This would kill them professionally as they'd have no way to explain their gap in resume.
Most people who need to worry about a resume/CV are bright enough to realize they shouldn't be cracking/hacking into other's people's networks & computers.
The word will spread quickly. Besides, don't most people on Slashdot have a warm spot in their heart for Darwin..... at least when his ideas don't work against them?
It's only a matter of time before hackers are treated like sex offenders, just wait and see.
I think it will be a very long time before anyone has to worry about the cry going out,
"Oy! Lock up your daughters! We've got a hacker in the neighborhood!"
I used wireshark to fix a bug today. Apparently I would be a criminal in the UK, with a minimum sentence of 2 years.
This is fucked.
If you did it trying to hack into someone else's computer(s) or network(s) that you didn't have proper authorization to use or use in that manner, then probably yes. If you did it for your employer as part of your job responsibilities or normal maintenance, or on your own personal network of systems you own, control, or have authorization to use for that purpose, then it is very unlikely. Hmmm, that didn't seem so hard.
What is illegal for the citizenry...Should be illegal for the government.
Because every citizen needs their own standing army, blue water navy, air defense artillery & missiles with the right to govern their own airspace, the ability to capture and imprison their neighbors for acts ranging from buggery to murder, the power of personal approval over new cancer treatments, and the ability to make treaties with Japan, Canada, Fiji, and Peru. Or is it nobody and no government needs that? I forget.....
I enjoy Slashdot because on occasion you read fine minds in elevated discourse. Unfortunately sometimes that means simply moving from 3rd grade to 5th grade discussions.
Next we can consider the puppet governments of Eastern Europe that were installed by the Soviet Union: East Germany, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, and Albania. And don't forget that the Soviet Union led Warsaw Pact forces in to crush the protests of workers in Eastern Europe, such as the the '53 uprising in East Germany , the revolution in Hungary in '56, Czechoslovakia in '68 (the "Prague Spring), and threatened to do in Poland in the 80s.
The People's Republic of China certainly isn't blameless either - note its treatment of Tibet as a similar example. It continues to threaten Taiwan with invasion, and to attack the United States as well over the status of Taiwan. There are other examples as well.
These are by no means the only examples of Soviet Communist and Communist Chinese oppression and adventurism. If you only remember what the US has done then I would say your memory is quite stunted and selective.
To defense companies about weapons that they want to counter? Very likely. It's hard to design to defeat something if you don't know its performance. To the Coca Cola company about the threat of that new Chinese cola energy drink? I doubt it.
The corporations don't ask? I'll ask, "How do you know?"
He says it would be great to hear a positive drug story, but he doesn't actually tell a real one. I guess it's supposed to be funny as long as you aren't the one on a bad trip, or dying.
The mortality rates from unintentional drug overdose (not including alcohol) have risen steadily since the early 1970s, and over the past ten years they have reached historic highs. Rates are currently 4 to 5 times higher than the rates during the “black tar” heroin epidemic in the mid-1970s and more than twice what they were during the peak years of crack cocaine in the early 1990s. The rate shown for 2005 translates into 22,400 unintentional and intentional drug overdose deaths. To put this in context, just over 17,000 homicides occurred in 2005. The number of drug overdose deaths does not yet exceed the number of motor vehicle crash deaths overall, but for the first time more people in the 45-54 age group now die of drug overdoses than from traffic crashes.
You seem to be confusing the issue of reporting on a released study versus original reporting or research.
. . . that much doubt means it's not even worth considering. When they eliminate all those doubts and get within 6-sigma I'll consider it.
Do let me know when the FDA begins approving double blind randomized studies of illegal drugs on minors, won't you?
Ditto your sciencedaily (which is about as reliable as the Daily Mail) - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360494/ [nih.gov] - in fact there are hundreds more reliable studies than the crap you're posting, which aren't even from reliable sources.
Well, maybe this will be more to your liking? It is also several years more recent than the one you quote.
CONCLUSIONS: Marijuana smoking leads to asymmetrical bullous disease, often in the setting of normal CXR and lung function. In subjects who smoke marijuana, these pathological changes occur at a younger age (approximately 20 years earlier) than in tobacco smokers.
