There is no useful "analysis" in that post. Your "BS" detector apparently needs calibration since the post you responded to is almost entirely BS and you didn't detect that.
Are you having a flashback comrade? Maybe this will help. Circa 1973 - Did you hear about the very sincere Armenian students? They went to a learned professor and asked, "Is it truly possible to build communism in Armenia?" "Yes," replied the professor, "but why not do it to the Georgians first?" Snowden's actions are like communism, despite the many touted "glories" of it, better that they happen to someone else. I'll nominate China, or maybe Russia now that they are back to seizing the lands of others to add to the glory of Russia.
As to being an "NSA asshole," I truly hope that you someday break the conditioning of your Soviet youth to realize that not everyone thinks alike in the West. Some of us are actually right even if we are not a member of "the party," an apparatchik, or a member of the "dark forces."
No, I can confirm I've heard similar rationalising. Everything from getting embarrassed and changing the subject to "That part doesn't apply in today's modern age"
How do you rationalise it to yourself if it isn't the bury your head in the sand technique?
I think that we could agree that it is possible to know the right answer to a question or problem, but not know how it was derived. Some of what you refer to is that simple: right answer, don't know how it was obtained. There is a lot of that in society since few people go to the trouble of deriving all knowledge from first principles themselves.
But lets be a little more specific about some of the factors that would come into play. One of them is the body of law involved. The Bible contains many sets of rules or laws, some of which only apply in specific circumstances. For example, there are rules that apply specifically to worship by priests in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. As you may well know, the 2nd temple was destroyed nearly 2,000 years ago and hasn't been rebuilt since. If you aren't a Jewish priest conducting worship in the Jewish temple that has yet to be rebuilt in Jerusalem then those laws would never apply to you. I will also note that there is only one place where the temple can be built according to the law, and that place is currently occupied by the Dome of the Rock, the third holiest place in Islam. The bottom line is that the purpose and scope of the law matters. The Ten Commandments are generally applicable, the laws governing Jewish priests conducting worship are very narrow in scope.
Beyond the question of the body of law and the applicability is the earthly ministry of Jesus, the Christ. The purpose of the sacrifices made in the Jewish temple were in essence as payment for breaking God's laws, for sinning. Christians believe that the death of Jesus on the cross was the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of humanity and whoever believes in Him as savior has their sins forgiven. As a result Christians are not obligated to have sacrifices made to pay for their sins in the temple. Various other laws would also not apply for a similar reason.
You can find explanations of the sacrifice that Jesus made and its meaning here or here.
Those events are apparently to be taken literally, but they don't constitute some sort of general moral command like the Ten Commandments. You aren't expected to go assault either Jericho or the Philistines today. I'm not sure why you would be confused about that.
If God is God, and the creator of the universe, then God gets to set the rules. Mass killing isn't necessarily mass murder.
If you've ever actually read the Bible you may want to consider trying it again with a study Bible since it would both enrich your understanding and provide useful linkages. It looks to be like you are either missing a lot or creating greater difficulties for yourself by misunderstandings.
There is a meaningful difference between a general idea of it and specific knowledge of what happened or was accessed.
Think of the difference between, "somebody in the city doesn't like you," and "your neighbor Bob plans to burn down your house while you are asleep at 11:30 PM tomorrow using a case of Molotov cocktails that are already prepared and are sitting in his garage." Do you think there is a difference in the action you could take based on those two scenarios?
Snowden claimed to be an expert about China and espionage. When do you think we'll see some information about that? Or will the trend of only releasing information the compromises intelligence methods and activities of the US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and their allies continue?
He is indeed the rarest of "patriots," exposing only the intelligence plans of his own country and its allies, and not those of its adversaries.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[
There seems to be historical and documentary evidence that freedom of religion was important in the founding of the US.
No, what I mean is what I wrote: running charities, food shelves, hospitals, orphanages, and so on. Developing academic knowledge of the variance in protein content of a particular wheat variety doesn't actually feed people. You have to give them food for them to be fed. Developing a better bonding process for shingles so that they last 30 years instead of 25 years doesn't actually house people. You have to give them a place to sleep in a building for them to be housed. Scientific work is both useful and important, but it is not the only important work.
