Listen, the obvious lie here is your original post. Not only does it indicate you are a liar, it also shows that you lack sense and hide behind a banner of logic, all the while your posts are devoid of anything resembling logic.
You are quick to poison the well with your childish, error-ridden poorly spelled and typed posts. A I suggested before, it helps to actually learn a bit about logic before you attempt to QED somebody.
Additionally, your sock puppeting antics are laughable, as I pointed out before, because you're condemning that very behavior in other people. You have a bad case of Internet tough guy syndrome, a slight case of mental retardation, a bad grasp of grammar and logic (and probably all the liberal arts and sciences) and you are childish beyond imagination. I know six year olds that are not only smarter than you, but they type better as well.
So, I guess my point is that you should get the fuck off the Internet now.
Absolutely, it allows that. Unfortunately the liberal interpretation of the phrase "well regulated" has quashed that particular freedom.
In the old days, it was perfectly legal to arm a civilian ship with as many cannon as you could afford. We actually begged private captains to do this, then gave them licenses to kick the crap out of British sailing ships and take the booty!
As you said, in the age of modern militaries, it isn't sensible to disallow the use of weapons that would be effective against armor and air power, as the point of the 2nd amendment is not hunting and target shooting, but violent overthrow of a government out of control.
No, I will blame the politicians, most of whom are lawyers, for crafting a system that benefits their clan.
Almost every one of the problems in America can be blamed on our professional political class, more than 80% of whom are lawyers. It really is that cut and dried.
Not only are you having difficulties spelling and making sense, you are having difficulties with attitude.
It's OK to admit your mind is bankrupt. In fact, you just did with your post here, along with all the other posts you have made today.
Your argument is not coherently stated, your premise has holes, and your rudeness belies your childish nature.
Processors already scale their power consumption to the load, and the load is extreme when Flash is running. Cutting off Flash makes the battery last much longer. Computational necessity is what we are talking about here, and when a person's machine is running Flash for the usual purposes, ie, video, web games, and advertising spam, the computer is working harder. Again, you want to talk about a logical model of a computer, that exists in your mind. Everybody else here is talking about actual computers.
You can not apply logic to a problem if your premises and preambles are not adequate. Yours, sadly, are not. Your childish sense of humor is refreshing, though. Especially ironic upon review of this little Slashdot sock puppet account you created, is that you berate others for doing what you are guilty of yourself. If I had to bet money, I would guess you are left of center on the political spectrum, have been involved in minor misdemeanors, and have never had any contact with the opposite sex.
This statement is to be expected from a serial liar like Soetoro. The fact is that he went over there to try to sell our bonds, and the Indians wanted more jobs in return. The real magic is that, while Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama says one thing and does another, many people are still caught in his specially crafted, Kenya-Indonesian magic spell of hope and change. I for one hope his particular brand of change will stop fucking over the collective asses of America soon.
I never actually expected a serial liar to suddenly tell the truth, but I thought he would be smarter than this. The labor unions are his best little ass-kissing buddies and I bet they feel like they were raped after his announcement. Of course this is a good thing, I am sick of supporting those vampirers with endless bridge to nowhere infrastructure giveaways.
Outside the major cities, our freeways are running at something like 3% capacity. Better build more roads!
Oh I forgot, we still need to blame Bush for everything, and praise Soetorobama for getting "conversations" started with his massive failures, every one of which can be blamed on Bush and the deniers. Excuse me while I go sing the Obama song they taught to the elementary school kids here.
I see you understand rhetoric, not logic. That is, when your logical quiver is full, you shoot out insults instead of sensible statements.
It is also clear that you have no idea what you are talking about when you try to make a point about computing. If I had to apply Lewis Carrol's Game of Logic to you, I'd arrive at the conclusion that you are full of shit and are not worth my time. However, I didn't need any tools to realize this.
