT industry, and you may find after 4 years your new boss is Satan's little helper...
People in London are miserable gits :)
Not true!!! I'm as cheerful as they come
But I do take your point - no one makes idle conversation on the Tube...:)
A quality nerd in London (in the financial sector) can make £20-50K without being a contractor. The huge range in pay is all in how much business knowledge you have - being able to correctly price a swap (and be able to code that) is worth a lot to these people... But be warned, traders are a fiery lot, and jobs are quite hire & fire...
"It seems to me that the British missed a chance to be the dominate power in the world of computing. "
Actually, I think we were too busy rebuilding our cities and grieving for our dead to be too worried about what was then an abstract concept.
Rationing (of food, petrol, heating oil etc) in the UK continued way after the end of WWII; the economy was shot to bits (all the skilled workers were either still being demobilised or were dead), there was a whole load of social issues to deal with (repatriation of evacuees to their parents, broken homes because fathers were buried on French soil, although many positive things such as increased emancipation of women).
And none of this economic & social turmoil was helped by the USA demanding payment for equipment loans, based solely on the fact that Churchill's Conservatives lost to (Chamberlain's? Might be wrong - correct me pls!) the Labour party, whose socialist policies offended the sensibilities of the president even before any were enacted.
On another note, which is timely and relevant - after WW II, Germany (a monopoly) was divided into East and West by what was effectively the Department of World Justice.
West Germany went on to become a great economic power in Europe. And not more than 10 years ago they merged back again! US DoJ, read your history!
I'd love to know what _really_ happened with the Philadelphia Experiment... Was Einstein's Unified Field Theory full of it, or did the great man foresee an application that he could not live with?
ULTRA was a combination of US and British technological superiority over Germany and Japan.
Ummm, I think you're way off here. Sentence should read "British and US", IMHO.
Originally, most nations believed the US had developed some sort of "advanced RADAR"
Actually, the development of RADAR was never attributed to any one individual. The UK was the first to use it effectively, however, see here for more details.
The whole tone of your essay seemed to overplay the US's part in this. I love the way everybody (including our supposed partners in the EU) seems to have forgotten that the UK is still paying the US back for equipment loans during WWII.
Tomorrow will be 11/11/1999. Wear your poppy with pride. Without the selfless acts of our forebears, there'd sure as hell be no Linux, and you'd probably all be running MikroWeiche Windows.
Yep, me too. I've got a set and they are amazing playing Unreal!!! The whole floor shakes if you give the bass a little tweak...
You get cute little tripods to mount the speakers on, as well.
Yeah, I agree. I hate spanking hard earnt moderator (tu-wisted moderat-ah... Cooooo-me maaaaaark myyyy po--sts, slashdot surfing addict insane! - need to lay off the Prodigy, I think :) points on useless first posts.
I've noticed recently with provocative issues (Roblimos' lovers guide, MS's legal troubles etc) that comments run to 375+ in number. Is there a constant calculated along the lines of
Arbitrary constant = Total number of comments today / Total Moderator points available
In these big discussions, I've found that the first 100 or so comments are moderated, the rest seem to be ignored. I've lost count of posts which I thought were worthy of a high score, only they have not been moderated up because they weren't posted in the first 100... So I think the proposal for M3 should include something like forcing nested or flat mode for moderators when browsing, and maybe prevent the average number of moderator points expended in any quartile (by timestamp) of comments exceed that of any other quartile by an arbitrary constant (50% maybe?).
I'd also like to see two additional moderation classes - "Lame First Post" (you should get your moderation point back for this - but abuse of it should put you on a moderator black list) and "Offtopic But Interesting"...
What do you guys think? How is the moderator system working for you?
Nope. :)
You should sue their lily white arses, it being America and all...
Couldn't have said it better myself. I always thought /. was a place for intelligent discussion, not mindless kneejerking and childish tantrums.
And I am still the geek who whipped your lily white arse in front of the entire school. I'm waiting for you by the schoolgates tonight...
How much of the criticism you have received at the hands of the online community do you think is deserved? Do you feel you have been hard done by? Or did you intentionally start stirring up a community that can sometimes disappear up it's own arse? .45 magnum, all the way through to a cracker breaking into AntiOnline? Do you feel that the fact that AntiOnlines "uncracked" status proves your worth as a security expert? I love reading the "hack attempts on this site" section, BTW...
How real is your fear of reprisals? I mean, everything from fearing a wannabe scriptkiddie waiting in your alleyway with a stolen
Just what part of this case really has to do with the Net? This is about business and industry, not IP stacks and HTML tags.
Yes, MS did have an underhand strategy wrt the Net with Internet Destroyer, but that's not where JJ is aiming at. It's the predatory practices MS have used in the marketplace, not cyberspace - it's the fact they were aiming the gun, not what bullet they used. The effect would be the same if MS were in the market of toilet roll holders; holding down your competitors whilst screwing your customers.
"Microsoft will be preoccupied for a bit. The Judge's findings were not a final decision in the case."
Finally, some sense. A pity that few on the Net seem to have realised this, and far fewer on
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No, it isn't. I still arrived at work this morning, booted my NT4.0 workstation, fired up MS Exchange, and connected to my NT Server. Where's the difference? And according to my trader associates, the stock price shuffle on MSFT is just "noise" at the minute (although they are expecting some profitablility in convertible bonds if MS are broken up in the future).
After this morning's Y2K strategy meeting, I had a hard time putting a Linux and Apache Webserver (powered by Cobalt!) business case together for my clients who wish for a Web presence - "but we already run NT - it will cost too much to switch operating systems". Other OS's need to up their marketing games in a big way for the next couple of months.
What Katzs' article neatly sidesteps (in spite of it's title) is an attempt to predict what will happen over the next 6 months.
Seeing as he doesn't appear have the balls, here's my musings:
MS will be given a severe beating on their corporate bottoms. On bare skin. I don't think they will be forced to split up, but an enforced code of practice will be placed on them. And rigourously applied - non conformance may result in an order to cease trading.
*BSD will fail to capitalise on this.
RedHat, Caldera and Be should gear up their publicity machines if they want to make any inroads into MS territory. Now is the time to get those prime time ads into corporate consciousness.
MS will essentially be in hiatus until settlement is reached. Expect a lot of noise in the boardroom, sackings et al.
Apple still have Bill lodged firmly up them. Steve Jobs can either play nice with MS, and "help" them just like MS "helped" Apple. Or they can try to sever most ties with MS, and sink or swim on their own merit.
It will be at least 3 years before any effect of the DOJ's ruling will be felt.