Some people have figured out that wining and dining can get you lucrative government contracts (can anybody come up with a single valid reason why Diebold are still in the supply chain?), but "cheap" isn't a suitable adjective.
The person in front of you paid for a reclining seat, you don't get to decide if they get it or not.
No they didn't.
Where in their contract does it say "reclining seat"?
What happens if there's no reclining seats on the 'plane (it happens)? Do they all go and reclaim their money or do they just say "goddammit!" and move on?
The only 'fair' thing is for people to simply pay the 'real' costs of conveying them, whatever function of mass, volume, height, width, depth that might be.
Fine, so long as the airline provides a service in line with the charging structure.
Taller seats with extra legroom for tall people, wider seats for fat people, small seats for small people/children.
Lately though I only fly RyanAir. They have non-reclining seats and you can pay $10 for a seat in the exit row. People moan about RyanAir surcharges but they're my favorite airline. And do people really expect they can fly for only $10? Let's be realistic...the problem is in their unrealistic expectations, not the surcharges.
If the seats recline then people should be entitled to use them. I personally can sleep better in a reclined seat although the quality of sleep still sucks.
In your utopia people would ask before reclining and I'd have the right to point to my knees and say "sorry".
Until then, I have the right to make their lives as hellish as they're making mine. I'll knee them in the back every time they look like they're nodding off, I'll aim my air nozzle at their head, whatever amuses me.
We're talking about real physical pain here. To me that cancels out any "rights" they think they have to invade my space.
just buy a business class ticket on a commercial flight instead. You'll get free bags, move to the front of the queue at security, board first, get a comfortable seat, legroom, free meals and still money over flying privately..
RyanAir does all that for $10 extra.
(The priority boarding and reserved aisle seat... not the free bags+meals)
The real solution is to make seats where the seat back stays upright but the bottom of the seat moves forwards. That way they're the one who loses leg room, not the person behind them.
Or do what Ryan Air does - let me pay $10 extra to reserve a seat in the exit row. I don't mind paying $10 extra for leg room.
Let's be honest thogh: BMI is junk science from the 19th century era of quack medicine. The math is obviously all wrong (take a look at the formula!).
It fits people in the middle of the height range quite well but a few inches either side it devolves into "laughable". All tall people are massively obese, all short people are dangerously underweight.
I do not share this experience. Typically, when the seat in front of me is pushed back, it collides with my knee-caps, sometimes in a fairly painful manner.
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Why does an early warning system need to be 'fast'?
A latency in minutes won't make much difference to the general population. It just gives them an extra minute of panic.
"Cheap"?
Some people have figured out that wining and dining can get you lucrative government contracts (can anybody come up with a single valid reason why Diebold are still in the supply chain?), but "cheap" isn't a suitable adjective.
For the first time - children in our schools will learn the new language of computer coding.'
That's a lie.
I was taught BASIC in a UK school back in the 1980s (on a Commodore PET...)
What's next? iPads for every child to learn 'coding' on? (it's government+payola so that wouldn't surprise me...)
The BBC already did this back in 1982:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMWEiCdsfc
(Warning: Actual typing of computer code on TV...)
It's amazing what a couple of sneezes will do to correct the problem.
I never thought of that one!
Some wheezing and a few really chesty coughs over their head? Added to my arsenal.
The person in front of you paid for a reclining seat, you don't get to decide if they get it or not.
No they didn't.
Where in their contract does it say "reclining seat"?
What happens if there's no reclining seats on the 'plane (it happens)? Do they all go and reclaim their money or do they just say "goddammit!" and move on?
The only 'fair' thing is for people to simply pay the 'real' costs of conveying them, whatever function of mass, volume, height, width, depth that might be.
Fine, so long as the airline provides a service in line with the charging structure.
Taller seats with extra legroom for tall people, wider seats for fat people, small seats for small people/children.
Always spend the money to upgrade to a seat with extra leg-room. It makes flights so much better for a tall person.
Yep, $500 extra for a seat in business class is a realistic option for everybody.
Not.
Heh. I've done that, too.
Lately though I only fly RyanAir. They have non-reclining seats and you can pay $10 for a seat in the exit row. People moan about RyanAir surcharges but they're my favorite airline. And do people really expect they can fly for only $10? Let's be realistic...the problem is in their unrealistic expectations, not the surcharges.
Hopefully you don't slam your seat back like some people do.
Everybody knows the seats recline further if you throw yourself at them...
If the seats recline then people should be entitled to use them. I personally can sleep better in a reclined seat although the quality of sleep still sucks.
In your utopia people would ask before reclining and I'd have the right to point to my knees and say "sorry".
Until then, I have the right to make their lives as hellish as they're making mine. I'll knee them in the back every time they look like they're nodding off, I'll aim my air nozzle at their head, whatever amuses me.
We're talking about real physical pain here. To me that cancels out any "rights" they think they have to invade my space.
just buy a business class ticket on a commercial flight instead. You'll get free bags, move to the front of the queue at security, board first, get a comfortable seat, legroom, free meals and still money over flying privately..
RyanAir does all that for $10 extra.
(The priority boarding and reserved aisle seat ... not the free bags+meals)
They're my favorite airline...
The real solution is to make seats where the seat back stays upright but the bottom of the seat moves forwards. That way they're the one who loses leg room, not the person behind them.
Or do what Ryan Air does - let me pay $10 extra to reserve a seat in the exit row. I don't mind paying $10 extra for leg room.
Their seat?
My air vent... :-)
Me? I think I have more right not to be in physical pain for hours then they do to recline their seat.
It's not like it reclines enough to make a real difference to them anyway. And they hardly ever do it to "sleep".
I'm "only" about 180cm but
180cm is fairly average height, no need to put it quotes. Call me when you're over 190.
Does it say so on their ticket?
Denying the person in front some sleep just so you are more comfortable is wrong.
Did they pay for a bed...?
BMI gets less useful as someone's height
That's one way of putting it.
Let's be honest thogh: BMI is junk science from the 19th century era of quack medicine. The math is obviously all wrong (take a look at the formula!).
It fits people in the middle of the height range quite well but a few inches either side it devolves into "laughable". All tall people are massively obese, all short people are dangerously underweight.
The sooner we junk it, the better.
Why should I pay the same as someone who weighs 2 or 3 times as much as I do?
Collateral damage.
Some people are obese, yes, and should be charged more in a fair world.
But... some people are heavier simply because they're tall. That's something they can't help, they were born that way.
At 6'1" and 230 your Body Mass Index is over 30 - obese.
It might be, if BMI wasn't junk science from the 19th century and didn't only approximate people in the middle of the height range.
(clue: We're three dimensional, we grow in three dimensions, out mass changes as a cubic function of height)
Americans have their seat padding built-in and carry it around with them.
...you also win one (1) free head right in front of your face. Ah, modern technology. :)
Pro tip: Aim your air vent right at their head when they do that. It annoys the hell out of them.
I do not share this experience. Typically, when the seat in front of me is pushed back, it collides with my knee-caps, sometimes in a fairly painful manner.
http://www.gadgetduck.com/goods/kneedefender.html
Actually, sounds more like LabView.
Fishing through that programming environment's icon set for the correct function is very close to what I imagine hell must be like.
They have an icon for every possible programming function?
http://www.devtopics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image6.png