Many of the so called "modern ideas" are simply restatements of bad old ideas. But perhaps you can tell me, when the principle of treat people as you wish to be treated, or love your neighbor, become obsolete?
Two things. First, there are many scientific organizations that are already tax exempt. Being a scientific organization is one of the major listed justifications for tax exempt status - assuming the other criteria are met. So in that regard they are already equal.
Second, maybe we can consider changes once all of the science organizations start running various charities, food shelves, hospitals, orphanages, offering weekly moral instruction to children, and so on. Even then you won't have replaced the role of the church in society.
The great and famous German physicist Max Planck had this to say:
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Do you think they go peacefully? Or are you predisposed to your own answer?
They no doubt had a specific mission, we just don't know what that is. We do know the types of mission they are doctrinally prepared to execute. They would only be "in and out" if that is what the mission called for. If their mission was keeps eyes on Ukrainian security forces and report they would be staying until no longer needed, wouldn't they? If their mission was to stir up civil unrest they probably wouldn't just be "in and out" since that take time. If their mission was to infiltrate and be prepared to commit sabotage, or capture or kill Ukrainian leaders they wouldn't be "in and out." It doesn't look like the Russian special forces in Crimea, Ukraine, have left yet. They are in but not out.
I'm puzzled why you think that multiple fake IDs would not be useful in a modern society for covert operations? You're willing to believe that fake IDs can be handed out by Russia to people in Ukraine, but not to Russians going to Ukraine?
At this point I'm not sure where we can go with the conversation. You seem committed to believing that Russian special forces can be found in one part of Ukraine, but not another. That doesn't really seem logical. Part of the art of war?
The July 1994 issue of Compute! magazine discusses the graphics used in Babylon 5. By today’s standards, it seems primitive, but it was innovative in its time. Each episode of the series used an average of 6,000 frames of computer graphic animation from Foundation Imaging. They used 24 Amiga 2000s, 16 of which were dedicated rendering engines. They had 32 megabytes of RAM, a Fusion-40 accelerator and the Toaster. The Amigas were connected via a Novell network and sent data to a 12 gigabyte 486 PC file server. They later upgraded to Pentium and Alpha-based systems.
You're kidding me, right? So you can totally believe that Russia moved thousands and thousands of troops into the province of Ukraine known as Crimea in an invasion to seize and annex that territory, but it is too much to believe that any of them were operating outside of Ukraine? Including special forces teams or Russian intelligence personnel that would customarily operate covertly? In areas where they could probably fit in as natives? While Russia "innocently" moved 60,000 troops adjacent to the border in a obvious show of force as threat of a wider invasion?
You may have moved into the region of "willing suspension of judgment."
On the afternoon of Aug. 2, Maddox intercepted an order for North Vietnamese P-4 torpedo boats—called PT boats by the Americans—to attack the destroyer. Maddox turned toward the open sea and was about 15 miles from shore when the PT boats caught up.
The pursuers rapidly became the pursued. Maddox opened fire with its five-inch guns and summoned air support from Ticonderoga in the South China Sea. The PT boats fled, ineffectively scattering torpedoes as they went. The action lasted 37 minutes.
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In 2011, the NSA released 200,000 lines of code to the Apache Foundation.
it may be time for people to start looking for the backdoors that the NSA may have put into Apache.
I'm sure you wouldn't want another "disaster" like SELinux (also from NSA) would you?
That would have been a much more interesting comparison if you could render the Garand rifle unusable by jamming radio frequencies.
There is no useful "analysis" in that post. Your "BS" detector apparently needs calibration since the post you responded to is almost entirely BS and you didn't detect that.
Are you having a flashback comrade? Maybe this will help. Circa 1973 - Did you hear about the very sincere Armenian students? They went to a learned professor and asked, "Is it truly possible to build communism in Armenia?" "Yes," replied the professor, "but why not do it to the Georgians first?" Snowden's actions are like communism, despite the many touted "glories" of it, better that they happen to someone else. I'll nominate China, or maybe Russia now that they are back to seizing the lands of others to add to the glory of Russia.
