The two Koreas weren't really equal, South Korea was well ahead in terms of building a viable economy for an advanced nation for the purposes of peace and prosperity. You are right in noting that the USSR was involved since it and China were engaged in providing massive aid to prop up North Korea. The North Koreas are responsible for their famine, not the US. They managed to magnify any hardship caused by the weather by means of incompetent and backwards communist inspired agriculture policy. What's worse is that they prioritize the military and direct food there first. They stole food aid for the peasants and sent it to the military as well, which is why so many nations are hesitant to provide them more aid. To top it all off they recently enacted "currency reform" that crushed what little progress their middle class had managed. The cherry on the top is that they ignore Chinese recommendations to implement market reforms, which they recently set back in a huge way. That is before you discuss the many criminal enterprises the North Korean state is engaged in, such as drug dealing and counterfeiting. You are badly confused about the facts.
So your preference for the Anonymous members is that instead of suffering a transient DDOS attack having no long term affect on them that they would instead be prosecuted, their PCs confiscated, they be imprisoned and fined for engaging in illegal DDOS attacks - since that is a very possible outcome of the law? It seems to me they got off quite lightly as it was. Instead you wish them far greater punishment and a long term mark against them that could affect their future employment? Do you really think that is wise? Do you hate Anonymous? Or is it something to do with your framework of reasoning?
Go look at the link I provided. Do you really think that I somehow persuaded the Leftist journalists at Guardian paper to write bad things about North Korea - 10 years ago? If you do then you are a nitwit, at best.
I can only persuade people open to actual evidence, and some people aren't. You apparently are in that category. What does that say about you? Thoughtless and doctrinaire come to mind, I'm sure more things apply as well. None of them are positive attributes. You should really rethink your life.
They have a proxy interface for the teletype. The one digits use the proxy for the telegraph hooked to the old dashdot site that then forwards the text.
You apparently don't pay much attention to defense matters. You should look into the "peace dividend" in the 1990s, and the current defense sequestration cuts.
I would be surprised if they had the resources to write an entire OS from scratch.
Why? *nix has been reimplemented or ported many times in many computer languages on many different computer architectures. Both Unix and Linux were originally written and maintained by a small number of people, and the same goes for many other capable operating systems. I seem to recall that Unix version 6 or 7 was ported to new architectures several times by 1 or 2 people in three to four months. Writing a new GUI has been done in about one person-year. Both the design and code for *nix like operating systems are openly available. I have no problem believing that if they wanted to they could do so.
It would probably be something of a waste of resources, but since they have roughly the population of California (from where many operating systems have launched) while having the largest military in the world (combined active & reserve) just sitting on its hands waiting for order to go South to liberate their "brothers," it would seem that wasted resources aren't necessarily a big issue to them. They also have some unusually powerful incentives: get that new GUI working in 1 year or you will be considered a "wrecker", judged a traitor, and you and three generations of your family will go to be "test subjects". If you do get it working, everyone in your family will have their daily calorie allocation increased from 2,150 to 3,750, your meat ration will double, your salary will be increased 25%, you will jump 3 years in the apartment allocation queue, and you will be eligible to take trips to the new People's Amusement Park free of charge. (Stalin's ways haven't died out there.)
Despite their isolation, oppression, and starvation, North Korea is an industrialized state that has built and detonated atomic explosives, designs and manufactures long range missiles, has manufactured both chemical and biological weapons, updated both Chinese and Soviet/Russian designs of weapons, and attempted satellite launches. They have provided both Iran and Syria with valuable assistance in their nuclear programs. They have problems with quality and corruption, but nobody really wants to have to fight them. There have been many stories on their hacker academy.
I believe you'll find Anonymous is breaking the social contract because governments have already done so.
Perhaps you could explain then how attacking random people and corporations is a useful reaction? Anonymous aren't out to "enforce" the social contract but for "lulz" or to satisfy their pique. They are cyber vandals, little more. Anonymous is no more justified in most of what they do than most any other vigilante group.
I don't necessarily agree with everything Anonymous does -- but I sure as hell understand the reason for them existing. When your rulers are unjust, you have little recourse except to break the social contract as well.
Then you basically negate the social contract entirely since there will always be someone or some group that can claim that they have been treated unfairly, and we now move to the realm of vigilantes. I don't see them fighting for noble causes in the case of genuine oppression so much as petty grievances and fringe causes. They vandalize over the irk of the hour despite their noble claims.
You will notice that they are heavily active in Western democracies which have many rights guarantees, social safety nets, and little or no meaningful political oppression. Perhaps you can tell us, what country would they not vandalize? Where can we find an order so universally just and beyond reproach from every viewpoint, including the insane, juvenile, or foreign, that it cannot be assailed?
