I'm pretty sure that Zazzle.com is a website. I've never heard of a newspaper or magazine getting a takedown notice.
The issuance of a nonsensical trademark like this is almost certainly a result of the revolutionary nature of the WWW. Any effort to do this back in the seventies or before (patent a common symbol) was vastly harder to do. Instead of dealing with web entities (many of which will cave in rather than fight), they were dealing with publishers who had a stronger interest and better capacity to fight such nonsense.
Nowadays, we have Apple patenting rounded corners on cell phones, Microsoft patenting a method to pay for services by mouse click, etc. Until the law catches up, we're going to encounter situations like this.
I didn't say it did - I was using it as an example of the kind of legislation we're getting while law catches up with technology.
And - yes - Zazzle.com can risk millions of dollars in lawsuits instead of complying. It's not reasonable to expect them to do so, however. Businesses should always operate in a way that maximizes their short- and long-term profitability. Often, one must be balanced against the other, but being sued out of existence won't benefit them or their customers.
I shall once more put the question: how can we fix the situation? Simply assigning blame isn't enough.
Ah, that's better. I'd thought you had forgotten about me.
Gonna agree with you on this one (to an extent). An app should be able to hash itself and check the hash. Multiple hashes (whole file, individual hashes of blocks) would make this even more difficult to defeat. Now, that's not to say that a virus couldn't simply coopt the hash checking part of the code; but it would make it almost impossible for a virus to target more than one executable.
Of course, we're both offtopic on this thread (my fault). At least you've stopped spamming the board. Are you getting help with the other issues we've discussed?
Perhaps you'd better define what you mean by 'computer'. Computers existed before solid-state circuitry, and long before LSI (Large Scale Integration, or more commonly 'integrated curcuit' electronics).
Zazzle.com has no real choice but to lock this down until the legal dust settles. Unfortunately, the law is still scrambling to catch up with technology. We end up with POS legislation (such as the DMCA, for example) - legislation designed to protect government and business interests at the expense of individuals (end-users).
It does no good to note that Zazzle has "caved" in to protecting their existence against a seemingly nonsensical legal challenge. How can we fix this situation?
On the upside, UPS doesn't routinely x-ray packages or have dogs sniffing packages. On the downside, they can't stand against the US Government if they insist on doing so.
My takeaway is that UPS doesn't care what I ship, as long as it doesn't damage their business model. Unfortunately despite their size, they're not big enough to tell the gubberment to go get stuffed. Well, they could - once.
Early adopters can go ahead and buy this. They can make it economically feasible for other companies to compete in this area, driving down the price and driving up the usability.
I'll wait a few years for that to happen and buy when it's cheap and widely available - and fully consumerized. I personally can't afford to invest in leading/bleeding edge technology only to see something else become the standard. My example? Wax transfer printing. I used to own an Okimate-10 (and later and Okimate-20) printer. Great stuff. Unlike impact printing, I could have color. Well, it still exists, but only as a niche technology. Most end users nowadays (including myself) are using either color inkjet or color laser technology for printing (I own one of each). I ended up throwing both my Okimate printers away long ago, when it became impossible to find supplies for them. I'll admit it's a lot less likely for a monitor to become unsupported the way printer is; all the same, I'll wait a couple years and see where this goes before I plunk down my money for one.
You forgot the one where he knowingly and intentionally violated the law. His acts were, by definition, espionage.
Yes, he should get a reduced sentence because he was acting as a "whistle blower". Don't shoot him. Life imprisonment should suffice. Or is there anybody here naive enough to believe that other nations don't do this?
(waiting for the flood of "my country xyz doens't do this!" claims. How would you know?)
He may have played out his hand (and I deem this likely) - but you never know. He already managed to surprise the US intelligence community once.
His appearance on NBC Nightly News may have done more to damage US intelligence gathering than his other "revelations". It certainly was a gold mine for Russian propoganda producers.
. . . it's a giant step backwards. I used to be a total advocate of monolithic kernels and all executable code built locally from source, but the current method using package management (yum, apt, etc.) has been incredibly beneficial - both to administrators such as myself and for support personnel. It eliminates a whole raft of questions (what compiler was used? what switches/options were in effect? what defaults were configured?) and allows exactly what this would eliminate - the reasonable expectation that the program being supported is the same as the program that's actually installed. It also (as has been pointed out elsewhere) increases the difficulty of comprehensively testing a program prior to shipping, as it would be necessary to test code against all valid compiler options on all supported compilers. This would be bad enough for applications, but for libraries and kernel modules, it would result in a nightmare trying to ensure that code will end up running stably.
I assume kernels would be subject to the same kind of "random build" procedure. I can on.j09nxk
If we could do that, why bother leaving Earth? Seriously, if we have all of the required technologies to do this, I can't conceive any pressing reason to leave this solar system (until the Sun burns all of its hydrogen up, at which point launching the human race into space in generation ships makes more sense to me).
Most clouds I've worked with to date have been corporate clouds. No internet involved. Networks, yes; but no internet. Lag was never a problem for me in those environments.
Let's just bear in mind the old saying, "A camel is a horse designed by committee."
Hiring two fulltime dedicated programmers? Seems like a good thing to me.
Submitting their work to a separate entity for auditing and verification? Sounds like a good thing to me.
As long as the various business entities involved in the auditing stick to that mandate and don't start trying to directly influence the development or design of OpenSSL, it all sounds good to me. Otherwise, we're likely to end up with CDE, the Common Desktop Environment.
Relativistic gravity is a widely accepted theory which has (to date) produced accurate predictions.