CONCLUSIONS: In case of emphysema in young individuals, marijuana abuse has to be considered in the differential diagnosis. The period of marijuana smoking seems to play an important role in the development of lung emphysema. This obviously quite frequent condition in young and so far asymptomatic patients will have medical, financial, and ethical impact, as some of these patients may be severely handicapped or even become lung transplant candidates in the future.
Abstract In many societies, marijuana is the second most commonly smoked substance after tobacco. While delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is unique to marijuana and nicotine to tobacco, the smoke of marijuana, like that of tobacco, consists of a toxic mixture of gases and particulates, many of which are known to be harmful to the lung. Although far fewer marijuana than tobacco cigarettes are generally smoked on a daily basis, the pulmonary consequences of marijuana smoking may be magnified by the greater deposition of smoke particulates in the lung due to the differing manner in which marijuana is smoked. Whereas THC causes modest short-term bronchodilation, regular marijuana smoking produces a number of long-term pulmonary consequences, including chronic cough and sputum, histopathologic evidence of widespread airway inflammation and injury and immunohistochemical evidence of dysregulated growth of respiratory epithelial cells, that may be precursors to lung cancer. The THC in marijuana could contribute to some of these injurious changes through its ability to augment oxidative stress, cause mitochondrial dysfunction, and inhibit apoptosis. On the other hand, physiologic, clinical or epidemiologic evidence that marijuana smoking may lead to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or respiratory cancer is limited and inconsistent. Habitual use of marijuana is also associated with abnormalities in the structure and function of alveolar macrophages, including impairment in microbial phagocytosis and killing that is associated with defective production of immunostimulatory cytokines and nitric oxide, thereby potentially predisposing to pulmonary infection. In view of the growing interest in medicinal marijuana, further epidemiologic studies are needed to clarify the true risks of regular marijuana smoking on respiratory health.
And imagine what we could accomplish if the researchers were free to soak the wires in LSD and tires in cannabis solutions?
Researchers probably could do that if they had a valid scientific reason and went through the proper procedures. The problem is that most people aren't interested in soaking wires or tires, but soaking minds. The result of that is well known.
We're already receiving that same kind of attention from the USA, to the extent that they're choosing our political leadership for us.
You seem confused about the facts. Some Australians may have given notice to US diplomats that this was happening, but that doesn't mean that the US decided who was going to be the Australian PM any more than you complaining to your neighbor about a bad boss at work makes the neighbor responsible when the boss gets fired.
It was Australians who made the choice, and Australians who voted on who would be the PM, not the US.
The boy-faced former diplomat was unceremoniously dumped by senior Labour Party power brokers after failing to secure a lift in the opinion polls and angering MPs by his refusal to consult on important policies.
America, China, neither have real Australians interests in mind, so what does it matter who's meddling most?
Based on the content that is at the link, I think I might see where you are going wrong on this point:
. . . the recent Four Corners program has revealed further evidence that the U.S. Government had advance notice of the coup against Rudd. I highly recommend the following article and others on the World Socialist Website to get the real story about Australian politics - make no mistake there is far more than a clash of personalities going on in Canberra right now
Again, you are wrong. The case quoted was when workers suffered severe burns in factory explosions. In most cases of weaponized WP, you are not going to get 35%+ burns. You're going to get small, localized burns as WP is used in small quickly burning pieces as these burn more efficiently. As a result, you have a pretty good survival rate from initial burns.
You seem to have gone off on a tangent, so, let me restate things a bit more explicitly. I have taken the two passages in question and excepted them to focus on the matter at hand. As you can see below, in both references, systemic poisoning from phosphorus is discounted as a contributing factor in death following phosphorous burns. The paper you noted explicitly states that the course of burns from phosphorous follows a path "“indistinguishable” from that of nonphosphorus related third-degree burns." There is no second phase of an injury from phosphorous burns that makes phosphorous a chemical weapon in the formal sense anymore than the lead content of bullets makes them a poison.
2.2.4.1 Death
. . . These burn cases followed a course that was “indistinguishable” from that of nonphosphorus related third-degree burns. Thus, death apparently resulted from the burns alone, with no contributing factor from white phosphorus.