They neither support nor enforce the social contract, they undermine it.
I suspect most North Koreans would gladly trade the problem of a DDOS attack against them by the government for engaging in DDOS in exchange for their current problems of political prisoners being experimented on and mass starvation due to the government diverting both local food and foreign food aid to the military.
Anonymous had already broken the social contract. You seem to be silent on that. Do you also complain about the police breaking the social contract for using force?
In the movie "A Beautiful Mind," actor Russell Crowe plays John Nash, the mathematician behind the "Nash equilibrium." There's a scene in the film where Nash realizes that he and his friends should avoid simultaneously trying to win the heart of the most attractive woman in the bar. He urges them, instead, to confer and woo her less attractive friends. Therefore, everyone leaves the bar happy. In some sense, Chu is John Nash allowing his fellow contestant to leave the bar happy, too.
There was no breach of US law. You must want to punish them for pursuing a policy you disagree with, that's all. That is a fine example of the very reason the US doesn't recognize the ICC.
You are also confused about the history. It was Saddam that lied. He had the Iraqi government act as if it still did have WMD to deceive the Iranians.
Then there's China, its inflation rate skyrocketed into hyperinflation several times during the recent 30 years, yet they've had double-digit growth for about as long as that.
China's rapid economic growth began in 1978 when they began to unscrew the economy by introducing market reforms.
The seeds of China's rapid economic growth since the 1990s were first planted back in 1978 when the Communist Party started to introduce capitalist market principles, initially in the agricultural sector.
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The two Koreas weren't really equal, South Korea was well ahead in terms of building a viable economy for an advanced nation for the purposes of peace and prosperity. You are right in noting that the USSR was involved since it and China were engaged in providing massive aid to prop up North Korea. The North Koreas are responsible for their famine, not the US. They managed to magnify any hardship caused by the weather by means of incompetent and backwards communist inspired agriculture policy. What's worse is that they prioritize the military and direct food there first. They stole food aid for the peasants and sent it to the military as well, which is why so many nations are hesitant to provide them more aid. To top it all off they recently enacted "currency reform" that crushed what little progress their middle class had managed. The cherry on the top is that they ignore Chinese recommendations to implement market reforms, which they recently set back in a huge way. That is before you discuss the many criminal enterprises the North Korean state is engaged in, such as drug dealing and counterfeiting. You are badly confused about the facts.
So your preference for the Anonymous members is that instead of suffering a transient DDOS attack having no long term affect on them that they would instead be prosecuted, their PCs confiscated, they be imprisoned and fined for engaging in illegal DDOS attacks - since that is a very possible outcome of the law? It seems to me they got off quite lightly as it was. Instead you wish them far greater punishment and a long term mark against them that could affect their future employment? Do you really think that is wise? Do you hate Anonymous? Or is it something to do with your framework of reasoning?
Go look at the link I provided. Do you really think that I somehow persuaded the Leftist journalists at Guardian paper to write bad things about North Korea - 10 years ago? If you do then you are a nitwit, at best.
I can only persuade people open to actual evidence, and some people aren't. You apparently are in that category. What does that say about you? Thoughtless and doctrinaire come to mind, I'm sure more things apply as well. None of them are positive attributes. You should really rethink your life.
So, you're saying Slashdot should be run farmers?
*unhitches mules from plow*
I'm on my way!
I thought there was something plain about you, English.
They have a proxy interface for the teletype. The one digits use the proxy for the telegraph hooked to the old dashdot site that then forwards the text.
You apparently don't pay much attention to defense matters. You should look into the "peace dividend" in the 1990s, and the current defense sequestration cuts.
I would be surprised if they had the resources to write an entire OS from scratch.
Why? *nix has been reimplemented or ported many times in many computer languages on many different computer architectures. Both Unix and Linux were originally written and maintained by a small number of people, and the same goes for many other capable operating systems. I seem to recall that Unix version 6 or 7 was ported to new architectures several times by 1 or 2 people in three to four months. Writing a new GUI has been done in about one person-year. Both the design and code for *nix like operating systems are openly available. I have no problem believing that if they wanted to they could do so.
It would probably be something of a waste of resources, but since they have roughly the population of California (from where many operating systems have launched) while having the largest military in the world (combined active & reserve) just sitting on its hands waiting for order to go South to liberate their "brothers," it would seem that wasted resources aren't necessarily a big issue to them. They also have some unusually powerful incentives: get that new GUI working in 1 year or you will be considered a "wrecker", judged a traitor, and you and three generations of your family will go to be "test subjects". If you do get it working, everyone in your family will have their daily calorie allocation increased from 2,150 to 3,750, your meat ration will double, your salary will be increased 25%, you will jump 3 years in the apartment allocation queue, and you will be eligible to take trips to the new People's Amusement Park free of charge. (Stalin's ways haven't died out there.)