Let me rephrase, and give you a chance to redeem your sorry ass. First, remember we are talking about actual computers and their actual battery life, not the Platonic ideal of a computer enshrined in an imaginary laptop of the mind. Once you have that premise firmly in mind, and if you can understand it, answer these simple queries:
1. With modern processors, which draw dynamic amounts of power proportionate to the load on the system, how could a high load imposed by an inefficient program like the Flash runtime NOT cause the battery to drain faster?
2. If you took two light bulbs, one 100w Edison threaded household bulb, and one very small typical christmas tree bulb, and hooked both to identically sized and charged batteries, which battery would exhaust its power supply first?
Wait, are you seriously asserting that language tuning is the sole reason that computers are faster these days? It has nothing to do with the vast speed increases in the CPUs and buses? If you take a modern Java and stick it on an original 1995 era Pentium, I think somehow it will be even slower than Java 1.0 was, as the horsepower needed to do JIT is pretty significant when you look at the actual computing power of an old ass computer.
Look at gigantic web operations like Facebook. They are running what you denigrate as "scripting languages" as one of the main components of an absolutely enormous operation. They are throwing money at the problem and speed is increasing.
Also, I believe that Java is a lot older than Ruby and Python. Both of which have gotten much, much faster in the past few years as companies are throwing money at tuning them.
There is nothing special about Java's speed increases, and the same increases can be had in damn near any language if attention is given where it is needed.
There's nothing special about Java. And Java is indeed the shining pinnacle of a language that's stuck in the 1990s.
What's your point? That it is excusable in either case? That he's just emulating his heroes?
This is just like the most common argument brought up by Israelis who are in favor of illegal settlement expansion. "Oh you Americans have no right to complain, you did the same thing to the indians a century or two ago."
You are so full of shit that it's leaking out your mouth buddy.
He prevented them from expressing their views. That is illegal, and the hijacking of other people's computers, possibly preventing them from accomplishing their jobs or expressing their own thoughts, is also rank.
Using bots installed illicitly on other people's machines to flood out somebody you do not like is not freedom of speech. In fact, the kind of thinking you have exhibited here is quite disturbing.
Next you will claim that if he murdered these people, that's not a big deal either, because of the free press they'd get. Whoever raised you didn't do a very good job instilling morality, and I would expect with a mind as juvenile as yours you can rationalize anything.
It's pretty lame to create a brand new account to give yourself an air of legitimacy, when a post like this is the result.
Your real UID is probably hard at work on this very thread, bitching out the damn porn producers for having the AUDACITY for filing a lawsuit to protect their work.
Whereas Liberals have no respect for the constitution, except to use the Interstate Commerce clause to broaden their mandate.
Look at all the bullshit that has been spread because of a liberal interpretation of the phrase "well regulated" in the second amendment. That phrase is not an allowance for endless red tape, and it in fact means that everybody should be using standard calibers in their guns.
Liberal interpretation (politically) of the constitution has always been about twisting the intent of the document to match the completely non-matching intent of the liberal politician.
When has Oracle ever been an "open source company?"
They will use free geek help when it contributes to their bottom line. They are not interested in making a shiny happy world for poor children in Burma. Do you think Oracle contributes to Linux because they want to feel good about themselves?
They do it because Linux is widely known, and Linux admins are a commodity. There's a lesson here somewhere, for those that pay attention.
The problem is that an unbacked currency, combined with the now accepted idea of monetizing debt, has already caused hyperinflation.
Bankers realized that making worthless money from cotton is so much more profitable than anything else they ever tried. Coin money, backed by itself, is more or less inflation proof. Supply and demand take care of the rest. So population increases faster than the gold supply, that just means that goods will cost less as there is less money chasing them. The actual amount of gold per human is moot. The people who save in such an economy don't need to gamble in the market just to maintain their wealth. All they need is a jar and a backyard.
The real magic trick was convincing people that worthless paper has some sort of value. Paper money, backed by debt, is only good for bankers and stealing resources from brown people.