Handbook of Pesticide Toxicology, 2nd edition, Volume 1, by Robert Irving Krieger, p. 1400
Absorption, Distribution, Metabolism, and Excretion
Phosphorus . . . can cause severe burns to the skin, but it is said that not enough is absorbed from the burned areas to cause systemic poisoning. The dead tissue may be protective by permitting time for complete oxidation to phosphoric acid
Finally, the argument is also irrelevant. Just because nuclear weapon kills most of its victims conventionally (shockwave, shrapnel, burns) doesn't mean it still has a radioactive potential. Same goes for chemical weapons.
For nuclear weapons you are correct. The physical manifestation of their explosion results in multiple effects that can injure or kill. Chemical weapons tend to have a single mechanism for causing injury even if there are multiple ways in which the damage can manifest itself. Hydrogen cyanide prevents the blood from taking up oxygen, for example. Nerve gas, in its various forms, impedes the communication of the nervous system, resulting in a variety of symptoms. In a similar vein the overwhelming primary effect of flame weapons is to burn, not poison, even if their substances are poisonous when ingested.
Also, I corrected myself long before your post, it's the same allotrope but different chemical. Read the other reply.
I see that, and acknowledge it. Thank you.
I must tell you that I am finding this an interesting discussion. You are obviously intelligent, resourceful and determined. I doubt that we will come to a common understanding, or agreement, but it is interesting.
On one hand your "open secret" is absolute baloney, i.e. nonsense.
It is directed at your proposition that NATO's intent would be to "backstab" Finland and the implied hostility toward Finland as opposed to defeating Soviet military units operating in Finland. Clearly NATO had no meaningful dispute with Finland during the Cold War, but would not ignore Soviet forces operating from conquered Finnish territory to attack NATO and allied countries. If the Finnish military lost control of a major facility or area to Soviet forces, there would be little chance they would get it back. The best they would be likely to manage would be sabotage operations which would be unlikely to seriously impede Soviet operations.
It is well known that NATO was willing to use nuclear weapons on its own territory to defeat Warsaw Pact forces if necessary, and any NATO nuclear munitions detonated inside of Finland would have been for the same purpose: to defeat Warsaw Pact (most likely Soviet) forces, not to "backstab" Finland. Thankfully that was an issue that never had to be faced. I notice you had nothing to say about Soviet nuclear weapons, or the prospect of indefinite occupation of Finland by the Soviets without NATO assistance in defeating them. (It's not 1939 any more.)
The Soviet Union launched an attack on Finland on 30 November 1939, marking the beginning of the Winter War. During the Second World War, Finland fought the Soviet Union twice: in the Winter War in 1939-1940 and again in the Continuation War in 1941-1944.
As a result of the wars, Finland had to concede Karelia and a few other territories to the Soviet Union. The 430,000 Finns who lived in these territories had to flee their homes and resettle in the remaining Finnish territory. Most importantly, however, Finland was not occupied at any point during the Second World War and the country retained its independence despite the territorial concessions.
Finland After the Wars
The wars left Finland in a state of uncertainty. At first, there were fears that the Soviet Union would try to turn Finland into a communist country as it had done with the other European neighbours of the Soviet Union after the war. Nevertheless, Finland managed to build up a good relationship with the Soviet Union, to retain its democratic social structure and to increase trading with the Western World. Regardless of all this, the country had to balance its foreign policy between the Soviet Union and the West for a long time.
In some ways, Soviet leader Josef Stalin became emboldened by Adolph Hitler's actions (and subsequent success) in his capture of several of the smaller nations en route to Poland and France. Not to be outdone - and securing a pact with Hitler's Germany, Stalin moved to expand the Soviet Empire to include the Baltic nations of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuanian. With little resistance, the Soviet Army was allowed to set up local garrisons in the respective countries.
Finland was another such nation in the Soviet scope. However, the Finns were not all too ready to bow down to the Communist herd and stood strong in the face of threats from the Soviets. Eventually, the threats were called off and two days later, the Soviet Army invaded Finland. World support from the US, UK, France and Sweden all proposed assistance but little of this actually materialized to help the Finns out.
