The AC reply to you has it right. Your post willfully misrepresents what is in the article to trick people into not reading it. It's an old game on Slashdot.
It's a pity so many people are either being taken in by it, or modding you up. Congratulations on a successful fraud.
No. Nobody fucking did! Why? Because there weren't any! If there were, he would have gone to the fucking ambulance and had them treat him instead of standing around.
Wilson told authorities Brown reached for the officer’s gun during a struggle inside his police SUV, the Times reported. The gun fired twice inside the car. One bullet hit Brown in the arm and the other bullet missed him, the Times reported. Brown was unarmed.
Brown’s blood was found on Wilson’s gun, uniform, and the inside of the vehicle door, the Times reported. Wilson said Brown “punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck,” the Times said.
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I deny jack-booted thugs the right to offense!
No, you seem to be supporting Brown who demonstrated himself to be a thug by attacking the store clerk while stealing, fortunately it was captured on video.
Do you deny the fact that you're a fascist asshole?
Yes. Fascism isn't compatible with my philosophy. Of course I am often attacked by "fascist assholes," so if the shoe fits....
You have more logical fallacies in your post than you do sentences.... TFA and my argument was regarding the establishment abusing power in order to control the narrative. Officer Wilson's alleged injuries are not relevant.
You seem to be suffering amnesia. Do you remember this statement in your post?
Back on point, they have already said that the cop that shot Michael Brown would probably not face any charges, even what should be obviously excessive use of force.
You are making a specific claim that the force used by Officer Wilson was excessive, a potential criminal offense. Furthermore, you state that it was "obvious." So let's continue to examine your statements.
Officer Wilson's alleged injuries are not relevant. Worse, the officer was not reported to be harmed at the scene, received no medical treatment on the scene, or even after he was removed from the location.
You have it backwards. Officer Wilsons injuries are a critical point. If Wilson was attacked and injured he was legally justified to defend himself from the attacker. As is your custom you either ignore or are ignorant of the relevant facts of the matter, to wit:
Wilson told authorities Brown reached for the officer’s gun during a struggle inside his police SUV, the Times reported. The gun fired twice inside the car. One bullet hit Brown in the arm and the other bullet missed him, the Times reported. Brown was unarmed.
Brown’s blood was found on Wilson’s gun, uniform, and the inside of the vehicle door, the Times reported. Wilson said Brown “punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck,” the Times said.
Well, it seems you are wrong, he was attacked and injured. That puts your unfounded claim of excessive force into the realm of falsehoods.
So you start with a Strawman and cum hoc ergo propter hoc, then move to Argumentum ad verecundiam and appeal to assertion.
No amount of spurious application of Latin phrases can create missing facts, remedy false claims, or compensate for your mistaken ideas.
Argumentum ad populum, or perhaps argumentum ad numerum. No you don't know, and no the populace does not agree with you.
In your case it would be false argument ad nauseam.
Would you care to go another round shill? I do mean shill with all of it's interesting implications, since whether you are paid or not you have a history of arguing as a pro-establishment mouth piece.
Back to ad hominem? I guess you have your "game" back. You have a history of crank theories, false claims, and recently adhering to the adversaries of the US as you've become a shill for Russian aggression. You're a mouthpiece for bad ideas of all sorts. No wonder you are so popular on Slashdot.
Back on point, they have already said that the cop that shot Michael Brown would probably not face any charges, even what should be obviously excessive use of force.
The problem is that many things that are "obvious" to you are wrong. Did you inspect officer Wilson's injuries? The coroner's reports? The physical evidence of struggle inside the police car?
Do you deny officer's the right to self defense? Or is it open season for police officers for you?
So the trend of Police brutality and corruption will continue, until of course people just start killing dirty cops. I don't advocate vigilantism, but at a certain point people will see there is no choice.
Are you incapable of reading three sentences at once?
I could ask you the same thing. Did you not read this?
But fact is more Americans voted for Democrats and they don't have the majority in the House. In a well designed system the House should match the vote. It does not.
His metric is irrelevant under the US Constitution at the national level. More Republicans voted for Democrats in more districts in the House races. That is why the House looks like it does.
And perhaps this knowledge will shock you, but Democrats have been observed gerrymandering as well.
While I'll admit the system we have with government controls on districts based on peoples' party affiliation is better, surely that's not enough to actually make the system seem good.
The current system is better than his likely alternatives.
Okay, I'll bite on the clickbait subject. How again is this News For Nerds?
