I'm going to second this. I've been running the KDE edition of F19 for a while now on my secondary work machine (Phenom II x4, 8GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT) without issue. While I don't do everything on there I do on my main machine, I haven't experienced a single crash or hint of instability. (Main machine is a FX-8130, 16GB RAM, Radeon HD 5770. I also have Steam and VMWare workstation installed on here. Almost all of the issues I have stability wise are related to the ATI graphics card (though systemd and GRUB 2 still cause me grief. Firewalld has not been an issue, I will note)).
That doesn't mean you're using VT-d, which is different from VT-x. Are you using PCI pass through ? Hint - if you're using a virtual graphics card (vbox acceleration , VMware tools, etc) then you are not using VT-d
Fascinating, I might have to give that a try (I guess on my AMD box (FX-8120), since I have an i5-3570K). I had thought about it before, but never really tried to pull it off.
No it doesn't. Look up the difference between VT and VT-d. The i5-3570K does not have VT-d (I was aware of that when I bought mine). This feature is only used by Xen and HyperV (I can't speak for ESX) for very specific functions.
Comparison for you (scroll down so you can see VT-d, VPro, and Trusted Execution):
Lost an Athlon last year that was being used in a NAS due to the cooling fan locking up (it was a second gen athlon, before they had thermal shutdown....)
Notice that VT-d is disabled, not VT. VT-d allows a hardware device to be passed directly from the hypervisor to a virtual machine (such as a video card). This is only used in HypverV, Xen, and (I think) VMWare ESX, none of which are desktop products. I use VMWare Workstation and Virtualbox quite often (although I'm warming up to KVM) on both AMD and Intel, with no ill effects from either side. Please be informed about what you're saying Intel is screwing us on, and you'll see that 90% of the people that use these features aren't even effected.
1 - If you're buying an i5 or i7, chances are you're using more then the average user (especially if you're going with an i7). 2 - The processors in question are desktop processors, not the mobile ones.
The search functionality is integrated with Explorer (and the start menu) due to improvements in indexing, etc. I find it an improvement that a separate search program isn't needed any longer (much like Spotlight in OS X).
That only applies in a truly open market. When all you see in Best Buy and Wal-Mart are Windows machines, why would the user pick Linux? It's not an option for them.
Sounds like you should just stick to the big players - RHEL and Novell. The Linux Standard Base, which designed to meet your goals, is largely ignored.
There is also the stability you get when you buy a complete desktop OS from the same vendor, with everything from the kernel to the UI because closely coordinated. This is better than the Linux approach of fiefdoms with everything being plugged together by the distros, praying that updating one package won't break another package because it's often impossible to test all the possible configuration variables.
nvidia + Linux is a much nicer experience then the AMD cards. Driver support from AMD just hasn't caught up. KDE does a pretty good job with audio device selection, can't say I've tried in MATE or Cinnamon.
Yes, but Microsoft Office fails at that. We had a.docx created in Word 2013 not open in 2007 recently, and macros in Excel 2010 not work in 2007. And don't even try crossing versions of Access.
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Hmm....GIMP depends on GTK....which stands for GIMP Took Kit....
A lot of programs (looking at the GNOME DE) do have issues due to naming - which is why the MATE project had to change the program names.
RazorQT is getting there. Been using it as a DE on some older systems (think P4 era). Have that next to TDE on one laptop.
I'm going to second this. I've been running the KDE edition of F19 for a while now on my secondary work machine (Phenom II x4, 8GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT) without issue. While I don't do everything on there I do on my main machine, I haven't experienced a single crash or hint of instability. (Main machine is a FX-8130, 16GB RAM, Radeon HD 5770. I also have Steam and VMWare workstation installed on here. Almost all of the issues I have stability wise are related to the ATI graphics card (though systemd and GRUB 2 still cause me grief. Firewalld has not been an issue, I will note)).
You forgot Windows 95 OSR2
Fine by me. Oh wait, my system is hardened against that as a normal user....
That doesn't mean you're using VT-d, which is different from VT-x. Are you using PCI pass through ? Hint - if you're using a virtual graphics card (vbox acceleration , VMware tools, etc) then you are not using VT-d
Including mycleanpc.com....
Fascinating, I might have to give that a try (I guess on my AMD box (FX-8120), since I have an i5-3570K). I had thought about it before, but never really tried to pull it off.
Is it really? I missed them getting added (at least to vbox, I'm not so familiar with kvm). Might have to try it out on my AMD box (FX-8120)
No it doesn't. Look up the difference between VT and VT-d. The i5-3570K does not have VT-d (I was aware of that when I bought mine). This feature is only used by Xen and HyperV (I can't speak for ESX) for very specific functions.
Comparison for you (scroll down so you can see VT-d, VPro, and Trusted Execution):
Sandy Bridge:
i5-2500K: http://ark.intel.com/products/52210
i5-2500: http://ark.intel.com/products/52209
Ivy Bridge:
i5-3570K: http://ark.intel.com/products/65520
i5-3570: http://ark.intel.com/products/65702
Lost an Athlon last year that was being used in a NAS due to the cooling fan locking up (it was a second gen athlon, before they had thermal shutdown....)
Notice that VT-d is disabled, not VT. VT-d allows a hardware device to be passed directly from the hypervisor to a virtual machine (such as a video card). This is only used in HypverV, Xen, and (I think) VMWare ESX, none of which are desktop products. I use VMWare Workstation and Virtualbox quite often (although I'm warming up to KVM) on both AMD and Intel, with no ill effects from either side. Please be informed about what you're saying Intel is screwing us on, and you'll see that 90% of the people that use these features aren't even effected.
Well, I would, for one. Unless you're using Xen or HyperV, VT-d doesn't really benefit you.
Some remarks:
1 - If you're buying an i5 or i7, chances are you're using more then the average user (especially if you're going with an i7).
2 - The processors in question are desktop processors, not the mobile ones.
The search functionality is integrated with Explorer (and the start menu) due to improvements in indexing, etc. I find it an improvement that a separate search program isn't needed any longer (much like Spotlight in OS X).
I think they're trying to link this to saying Mars probably had an atmosphere at one point in time.
That only applies in a truly open market. When all you see in Best Buy and Wal-Mart are Windows machines, why would the user pick Linux? It's not an option for them.
Sounds like you should just stick to the big players - RHEL and Novell. The Linux Standard Base, which designed to meet your goals, is largely ignored.
There is a calendar plugin for Thuderbird that will fix that.
There is also the stability you get when you buy a complete desktop OS from the same vendor, with everything from the kernel to the UI because closely coordinated. This is better than the Linux approach of fiefdoms with everything being plugged together by the distros, praying that updating one package won't break another package because it's often impossible to test all the possible configuration variables.
Sounds like you want OS X instead.
Open Office handles 90% of what users need, so I'd hardly say it's playing catch up. Maybe you use that remaining 10% that isn't in OO.
You forgot the DOS EDIT program for one of them.
nvidia + Linux is a much nicer experience then the AMD cards. Driver support from AMD just hasn't caught up. KDE does a pretty good job with audio device selection, can't say I've tried in MATE or Cinnamon.
Ain't that the truth. After the new start menu in Vista, I had a hard time using XP and earlier. Oh, and Win+D is the greatest key combo ever.
Yes, but Microsoft Office fails at that. We had a .docx created in Word 2013 not open in 2007 recently, and macros in Excel 2010 not work in 2007. And don't even try crossing versions of Access.