OpenCL is made for something like an Atom. When you start talking about number crunching, serious numeric computation, an Atom along with a couple of GPUs makes a hell of a lot more sense than almost anything else. Especially when you are talking about thousands of these machines.
You seem to have an obsession about the Atom and its inadequacy for most tasks. Guess what? They sell reams and shitloads of Atom boards to the server market, and I know of several big ass rooms that are just fucking chock full of nothing but Atom boards with GPUs just in my town alone.
The money saved by this solution, versus your more standard "throw a bunch of blade servers at it" approach is now coming into the millions, JUST IN POWER while the work per second per dollar is almost ten times that of a non-OpenCL solution.
We have 2 desktops and one HTPC storing most data on an Atom 330, just using its internal SATA and IDE connectors, and it never even hiccups. ZFS is a beautiful thing.
I also have seen these computers deployed in helicopters and fixed wing craft, in remote (read: tent and tiny generator) applications, in cars, and other places you wouldn't want to put a screaming server into mainly for power consumption issues.
Ironically, this is similar to what people were saying about Java when it was new. Oh, it's cute and good for little whizzy web apps, but it will never cut it on the server.
Well guess what Matilda, as machines get more powerful people program in higher level languages.
In response to your point 1, Atom processors are used for a lot more than netbooks these days. It is not uncommon to find them in all sorts of servers.
People buy Atom motherboards and use them for all kinds of uses. Hell, for most people an Atom is all they need to their day to day work.
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Listen, the obvious lie here is your original post. Not only does it indicate you are a liar, it also shows that you lack sense and hide behind a banner of logic, all the while your posts are devoid of anything resembling logic.
You are quick to poison the well with your childish, error-ridden poorly spelled and typed posts. A I suggested before, it helps to actually learn a bit about logic before you attempt to QED somebody.
Additionally, your sock puppeting antics are laughable, as I pointed out before, because you're condemning that very behavior in other people. You have a bad case of Internet tough guy syndrome, a slight case of mental retardation, a bad grasp of grammar and logic (and probably all the liberal arts and sciences) and you are childish beyond imagination. I know six year olds that are not only smarter than you, but they type better as well.
So, I guess my point is that you should get the fuck off the Internet now.
Absolutely, it allows that. Unfortunately the liberal interpretation of the phrase "well regulated" has quashed that particular freedom.
In the old days, it was perfectly legal to arm a civilian ship with as many cannon as you could afford. We actually begged private captains to do this, then gave them licenses to kick the crap out of British sailing ships and take the booty!
As you said, in the age of modern militaries, it isn't sensible to disallow the use of weapons that would be effective against armor and air power, as the point of the 2nd amendment is not hunting and target shooting, but violent overthrow of a government out of control.
No, I will blame the politicians, most of whom are lawyers, for crafting a system that benefits their clan.
Almost every one of the problems in America can be blamed on our professional political class, more than 80% of whom are lawyers. It really is that cut and dried.
Roads that are needed to ship more jobs out of the USA and Canada. Perfect.
I guess if you are in the construction unions you'll take anything, even if it means selling out all your neighbors and countrymen.
He will rub his face on them, popping unnumbered infected zits and probably causing a nasty skin infection.
Not only are you having difficulties spelling and making sense, you are having difficulties with attitude.
It's OK to admit your mind is bankrupt. In fact, you just did with your post here, along with all the other posts you have made today.
Your argument is not coherently stated, your premise has holes, and your rudeness belies your childish nature.
Processors already scale their power consumption to the load, and the load is extreme when Flash is running. Cutting off Flash makes the battery last much longer. Computational necessity is what we are talking about here, and when a person's machine is running Flash for the usual purposes, ie, video, web games, and advertising spam, the computer is working harder. Again, you want to talk about a logical model of a computer, that exists in your mind. Everybody else here is talking about actual computers.
