One thing that I would like to see happen with developers and Linux is more software engineering. I don't believe there exists any case tools or anything like that for software engineering and I am just starting to use them and see that other companies are useing them. The main reason why it isn't ported to Linux or I can't find any is because companies pay thousands of dollars for just one licence of these things.
M$ unfortantly did on step better by putting some rudimetary case tools into vc++ 6.0. Well unfortunatly for my software engineering concentration I have to try to build an ansi c++ app in vc++. If any one has had to us vc++ before ansi and M$ visual should never be in the same sentence.:)
My point being after ranting and raving is that for linux to be come a more alternative to windows nt on the developer side we will need to give them the apps they use. If we could get code warrior to have some of the features of the case tools we would be on the way. Big problem is making case tools from scratch for free is a hard tast but if we got a good number of developers working on it it wouldn't be hard.
There was a post to the linux-kernel mail list, which said that nt was optimized where linux wasn't but further said that there might be problems. I love linux don't get me wrong but I went to the sites you recommended but I saw nothing that had tests done with a comparable machine. If someone is going to set up a server then a machine like above would be great. There has been a lot of posts on the linux-kernel lists about how to further develop the smp parts. I don't know if something happened or that the people testing didn't know how to set up the linux kernel correctly. All I am saying is that we should get some numbers that are on high end server systems since this is what a manager would be more interested in instead of a small system that would be more likely a work station.
Having Linus putting his own quad to the test would be great. But would he be willing to lend his machine to this and would we be able to find the same configured machine but with windows nt?
Plus I don't know him on any personal basis and would feel foolish just sending him email out of the blue. I was more or less hopeing that some company that needed a server would be able to donate research money and have some people test out what is the best to buy. (research == practical real life tests with various bench marks)
But where is this proof shown? This report has charts and graphs much like what a manager would want to see. If you go to http://www.unix-vs-nt.org you will notice you have to do a lot of searching to find comparisions between nt and linux. Most of these comparisons are out of date. In other words a manager might rely on this report especially when cnet is reporting it and there is no counter to it.
Is there anyway what so ever to put this to the test and do a real world test. Pit a nt server against linux server and/. it? I have never used smp in my life (not enough money) and would never be able to do this type of comparison but there must be some way to do this and prove one way or the other which one is real. And I bet that there are a lot of people here that know about bench marking and which ones are the best. Is this at all possible or am I living in a dream world?
The other thing that is an issue is having an easy set up appliace that will basically do all your networking tasks. Yes linux can do this a lot better I think but can it do it with no or little configuration? The target audience for this equipment is for buisnesses that need networking between resources. One would have to make sure that any one can run this equipment when it is done. I haven't seen anyone ask this question yet (I didn't read all the posts I have to admit) but no vendor will put in linux unless they know that the customers will be able to use it and like it. It shouldn't take that long to make some scripts to make the system easy to use but does the vendor know this?
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One thing that I would like to see happen with developers and Linux is more software engineering. I don't believe there exists any case tools or anything like that for software engineering and I am just starting to use them and see that other companies are useing them. The main reason why it isn't ported to Linux or I can't find any is because companies pay thousands of dollars for just one licence of these things.
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M$ unfortantly did on step better by putting some rudimetary case tools into vc++ 6.0. Well unfortunatly for my software engineering concentration I have to try to build an ansi c++ app in vc++. If any one has had to us vc++ before ansi and M$ visual should never be in the same sentence.
My point being after ranting and raving is that for linux to be come a more alternative to windows nt on the developer side we will need to give them the apps they use. If we could get code warrior to have some of the features of the case tools we would be on the way. Big problem is making case tools from scratch for free is a hard tast but if we got a good number of developers working on it it wouldn't be hard.
There was a post to the linux-kernel mail list, which said that nt was optimized where linux wasn't but further said that there might be problems. I love linux don't get me wrong but I went to the sites you recommended but I saw nothing that had tests done with a comparable machine. If someone is going to set up a server then a machine like above would be great. There has been a lot of posts on the linux-kernel lists about how to further develop the smp parts. I don't know if something happened or that the people testing didn't know how to set up the linux kernel correctly. All I am saying is that we should get some numbers that are on high end server systems since this is what a manager would be more interested in instead of a small system that would be more likely a work station.
Having Linus putting his own quad to the test would be great. But would he be willing to lend his machine to this and would we be able to find the same configured machine but with windows nt?
Plus I don't know him on any personal basis and would feel foolish just sending him email out of the blue. I was more or less hopeing that some company that needed a server would be able to donate research money and have some people test out what is the best to buy. (research == practical real life tests with various bench marks)
But where is this proof shown? This report has charts and graphs much like what a manager would want to see. If you go to http://www.unix-vs-nt.org you will notice you have to do a lot of searching to find comparisions between nt and linux. Most of these comparisons are out of date. In other words a manager might rely on this report especially when cnet is reporting it and there is no counter to it.
/. it? I have never used smp in my life (not enough money) and would never be able to do this type of comparison but there must be some way to do this and prove one way or the other which one is real. And I bet that there are a lot of people here that know about bench marking and which ones are the best. Is this at all possible or am I living in a dream world?
Is there anyway what so ever to put this to the test and do a real world test. Pit a nt server against linux server and
The other thing that is an issue is having an easy set up appliace that will basically do all your networking tasks. Yes linux can do this a lot better I think but can it do it with no or little configuration? The target audience for this equipment is for buisnesses that need networking between resources. One would have to make sure that any one can run this equipment when it is done. I haven't seen anyone ask this question yet (I didn't read all the posts I have to admit) but no vendor will put in linux unless they know that the customers will be able to use it and like it. It shouldn't take that long to make some scripts to make the system easy to use but does the vendor know this?