The defense of Finland more or less revolved around the integrity of the Mannerheim Line, a series of defensive fortifications protecting the Finnish-Russo border. Initial thrusts by Soviet Armor columns and troops to the south of the line were met with disastrous results. Though the Fins were outclassed logistically and materially, they were experts on their home turf - trained to fight in ice and snow (not to mention the resolve inherent in the Finn soldier). . ..More
Simo Häyhä, nicknamed "White Death" by the Red Army, was a Finnish sniper. Using a modified Mosin–Nagant in the Winter War, he has the highest recorded number of confirmed sniper kills–505–in any major war. Häyhä was also credited with over 200 kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun, for a total of 705 confirmed kills.
Not at all welcome. The "open secret" of NATO's plans for USSR attack on Finland was to use tactical nukes to cripple the country's infrastructure. Basically to backstab the country that tries to defend itself at the critical moment.
On one hand your "open secret" is absolute baloney, i.e. nonsense. On the other, it is beautiful, absolutely beautiful, a textbook example of:
Disinformation is mostly commonly described as false information created by governments in wartime for military purposes and by totalitarian governments for political purposes in peacetime. Rumors, lies, and other forms of disinformation were made public by the Soviet Union to discredit the United States, the latter being the context in which the word is generally applied. The KGB coined the Russian word dezinformatsiya ; it came into the English language as disinformation. The technique of disinformation goes back at least to 1918 with the end of World War I. Disinformation as a KGB weapon began in 1923 when I. S. Inshlikht, deputy chairman of the GPU, then the name of the KGB, proposed the establishment of a special disinformation office to conduct active intelligence operations.
Soviet active measures. Soviet active measures refer to the influence operations organized by the Soviet government. These include white, gray, and black propaganda, as well as disinformation. White propaganda was created by the Information Department of the Communist Party and included those publicly identified Soviet channels as Radio Moscow, Novosti, and pamphlets and magazines as well as official Soviet government statements. Gray propaganda was organized by the International Department of the Communist Party and used such channels as the foreign Communist Parties and the network of international Soviet fronts. Black propaganda was prepared by the KGB and included agents of influence, covert media placements, and until 1959, assassinations. Forgeries and disinformation were used by the Soviets in all modes. The first effective disinformation campaign was during the Korean Conflict. This was a major Soviet disinformation campaign that generated media attention. The Americans were accused of going into Korean villages during the Korean conflict (1950–1953) and shooting villagers, or killing them with biological weapons and chemical warfare. In fact, the Soviets used anthrax in Korea to kill men, women, and children, and then blamed it on the Americans. . ..
A sensational disinformation story appeared with allegations that the United States deliberately created AIDS in the laboratory to use it as a weapon. The KGB started the story in 1985 with placements in both Soviet and foreign newspapers; by September, 1986, it became a major campaign when an English language paper that actually originated in East Berlin carried the story. "AIDS: Its Nature and Origin," was distributed at the Non-Aligned Movement Summit in Harare, where it contained pseudo scientific verbiage, but the only evidence linking the origin of AIDS to U.S. military laboratories was the following unfounded statement: "The first appearance of AIDS exactly coincides with the opening of a P-4 laboratory at Fort Detrick [Maryland]—taking into account the incubation period. This is also indicated by the fact that the spreading of AIDS to the world emanated from New York, a city in the neighbourhood of Fort Detrick. The assumption that AIDS is a product of the preparation of biological warfare can therefore quite plainly be expressed."
The Soviet disinformation campaign accused the U.S. government of creating the AIDS virus as a weapon against black people and the story quickly appeared worldwide, despite U.S. protests that Fort Detrick, in Maryland, was hundreds of miles from New York. In April 1987, U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop advised the Soviets that if this campaign continued, "direct U.S
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Just because. Of course, they aren't.
Point taken, and my regrets, sire. ;)
This would kill them professionally as they'd have no way to explain their gap in resume.
Most people who need to worry about a resume/CV are bright enough to realize they shouldn't be cracking/hacking into other's people's networks & computers.
The word will spread quickly. Besides, don't most people on Slashdot have a warm spot in their heart for Darwin..... at least when his ideas don't work against them?
It's only a matter of time before hackers are treated like sex offenders, just wait and see.
I think it will be a very long time before anyone has to worry about the cry going out,
"Oy! Lock up your daughters! We've got a hacker in the neighborhood!"
Just watch and wait: it'll be the kid who takes apart his iPod to replace the broken battery who gets charged.