Remember the countless discussions about Net Neutrality, copyright and fair use, funding for science, civil rights, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the NSA/FBI/CIA, and so on? Remember the sometimes sanctimonious use of, "WE THE PEOPLE" and the limits of government? We are at the point now where citizens give feedback on whose policies they want. It's called voting. If you're an American, you've ever complained about one of the previously mentioned topics and you don't vote, then you are an idiot.
But fact is more Americans voted for Democrats and they don't have the majority in the House. In a well designed system the House should match the vote. It does not.
The House matches the relevant vote perfectly - ever district that had a Republican win is represented by a Republican. When a Democrat wins the district is represented by a Democrat. That is the only metric that matters under the Constitution. Or do you plan to start instituting government controls on where people can live based on their party affiliation?
I don't know why you keep focusing on that irrelevant idea.
There are some important things they'll be able to get done. The changes in the rules of the Senate that the Democrats under Harry Reid put in place will see to that. But now the shoe will be on the other foot.
The Republicans won the house after losing popular vote.
There is no nationwide "popular vote" for House seats. The election is district by district for House seats. Excess Democratic votes in a district in Los Angeles don't matter for an election in Dallas, Texas. The people that keep claiming that are either confused or engaging in dishonest rhetoric.
. For whatever reason, when statewide races are decided by less than 1 point, Democrats win almost three-quarters of the time. When the margin opens to 1-2 points, that advantage dissipates, and the Democrats win only half the races:
So you'd say that we should ban the sale of bomb making materials, do I get that right?
Not really. I explained why it was under restriction, I didn't really take a position on it.
Ok, let's see what I can come up without spending time to ponder. Petrol, drain cleaner, natural gas, fertilizer, battery acid, glass cleaner and with a bit of electricity, water.
Let's ban all that, ok?
Why don't you start the ball rolling?
I must admit that I am intrigued that you have found something in Europe that displeases you.
Hydrogen peroxide has pretty much one use: act as a chemical reagent. The reactions it can participate in are varied, one of which is making explosives. There is considerable societal interest in regulating its use in chemical relations leading to the production of explosives.
Firearms have many uses: movie props, collectors items, museum pieces, objects of art, ceremonial arms, hunting weapons, self-defense weapons, sport weapons of various sorts, survival tools, scientific study or experiments, and no doubt others.
It seems very reasonable to blame those with the greatest share for wealth and power for the current state of society, rather than the impoverished and marginalized.
It may seem reasonable, but it largely isn't. It is just another set of scapegoats used to rally people. They don't make the countless individual decisions that people make as to how to act in their day to day live, what values they have, and how they act on them.
The position you reference has a long and bloody heritage too. You only need to look at the Marxist revolutions that have taken place around the world leading to mass murder and the impoverishment of entire nations due to misguided values.
People keep trying to claim that corporations are evil, or that they run the government. Can you show me one vote cast by a corporation in the Senate? Corporation is just a word for things we do together voluntarily.
...just try to get some HCl or H2O2 in Europe today
High concentration solutions of H2O2 are almost certainly under controls due to the popularity of TATP as an improvised explosive among terrorist groups. H2O2 is a key ingredient for that.
TAPT was used in the London bombings in 2005.
It would be strange, don't you think, for people that advocate gun control to oppose controls on bomb making materials?
Fuck off and die. Failing that, move to a country that doesn't even pretend to be free. I hear North Korea is nice this time of year.
Guilty of what? What do you think I accused him of?
Your post is little more than a hateful troll, and the fact that it has positive moderation is a testament to the pitiful standards of some people doing moderation.
The sale of cold medicine containing pseudoephedrine is limited to behind the counter. The amount of pseudoephedrine that an individual can purchase each month is limited and individuals are required to present photo identification to purchase products containing pseudoephedrine.
It's probably more of a training issue than anything. Do you want to be responsible for your employees getting the special rule for Nyquil D right?
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Mod up.
The AC reply to you has it right. Your post willfully misrepresents what is in the article to trick people into not reading it. It's an old game on Slashdot.
It's a pity so many people are either being taken in by it, or modding you up. Congratulations on a successful fraud.
No. Nobody fucking did! Why? Because there weren't any! If there were, he would have gone to the fucking ambulance and had them treat him instead of standing around.
How inconvenient for you.
Darren Wilson told investigators he was trapped in his car by Brown, New York Times reports
Wilson told authorities Brown reached for the officer’s gun during a struggle inside his police SUV, the Times reported. The gun fired twice inside the car. One bullet hit Brown in the arm and the other bullet missed him, the Times reported. Brown was unarmed.