Despite their isolation, oppression, and starvation, North Korea is an industrialized state that has built and detonated atomic explosives, designs and manufactures long range missiles, has manufactured both chemical and biological weapons, updated both Chinese and Soviet/Russian designs of weapons, and attempted satellite launches. They have provided both Iran and Syria with valuable assistance in their nuclear programs. They have problems with quality and corruption, but nobody really wants to have to fight them. There have been many stories on their hacker academy.
It's hard to believe this wasn't arson if that facility was like the Iron Mountain facility I've seen.
I wonder why the fire suppression system wasn't able to stop it?
Maybe I missed something, but it appears that you have the first on-topic post on this story. Kudos.
I agree with you, spot on.
I believe you'll find Anonymous is breaking the social contract because governments have already done so.
Perhaps you could explain then how attacking random people and corporations is a useful reaction? Anonymous aren't out to "enforce" the social contract but for "lulz" or to satisfy their pique. They are cyber vandals, little more. Anonymous is no more justified in most of what they do than most any other vigilante group.
I don't necessarily agree with everything Anonymous does -- but I sure as hell understand the reason for them existing. When your rulers are unjust, you have little recourse except to break the social contract as well.
Then you basically negate the social contract entirely since there will always be someone or some group that can claim that they have been treated unfairly, and we now move to the realm of vigilantes. I don't see them fighting for noble causes in the case of genuine oppression so much as petty grievances and fringe causes. They vandalize over the irk of the hour despite their noble claims.
You will notice that they are heavily active in Western democracies which have many rights guarantees, social safety nets, and little or no meaningful political oppression. Perhaps you can tell us, what country would they not vandalize? Where can we find an order so universally just and beyond reproach from every viewpoint, including the insane, juvenile, or foreign, that it cannot be assailed?
They neither support nor enforce the social contract, they undermine it.
I suspect most North Koreans would gladly trade the problem of a DDOS attack against them by the government for engaging in DDOS in exchange for their current problems of political prisoners being experimented on and mass starvation due to the government diverting both local food and foreign food aid to the military.
But they're trying to stop the hacker group Anonymous
FTFY
Anonymous had already broken the social contract. You seem to be silent on that. Do you also complain about the police breaking the social contract for using force?
Nash made a contribution to game theory, but it doesn't encompass game theory. It is a broader discipline than that.
A "one night stand" can have lifelong consequences.
It could still be random, just over a subset of the board and not the entire board.
When I read the into it made me think of the Nash equilibrium. I wasn't the only one apparently.
'Hero-villain' Jeopardy! contestant returns to game show Feb. 24
In the movie "A Beautiful Mind," actor Russell Crowe plays John Nash, the mathematician behind the "Nash equilibrium." There's a scene in the film where Nash realizes that he and his friends should avoid simultaneously trying to win the heart of the most attractive woman in the bar. He urges them, instead, to confer and woo her less attractive friends. Therefore, everyone leaves the bar happy. In some sense, Chu is John Nash allowing his fellow contestant to leave the bar happy, too.
Indeed.
“Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas . . . for it is the assertion of a universal negative.” -- G. K. Chesterton
Why if the universe is ~6000 yr old ... Why would the Creator be so deceptive to create 6000 yr ago ....
You're mistaken. The Bible doesn't teach that the universe is 6,000 year old.
Please fasten your seatbelts, we seem to be encountering some turbulence.
The secret battle cry of the North that signifies they are coming to liberate their brothers in the South: Ree Loy Jenken!!!
All I can offer you is a quantum of solace.
There was no breach of US law. You must want to punish them for pursuing a policy you disagree with, that's all. That is a fine example of the very reason the US doesn't recognize the ICC.
You are also confused about the history. It was Saddam that lied. He had the Iraqi government act as if it still did have WMD to deceive the Iranians.
Thank you Jeremiah! Next up... Maurice Bolyer - Canada's King of the Banjo!
Then there's China, its inflation rate skyrocketed into hyperinflation several times during the recent 30 years, yet they've had double-digit growth for about as long as that.
China's rapid economic growth began in 1978 when they began to unscrew the economy by introducing market reforms.
China's economic miracle
The seeds of China's rapid economic growth since the 1990s were first planted back in 1978 when the Communist Party started to introduce capitalist market principles, initially in the agricultural sector.