That is entirely too cynical. The authorities seem perfectly capable of coming up with reasonable suspects:
'Lulzsec hackers' arrested in international swoop
FBI arrests 16 in Anonymous hacking investigation
I used wireshark to fix a bug today. Apparently I would be a criminal in the UK, with a minimum sentence of 2 years.
This is fucked.
If you did it trying to hack into someone else's computer(s) or network(s) that you didn't have proper authorization to use or use in that manner, then probably yes. If you did it for your employer as part of your job responsibilities or normal maintenance, or on your own personal network of systems you own, control, or have authorization to use for that purpose, then it is very unlikely. Hmmm, that didn't seem so hard.
What is illegal for the citizenry...Should be illegal for the government.
Because every citizen needs their own standing army, blue water navy, air defense artillery & missiles with the right to govern their own airspace, the ability to capture and imprison their neighbors for acts ranging from buggery to murder, the power of personal approval over new cancer treatments, and the ability to make treaties with Japan, Canada, Fiji, and Peru. Or is it nobody and no government needs that? I forget.....
I enjoy Slashdot because on occasion you read fine minds in elevated discourse. Unfortunately sometimes that means simply moving from 3rd grade to 5th grade discussions.
I was confused by that too. And why would China want to *help* a US company by giving Boeing Airbus info?
Gratitude?
Slight correction:
Except that we don't vote for the P.M.
Last I knew it was Australian MPs that voted for the PM, so yes, it is still Australians that vote for the PM. Or has that changed?
Except that we don't vote for the P.M.
Last I knew it was Australian MPs that voted from the PM, so yes, it is still Australians that vote for the PM. Or has that changed?
We are spying but.....we don't do the same kind of spying they do. Our spying is okay, theirs is evil.
Since the Communists of the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China managed to kill about 100,000,000 people between them in about the last 80 years, you could state that pretty much literally, yes.
The Gruesome Consequences of a Political Idea
Why Doesn't Communism Have as Bad a Name as Nazism?
A Tale of Red Guards and Cannibals
Yeah, we just overthrow governments and set up their elected officials to take the blame: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
Come now, you are being reckless with the facts. The coup you speak of was a counter-coup that retuned the Shaw to power as the head of state of Iran
No, if you want to see real bare knuckled power you need to look at how the Soviet Union overthrew the governments of the independent nations of the Baltic States, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, and incorporated them into the territory of the Soviet Union as puppet states.
Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic
Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic
Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic
The Soviet Union also attacked Finland and seized 11% of its territory, and 30% of its economic assets.
The Soviet Union also invaded Poland with Germany, and ultimately annexed 21,275 square Km of Poland's territory as well.
Next we can consider the puppet governments of Eastern Europe that were installed by the Soviet Union: East Germany, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, and Albania. And don't forget that the Soviet Union led Warsaw Pact forces in to crush the protests of workers in Eastern Europe, such as the the '53 uprising in East Germany , the revolution in Hungary in '56, Czechoslovakia in '68 (the "Prague Spring), and threatened to do in Poland in the 80s.
The People's Republic of China certainly isn't blameless either - note its treatment of Tibet as a similar example. It continues to threaten Taiwan with invasion, and to attack the United States as well over the status of Taiwan. There are other examples as well.
These are by no means the only examples of Soviet Communist and Communist Chinese oppression and adventurism. If you only remember what the US has done then I would say your memory is quite stunted and selective.
To defense companies about weapons that they want to counter? Very likely. It's hard to design to defeat something if you don't know its performance. To the Coca Cola company about the threat of that new Chinese cola energy drink? I doubt it.
The corporations don't ask? I'll ask, "How do you know?"
He says it would be great to hear a positive drug story, but he doesn't actually tell a real one. I guess it's supposed to be funny as long as you aren't the one on a bad trip, or dying.
Trends in Unintentional Drug Overdose Deaths
The mortality rates from unintentional drug overdose (not including alcohol) have risen steadily since the early 1970s, and over the past ten years they have reached historic highs. Rates are currently 4 to 5 times higher than the rates during the “black tar” heroin epidemic in the mid-1970s and more than twice what they were during the peak years of crack cocaine in the early 1990s. The rate shown for 2005 translates into 22,400 unintentional and intentional drug overdose deaths. To put this in context, just over 17,000 homicides occurred in 2005. The number of drug overdose deaths does not yet exceed the number of motor vehicle crash deaths overall, but for the first time more people in the 45-54 age group now die of drug overdoses than from traffic crashes.