As to being an "NSA asshole," I truly hope that you someday break the conditioning of your Soviet youth to realize that not everyone thinks alike in the West. Some of us are actually right even if we are not a member of "the party," an apparatchik, or a member of the "dark forces."
No, I can confirm I've heard similar rationalising.
Everything from getting embarrassed and changing the subject to "That part doesn't apply in today's modern age"
How do you rationalise it to yourself if it isn't the bury your head in the sand technique?
I think that we could agree that it is possible to know the right answer to a question or problem, but not know how it was derived. Some of what you refer to is that simple: right answer, don't know how it was obtained. There is a lot of that in society since few people go to the trouble of deriving all knowledge from first principles themselves.
But lets be a little more specific about some of the factors that would come into play. One of them is the body of law involved. The Bible contains many sets of rules or laws, some of which only apply in specific circumstances. For example, there are rules that apply specifically to worship by priests in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. As you may well know, the 2nd temple was destroyed nearly 2,000 years ago and hasn't been rebuilt since. If you aren't a Jewish priest conducting worship in the Jewish temple that has yet to be rebuilt in Jerusalem then those laws would never apply to you. I will also note that there is only one place where the temple can be built according to the law, and that place is currently occupied by the Dome of the Rock, the third holiest place in Islam. The bottom line is that the purpose and scope of the law matters. The Ten Commandments are generally applicable, the laws governing Jewish priests conducting worship are very narrow in scope.
Beyond the question of the body of law and the applicability is the earthly ministry of Jesus, the Christ. The purpose of the sacrifices made in the Jewish temple were in essence as payment for breaking God's laws, for sinning. Christians believe that the death of Jesus on the cross was the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of humanity and whoever believes in Him as savior has their sins forgiven. As a result Christians are not obligated to have sacrifices made to pay for their sins in the temple. Various other laws would also not apply for a similar reason.
You can find explanations of the sacrifice that Jesus made and its meaning here or here.
I hope that helped.
Those events are apparently to be taken literally, but they don't constitute some sort of general moral command like the Ten Commandments. You aren't expected to go assault either Jericho or the Philistines today. I'm not sure why you would be confused about that.
If God is God, and the creator of the universe, then God gets to set the rules. Mass killing isn't necessarily mass murder.
If you've ever actually read the Bible you may want to consider trying it again with a study Bible since it would both enrich your understanding and provide useful linkages. It looks to be like you are either missing a lot or creating greater difficulties for yourself by misunderstandings.
There is a meaningful difference between a general idea of it and specific knowledge of what happened or was accessed.
Think of the difference between, "somebody in the city doesn't like you," and "your neighbor Bob plans to burn down your house while you are asleep at 11:30 PM tomorrow using a case of Molotov cocktails that are already prepared and are sitting in his garage." Do you think there is a difference in the action you could take based on those two scenarios?
"Act of war" is not a catchall for all hacking, only certain acts.
In this case to the benefit of China.
Snowden claimed to be an expert about China and espionage. When do you think we'll see some information about that? Or will the trend of only releasing information the compromises intelligence methods and activities of the US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and their allies continue?
He is indeed the rarest of "patriots," exposing only the intelligence plans of his own country and its allies, and not those of its adversaries.
I never suggested that. But do let me know when the National Academy of Science opens a soup kitchen.
That's what they were paid for. Good job, NSA.
Yes, but that sort of thing tends to be more valuable when it isn't publicized.
Why don't you tell it to the guy that invented the Big Bang theory?
To qualify for tax exempt status churches also have to meet various criteria. (.pdf)
I will also note that everyone on Slashdot loves to quote the Constitution, but tend to be forgetful about some clauses.
First Amendment to the United States Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[
There seems to be historical and documentary evidence that freedom of religion was important in the founding of the US.
No, what I mean is what I wrote: running charities, food shelves, hospitals, orphanages, and so on. Developing academic knowledge of the variance in protein content of a particular wheat variety doesn't actually feed people. You have to give them food for them to be fed. Developing a better bonding process for shingles so that they last 30 years instead of 25 years doesn't actually house people. You have to give them a place to sleep in a building for them to be housed. Scientific work is both useful and important, but it is not the only important work.