You can not apply logic to a problem if your premises and preambles are not adequate. Yours, sadly, are not. Your childish sense of humor is refreshing, though. Especially ironic upon review of this little Slashdot sock puppet account you created, is that you berate others for doing what you are guilty of yourself. If I had to bet money, I would guess you are left of center on the political spectrum, have been involved in minor misdemeanors, and have never had any contact with the opposite sex.
This statement is to be expected from a serial liar like Soetoro. The fact is that he went over there to try to sell our bonds, and the Indians wanted more jobs in return. The real magic is that, while Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama says one thing and does another, many people are still caught in his specially crafted, Kenya-Indonesian magic spell of hope and change. I for one hope his particular brand of change will stop fucking over the collective asses of America soon.
I never actually expected a serial liar to suddenly tell the truth, but I thought he would be smarter than this. The labor unions are his best little ass-kissing buddies and I bet they feel like they were raped after his announcement. Of course this is a good thing, I am sick of supporting those vampirers with endless bridge to nowhere infrastructure giveaways.
Outside the major cities, our freeways are running at something like 3% capacity. Better build more roads!
Oh I forgot, we still need to blame Bush for everything, and praise Soetorobama for getting "conversations" started with his massive failures, every one of which can be blamed on Bush and the deniers. Excuse me while I go sing the Obama song they taught to the elementary school kids here.
I see you understand rhetoric, not logic. That is, when your logical quiver is full, you shoot out insults instead of sensible statements.
It is also clear that you have no idea what you are talking about when you try to make a point about computing. If I had to apply Lewis Carrol's Game of Logic to you, I'd arrive at the conclusion that you are full of shit and are not worth my time. However, I didn't need any tools to realize this.
Let me rephrase, and give you a chance to redeem your sorry ass. First, remember we are talking about actual computers and their actual battery life, not the Platonic ideal of a computer enshrined in an imaginary laptop of the mind. Once you have that premise firmly in mind, and if you can understand it, answer these simple queries:
1. With modern processors, which draw dynamic amounts of power proportionate to the load on the system, how could a high load imposed by an inefficient program like the Flash runtime NOT cause the battery to drain faster?
2. If you took two light bulbs, one 100w Edison threaded household bulb, and one very small typical christmas tree bulb, and hooked both to identically sized and charged batteries, which battery would exhaust its power supply first?
Wait, are you seriously asserting that language tuning is the sole reason that computers are faster these days? It has nothing to do with the vast speed increases in the CPUs and buses? If you take a modern Java and stick it on an original 1995 era Pentium, I think somehow it will be even slower than Java 1.0 was, as the horsepower needed to do JIT is pretty significant when you look at the actual computing power of an old ass computer.
Look at gigantic web operations like Facebook. They are running what you denigrate as "scripting languages" as one of the main components of an absolutely enormous operation. They are throwing money at the problem and speed is increasing.
Also, I believe that Java is a lot older than Ruby and Python. Both of which have gotten much, much faster in the past few years as companies are throwing money at tuning them.
There is nothing special about Java's speed increases, and the same increases can be had in damn near any language if attention is given where it is needed.
There's nothing special about Java. And Java is indeed the shining pinnacle of a language that's stuck in the 1990s.
The people who are doing real crying now are the Commiecrats. Can we say, unelectable outside welfare markets?
What's your point? That it is excusable in either case? That he's just emulating his heroes?
This is just like the most common argument brought up by Israelis who are in favor of illegal settlement expansion. "Oh you Americans have no right to complain, you did the same thing to the indians a century or two ago."
You are so full of shit that it's leaking out your mouth buddy.
He prevented them from expressing their views. That is illegal, and the hijacking of other people's computers, possibly preventing them from accomplishing their jobs or expressing their own thoughts, is also rank.
Using bots installed illicitly on other people's machines to flood out somebody you do not like is not freedom of speech. In fact, the kind of thinking you have exhibited here is quite disturbing.