Brown’s blood was found on Wilson’s gun, uniform, and the inside of the vehicle door, the Times reported. Wilson said Brown “punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck,” the Times said.
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I deny jack-booted thugs the right to offense!
No, you seem to be supporting Brown who demonstrated himself to be a thug by attacking the store clerk while stealing, fortunately it was captured on video.
Do you deny the fact that you're a fascist asshole?
Yes. Fascism isn't compatible with my philosophy. Of course I am often attacked by "fascist assholes," so if the shoe fits ....
You have more logical fallacies in your post than you do sentences. ... TFA and my argument was regarding the establishment abusing power in order to control the narrative. Officer Wilson's alleged injuries are not relevant.
You seem to be suffering amnesia. Do you remember this statement in your post?
Back on point, they have already said that the cop that shot Michael Brown would probably not face any charges, even what should be obviously excessive use of force.
You are making a specific claim that the force used by Officer Wilson was excessive, a potential criminal offense. Furthermore, you state that it was "obvious." So let's continue to examine your statements.
Officer Wilson's alleged injuries are not relevant. Worse, the officer was not reported to be harmed at the scene, received no medical treatment on the scene, or even after he was removed from the location.
You have it backwards. Officer Wilsons injuries are a critical point. If Wilson was attacked and injured he was legally justified to defend himself from the attacker. As is your custom you either ignore or are ignorant of the relevant facts of the matter, to wit:
Darren Wilson told investigators he was trapped in his car by Brown, New York Times reports
Wilson told authorities Brown reached for the officer’s gun during a struggle inside his police SUV, the Times reported. The gun fired twice inside the car. One bullet hit Brown in the arm and the other bullet missed him, the Times reported. Brown was unarmed.
Brown’s blood was found on Wilson’s gun, uniform, and the inside of the vehicle door, the Times reported. Wilson said Brown “punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck,” the Times said.
Well, it seems you are wrong, he was attacked and injured. That puts your unfounded claim of excessive force into the realm of falsehoods.
So you start with a Strawman and cum hoc ergo propter hoc, then move to Argumentum ad verecundiam and appeal to assertion.
No amount of spurious application of Latin phrases can create missing facts, remedy false claims, or compensate for your mistaken ideas.
Argumentum ad populum, or perhaps argumentum ad numerum. No you don't know, and no the populace does not agree with you.
In your case it would be false argument ad nauseam.
Would you care to go another round shill? I do mean shill with all of it's interesting implications, since whether you are paid or not you have a history of arguing as a pro-establishment mouth piece.
Back to ad hominem? I guess you have your "game" back. You have a history of crank theories, false claims, and recently adhering to the adversaries of the US as you've become a shill for Russian aggression. You're a mouthpiece for bad ideas of all sorts. No wonder you are so popular on Slashdot.
Back on point, they have already said that the cop that shot Michael Brown would probably not face any charges, even what should be obviously excessive use of force.
The problem is that many things that are "obvious" to you are wrong. Did you inspect officer Wilson's injuries? The coroner's reports? The physical evidence of struggle inside the police car?
Do you deny officer's the right to self defense? Or is it open season for police officers for you?
So the trend of Police brutality and corruption will continue, until of course people just start killing dirty cops. I don't advocate vigilantism, but at a certain point people will see there is no choice.
I guess we know now.
Will no one rid me of the troublesome priest?
... this seems like a bad ticket to ride on.
He can't help it, he has a subscription.
I can understand your confusion since President Obama and I have never been seen together in the same room, but I assure you I am not President Obama.
Are you incapable of reading three sentences at once?
I could ask you the same thing. Did you not read this?
But fact is more Americans voted for Democrats and they don't have the majority in the House. In a well designed system the House should match the vote. It does not.
His metric is irrelevant under the US Constitution at the national level. More Republicans voted for Democrats in more districts in the House races. That is why the House looks like it does.
And perhaps this knowledge will shock you, but Democrats have been observed gerrymandering as well.
While I'll admit the system we have with government controls on districts based on peoples' party affiliation is better, surely that's not enough to actually make the system seem good.
The current system is better than his likely alternatives.
Okay, I'll bite on the clickbait subject. How again is this News For Nerds?