You seem to be confusing the issue of reporting on a released study versus original reporting or research.
Do let me know when the FDA begins approving double blind randomized studies of illegal drugs on minors, won't you?
Well, maybe this will be more to your liking? It is also several years more recent than the one you quote.
Bullous lung disease due to marijuana - Respirology. 2008 Jan;13(1):122-7.
CONCLUSIONS: Marijuana smoking leads to asymmetrical bullous disease, often in the setting of normal CXR and lung function. In subjects who smoke marijuana, these pathological changes occur at a younger age (approximately 20 years earlier) than in tobacco smokers.
Emphysema and secondary pneumothorax in young adults smoking cannabis - Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2007 Dec;32(6):834-8. Epub 2007 Oct 10.
CONCLUSIONS: In case of emphysema in young individuals, marijuana abuse has to be considered in the differential diagnosis. The period of marijuana smoking seems to play an important role in the development of lung emphysema. This obviously quite frequent condition in young and so far asymptomatic patients will have medical, financial, and ethical impact, as some of these patients may be severely handicapped or even become lung transplant candidates in the future.
Smoked marijuana as a cause of lung injury - Monaldi Arch Chest Dis. 2005 Jun;63(2):93-100.
Abstract
In many societies, marijuana is the second most commonly smoked substance after tobacco. While delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is unique to marijuana and nicotine to tobacco, the smoke of marijuana, like that of tobacco, consists of a toxic mixture of gases and particulates, many of which are known to be harmful to the lung. Although far fewer marijuana than tobacco cigarettes are generally smoked on a daily basis, the pulmonary consequences of marijuana smoking may be magnified by the greater deposition of smoke particulates in the lung due to the differing manner in which marijuana is smoked. Whereas THC causes modest short-term bronchodilation, regular marijuana smoking produces a number of long-term pulmonary consequences, including chronic cough and sputum, histopathologic evidence of widespread airway inflammation and injury and immunohistochemical evidence of dysregulated growth of respiratory epithelial cells, that may be precursors to lung cancer. The THC in marijuana could contribute to some of these injurious changes through its ability to augment oxidative stress, cause mitochondrial dysfunction, and inhibit apoptosis. On the other hand, physiologic, clinical or epidemiologic evidence that marijuana smoking may lead to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or respiratory cancer is limited and inconsistent. Habitual use of marijuana is also associated with abnormalities in the structure and function of alveolar macrophages, including impairment in microbial phagocytosis and killing that is associated with defective production of immunostimulatory cytokines and nitric oxide, thereby potentially predisposing to pulmonary infection. In view of the growing interest in medicinal marijuana, further epidemiologic studies are needed to clarify the true risks of regular marijuana smoking on respiratory health.
Dude, you are like...such a drag man. What a downer.
A bigger downer than chemotherapy or time in a mental institution?
Which are the biggest boobs?
Picnics with friends, rock climbing, hiking, parachuting, white-water rafting, a good book - plenty of other things to do.
It doesn't matter how open-minded you are, or how pure the LSD, you still can't fly. Step off the ledge without a rope and you're going to die.
Quite so. Vulcanized rubber and Teflon, are two classic examples.
Top Ten Accidental Inventions
Researchers probably could do that if they had a valid scientific reason and went through the proper procedures. The problem is that most people aren't interested in soaking wires or tires, but soaking minds. The result of that is well known.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
Marijuana Use Precedes Psychosis
We already have flying cars, but they aren't really economical. There is more "free lunch" than there is "free energy".
People should never confuse mind-altering substances with reality-altering substances.
Better and easier ways to make superconductors? I'll drink to that. Skål! Maljanne! Cheers! Zum Wohl! Prosit! Santé! Salud!
You seem confused about the facts. Some Australians may have given notice to US diplomats that this was happening, but that doesn't mean that the US decided who was going to be the Australian PM any more than you complaining to your neighbor about a bad boss at work makes the neighbor responsible when the boss gets fired.
It was Australians who made the choice, and Australians who voted on who would be the PM, not the US.