Next you will claim that if he murdered these people, that's not a big deal either, because of the free press they'd get. Whoever raised you didn't do a very good job instilling morality, and I would expect with a mind as juvenile as yours you can rationalize anything.
The point is that the fucking lawyer's job is to tie up the court system and take a third of the cash.
Lawyers can not accept the idea of other non-Lawyer people having any say-so, as it sort of ruins their scam.
It's pretty lame to create a brand new account to give yourself an air of legitimacy, when a post like this is the result.
Your real UID is probably hard at work on this very thread, bitching out the damn porn producers for having the AUDACITY for filing a lawsuit to protect their work.
What a knob.
Whereas Liberals have no respect for the constitution, except to use the Interstate Commerce clause to broaden their mandate.
Look at all the bullshit that has been spread because of a liberal interpretation of the phrase "well regulated" in the second amendment. That phrase is not an allowance for endless red tape, and it in fact means that everybody should be using standard calibers in their guns.
Liberal interpretation (politically) of the constitution has always been about twisting the intent of the document to match the completely non-matching intent of the liberal politician.
When has Oracle ever been an "open source company?"
They will use free geek help when it contributes to their bottom line. They are not interested in making a shiny happy world for poor children in Burma. Do you think Oracle contributes to Linux because they want to feel good about themselves?
They do it because Linux is widely known, and Linux admins are a commodity. There's a lesson here somewhere, for those that pay attention.
The problem is that an unbacked currency, combined with the now accepted idea of monetizing debt, has already caused hyperinflation.
Bankers realized that making worthless money from cotton is so much more profitable than anything else they ever tried. Coin money, backed by itself, is more or less inflation proof. Supply and demand take care of the rest. So population increases faster than the gold supply, that just means that goods will cost less as there is less money chasing them. The actual amount of gold per human is moot. The people who save in such an economy don't need to gamble in the market just to maintain their wealth. All they need is a jar and a backyard.
The real magic trick was convincing people that worthless paper has some sort of value. Paper money, backed by debt, is only good for bankers and stealing resources from brown people.
It's about the environment, not the actual speed of the computer.
Nothing touches a Symbolics machine for CODING IN LISP, even 25 years later.
Intel is wasting money making laptop friendly processors?
Typed from my 8 core Xeon laptop. Gotta keep it plugged in all the time, and my lap is getting sore.
You realize your cock is in your mouth. It's making you sound retarded.
Are you fucking kidding me?
OpenCL is made for something like an Atom. When you start talking about number crunching, serious numeric computation, an Atom along with a couple of GPUs makes a hell of a lot more sense than almost anything else. Especially when you are talking about thousands of these machines.
You seem to have an obsession about the Atom and its inadequacy for most tasks. Guess what? They sell reams and shitloads of Atom boards to the server market, and I know of several big ass rooms that are just fucking chock full of nothing but Atom boards with GPUs just in my town alone.
The money saved by this solution, versus your more standard "throw a bunch of blade servers at it" approach is now coming into the millions, JUST IN POWER while the work per second per dollar is almost ten times that of a non-OpenCL solution.
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Here you go, tower defense on HTML5.
NEXT!
No RAID card needed. Just gigE.
We have 2 desktops and one HTPC storing most data on an Atom 330, just using its internal SATA and IDE connectors, and it never even hiccups. ZFS is a beautiful thing.
I also have seen these computers deployed in helicopters and fixed wing craft, in remote (read: tent and tiny generator) applications, in cars, and other places you wouldn't want to put a screaming server into mainly for power consumption issues.
Ironically, this is similar to what people were saying about Java when it was new. Oh, it's cute and good for little whizzy web apps, but it will never cut it on the server.
Well guess what Matilda, as machines get more powerful people program in higher level languages.
In response to your point 1, Atom processors are used for a lot more than netbooks these days. It is not uncommon to find them in all sorts of servers.
People buy Atom motherboards and use them for all kinds of uses. Hell, for most people an Atom is all they need to their day to day work.