Quantum theory is also widely accepted, and has also produced accurate predictions. Quantum gravity and relativistic gravity are mutually exclusive theories. Are both of these theories facts?
If it were, it would be called the law of evolution. An example:
The law of gravity states that any two objects in space will exert an attractive force on one another; that force is readily computed based on the total mass present and the distance between the two objects.
One theory of gravity states that objects with mass curve spacetime, and that this curvature in spacetime makes objects appear to accelerate toward each other; two objects falling towards one another are not accelerating but are obeying Newton's laws of motion. Curvature in spacetime makes the objects appear to accelerate towards one another.
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The original article, yes. The post I was responding to was incorrectly lumping all cloud technology into one big blob.
The issuance of a nonsensical trademark like this is almost certainly a result of the revolutionary nature of the WWW. Any effort to do this back in the seventies or before (patent a common symbol) was vastly harder to do. Instead of dealing with web entities (many of which will cave in rather than fight), they were dealing with publishers who had a stronger interest and better capacity to fight such nonsense.
Nowadays, we have Apple patenting rounded corners on cell phones, Microsoft patenting a method to pay for services by mouse click, etc. Until the law catches up, we're going to encounter situations like this.
And - yes - Zazzle.com can risk millions of dollars in lawsuits instead of complying. It's not reasonable to expect them to do so, however. Businesses should always operate in a way that maximizes their short- and long-term profitability. Often, one must be balanced against the other, but being sued out of existence won't benefit them or their customers.
I shall once more put the question: how can we fix the situation? Simply assigning blame isn't enough.
Gonna agree with you on this one (to an extent). An app should be able to hash itself and check the hash. Multiple hashes (whole file, individual hashes of blocks) would make this even more difficult to defeat. Now, that's not to say that a virus couldn't simply coopt the hash checking part of the code; but it would make it almost impossible for a virus to target more than one executable.
Of course, we're both offtopic on this thread (my fault). At least you've stopped spamming the board. Are you getting help with the other issues we've discussed?
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As noted elsewhere, don't tell Pluto. It's still a satellite of Sol (Sol I). It was stripped of planet status for trolling.
Perhaps you'd better define what you mean by 'computer'. Computers existed before solid-state circuitry, and long before LSI (Large Scale Integration, or more commonly 'integrated curcuit' electronics).
It does no good to note that Zazzle has "caved" in to protecting their existence against a seemingly nonsensical legal challenge. How can we fix this situation?
I see that Alex has a sock-puppet with mod points. Good to know I'm still loved! X^D
My takeaway is that UPS doesn't care what I ship, as long as it doesn't damage their business model. Unfortunately despite their size, they're not big enough to tell the gubberment to go get stuffed. Well, they could - once.
I'll wait a few years for that to happen and buy when it's cheap and widely available - and fully consumerized. I personally can't afford to invest in leading/bleeding edge technology only to see something else become the standard. My example? Wax transfer printing. I used to own an Okimate-10 (and later and Okimate-20) printer. Great stuff. Unlike impact printing, I could have color. Well, it still exists, but only as a niche technology. Most end users nowadays (including myself) are using either color inkjet or color laser technology for printing (I own one of each). I ended up throwing both my Okimate printers away long ago, when it became impossible to find supplies for them. I'll admit it's a lot less likely for a monitor to become unsupported the way printer is; all the same, I'll wait a couple years and see where this goes before I plunk down my money for one.
Really, I wish I had some experience with OpenStack or AWS - these skillsets appear to be in some demand these days.
Yes, he should get a reduced sentence because he was acting as a "whistle blower". Don't shoot him. Life imprisonment should suffice. Or is there anybody here naive enough to believe that other nations don't do this?
(waiting for the flood of "my country xyz doens't do this!" claims. How would you know?)
His appearance on NBC Nightly News may have done more to damage US intelligence gathering than his other "revelations". It certainly was a gold mine for Russian propoganda producers.
I assume kernels would be subject to the same kind of "random build" procedure. I can on.j09nxk
*core dumped*
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If we could do that, why bother leaving Earth? Seriously, if we have all of the required technologies to do this, I can't conceive any pressing reason to leave this solar system (until the Sun burns all of its hydrogen up, at which point launching the human race into space in generation ships makes more sense to me).
I've burned plenty of DVD's with absolutely no video in sight (and I fully expect to burn in Hell for a truly horrible double entendre).
Most clouds I've worked with to date have been corporate clouds. No internet involved. Networks, yes; but no internet. Lag was never a problem for me in those environments.
There are advantages and drawbacks to cloud computing; how insightful of you to point out one of the benefits in such an amusing way.
Hiring two fulltime dedicated programmers? Seems like a good thing to me.
Submitting their work to a separate entity for auditing and verification? Sounds like a good thing to me.
As long as the various business entities involved in the auditing stick to that mandate and don't start trying to directly influence the development or design of OpenSSL, it all sounds good to me. Otherwise, we're likely to end up with CDE, the Common Desktop Environment.
Quantum theory is also widely accepted, and has also produced accurate predictions. Quantum gravity and relativistic gravity are mutually exclusive theories. Are both of these theories facts?
The law of gravity states that any two objects in space will exert an attractive force on one another; that force is readily computed based on the total mass present and the distance between the two objects.
One theory of gravity states that objects with mass curve spacetime, and that this curvature in spacetime makes objects appear to accelerate toward each other; two objects falling towards one another are not accelerating but are obeying Newton's laws of motion. Curvature in spacetime makes the objects appear to accelerate towards one another.
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Who's going to raise the thing? Human babies (even in adult bodies) aren't exactly lean, mean surviving machines.