Australian coup: the rise and fall of Kevin Rudd
The boy-faced former diplomat was unceremoniously dumped by senior Labour Party power brokers after failing to secure a lift in the opinion polls and angering MPs by his refusal to consult on important policies.
Based on the content that is at the link, I think I might see where you are going wrong on this point:
. . . the recent Four Corners program has revealed further evidence that the U.S. Government had advance notice of the coup against Rudd. I highly recommend the following article and others on the World Socialist Website to get the real story about Australian politics - make no mistake there is far more than a clash of personalities going on in Canberra right now
Maybe these will help:
How to Kill Poverty
The Black Book of Communism - - - One of the reviews
Why Doesn't Communism Have as Bad a Name as Nazism?
The Road from 1989
You seem to have gone off on a tangent, so, let me restate things a bit more explicitly. I have taken the two passages in question and excepted them to focus on the matter at hand. As you can see below, in both references, systemic poisoning from phosphorus is discounted as a contributing factor in death following phosphorous burns. The paper you noted explicitly states that the course of burns from phosphorous follows a path "“indistinguishable” from that of nonphosphorus related third-degree burns." There is no second phase of an injury from phosphorous burns that makes phosphorous a chemical weapon in the formal sense anymore than the lead content of bullets makes them a poison.
2.2.4.1 Death
. . . These burn cases followed a course that was “indistinguishable” from that of nonphosphorus related third-degree burns. Thus, death apparently resulted from the burns alone, with no contributing factor from white phosphorus.
Handbook of Pesticide Toxicology, 2nd edition, Volume 1, by Robert Irving Krieger, p. 1400
Absorption, Distribution, Metabolism, and Excretion
Phosphorus . . . can cause severe burns to the skin, but it is said that not enough is absorbed from the burned areas to cause systemic poisoning. The dead tissue may be protective by permitting time for complete oxidation to phosphoric acid
For nuclear weapons you are correct. The physical manifestation of their explosion results in multiple effects that can injure or kill. Chemical weapons tend to have a single mechanism for causing injury even if there are multiple ways in which the damage can manifest itself. Hydrogen cyanide prevents the blood from taking up oxygen, for example. Nerve gas, in its various forms, impedes the communication of the nervous system, resulting in a variety of symptoms. In a similar vein the overwhelming primary effect of flame weapons is to burn, not poison, even if their substances are poisonous when ingested.
Also, I corrected myself long before your post, it's the same allotrope but different chemical. Read the other reply.
I see that, and acknowledge it. Thank you.
I must tell you that I am finding this an interesting discussion. You are obviously intelligent, resourceful and determined. I doubt that we will come to a common understanding, or agreement, but it is interesting.
Maljanne
I will clarify the following remark:
On one hand your "open secret" is absolute baloney, i.e. nonsense.
It is directed at your proposition that NATO's intent would be to "backstab" Finland and the implied hostility toward Finland as opposed to defeating Soviet military units operating in Finland. Clearly NATO had no meaningful dispute with Finland during the Cold War, but would not ignore Soviet forces operating from conquered Finnish territory to attack NATO and allied countries. If the Finnish military lost control of a major facility or area to Soviet forces, there would be little chance they would get it back. The best they would be likely to manage would be sabotage operations which would be unlikely to seriously impede Soviet operations.
It is well known that NATO was willing to use nuclear weapons on its own territory to defeat Warsaw Pact forces if necessary, and any NATO nuclear munitions detonated inside of Finland would have been for the same purpose: to defeat Warsaw Pact (most likely Soviet) forces, not to "backstab" Finland. Thankfully that was an issue that never had to be faced. I notice you had nothing to say about Soviet nuclear weapons, or the prospect of indefinite occupation of Finland by the Soviets without NATO assistance in defeating them. (It's not 1939 any more.)
Food for thought:
Sweden Secretly Assisted Nato's Cold War Defense
Finnish-US military co-operation during cold war
Soviets Sponsor Spread of AIDS Disinformation
Finland made a heroic stand against the invading armies of the Soviet Union, humiliating them badly.
Suomen historiaa
Winter War and Continuation War
The Soviet Union launched an attack on Finland on 30 November 1939, marking the beginning of the Winter War. During the Second World War, Finland fought the Soviet Union twice: in the Winter War in 1939-1940 and again in the Continuation War in 1941-1944.