Remember the countless discussions about Net Neutrality, copyright and fair use, funding for science, civil rights, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the NSA/FBI/CIA, and so on? Remember the sometimes sanctimonious use of, "WE THE PEOPLE" and the limits of government? We are at the point now where citizens give feedback on whose policies they want. It's called voting. If you're an American, you've ever complained about one of the previously mentioned topics and you don't vote, then you are an idiot.
Is there any word on which gang of Republicans were moving his arm when he signed the extension of the Patriot Act?
Good luck with that.
But fact is more Americans voted for Democrats and they don't have the majority in the House. In a well designed system the House should match the vote. It does not.
The House matches the relevant vote perfectly - ever district that had a Republican win is represented by a Republican. When a Democrat wins the district is represented by a Democrat. That is the only metric that matters under the Constitution. Or do you plan to start instituting government controls on where people can live based on their party affiliation?
I don't know why you keep focusing on that irrelevant idea.
There are some important things they'll be able to get done. The changes in the rules of the Senate that the Democrats under Harry Reid put in place will see to that. But now the shoe will be on the other foot.
The Republicans won the house after losing popular vote.
There is no nationwide "popular vote" for House seats. The election is district by district for House seats. Excess Democratic votes in a district in Los Angeles don't matter for an election in Dallas, Texas. The people that keep claiming that are either confused or engaging in dishonest rhetoric.
Do Democrats Always Win Close Statewide Elections?
. For whatever reason, when statewide races are decided by less than 1 point, Democrats win almost three-quarters of the time. When the margin opens to 1-2 points, that advantage dissipates, and the Democrats win only half the races:
So you'd say that we should ban the sale of bomb making materials, do I get that right?
Not really. I explained why it was under restriction, I didn't really take a position on it.
Ok, let's see what I can come up without spending time to ponder. Petrol, drain cleaner, natural gas, fertilizer, battery acid, glass cleaner and with a bit of electricity, water.
Let's ban all that, ok?
Why don't you start the ball rolling?
I must admit that I am intrigued that you have found something in Europe that displeases you.
Hydrogen peroxide has pretty much one use: act as a chemical reagent. The reactions it can participate in are varied, one of which is making explosives. There is considerable societal interest in regulating its use in chemical relations leading to the production of explosives.
Firearms have many uses: movie props, collectors items, museum pieces, objects of art, ceremonial arms, hunting weapons, self-defense weapons, sport weapons of various sorts, survival tools, scientific study or experiments, and no doubt others.
If you believe that I have some choice swampland to sell you.
It seems very reasonable to blame those with the greatest share for wealth and power for the current state of society, rather than the impoverished and marginalized.
It may seem reasonable, but it largely isn't. It is just another set of scapegoats used to rally people. They don't make the countless individual decisions that people make as to how to act in their day to day live, what values they have, and how they act on them.
The position you reference has a long and bloody heritage too. You only need to look at the Marxist revolutions that have taken place around the world leading to mass murder and the impoverishment of entire nations due to misguided values.
People keep trying to claim that corporations are evil, or that they run the government. Can you show me one vote cast by a corporation in the Senate? Corporation is just a word for things we do together voluntarily.
...just try to get some HCl or H2O2 in Europe today
High concentration solutions of H2O2 are almost certainly under controls due to the popularity of TATP as an improvised explosive among terrorist groups. H2O2 is a key ingredient for that.
TAPT was used in the London bombings in 2005.
It would be strange, don't you think, for people that advocate gun control to oppose controls on bomb making materials?
So your argument is guilty until proven innocent?
Fuck off and die. Failing that, move to a country that doesn't even pretend to be free. I hear North Korea is nice this time of year.
Guilty of what? What do you think I accused him of?
Your post is little more than a hateful troll, and the fact that it has positive moderation is a testament to the pitiful standards of some people doing moderation.
As I said....
I refer you to Opportunists statement:
But now I know what else you can do with that crap. Thanks law enforcement, I wouldn't even have thought about that!
I refer you to Opportunist's previous statement:
"Dual use my ass. Name any chemical and I'll find a way to make a bomb out of that crap."
You didn't evaluate my statement properly, and you drew wild conclusions. Please indicate where you think I suggested he should be in jail?
Please up your game.
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The sale of cold medicine containing pseudoephedrine is limited to behind the counter. The amount of pseudoephedrine that an individual can purchase each month is limited and individuals are required to present photo identification to purchase products containing pseudoephedrine.
It's probably more of a training issue than anything. Do you want to be responsible for your employees getting the special rule for Nyquil D right?