Many of the so called "modern ideas" are simply restatements of bad old ideas. But perhaps you can tell me, when the principle of treat people as you wish to be treated, or love your neighbor, become obsolete?
I'm sure nobody could accuse you of distortion or oversimplification. After all, Pi=3. Really.
I agree that your comment is laughable, and you don't really know what you are talking about.
The post that I replied to was a comment on tax policy. Did you have anything to add there? Or is your irrelevant comment the end of this story?
Two things. First, there are many scientific organizations that are already tax exempt. Being a scientific organization is one of the major listed justifications for tax exempt status - assuming the other criteria are met. So in that regard they are already equal.
Second, maybe we can consider changes once all of the science organizations start running various charities, food shelves, hospitals, orphanages, offering weekly moral instruction to children, and so on. Even then you won't have replaced the role of the church in society.
The great and famous German physicist Max Planck had this to say:
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Do you think they go peacefully? Or are you predisposed to your own answer?
You might have heard that special operations don't always go as planned.
They no doubt had a specific mission, we just don't know what that is. We do know the types of mission they are doctrinally prepared to execute. They would only be "in and out" if that is what the mission called for. If their mission was keeps eyes on Ukrainian security forces and report they would be staying until no longer needed, wouldn't they? If their mission was to stir up civil unrest they probably wouldn't just be "in and out" since that take time. If their mission was to infiltrate and be prepared to commit sabotage, or capture or kill Ukrainian leaders they wouldn't be "in and out." It doesn't look like the Russian special forces in Crimea, Ukraine, have left yet. They are in but not out.
I'm puzzled why you think that multiple fake IDs would not be useful in a modern society for covert operations? You're willing to believe that fake IDs can be handed out by Russia to people in Ukraine, but not to Russians going to Ukraine?
At this point I'm not sure where we can go with the conversation. You seem committed to believing that Russian special forces can be found in one part of Ukraine, but not another. That doesn't really seem logical. Part of the art of war?
Just think of all the additional territory that legal reform applies to as of today .... and maybe more next month?
So like George Lucas did with Star Wars?
We might be on safer ground, I don't recall that B5 had any Ewoks or Gungans.
CGI first introduced to TV in Babylon 5
The July 1994 issue of Compute! magazine discusses the graphics used in Babylon 5. By today’s standards, it seems primitive, but it was innovative in its time. Each episode of the series used an average of 6,000 frames of computer graphic animation from Foundation Imaging. They used 24 Amiga 2000s, 16 of which were dedicated rendering engines. They had 32 megabytes of RAM, a Fusion-40 accelerator and the Toaster. The Amigas were connected via a Novell network and sent data to a 12 gigabyte 486 PC file server. They later upgraded to Pentium and Alpha-based systems.
The making of Babylon 5
Source of Amiga Video Toaster Software Released
You're kidding me, right? So you can totally believe that Russia moved thousands and thousands of troops into the province of Ukraine known as Crimea in an invasion to seize and annex that territory, but it is too much to believe that any of them were operating outside of Ukraine? Including special forces teams or Russian intelligence personnel that would customarily operate covertly? In areas where they could probably fit in as natives? While Russia "innocently" moved 60,000 troops adjacent to the border in a obvious show of force as threat of a wider invasion?
You may have moved into the region of "willing suspension of judgment."
I find it hard to believe that it couldn't be fixed by replacement cases.
As to where the Maddox was ...
Encounters in the Tonkin Gulf
On the afternoon of Aug. 2, Maddox intercepted an order for North Vietnamese P-4 torpedo boats—called PT boats by the Americans—to attack the destroyer. Maddox turned toward the open sea and was about 15 miles from shore when the PT boats caught up.
The pursuers rapidly became the pursued. Maddox opened fire with its five-inch guns and summoned air support from Ticonderoga in the South China Sea. The PT boats fled, ineffectively scattering torpedoes as they went. The action lasted 37 minutes.