As a result of the wars, Finland had to concede Karelia and a few other territories to the Soviet Union. The 430,000 Finns who lived in these territories had to flee their homes and resettle in the remaining Finnish territory. Most importantly, however, Finland was not occupied at any point during the Second World War and the country retained its independence despite the territorial concessions.
Finland After the Wars
The wars left Finland in a state of uncertainty. At first, there were fears that the Soviet Union would try to turn Finland into a communist country as it had done with the other European neighbours of the Soviet Union after the war. Nevertheless, Finland managed to build up a good relationship with the Soviet Union, to retain its democratic social structure and to increase trading with the Western World. Regardless of all this, the country had to balance its foreign policy between the Soviet Union and the West for a long time.
Winter War Timeline
Simo Häyhä - The greatest sniper in history
Simo Häyhä, nicknamed "White Death" by the Red Army, was a Finnish sniper. Using a modified Mosin–Nagant in the Winter War, he has the highest recorded number of confirmed sniper kills–505–in any major war. Häyhä was also credited with over 200 kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun, for a total of 705 confirmed kills.
Were "Divine Wind" attacks religiously motivated? Hm?
Well, yes, actually. They were done in the service of the Emperor, whom the Japanese considered a descendant of the gods on earth.
On one hand your "open secret" is absolute baloney, i.e. nonsense. On the other, it is beautiful, absolutely beautiful, a textbook example of:
Disinformation
Disinformation is mostly commonly described as false information created by governments in wartime for military purposes and by totalitarian governments for political purposes in peacetime. Rumors, lies, and other forms of disinformation were made public by the Soviet Union to discredit the United States, the latter being the context in which the word is generally applied. The KGB coined the Russian word dezinformatsiya ; it came into the English language as disinformation. The technique of disinformation goes back at least to 1918 with the end of World War I. Disinformation as a KGB weapon began in 1923 when I. S. Inshlikht, deputy chairman of the GPU, then the name of the KGB, proposed the establishment of a special disinformation office to conduct active intelligence operations.
Soviet active measures. Soviet active measures refer to the influence operations organized by the Soviet government. These include white, gray, and black propaganda, as well as disinformation. White propaganda was created by the Information Department of the Communist Party and included those publicly identified Soviet channels as Radio Moscow, Novosti, and pamphlets and magazines as well as official Soviet government statements. Gray propaganda was organized by the International Department of the Communist Party and used such channels as the foreign Communist Parties and the network of international Soviet fronts. Black propaganda was prepared by the KGB and included agents of influence, covert media placements, and until 1959, assassinations. Forgeries and disinformation were used by the Soviets in all modes. The first effective disinformation campaign was during the Korean Conflict. This was a major Soviet disinformation campaign that generated media attention. The Americans were accused of going into Korean villages during the Korean conflict (1950–1953) and shooting villagers, or killing them with biological weapons and chemical warfare. In fact, the Soviets used anthrax in Korea to kill men, women, and children, and then blamed it on the Americans. . . .
A sensational disinformation story appeared with allegations that the United States deliberately created AIDS in the laboratory to use it as a weapon. The KGB started the story in 1985 with placements in both Soviet and foreign newspapers; by September, 1986, it became a major campaign when an English language paper that actually originated in East Berlin carried the story. "AIDS: Its Nature and Origin," was distributed at the Non-Aligned Movement Summit in Harare, where it contained pseudo scientific verbiage, but the only evidence linking the origin of AIDS to U.S. military laboratories was the following unfounded statement: "The first appearance of AIDS exactly coincides with the opening of a P-4 laboratory at Fort Detrick [Maryland]—taking into account the incubation period. This is also indicated by the fact that the spreading of AIDS to the world emanated from New York, a city in the neighbourhood of Fort Detrick. The assumption that AIDS is a product of the preparation of biological warfare can therefore quite plainly be expressed."
The Soviet disinformation campaign accused the U.S. government of creating the AIDS virus as a weapon against black people and the story quickly appeared worldwide, despite U.S. protests that Fort Detrick, in Maryland, was hundreds of miles from New York. In April 1987, U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop advised the Soviets that if this campaign continued, "direct U.S
I wonder why you feel the need to lie?
That is always an interesting question, isn't it?